Sound Quality General [Snapdragon] - Galaxy Note 4 General

Like many others, I'm waiting eagerly for my phone to arrive, and I've seen a lot of threads regarding sound quality. What I didn't find though, was one thread for all audio discussion. I consider myself an entry-level audiophile, so I figured I'd make one!
Since the two Note 4 versions (Exynos/Snapdragon) have different sound chips, I thought it might be good to separate them a bit.
I thought we would hopefully get two lesser cluttered threads, where people could discuss their version.
This thread would then be for the Snapdragon version (without the Wolfson DAC).
Here, people could post first-impressions, measurements, and discuss. Mainly for the headphone output, but also for speakers.

Still waiting for mine as well. There are two solutions that make the dac discussion largely irrelevant imo. Use an external dac or install vyper . vyper never fails to amaze me at overcoming hard ware limitations. I predict that I will have my new phone rooted and vyper installed within a couple of hours of opening the box.

eddhard said:
Still waiting for mine as well. There are two solutions that make the dac discussion largely irrelevant imo. Use an external dac or install vyper . vyper never fails to amaze me at overcoming hard ware limitations. I predict that I will have my new phone rooted and vyper installed within a couple of hours of opening the box.
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Yep, that's true! Will probably install Viper in no time, but I'm looking to get an external DAC soon too. The FiiO E18 looks good for my needs, as it functions as a charger for the phone as well as a DAC.
Regardless, it's good to have one place where people can ask for questions about audio in my opinion. I've seen a lot of threads the last couple of days

Just listened to some music from Spotify that I downloaded to get a feel for the quality. I'm happy with it but Samsung's earbuds are for the birds. Switched over to some better ones I have and while not audiophile quality, I'm OK for now with what I heard. It was only for about a half hour so we'll see going forward.

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Just listened to some music from Spotify that I downloaded to get a feel for the quality. I'm happy with it but Samsung's earbuds are for the birds. Switched over to some better ones I have and while not audiophile quality, I'm OK for now with what I heard. It was only for about a half hour so we'll see going forward.
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That sounds good, what sq and headphones were you using?

Mafle93 said:
That sounds good, what sq and headphones were you using?
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I'm very impressed and I use Power Amp on my HTC M8, LG G3 and Note 4 and prefer the Note 4 especially with HD music.

Got my phone today, I'm fairly impressed as well. It doesn't play too loud through headphones though. 20 ohm IEMs, and I still need to have 4/5 of full volume for it to be loud enough. Need to do more listening before I'll consider buying an amp.

Very happy with mine, I'm coming from the GS4 Exynos and my Note 4 S805 is a hell of a lot louder and clearer, need to get a new pair of Sennheisers and a 64GB MicroSDXC to fill up with HQ music, movies and series.

Factory earbuds are a joke with the UK version Terrible sound quality...
Plugged in a decent set of in ears and sound is OK, not up to the same quality as the (exynos) note 2 I had previously though.

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audio quality and camera quite a bit worse than razr m?

can it be so? according to
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p6.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p7.php
thought the audio chip and camera nternals would be the same
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can it be so? according to
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p6.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p7.php
thought the audio chip and camera nternals would be the same
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Different SoC's have different DAC's (Digital-to-Analog-Converters [Audio Chips]). Exynos, for example, has the awesome Wolfson DAC, which you can use the Voodoo Audio mod with. The Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 has a different, but still very good one. So yeah, it makes sense that this Intel one [probably] has a different DAC considering you're talking about an entire system on a chip. The camera, however is independent and has nothing to do with the SoC. So if Motorola decided to use a lesser quality camera on the i than the M, that was an independent decision.
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can it be so? according to
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p6.php
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Personal experience is that the i has a better camera than the M, but that both are mediocre. Kind of hilarious that the i had a dedicated camera button for a shoddy camera.
-Sent from my Razr i on AT&T.-
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Different SoC's have different DAC's (Digital-to-Analog-Converters [Audio Chips]). Exynos, for example, has the awesome Wolfson DAC, which you can use the Voodoo Audio mod with. The Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 has a different, but still very good one. So yeah, it makes sense that this Intel one [probably] has a different DAC considering you're talking about an entire system on a chip. The camera, however is independent and has nothing to do with the SoC. So if Motorola decided to use a lesser quality camera on the i than the M, that was an independent decision.
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You're talking about Exynos 4412.
Don't confuse it with 4210 which has the worst audio chips ever made in mankind. (Yamaha)
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You're talking about Exynos 4412.
Don't confuse it with 4210 which has the worst audio chips ever made in mankind. (Yamaha)
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I'm talking about the current-gen model. I've had the Epic 4G Touch when I was on Sprint (it had the Exynos 4210) and yes it was really bad (flat-sounding). I was trying to illustrate a point though.
maybe not quite as techincal as the gsmarena review but certainly not a 'poor' camera here
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/smartphones/1294792/motorola-razr-i
Can anyone that owns the Razr i please comment on the audio quality? I'm planning on buying this phone, but I listen to music on my phone for hours every day and am buying a new phone, because the audio connector on my Desire is bust. I'm only interested in the sound quality through headphones.
i've just compared it to the gnex. not great i'm afraid. quite a bit of 'hiss'. a few seconds after play comes to a stop, you'll hear a nasty 'clicking off' sound. not quite sure what it is but it is not there on the gnex. i really wanted to love this phone but audio quality is a let down. for that reason alone, i'll be sticking with my gnex and returning the i tomorrow
You've got to be kidding me, how hard can it be to get this right.
I disagree. I am not an audiophile but I find the sound pretty much as good as any other device I have had. There is hiss when not listening to anything but it seems to go away when I am listening to something.
Anyway, I really think its ok.
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There is hiss when not listening to anything but it seems to go away when I am listening to something
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that is true, you'll only notice it on quiet areas of songs. but those same areas have no hiss at all on the gnex. i'm not trying to big up the gnex here but quality of audio output via headphones is pretty important to me and the hiss i find is unacceptable
Honestly I haven't noticed a hiss when listening to things. I mainly listen to podcasts which have lots of quiet sections and little music. I will turn my ears to the potential hiss next time my headphones are plugged in.
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Just got my new XT890. Excellent phone. Have played some MP3s and haven't noticed any problem till now. This phone has much better sound quality than my previous Huawei. Also the results of sound measurement in gsmarena review are similar to those of HTC One X review:
I think the methods of sound quality measurements aren't very accurate and strongly depends on the environment, measuring equipment and event on the specific phone unit (I think such type of benchmarks should be repeated on several units to control convergence of results).
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Just got my new XT890. Excellent phone. Have played some MP3s and haven't noticed any problem till now. This phone has much better sound quality than my previous Huawei. Also the results of sound measurement in gsmarena review are similar to those of HTC One X review:
I think the methods of sound quality measurements aren't very accurate and strongly depends on the environment, measuring equipment and event on the specific phone unit (I think such type of benchmarks should be repeated on several units to control convergence of results).
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I'm not scientific with my sound reviews but from my personal experience my XT912 RAZR sounded "meh" quality.
My HTC One S sounded great, probably because of the whole Beats thing.
My RAZR i is on par with my HTC One S for sound quality.
This is all done from me driving around in my '97 Olds with a Cassette to MP3 adapter so take it with a grain of salt... but I am happy with the quality
Nice name by the way
Could it be, that only some handsets are affected? Because a few people complain about the quality, and a few say it's completely fine. And only one reviewer mentioned the problem. I had the obnoxious clicking sound when a track stopped on the Desire aswell, and I would really love, if the Razr i wouldn't have that problem. Could a beter set of headphones help? Me buying this phone is riding on this, because I really love it so far, a compact all-rounder, that has a lovely design, and is something special.
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i've just compared it to the gnex. not great i'm afraid. quite a bit of 'hiss'. a few seconds after play comes to a stop, you'll hear a nasty 'clicking off' sound. not quite sure what it is but it is not there on the gnex. i really wanted to love this phone but audio quality is a let down. for that reason alone, i'll be sticking with my gnex and returning the i tomorrow
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update: the tables have turned! i had a 2nd razr i delivered over the weekend. this unit has no noticeable 'hiss' as described above. not sure if the 1st unit was defective or something moto have amended in newer batches? either way i'm more than happy with the audio quality now on the replacement razr i and can fully recommend it to others. i'll be keeping the razr and returning the gnex yes the gnex is still marginally ahead audio quality wise. but the trade off with having a device that can store my entire music collection on removeable sd vs slightly lesser audio performance is well worth it imo.
both units were from reputable online retailers.
Oh dreaded Moto! Defy speaker problem repeats itself? Can you check serial numbers (and other info) on the stickers on both boxes? Perhaps they've different manufacturing dates.
it is not the loudspeaker. i'm talking about listening with headphones. i'll look at the boxes later at post back
Yeah, Defy problem wasn't exactly this one, but it was massive and annoying and moto had to admit the issue later.
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it is not the loudspeaker. i'm talking about listening with headphones. i'll look at the boxes later at post back
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& what serial number it has?

Samsung HS330

So after watching a couple of GS4 unboxing videos, I've become pretty interested in the included earphones which, as far as I've read, will be available separately for around $30.
Now I'm far from an audiophile but I would still like some decent earphones to use. I was planning to buy myself a pair of these but since the HS330s have volume control on the in-line remote, I thought they might be better.
Since real-world testing is somewhat out of the question at this point, based on specs alone, which of the two do you guys think should have better sound quality?
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So after watching a couple of GS4 unboxing videos, I've become pretty interested in the included earphones which, as far as I've read, will be available separately for around $30.
Now I'm far from an audiophile but I would still like some decent earphones to use. I was planning to buy myself a pair of these but since the HS330s have volume control on the in-line remote, I thought they might be better.
Since real-world testing is somewhat out of the question at this point, based on specs alone, which of the two do you guys think should have better sound quality?
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I was wondering the same thing after reading this review. What got me was this: They offer better bass than just about any other pair of headphones you can find in a smartphone's retail package, although they probably won't fully replace any high-end aftermarket earphones, if you happen to have those. I was looking for something new so that I could retire my current headphones. So I collected an S4 for my mom today and tested out the earphones.
I was not impressed at all. I don't know what bass they are talking about. The max volume from them is also quite low.
To be fair, all the earphones that come with the phones I get normally stay in the box untouched. So I can't say how they fared against other headsets which come in the retail packaging.
I have a 10yr old pair of Sony MDR-EX70LP Fontopia Headphones which even went through a wash cycle and they totally blew the HS330s out of the water in every sound aspect. (I am not an audiophile, so I can't go into lots of detail, but they are much louder, have much deeper and louder bass and are clear and crisp. All the other sounds are there too and sound just as good. )
I don't know if this a an apples to apples comparison, but take it as my 2c.
cheese_za said:
I was wondering the same thing after reading this review. What got me was this: They offer better bass than just about any other pair of headphones you can find in a smartphone's retail package, although they probably won't fully replace any high-end aftermarket earphones, if you happen to have those. I was looking for something new so that I could retire my current headphones. So I collected an S4 for my mom today and tested out the earphones.
I was not impressed at all. I don't know what bass they are talking about. The max volume from them is also quite low.
To be fair, all the earphones that come with the phones I get normally stay in the box untouched. So I can't say how they fared against other headsets which come in the retail packaging.
I have a 10yr old pair of Sony MDR-EX70LP Fontopia Headphones which even went through a wash cycle and they totally blew the HS330s out of the water in every sound aspect. (I am not an audiophile, so I can't go into lots of detail, but they are much louder, have much deeper and louder bass and are clear and crisp. All the other sounds are there too and sound just as good. )
I don't know if this a an apples to apples comparison, but take it as my 2c.
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This is really helpful. Thanks a lot. Even though I know I can get better, I'm actually content with the earphones that came with my Note 2. So if the S4 ones are at least as good as that, I'll probably buy them still. But if they're actually a downgrade then screw that, haha.
Anyone have a review about Samsung HS330 Please... and where is we can buy this earphone online?
jauhari said:
Anyone have a review about Samsung HS330 Please... and where is we can buy this earphone online?
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Same here. Looked on ebay and amazon. Couldn't find it. Thanks.
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I have a pair of Zagg Headphones that came free with my screen protector that work better then anything else I have had. But speaking on headphones, my wife's iphone5 headphones are pretty nice I must say.
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Rams99 said:
Same here. Looked on ebay and amazon. Couldn't find it. Thanks.
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They're finally on Ebay. This is the cheapest of two that I found, at around 27 dollars or so: http://www.ebay.com/itm/400504212596
Btw, the Sony MH1C would be a better buy, since it's one of the best earphones you can buy that has functioning buttons for Android devices.

Audio Quality on Nexus 6?

All I can say is the audio quality through the headphone jack, and speaker on the Note 4 is garbage! That does not make it a bad phone, because with all its other features, the Note 4 is awesome but for an avid audiophile like me, my phone needs a great DAC/ headphone jack. The iphone 6+ Does have fantastic audio quality, but I use android phones as my workhorse, and Ipad as my consumption device, so iPhone is out for me. I am REALLY hoping that since the Nexus 6 has the 2 front facing stereo speakers, that it is being pushed by a strong high quality DAC. I currently have the M8 , and the audio is quite nice, but I have always wanted a nexus device after owning the HTC Nexus 1 , and the Nexus 6 checks all the boxes for me personally. It just has to have great audio and battery life and I'm sold! Hopefully we can get some reviews of the big sexy nexus before pre ordering starts?
I will admit, I am no audiophile. Can you go into detail on what exactly you notice in a bad audio output?
What headphones are you using?
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What headphones are you using?
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V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
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I will admit, I am no audiophile. Can you go into detail on what exactly you notice in a bad audio output?
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Hiss at higher volumes. Crosstalk/ Interference. Lack of soundstage or depth in the audio. Or lack of volume and "punch" in bass. I'm no "hardcore audiophile" that will ONLY listen to FLAC/ High Res music, as I listen quite often to Play Music on the go and at work @ 320kbps track that are streamed to me. But when reviewing new music or at the house wanting to check out new tracks and just want to be taken in by the music, then I load up some 24-bit/192kHz files, Ah the beauty of Android!
I know I can get a dedicated music player that serves this need, and I have one (Still have my old Zune 120 but with the way digital music distribution being so awesomely convenient through Gplay Store/ Itunes, I just like having a device that can "do it all" if I can find one. The Nexus being pure Android, "supposedly" all day battery life" Amazing screen, with hopefully excellent audio performance and supports High res audio files, sounds like that perfect device for me... Crossing fingers.
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V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
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I'm not sure if root is available for the note4 yet, but if it is, install V4A. It helps to a degree. The nexus 5 is not a great when it comes to audio, however, with V4A installed, it is bearable. I use UE900 CIEM.
Edit: I am also hoping the N6 will have a powerful audio chip.
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V-Modda M100's, B&W P7"s
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How do you like the P7's? I bought the P5's years ago but admittedly they don't get much use. I have tried the P7's and while I'm not sure if their sound sig is for me, they were insanely comfortable.
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Hiss at higher volumes. Crosstalk/ Interference. Lack of soundstage or depth in the audio. Or lack of volume and "punch" in bass. I'm no "hardcore audiophile" that will ONLY listen to FLAC/ High Res music, as I listen quite often to Play Music on the go and at work @ 320kbps track that are streamed to me. But when reviewing new music or at the house wanting to check out new tracks and just want to be taken in by the music, then I load up some 24-bit/192kHz files, Ah the beauty of Android!
I know I can get a dedicated music player that serves this need, and I have one (Still have my old Zune 120 but with the way digital music distribution being so awesomely convenient through Gplay Store/ Itunes, I just like having a device that can "do it all" if I can find one. The Nexus being pure Android, "supposedly" all day battery life" Amazing screen, with hopefully excellent audio performance and supports High res audio files, sounds like that perfect device for me... Crossing fingers.
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If it helps, the new Moto G, a £150/$180 phone, comes with an excellent DAC. Its even more impressive given the price of the device.
I can only assume they'll implement the same solution as in the Moto X. Unfortunately I can't comment on that, but I'd assume it's at least equal or better than the Moto X.
Obviously it can't compare to any dedicated player though. I still regularly notice the huge difference between my Note 2/3 Z3 experience and my old ipod touch 3rd gen. iPod destroys everything still.
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I'm not sure if root is available for the note4 yet, but if it is, install V4A. It helps to a degree. The nexus 5 is not a great when it comes to audio, however, with V4A installed, it is bearable. I use UE900 CIEM.
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Yeah those UE900's are some mighty fine phones my friend! But yeah I just want superb audio out of the box without tweaking. I know I can get it if I go back to apple for a phone, but I use iPad, so to me having an iPhone with its boring software when I already have an iPad that I use for consumption/work just seems like unnecessary overkill. As I use Android as my workhorse/EDC device. I have the HTC One M8 right now, and its close to what I want, but I don't particularly care for the software, except Blinkfeed, and I loath the camera. Headphone audio is damn good only because it is the loudest phone on the market right now due to the DAC having to push the BoomSound speakers and also pushing that same power to the headphone jack. But louder is not always better. The iphone 6 Plus's audio quality is quite a bit better, but not as loud, or "punchy". I hope its not too much to expect excellent audio quality with the way Googs is going away from the decently priced cutting corners Nexus devices to the absolute best Android has to offer Android device, which is what the N6 is sounding like they are marketing it has.
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If it helps, the new Moto G, a £150/$180 phone, comes with an excellent DAC. Its even more impressive given the price of the device.
I can only assume they'll implement the same solution as in the Moto X. Unfortunately I can't comment on that, but I'd assume it's at least equal or better than the Moto X.
Obviously it can't compare to any dedicated player though. I still regularly notice the huge difference between my Note 2/3 Z3 experience and my old ipod touch 3rd gen. iPod destroys everything still.
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I know right.. I think Apple's audio superiority comes from the fact that they use a totally separate processing unit, independent of the processor for Audio processing. Where as Android phones generally use qualcomm's SOC and they dont have there own dedicated DAC. I may be mistaken on some of that lingo, but I think its close enough.
"The Nexus 6 comes with a pair of stereo speakers on the front, just like HTC’s phones. And just like the phones from Taiwan, Google’s phablet gives brilliant sound quality. Movies really draw you in with the combination of that huge screen and those crisp speakers And we could fill the whole house with music just with the Nexus 6
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I am a M-100 user as well, hell year brother!
As for audio quality, personally I never use something as spread out as a Cellphone/Smartphone for quality music listening. Most of the time they are not equipped with the proper magic for good audio compared to PMP's and other quality audio sources. That is why I still carry around a PMP for most of my music listening (Better HW for sound, Storage all for Music, Separate battery for Music).
I know it's almost archaic to still have a PMP and a SmartPhone since the latter can technically do both, but if you want the best audio quality it's best to get a PMP for your audiophile needs. I suggest taking a look for this if you are curious for a PMP recommendation: http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000060437344&MenuID=105026016
As for the N6, its up in the air. But I usually would not bet my wallet that it would make a quality music player. It might be good for some music here and there but as a whole with pro cans it just might not be enough to get the most out of them.
To me the original Moto X audio quality through headphones was great. I ordered a Nexus 5 trying to decide which one to keep and ended up sending the Nexus back. One of the reasons was the audio wasn't as good as the X. I HOPE the N6 will be just as good. Motorola hasn't let me down yet.
I wonder if the N6 will be able to play FLAC lossless files. I really would like to hear my music in it's purist form. I have tried looking on Moto's and Google's spec websites and there is nothing about the audio part of the device....
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I wonder if the N6 will be able to play FLAC lossless files. I really would like to hear my music in it's purist form. I have tried looking on Moto's and Google's spec websites and there is nothing about the audio part of the device....
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I am fairly sure FLAC files are supported by the current version of android. I just flashed a completely stock rom, no root on my N5 and I am able to play FLAC on it using Shuttle+.
Power amp pro is worth the purchase. It made my N3 sound soooo much better. Out of the speaker, headphones, and aux out for playing music. Also ViperFX and Volume+ were good at tweaking your sound.
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Power amp pro is worth the purchase. It made my N3 sound soooo much better. Out of the speaker, headphones, and aux out for playing music. Also ViperFX and Volume+ were good at tweaking your sound.
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+1 for Poweramp
I'm curious how the front speqkers compare to my m8. I love the audio on this phone.
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There are 2 main improvement in android L for sound: low latency and usb-enabled headphones. I'm not an audiophile myself but I guess for startes those two should make a difference.
That being said, unfortunatly, headphones quality output is something hard to tell without specific reviews.
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I know right.. I think Apple's audio superiority comes from the fact that they use a totally separate processing unit, independent of the processor for Audio processing. Where as Android phones generally use qualcomm's SOC and they dont have there own dedicated DAC. I may be mistaken on some of that lingo, but I think its close enough.
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Funny you talk about Apple's "audio superiority" when their headphone jacks across iPad, PowerBook/MacBook, iPhone, and iPod lines have been poorly grounded for years.

Headphone Output Quality

I'm coming from a Oneplus One a much better phone for music than my poor old Galaxy S2. How does the Oneplus 3 do compared to its predecessor's? Is it loud, undistorted, have a good range in its built-in DAC for the 3.5mm Jack?
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I haven't got mine yet although from all the reviews i've seen they say the earphone quality is good
It sound really good in my opinion. Even better than my Samsung GT I9000
Yes, with sony headphone the quality is very good
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It sound really good in my optionion. Even better than my Samsung GT I9000
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No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
Loving the sound from my Xiaomi Mi Piston 3 on my Oneplus 3..!
It easily tops the quality and power of the Nexus 6. My completely stock OP3 sounds just as good and loud as my rooted N6 using Viper4Android.
Not bad at all, much better than my Nexus 5X.
Sound quality is good and I was a bit worried when I got mine. Coming from a Huawei P8, which I found to be great, I have been very happy with OP3.
I use Neutron player and after I took time to disable some features and enable others, I am very pleased. Output is loud and clear makes my earbuds boom nicely. Overall, no complaints at all. Speaker volume on the other hand... not as good as I'd like.
But, headphone, for me anyway, is most important.
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No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
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Thats exactly what i was thinking
R3Lax1 said:
No wonder it's gonna be better than a 6 year old phone.
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Mulayan said:
Thats exactly what i was thinking
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Right, so you clearly have no idea :laugh:
Maybe you should look up the Wolfson WM8994
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Right, so you clearly have no idea :laugh:
Maybe you should look up the Wolfson WM8994
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We are talking about normal Android devices and not some piece of sh*t you found somewhere on the Internet...
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We are talking about normal Android devices and not some piece of sh*t you found somewhere on the Internet...
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Ahem... I think that the Wolfson WM8994 is the audio chipset of the first Samsung galaxy ( am i right ? ) not a phone...
It has the generic Snapdragon converter. Nothing special but sound quality is decent through the h/phone out. When I had the phone I used it a couple of times with both Grado and Sennheiser cans. No real complaints, not amazing. Good enough imho.
We see here again in this thread that many people mean "loud" when they say "good quality".
Yes, the signal level on the headphone jack is quite high. This has the advantage that high-impedance headphones (i.e. "those big ones for audiophiles") work without problems with the OP3 and are loud enough; on many smartphones, this is not the case.
Furthermore, the dynamic range is really good. I.e., the difference between the quietest and the loudest parts of a recording is reproduced quite faithfully. This is also not a given on smartphones.
The actual sound quality (!) is absolutely OK but of course not on the level of more advanced DACs.
The non-audiophile listener with his usual MP3s of pop music will be completely content.
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Ahem... I think that the Wolfson WM8994 is the audio chipset of the first Samsung galaxy ( am i right ? ) not a phone...
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I never said it's a phone. Do I?
The Wolfson is actually the DAC which is used in The Galaxy S and there was an App called Voodoo Controller by Supercurio which enabled really undistorted and clear output.
Wolfson DACs where also used in some BMW and Mercedes by the way...
Finally mines arrived been using it for a day listening with inateck Aries earphones and I'm very impressed good amount of bass and undistorted Highs. Using viper on oxygenos. Way better than my s2 and not massively better than my oneplus one.
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We see here again in this thread that many people mean "loud" when they say "good quality".
Yes, the signal level on the headphone jack is quite high. This has the advantage that high-impedance headphones (i.e. "those big ones for audiophiles") work without problems with the OP3 and are loud enough; on many smartphones, this is not the case.
Furthermore, the dynamic range is really good. I.e., the difference between the quietest and the loudest parts of a recording is reproduced quite faithfully. This is also not a given on smartphones.
The actual sound quality (!) is absolutely OK but of course not on the level of more advanced DACs.
The non-audiophile listener with his usual MP3s of pop music will be completely content.
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So the sound quality is average as for the phone? So probably big difference compared to good quality mp3 player? I was thinking if zte axon 7 has really better sound quality or just dolby, useless for music 32bit. People say it's noticeably better, but just because it has more bass or whatever, or with dolby on when it can get only worse for music.
Maybe you or anyone else knows something about sound quality, has a good headphones to check it, has some comparison to good portable audio player or decent phone.
I'm not an audiophile but I can appreciate sound quality more than others, I'm using old Cowon j3 player and it sounds really well. Have also OPO which I'm using with Spotify, but can hear sound degradation over Cowon
When it's loud, or has a lot of bass or hurting ears high tones says nothing about sound quality. I would like to know how is the soundstage, if the instruments are separate, if they are heard well not mixed up with other sounds, if the sound is flat or not, you said the dynamic range is fine, that's good.
Do anyone know what sound chip is inside OP3?

Truly wireless earbuds for the Note 8?

Which truly wireless earbuds are you using with the Note 8 and you would recommend? Looking to buy one.
Been eyeing the Beoplay E8. I am more concerned about audio fidelity (for a bluetooth device) over any other factors.
Praks93 said:
Which truly wireless earbuds are you using with the Note 8 and you would recommend? Looking to buy one.
Been eyeing the Beoplay E8. I am more concerned about audio fidelity (for a bluetooth device) over any other factors.
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The Beoplay E8 and Apple Airpods seem to be the best for the Note 8.
very good review of a few including the two above:
the guy named Jay does a solid comparison of the E8 and Airpods on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B074WTL19N/ref=mw_dp_cr
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The Beoplay E8 and Apple Airpods seem to be the best for the Note 8.
very good review of a few including the two above:
the guy named Jay does a solid comparison of the E8 and Airpods on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/B074WTL19N/ref=mw_dp_cr
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My concern is that he is testing all these using an iPhone. With the Note 8, even the codec being used changes. That is why I am looking for actual people using the Note 8 with wireless buds.
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My concern is that he is testing all these using an iPhone. With the Note 8, even the codec being used changes. That is why I am looking for actual people using the Note 8 with wireless buds.
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He tested with note 8:
a few Amazon reviews have the note 8 in the link I posted comparing the E8 to Airpods.
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My concern is that he is testing all these using an iPhone. With the Note 8, even the codec being used changes. That is why I am looking for actual people using the Note 8 with wireless buds.
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I've been using Beoplay E8's with Note 8 for the past 3 weeks and I've gotta say, I'm amazed! Audio quality is good, connection strong, and no issues so far. App lets you adjust audio and build is outstanding.
I've been using Gear Gear Iconx (2016) would love to upgrade to the 2017 model for better battery life.
I got the 2018 icon X. They can be paired with a device or even used without one. They sound good and have good touch controls.
I had the Icon X 2018, got them from B&H for $150, they were great at the beginning, but some annoynaces were like this:
1. No way to Power Off the buds without putting them back in the case, this means lots of charging/discharging the whole time.
2. Touch controls became finicky after about 2 weeks.
3. Totally subjective I know, but they hurt my ears, tried all combinations.
Back to Jaybird RUN, with latest FW Update the BT connection is rock solid, Volume is much higher than the IconX 2018, and the sound fidelity through the Jaybird App EQ settings is Superb to say the least, and I'm a musician so I know quality sound vs ... you know!
I just picked up the Blueant Pump Air.
Not bad at all and super light (4 grams)
http://www.myblueant.com/products/headphones/pumpair/
I have finally decided to pick up the E8. Once the Note 8 gets Oreo (which should be soon), i guess the lack of aptx will not matter much.
How is the audio delay when watching youtube videos with the latest firmware?
On a side note, there is Ashley Chloe's Fuse coming out soon. They have aptx and usb c charging! Would have considered them if they were to be available by mid february.
I have the Jabra elite sport and I really like them
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...tAQoQgcgCCEM&usg=AOvVaw2MG-SYwF_n8q6eGxk79VoA
Willy318is said:
I had the Icon X 2018, got them from B&H for $150, they were great at the beginning, but some annoynaces were like this:
1. No way to Power Off the buds without putting them back in the case, this means lots of charging/discharging the whole time.
2. Touch controls became finicky after about 2 weeks.
3. Totally subjective I know, but they hurt my ears, tried all combinations.
Back to Jaybird RUN, with latest FW Update the BT connection is rock solid, Volume is much higher than the IconX 2018, and the sound fidelity through the Jaybird App EQ settings is Superb to say the least, and I'm a musician so I know quality sound vs ... you know!
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1. They power off on their own when disconnected from blue tooth.
2. I've had them since Christmas and use them everyday. Touch controls work as good as they did when I got them. Not sure what exactly would make them "finicky" after working fine.
3. They literally have four different size pads. If you can't find a fit, then you got wonky ears lol.
Seems you quickly wrote off the IconX because you all ready had your mind made up. Which is fine, but let's be honest. The jaybird RUN is an icon X knockoff. And what's funny is I read more issues about the jaybird sounding bad and not fitting right. They even have the same pod case setup that Samsung uses. And surprise, surprise, they are just $15 less msrp than the icon X. You can tell they are trying to be the icon X. I'll just stick to the original that happens to also work seamlessly with my device. I'm also not sure what being a musician has to do with hearing sound quality, but hey, as long as you feel good about it...
I was looking at the B&O but ended up ordering the crazybaby nano off indiegogo mainly due to BT5 and future proofed.
These are shipping this month and the order is locked so have no doubt to question this date (as I am with other campaigns).
NONE OF THEM SOUND GOOD
you'd be disappointed.
i have the the bose one, bragi one
TheUndertaker21 said:
NONE OF THEM SOUND GOOD
you'd be disappointed.
i have the the bose one, bragi one
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IconX sound great.
Gizmoe said:
1. They power off on their own when disconnected from blue tooth.
2. I've had them since Christmas and use them everyday. Touch controls work as good as they did when I got them. Not sure what exactly would make them "finicky" after working fine.
3. They literally have four different size pads. If you can't find a fit, then you got wonky ears lol.
Seems you quickly wrote off the IconX because you all ready had your mind made up. Which is fine, but let's be honest. The jaybird RUN is an icon X knockoff. And what's funny is I read more issues about the jaybird sounding bad and not fitting right. They even have the same pod case setup that Samsung uses. And surprise, surprise, they are just $15 less msrp than the icon X. You can tell they are trying to be the icon X. I'll just stick to the original that happens to also work seamlessly with my device. I'm also not sure what being a musician has to do with hearing sound quality, but hey, as long as you feel good about it...
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Hey, do you have issues? or really really long free and boredom time at your hands?
You criticised and analyzed every bit of word that I wrote, as if you are the master of the world, and you know everything and that you are God of technology. Grow the f up dude, I was just sharing my experience peacefully, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I loved the IconX but preferred the Jaybird RUN at the end, end of story!
Let's not forget that the Truely wireless "thing" is still a new "thing" they will mature with time and provide better options than what we have now.
I have gone through a bunch of them - at the holiday -, and it was like you cannot just get all the PROS from all of them into 1 set, each had their pros and cons, like anything else.
I was expecting the Bose to be the top, but with their open-ended design, the sound was very shallow and thin, maybe it was made like this by design to provide ambiance awareness or sth., Elite Sport was great too.
Willy318is said:
Hey, do you have issues? or really really long free and boredom time at your hands?
You criticised and analyzed every bit of word that I wrote, as if you are the master of the world, and you know everything and that you are God of technology. Grow the f up dude, I was just sharing my experience peacefully, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I loved the IconX but preferred the Jaybird RUN at the end, end of story!
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Hey, I just didn't agree with you and I stated why. You are getting a bit heated over it. Relax... :thumbsup:
Could someone suggest one that won't cost me a kidney? Already sold my right kidney for Note 8. Jk but foreal nothing over $100? Now I could just search top ten earbuds for under $100. But I rather hear from someone who has the same phone as me. I've seen different results with headphones from 1 phone to a totally different phone.
Nick216ohio said:
Could someone suggest one that won't cost me a kidney? Already sold my right kidney for Note 8. Jk but foreal nothing over $100? Now I could just search top ten earbuds for under $100. But I rather hear from someone who has the same phone as me. I've seen different results with headphones from 1 phone to a totally different phone.
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Good wirefree headphones will be hard to find sub $100 since the tech is still new :/
If you are looking for good wired headphones, I'm using A-jays Five and Xiaomi Mi Headphones Pro HD and both are great for little money Jays sounds more natural and Mi sounds more bassy

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