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There is a slight difference between Carrier and GPlay Nexus 5

First lets start by saying THERE are NO HARDWARE DIFFERENCE'S Just the matter of your carrier accepting the device
*Disclaimer : This information may change in the future and I'm not aware of any other CDMA carrier that does this in the UNITED States besides Sprint (If you do post and let us know). Most of the world is on GSM anyway right so this doesn't even matter to you
The Google Play Version allows you to go to Sprint and T-mobile
The T-Mobile Version or Carrier version will only work on other GSM Carriers while the Google play version allows you to go CDMA and GSM
Both of the Carrier and Google versions sold have the same internals and same everything else its just the matter of your carrier accepting it
If you're going to be using it for GSM only the carrier version is fine, however if you would like to use Sprint one day you would need the Google Play one or buy one from Sprint Themselves
Overall From Carrier and or Google Play Hardware/Software is the same its just the matter of your carrier accepting it :good:
Another Difference is that Carrier purchased Nexus 5 GOOGLE WILL NOT RMA only LG can with their Limited 1 year warranty
THE RMA Process is Only available from Google If the device was purchased from them
So for best warranty service try to purchase from Google Play
So Mark...? How do I know this is true and not one of your BUll***** threads again?
Simple Try going to ting and or any BYOD Sprint MVNO or Sprint themselves in order for them to activate it the ESN/IEMI must be in their system the google play ordered device will show however the Carrier purchased one Example T-Mobile wont show
It may sound stupid as all Nexus 5's should be unlocked and can be used anywhere. As it should be but it isn't
This is an Error on Sprint's End. This was similar to the iPhone 4s being GSM unlocked however carriers such as Sprint/Verizon Locked it

I'm not quite sure what this thread is about.
CDMA carriers have to have your ESN in their database for the phone to work on their network. They have all the Google play ESN's and all their own carrier ESN but they don't have other carriers' ESN so you have to ask them to add it. Is that what this is about?
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rootSU said:
I'm not quite sure what this thread is about.
CDMA carriers have to have your ESN in their database for the phone to work on their network. They have all the Google play ESN's and all their own carrier ESN but they don't have other carriers' ESN so you have to ask them to add it. Is that what this is about?
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Yep, you can go Sprint to T-Mobile but you cant go to T-Mobile to Sprint

markdapimp said:
Yep, you can go Sprint to T-Mobile but you cant go to T-Mobile to Sprint
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Do they refuse to add the ESN when you call them up?

rootSU said:
I'm not quite sure what this thread is about.
CDMA carriers have to have your ESN in their database for the phone to work on their network. They have all the Google play ESN's and all their own carrier ESN but they don't have other carriers' ESN so you have to ask them to add it. Is that what this is about?
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I am confused as well.

Sprint seems pretty horrific with dealing in ESN's anyways. 6 support calls and a friend of mine could still not activate my old e4gt. They knew it wasn't blacklisted for stolen or funds due. They knew the exact date the phone was last activated but it wasn't until I told him to tell them the old number that they are like oh that hasn't been released from the line (which no longer exists). You would think you would get a clear and concise message trying to activate a device that is attached to another account not cryptic errors people are asking if they have ever seen before. One support staff actually asked him "are you sure its a sprint phone".
We already know AT&T doesn't exactly deal as well with the N5 as we would like to.

RainMotorsports said:
We already know AT&T doesn't exactly deal as well with the N5 as we would like to.
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Really?
I bought the play store edition, popped in my sim card and that was it...
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Pirateghost said:
Really?
I bought the play store edition, popped in my sim card and that was it...
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Thats the best way to do it too. You already had service right? Possibly previously owned an LTE device? But its been encountered many a time they won't provision the account with LTE if the device ESN isn't in the system. But if you have an AT&T device available to activate on its no big deal. Already have service even better. Not an issue for say ST Byod or something.

mistahseller said:
I am confused as well.
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Here is what I understand
Google version=bought from google play
T-Mobile version=bought from tmobile
Hardware wise, they are exactly the same.
However, sprint only has the ESN of the Google version (and their sprint version)
When op tries to activate the tmobile version on sprint, sprint (or ting) was unable to verify the ESN and refused.
Gsm providers are fine because you just pop the Sim in and it'll work (baring other stuff like imei blocking or att not allowing your Sim card to access LTE but allow 3g)

paperWastage said:
Here is what I understand
Google version=bought from google play
T-Mobile version=bought from tmobile
Hardware wise, they are exactly the same.
However, sprint only has the ESN of the Google version (and their sprint version)
When op tries to activate the tmobile version on sprint, sprint (or ting) was unable to verify the ESN and refused.
Gsm providers are fine because you just pop the Sim in and it'll work (baring other stuff like imei blocking or att not allowing your Sim card to access LTE but allow 3g)
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But couldn't you just obtain that, give to sprint, they enter it, and then call it did?

mistahseller said:
But couldn't you just obtain that, give to sprint, they enter it, and then call it did?
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But what if Sprint's policy is only to allow a whitelisted phone on the network?
Otherwise, you could call them up with a Verizon ESN and get to use a Verizon phone on sprint?
//why I'll never touch CDMA even with a 20 foot pole

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But what if Sprint's policy is only to allow a whitelisted phone on the network?
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this is both vzw's and sprint's policy.

Zepius said:
this is both vzw's and sprint's policy.
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True, but sprint could be doing things differently with the nexus 5
I don't know, but from ops perspective, looks like this is happening.
Imeis (and probably ESN) have a specific structure. (Go Wikipedia imei. On mobile, can't link easily)
If google/sprint version have the same starting digits and are white listed, and T-Mobile has different digits, then yeah

mistahseller said:
But couldn't you just obtain that, give to sprint, they enter it, and then call it did?
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I have seen posts that suggest this can be done
Most recently:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672066
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RainMotorsports said:
Thats the best way to do it too. You already had service right? Possibly previously owned an LTE device? But its been encountered many a time they won't provision the account with LTE if the device ESN isn't in the system. But if you have an AT&T device available to activate on its no big deal. Already have service even better. Not an issue for say ST Byod or something.
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AT&T don't care what device you use. Call them and tell them you want to pay them money for LTE, give them the imei (they don't use esn) and they provision a sim card.
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All you have to do is call sprint and give them the esn and it will work on sprint.
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I ordered my N5 on 1st available day. Then went to local ATT store and set up my ATT Go account and SIM, without the phone, for free. When phone arrived, I just bought ATT Go pin from callingmart, pop in SIM and voilà, LTE.
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Pirateghost said:
AT&T don't care what device you use. Call them and tell them you want to pay them money for LTE, give them the imei (they don't use esn) and they provision a sim card.
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Company policies often have little to do with the current behaviour of high level software that abstracts the process from low level tech support. I don't think it was even an issue until very recently as most international unlocked devices were not compatible with their LTE nor do travelers take contracts. There are a couple of tricks experienced support know and even better if you get a higher level support tech answering your call rather than having to elevate. Sometimes its an easy day some days its hard.
There are words to use with support that can help facilitate a solution but money is not one of them. Its their job to help you no matter a current customer or new and no matter how much or little your spending. Talking about money only produces eye rolling and it falls under the same care level as calling your credit card company and telling the random poor soul your cutting up the card. They don't care, though a bean counter somewhere will tell anyone who asks they do or they should. In reality a rep who only gets motivated by threats or talking about money is a prime candidate for retraining or dismissal.
If they haven't already adjusted for this they need to. With the amount of cross carrier compatible unlocked lte devices on the market they will have more customers on them than ever before. Any extra calls to get LTE provisioned is wasted money for them.
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RainMotorsports said:
Company policies often have little to do with the current behaviour of high level software that abstracts the process from low level tech support. I don't think it was even an issue until very recently as most international unlocked devices were not compatible with their LTE nor do travelers take contracts. There are a couple of tricks experienced support know and even better if you get a higher level support tech answering your call rather than having to elevate. Sometimes its an easy day some days its hard.
There are words to use with support that can help facilitate a solution but money is not one of them. Its their job to help you no matter a current customer or new and no matter how much or little your spending. Talking about money only produces eye rolling and it falls under the same care level as calling your credit card company and telling the random poor soul your cutting up the card. They don't care, though a bean counter somewhere will tell anyone who asks they do or they should. In reality a rep who only gets motivated by threats or talking about money is a prime candidate for retraining or dismissal.
If they haven't already adjusted for this they need to. With the amount of cross carrier compatible unlocked lte devices on the market they will have more customers on them than ever before. Any extra calls to get LTE provisioned is wasted money for them.
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Telling them you wanted to pay them money is a figure of speech, like 'hello, I would like phone service' I didn't mean literally call them and say "I want to pay you money for LTE"
Dude, chill out a little. I have been dealing with cell phone companies as an enterprise account for many years.
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Pirateghost said:
Telling them you wanted to pay them money is a figure of speech, like 'hello, I would like phone service' I didn't mean literally call them and say "I want to pay you money for LTE"
Dude, chill out a little. I have been dealing with cell phone companies as an enterprise account for many years.
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Right but you might be surprised how many customers are serious and speak like that as if the service rep is part of this corporate entity. I guess you can tell a battered customer service veteran. I once had a guy tell me he was going to file a complaint on me for basically enforcing a policy that had been changed...
I'm a bit bummed actually. As much as I loved getting off sprint I was excited about the device support. So I'd hate to have any issues going back. However if I ever went AT&T it would probably be an mvno.
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Nexus 6 on Verizon - what works and what doesn't

Thus far, I think we've learned that dropping in a Nano SIM from an active line works perfectly.
What else is working? What is not working?
Is Google Voice working?

roadratx said:
Thus far, I think we've learned that dropping in a Nano SIM from an active line works perfectly.
What else is working? What is not working?
Is Google Voice working?
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I haven't come across any issues however I don't use Google Voice or tether (two most common questions). Otherwise, it works just like any other device would.

Does anyone with a Google play device have it show up as non Verizon device on your account.
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selayan said:
Does anyone with a Google play device have it show up as non Verizon device on your account.
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That is exactly what is shown. NON-VZW DEVICE.

Ok so neither moto devices or Google are in the Verizon system.
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roadratx said:
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What else is working? What is not working?
Is Google Voice working?
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I got mine from Moto and everything works as fine as any other phone I've ever purchased directly from Verizon. It was as simple as inserting the nano SIM from my old Moto X and I was good-to-go.
I use Google Voice for VM and have had no issues.
I don't pay for the hotspot feature, so that doesn't work until I have root.
Yes, My Verizon shows NON-VZW DEVICE, but it works flawlessly. FWIW Google Play also initially showed "No carrier Nexus 6", but now it says "Verizon Wireless Nexus 6".

I think everything works as far as I know. Tempted to buy from tmobile but don't want Verizon to whitelist or black list or whatever.. I already have a nano sim from the m8 and adapter for,my g3.
But tmobile. Has to activate it first.. I wonder if that would cause any issues?

jay_em113 said:
I got mine from Moto and everything works as fine as any other phone I've ever purchased directly from Verizon. It was as simple as inserting the nano SIM from my old Moto X and I was good-to-go.
I use Google Voice for VM and have had no issues.
I don't pay for the hotspot feature, so that doesn't work until I have root.
Yes, My Verizon shows NON-VZW DEVICE, but it works flawlessly. FWIW Google Play also initially showed "No carrier Nexus 6", but now it says "Verizon Wireless Nexus 6".
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Hmm but the Motorola one will not show up as Verizon wireless nexus 6. I wonder if later they can disable it. Edit: nevermind that's the actual phone saying that.
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selayan said:
Hmm but the Motorola one will not show up as Verizon wireless nexus 6. I wonder if later they can disable it. Edit: nevermind that's the actual phone saying that.
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I think the whole issue with Verizon is really overblown and there shouldn't be any concerns. There are only two variants of the phone, one for US and one for international. Verizon and Moto/Google have obviously come to some agreement to allow the US version to use their network without any extra steps. I know it's hard for everyone to believe that there is a real Nexus on Verizon, but I'm here to tell you that it's here, and it works effortlessly and flawlessly. Verizon deserves some credit for this after the Galaxy Nexus debacle, but again....that was their own variant of the phone. Phones have changed to be less carrier-centric, and the carriers have had to adapt if they want to carry the popular phones.

jay_em113 said:
I think the whole issue with Verizon is really overblown and there shouldn't be any concerns. There are only two variants of the phone, one for US and one for international. Verizon and Moto/Google have obviously come to some agreement to allow the US version to use their network without any extra steps. I know it's hard for everyone to believe that there is a real Nexus on Verizon, but I'm here to tell you that it's here, and it works effortlessly and flawlessly. Verizon deserves some credit for this after the Galaxy Nexus debacle, but again....that was their own variant of the phone. Phones have changed to be less carrier-centric, and the carriers have had to adapt if they want to carry the popular phones.
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I agree. The only caveat is if you don't have a nano SIM you have to either cut yours or order one from Verizon on the phone not in store. Then activate using your old phone.
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jay_em113 said:
I think the whole issue with Verizon is really overblown and there shouldn't be any concerns. There are only two variants of the phone, one for US and one for international. Verizon and Moto/Google have obviously come to some agreement to allow the US version to use their network without any extra steps. I know it's hard for everyone to believe that there is a real Nexus on Verizon, but I'm here to tell you that it's here, and it works effortlessly and flawlessly. Verizon deserves some credit for this after the Galaxy Nexus debacle, but again....that was their own variant of the phone. Phones have changed to be less carrier-centric, and the carriers have had to adapt if they want to carry the popular phones.
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I agree, but we don't have definitive answers on whether VZW white listed all nexus 6 or if only GP and Moto ones

roadratx said:
I agree, but we don't have definitive answers on whether VZW white listed all nexus 6 or if only GP and Moto ones
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Yea. I was worried about this. I want to pull the trigger buying from tmobile but yea because Verizon might pull some whitelisting crap

I haven't found anything that isn't working yet.

Google Voice for calls and VM are working, and Portable Hotspot is fine too. That is on my micro-cut-to-nano SIM card from my S4.

SimonTuffGuy said:
Google Voice for calls and VM are working, and Portable Hotspot is fine too. That is on my micro-cut-to-nano SIM card from my S4.
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Were you paying for the hotspot feature/on a mobile share plan? I'm on an unlimited data plan and hotspot doesn't work.

bloodiedwraith said:
Were you paying for the hotspot feature/on a mobile share plan? I'm on an unlimited data plan and hotspot doesn't work.
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Pretty sure you need to root for it to work.

HankStorm said:
Pretty sure you need to root for it to work.
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Oh I know that - I was hoping that it wouldn't be disabled out of the box but I was hoping lol

What about the alleged carrier bloat that was supposed to be downloaded upon activation? Havent heard a word on this so I assume it aint true

Nothing came down on mine, but this could also be due to the fact that Verizon doesn't even have the N6 in their system so there may not be anything on there side setup to even push. This could possibly change down the line when Verizon actually starts carrying it.

bloodiedwraith said:
Were you paying for the hotspot feature/on a mobile share plan? I'm on an unlimited data plan and hotspot doesn't work.
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My phone is part of my works plan, in which hotspot is a feature. When I clicked on the hotspot option the phone did a "checking for subscription" type warning and then it enabled.
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What about the alleged carrier bloat that was supposed to be downloaded upon activation? Havent heard a word on this so I assume it aint true
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I had an OTA that installed, but no carrier bloat after activation.

[Q] Will I be able to use the T-Mobile S6 on Verizon?

Someone posted asking if it would work on AT&T so I looked around to see if it would work on Verizon and saw that Verizon has one LTE band that's different (VZW uses band 13, TMO uses 12). Would that weaken my signal strength enough that I shouldn't do it? I primarily am asking because I'm assuming the TMO S6 would have an unlocked bootloader and all I really want is to be able to root.

allthemalarkey19 said:
Someone posted asking if it would work on AT&T so I looked around to see if it would work on Verizon and saw that Verizon has one LTE band that's different (VZW uses band 13, TMO uses 12). Would that weaken my signal strength enough that I shouldn't do it? I primarily am asking because I'm assuming the TMO S6 would have an unlocked bootloader and all I really want is to be able to root.
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Verizon will NEVER activate a phone that they did not sell. Verizon, assholes that they are, won't even activate a Nexus 6 you purchased from the Play Store, even though it's 100% compatible. So the answer is, and always will be, NO.

entropism said:
Verizon will NEVER activate a phone that they did not sell. Verizon, assholes that they are, won't even activate a Nexus 6 you purchased from the Play Store, even though it's 100% compatible. So the answer is, and always will be, NO.
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Well...that's not true from what I've heard. I read the issue is that most Verizon reps just don't know how, not that they won't.

allthemalarkey19 said:
Well...that's not true from what I've heard. I read the issue is that most Verizon reps just don't know how, not that they won't.
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Look, I can say this with the utmost confidence, and all the willingness to put money behind my statement. Verizon will NOT activate a non-verizon phone.

entropism said:
Look, I can say this with the utmost confidence, and all the willingness to put money behind my statement. Verizon will NOT activate a non-verizon phone.
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I worked for Verizon for 3 years. It depends on a lot on the rep you get and your attitude. For a while there were a lot of issues with the system not allowing certain IEMI numbers to activate on the network. Why? Cause Verizon didn't sell these devices to anyone. But this has since changed mainly due to Page Plus and the other prepay options. Your best choice is to have a device with a sim card already and simply test it yourself in your other device. You've been able to use the Nexus 6 this way for a while on Verizon. The system Verizon uses is a bit extreme for activation because they'd rather suck your pocket book dry before allowing an unbranded device onboard.

entropism said:
Look, I can say this with the utmost confidence, and all the willingness to put money behind my statement. Verizon will NOT activate a non-verizon phone.
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It doesn't matter if Verizon will activate a phone or not. If you have an activated SIM and then phone has Verizon's bands, it'll work. It just shows non-VZN device on MyVerizon. I've used a T-Mobile iPhone and Google Play Nexus 6 on Verizon.
Sadly, the T-Mobile S6 doesn't support Band 13 (Verizon's primary LTE band).

allthemalarkey19 said:
Someone posted asking if it would work on AT&T so I looked around to see if it would work on Verizon and saw that Verizon has one LTE band that's different (VZW uses band 13, TMO uses 12). Would that weaken my signal strength enough that I shouldn't do it? I primarily am asking because I'm assuming the TMO S6 would have an unlocked bootloader and all I really want is to be able to root.
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Samsung appears to be using different modems for different variants. The GSM models run one modem and the CDMA models run a Qualcomm.
Even if it was able to be activated on VZW I doubt it would run very well

As far as I'm aware, Verizon is still using CDMA for voice and SMS.
Does the T-Mobile S6 support CDMA bands that Verizon uses? 4G (data only, at the moment) uses GSM..

LOL
entropism said:
Look, I can say this with the utmost confidence, and all the willingness to put money behind my statement. Verizon will NOT activate a non-verizon phone.
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Yes...it will activate on Verizon (Google Play Nexus 6)...however not in a store...you need to have an already active Verizon sim card. I've done it myself.

sd_N said:
Yes...it will activate on Verizon (Google Play Nexus 6)...however not in a store...you need to have an already active Verizon sim card. I've done it myself.
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Right, but that's the Nexus, which has the radios available. We're talking about the S6, which won't have the CDMA radios required to actually WORK on verizon outside of LTE coverage.
Notice I only brought up the Nexus because of Verizon not activating it themselves AND it being 100% compatible, not that it couldn't. The S6 isn't 100% compatible by any means, and is a completely different animal.

entropism said:
Right, but that's the Nexus, which has the radios available. We're talking about the S6, which won't have the CDMA radios required to actually WORK on verizon outside of LTE coverage.
Notice I only brought up the Nexus because of Verizon not activating it themselves AND it being 100% compatible, not that it couldn't. The S6 isn't 100% compatible by any means, and is a completely different animal.
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True...some folks would take it as a literal NO though and think it not possible at all. I wish Samsung would make all their newer phones with unlocked cdma and gsm radios...and of course unlocked bootloaders. I guess pick your poison. Lol

sd_N said:
True...some folks would take it as a literal NO though and think it not possible at all. I wish Samsung would make all their newer phones with unlocked cdma and gsm radios...and of course unlocked bootloaders. I guess pick your poison. Lol
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Well, it was a literal no. Verizon will not activate it for you. Literal no. It will not work properly. Literal no. It's just a bad idea in general, but so is giving Verizon your money. Just saying...
You could get it working yourself, but only barely, and with multiple issues. So why would you?

Verizon SIM Issues

I've had my N6 for a week and a half now; when I ordered it, I requested a Nano SIM from Verizon. It took longer than I expected for the new SIM to arrive, so I decided to just cut down my existing Micro SIM. Did that, installed into the N6, up and running no problem.
The Nano SIM finally showed up, and I swapped it in thinking there'd be no issue. Unfortunately when I start it up, I get a notification to "Sign into network", and when I open that, I receive a screen that says "Cannot Activate Your Device". I talked to VZW on their chat and then on the phone; the tech on the phone was asking for the IMEI which I provided, he said their system did not recognize the number and he'd have to submit a request to have it added to the database, which would take 24-48 hours, and that I could swap in my old SIM in the meantime. No problem, until I switched my old SIM back in and it doesn't work anymore either....
Any suggestions?

Sounds like you were better off keeping them in the dark. I read an article somewhere can't remember where saying that Verizon wouldn't activate any n6 that weren't purchased directly from Verizon. I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.
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colts187 said:
Sounds like you were better off keeping them in the dark. I read an article somewhere can't remember where saying that Verizon wouldn't activate any n6 that weren't purchased directly from Verizon. I wouldn't be surprised if that were true.
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It does seem that way. Mine came from GPS. Told them that when I requested the new SIM and they didn't give me any problems...it was "sure, confirm your address and we'll send it".
The tech I was dealing with genuinely seemed to want to figure out a way to get it to work.
My thought is to try to get my SIM back in a phone that is unquestionably on Verizon's system, but I'll have to find a nano to micro adapter to do that with my wife's phone, for instance.

I was able to find a nano-micro adapter, and reactivate my old SIM in an old Galaxy S3 we had laying around, and swap it into my N6.
LTE data is working, but voice isn't for some reason (when I place a call, it'll ring once and then "Welcome to Verizon Wireless, your call can not be completed as dialed. Please check the number..."
ETA: Voice issues were some kind of glitch with Advanced Calling/VoLTE. I disabled it from my line, reactivated it and went through that whole process again and now it's working.

This post summarizes the VZW issues with the non-VZW N6: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59970721&postcount=121
Read the whole thread if you want details, but it seems clear to me the VZW is breaking FCC regs by only allowing N6's purchased from them on their network.
It does seem you have other issues going on here though. My N6 worked great, it just cost me my $25 "bring your own device" discount when I plugged in my existing SIM.
Please let us know if you succeed in getting your N6 recognized on VZW's network. My request to add mine to their network was denied in about 5 minutes.

Same issue on b2b plan
I'm having the same issue on a B2B plan. I am currently trying to find someone w/ a Verizon android. Seems like there are grounds for a complaint through FCC regulations though, no?

prod1212 said:
I'm having the same issue on a B2B plan. I am currently trying to find someone w/ a Verizon android. Seems like there are grounds for a complaint through FCC regulations though, no?
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This is no longer an issue. Verizon will activate all Nexus 6's now from what I've read.
See the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/fcc-verizon-t3069915

patmw123 said:
This is no longer an issue. Verizon will activate all Nexus 6's now from what I've read.
See the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/fcc-verizon-t3069915
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My mistake! I'm using a N5.

prod1212 said:
My mistake! I'm using a N5.
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The Nexus 5 doesn't have the hardware/radios to run on Verizon and never has just fyi.

patmw123 said:
The Nexus 5 doesn't have the hardware/radios to run on Verizon and never has just fyi.
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I was under the impression that the N5 radio could connect to Band 13 (700MHz)

prod1212 said:
I was under the impression that the N5 radio could connect to Band 13 (700MHz)
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Yeah it would need a lot more than just support for LTE band 13 to work on Verizon. The CDMA bands/radios are still 100% necessary - at least for now. In addition to all of the other LTE bands Verizon supports.

patmw123 said:
Yeah it would need a lot more than just support for LTE band 13 to work on Verizon. The CDMA bands/radios are still 100% necessary - at least for now. In addition to all of the other LTE bands Verizon supports.
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Yea, I guess I am missing something here. I found that you can't enable Band 13 without rooting and disabling other bands. Shouldn't an unlocked nexus 5 just need access to Band 13 and be registered on Verizon's network in order to use LTE Band 13?
I appreciate all of the answers. I'm a bit new to this whole process, and never understood US network space before today. so thanks

prod1212 said:
Yea, I guess I am missing something here. I found that you can't enable Band 13 without rooting and disabling other bands. Shouldn't an unlocked nexus 5 just need access to Band 13 and be registered on Verizon's network in order to use LTE Band 13?
I appreciate all of the answers. I'm a bit new to this whole process, and never understood US network space before today. so thanks
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You might find more support for your quest on the Nexus 5 Q&A forum, here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help

[Q] VZ Nexus, going to Europe

Question....I bought my Nexus 6 from Verizon, rooted it, did the whole OEM Unlock....
I'm flying to Europe (Germany, Austria, Italy, and Greece) in 40 days to visit family, and Verizon's International Rates are ridiculous. My brother told me about http://www.knowroaming.com/, but on the site it states that you must have an Unlocked GSM phone. Would this still work on the Nexus 6? The other option I have is using a T-Mo SIM card in Europe since my brother works for them and he said he could simply give me one.
I guess my question...in order of what's best:
1: The KnowRoaming SIM option
2: T-Mo SIM
I'll have access to WiFi all over Germany and Austria, but will depend more on the Mobile Web in Italy and Greece. I'll use Google Hangouts to chat with my family in the U.S. while I'm abroad, but still need access to make calls in an emergency.

All Nexus 6 are unlocked GSM.

Ok, that's what I thought....I just know that Verizon is KNOWN for mucking stuff up and locking things down, so I wasn't sure.

tdetroit said:
Ok, that's what I thought....I just know that Verizon is KNOWN for mucking stuff up and locking things down, so I wasn't sure.
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They are indeed, however the Nexus 6 from them is untouched in regards to bootloaders and hardware - so it's the same as every other

danarama said:
All Nexus 6 are unlocked GSM.
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Except the AT&T variant. The AT&T carrier lock is "unlockable" after the device has been paid off.

cam30era said:
Except the AT&T variant. The AT&T carrier lock is "unlockable" after the device has been paid off.
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Thanks for confirming that. I even knew that once

Well, leaving in less than 2 weeks. My brother has a T-Mo SIM card for me with 10GB of data. I don't need Voice since I'll call home to the U.S. using WiFi from his house in the evenings and in an emergency I can use his phone to call home if we're not near WiFi. Hopefully the T-Mo SIM is recognized without any hiccups.

tdetroit said:
Well, leaving in less than 2 weeks. My brother has a T-Mo SIM card for me with 10GB of data. I don't need Voice since I'll call home to the U.S. using WiFi from his house in the evenings and in an emergency I can use his phone to call home if we're not near WiFi. Hopefully the T-Mo SIM is recognized without any hiccups.
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You may only have to change the APN settings but it will work as long as it is activated.

graydiggy said:
You may only have to change the APN settings but it will work as long as it is activated.
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Yes, that's what I thought. My brother actually works for T-Mo and has the proper APN Info for me so we can enter it as soon as I touch down in Munich. I've also decided to leave my DSLR at home and use the Nexus as my only Camera while I'm out there.