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Like most of you here, I preordered a 8GB Nexus 7 from the Google Play Store soon after the announcement. However, when J&R had their 4th of July sale, I bought the 16GB for the same price (free shipping + no tax) and canceled my Google Play order.
Yesterday, I got a shipping notification from the Google Play Store so I called today to see if I could refuse shipping, and the customer service representative told me interesting news regarding the warranty:
He said if I ordered from a retailer other than Google, all warranty claims would be handled directly by ASUS. That could mean shipping to/from and a wait for your device to get repaired.
However, if you order from Google, all warranty claims will be handled by Google, and they will ship an advanced-replacement no questions asked with free shipping of your old tablet.
Thought I'd share with the community this information. This news is enough for me to just accept my Google Play order and cancel my J&R order considering this is a first-generation device which could have some manufacturing bugs in it.
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There are varying reports of whether or not this is true. What IS true is that without this written on paper, this statement by the CS rep is worthless. Worth giving a call and finding out for yourself. Hopefully it's true.
This reminds me: I bought the Nexus One from Google way back and the repair process was done completely through Google, not HTC. They sent me a new one and I put the old one in the box and shipped it back for free, just like this CS rep said for the Nexus 7. Just another hint that this may be true based on past experiences.
I was told the same, which is why I didn't go to gametop and cancel my GPS preorder. Google rep assured me its worth the wait
kwonyewest said:
Like most of you here, I preordered a 8GB Nexus 7 from the Google Play Store soon after the announcement. However, when J&R had their 4th of July sale, I bought the 16GB for the same price (free shipping + no tax) and canceled my Google Play order.
Yesterday, I got a shipping notification from the Google Play Store so I called today to see if I could refuse shipping, and the customer service representative told me interesting news regarding the warranty:
He said if I ordered from a retailer other than Google, all warranty claims would be handled directly by ASUS. That could mean shipping to/from and a wait for your device to get repaired.
However, if you order from Google, all warranty claims will be handled by Google, and they will ship an advanced-replacement no questions asked with free shipping of your old tablet.
Thought I'd share with the community this information. This news is enough for me to just accept my Google Play order and cancel my J&R order considering this is a first-generation device which could have some manufacturing bugs in it.
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Wow interesting, now I'm really not minding the wait
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Wow, if this is true that is indeed great news for those of us STILL waiting. Interesting however they mention free shipping, no questions asked.... when we can't get our questions answered about when we will get it, and we paid $14 2 day shipping.... LOL
smirkis said:
I was told the same, which is why I didn't go to gametop and cancel my GPS preorder. Google rep assured me its worth the wait
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It's good to know you got that information too. I'm a little skeptical about information told my customer service reps, especially with the whole shipping confirmation fiasco this past week. I'm sure they're well-intentioned, but some might just be misinformed.
Hmmm this is very interesting information. I have a order from Google that should arrive shortly, however I jumped at the opportunity to buy one from Sam's club. The Sam's club one was 20 cheaper, but it might be worth that to just deal with Google if there is a problem. Decisions decisions.
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Why not just get bestbuy to price match J&R or Sam's club if you can wait? Best buy is great for price matching and no hassle returns. In Canada at least. Not as crazy a return policy as Costco where you can literally take a crap on the product and if you ***** enough they will issue a full refund but pretty close.
From the Google Play website :
Nexus 7 limited warranty
The Nexus 7 is manufactured by ASUSTeK Computer Inc. ASUS provides a limited 12 month warranty for the Nexus 7. Please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or ASUS for details on the ASUS limited warranty.
It seems that ASUS is handling all warranty claims. Also Google Play only has a 15 day return policy. Unless they are doing something different from what is on the website. I would think the GP and retail packaging is the same, so the warranty information contained in the box would also be the same.
Great for those in the US, wonder how well it works for other country's, google certainly don't see the easiest people to get hold of if you live in the UK.
I'd rather buy from a store where I can actually take it back if there's a problem without having to deal with shipping it to another country.
SirWill said:
Wow, if this is true that is indeed great news for those of us STILL waiting. Interesting however they mention free shipping, no questions asked.... when we can't get our questions answered about when we will get it, and we paid $14 2 day shipping.... LOL
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Don't ask, don't tell.
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>However, if you order from Google, all warranty claims will be handled by Google, and they will ship an advanced-replacement no questions asked with free shipping of your old tablet.
No offense, but unless it's in writing, it's worthless. Whatever a CS rep say over the phone is suspect when he's trying to dissuade you from cancelling an order.
Google has no service center, so it can't handle warranty claims. It's common sense that Asus would handle it, which is what it says on the N7 warranty card. In writing.
Ditto for the "advance cross-ship" claim. Call whatever Google's tech-supp number, say you've got a bum unit, and ask for cross-ship. Find out firsthand. IMO, I doubt it.
so I just called into google and the rep did alot of researching for me. Basically there is no difference. With Google, you have a 15 day period. I bought through Sams, so I have a 30 day return period. After that it is all covered equally through ASUS.
He actually said that the exact process for handling claims under the 1 year warrenty hasnt been fully worked out by Google and Asus. He said that you would return to your manufacturer and they would instruct you on the return process. With them it would be mailing it in "at little or no cost to you". He said eventually it would all come back to them. He said that the google play store was just one of their distribution routes, and isnt treated differently than the other.
When I bought the device from Sams club I added on a 2 year warranty (3 total) through them, so I should be good to go.
>With Google, you have a 15 day period. I bought through Sams, so I have a 30 day return period.
Yep, always buy through a retailer, preferably a B&M one. Retailers exist for a reason: they're best equipped to deal with end users. Manufacturers aren't. You get better warranty terms, and more buyer protection from a retailer.
Plus, if push comes to shove, you can go into the store and make a scene. You can't do that over the phone or through e-mail when dealing with the manufacturer. They can tell you "tough luck," and you have little recourse. You can sue in small claims, but that's a hassle most people won't try.
kwonyewest said:
Like most of you here, I preordered a 8GB Nexus 7 from the Google Play Store soon after the announcement. However, when J&R had their 4th of July sale, I bought the 16GB for the same price (free shipping + no tax) and canceled my Google Play order.
Yesterday, I got a shipping notification from the Google Play Store so I called today to see if I could refuse shipping, and the customer service representative told me interesting news regarding the warranty:
He said if I ordered from a retailer other than Google, all warranty claims would be handled directly by ASUS. That could mean shipping to/from and a wait for your device to get repaired.
However, if you order from Google, all warranty claims will be handled by Google, and they will ship an advanced-replacement no questions asked with free shipping of your old tablet.
Thought I'd share with the community this information. This news is enough for me to just accept my Google Play order and cancel my J&R order considering this is a first-generation device which could have some manufacturing bugs in it.
EDIT:
There are varying reports of whether or not this is true. What IS true is that without this written on paper, this statement by the CS rep is worthless. Worth giving a call and finding out for yourself. Hopefully it's true.
This reminds me: I bought the Nexus One from Google way back and the repair process was done completely through Google, not HTC. They sent me a new one and I put the old one in the box and shipped it back for free, just like this CS rep said for the Nexus 7. Just another hint that this may be true based on past experiences.
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I was told the same thing by Google yesterday after waiting on hold for close to an hour to chew someone out lol but after I heard that I semi calmed me down and now I'm kinda alright with the wait.
meno73 said:
I was told the same thing by Google yesterday after waiting on hold for close to an hour to chew someone out lol but after I heard that I semi calmed me down and now I'm kinda alright with the wait.
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I could totally see them starting this specifically because of the dissatisfaction of their customers right now. I can't even imagine how many calls they must've gotten to cancel an order.
I just got off the phone with Google and I grilled the guy about the warranty for a good 10 minutes. He confirmed that there will in fact be advance replacements shipped out for all warranty claims. He also made mention of reduced costs for repairs should we damage our N7s. This right here is good enough for me, when mine arrives from Google Play, I will be returning the one I bought at ABT Electronics.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I just got off the phone with Google and I grilled the guy about the warranty for a good 10 minutes. He confirmed that there will in fact be advance replacements shipped out for all warranty claims. He also made mention of reduced costs for repairs should we damage our N7s. This right here is good enough for me, when mine arrives from Google Play, I will be returning the one I bought at ABT Electronics.
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So to summarize your actions:
- you buy from GP
- you buy another from ABT, and intend to refuse your GP version because you don't want to wait a few more days, thus costing Google money to process your return
- you "grill" Google's customer service for 10 minutes (mind you, just to obtain warranty information. Not like they are trying to screw you out of your money like cable or wireless companies).
- you now decide to keep the GP version when it arrives, and return your ABT version, thus costing ABT money to process your return
That's pretty selfish behavior IMO. It's all within your rights, but I certainly don't want to be on the other end dealing with customers like you. This type of behavior is also the reason why return policies get restricter over time, causing everyone to suffer for the actions of a few.
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I just got off the phone with Google and I grilled the guy about the warranty for a good 10 minutes. He confirmed that there will in fact be advance replacements shipped out for all warranty claims. He also made mention of reduced costs for repairs should we damage our N7s. This right here is good enough for me, when mine arrives from Google Play, I will be returning the one I bought at ABT Electronics.
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you'd be lucky if they take it back. GameStop assured me when I open it, its mine for life.
waiting isn't that bad, development is slow right now anyway
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I just got off the phone with Google and I grilled the guy about the warranty for a good 10 minutes. He confirmed that there will in fact be advance replacements shipped out for all warranty claims. He also made mention of reduced costs for repairs should we damage our N7s. This right here is good enough for me, when mine arrives from Google Play, I will be returning the one I bought at ABT Electronics.
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Trust me, they'll say whatever to get you off the line.
>GameStop assured me when I open it, its mine for life.
Retailers have different return policies for electronics. Best to check them before buying. Gamestop's policy is 30-day exchange, no refunds. Abt is 15-day exchange or refund (less 15% restocking).
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/help/Returns.aspx
http://www.abt.com/help/return-policy
>He confirmed that there will in fact be advance replacements shipped out for all warranty claims.
I've only seen advance cross-ship (what I call VIP service) on high-margin items, typically for business users, where service/support is a key selling point. N7 is a low-margin consumer device. Experience says that you won't get VIP treatment for a Walmart-type item.
Rather than asking the CS rep, you have an N7 in hand, so just call Google's 800 number and claim warranty service. Claim it's broken, and you want cross-ship. Do a dry run. See if they actually do it, and if they differentiate between those sold from Google Play and retailers.
Why is Google forcing advanced RMA's where they put a temporarily hold? Why cant it be that you send the device back they receive it and once it's cleared you get a replacement and you only get a advanced replacement if you ask for it or be presented the option to choose.
The email I was sent has the advanced replacement only with no other options!
Even if I return the device first and they say it's cleared and I click the order link there will still be a temporary charge! Why cant they update the link to be $0.00 to get a replacement and not ask for any card details? Before this happens they send you an email saying Good news your return was processed. Click here to receive your replacement free.
The policy is great for those who can put money on hold but what about those that cant or don't have the funds to back it. What. Are they forced to return the device to get a replacement?
They figure that everybody can put 200$ in funds on hold for a week with no other options expect to return it?
I also noticed that google isn't handling the returns. It appears SMS Infocom Corp is handling them out of Texas? What if they screw up and said that it's your fault so your charged for the new device?
Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty.
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Then you have to dispute it with Google or file a charge back. Wonderful
Most businesses give you the two options. The standard one that I just mentioned or the advanced replacement if they offer it.
This is bull**** IMO not allowing both options and only the advanced replacement. Even the rep on the phone at google said it was crappy. I'm serious.
I do not have the 200$ in my account to back the temporary authorization
So do I have to return it for a refund to get a replacement?
Actually it is a great policy, well at least for those of us with credit cards that aren't maxed out.
I like not having to wait the additional time it takes to send the defective unit back before getting a replacement shipped out.
BamAlmighty said:
Actually it is a great policy, well at least for those of us with credit cards that aren't maxed out.
I like not having to wait the additional time it takes to send the defective unit back before getting a replacement shipped out.
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Well that's the problem. It works for some people that are able to do so. What about the others that cant? Then it's horrible for those that cant.
Why didn't they have both options and give you the choice?
I'm still awaiting a email from Google about it.
Seems like I'm forced to return it for a refund to a replacement.
It is logistically easier to do it the way they are doing it... Quite different if you are dealing with a brick and mortar shop, just go in and exchange it. No risk of having extra hardware floating around.
As for having a third party company to deal with the returns is not all that unusual. A lot of companies do that.
Not sure how many people would buy a Nexus if their card(s) were maxed out.
Did you call Asus, see which options they have.
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If they wanna hold another $249 from me that's fine. I also buy things when I know I have room on my credit card as well as my bank account.
krelvinaz said:
It is logistically easier to do it the way they are doing it... Quite different if you are dealing with a brick and mortar shop, just go in and exchange it. No risk of having extra hardware floating around.
As for having a third party company to deal with the returns is not all that unusual. A lot of companies do that.
Not sure how many people would buy a Nexus if their card(s) were maxed out.
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Alot of people used bank accounts and not credit cards. Why are people getting the notion that everybody has a credit card they can use to back it?
See that's the problem. Makes it easier for them but harder for those who cant put a temporary charge.
rafa3L said:
Did you call Asus, see which options they have.
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I could try that.
I'm tempted to just say screw it and keep it an deal with it due to the policy. If it breaks then deal with Asus down the road.
pclov3r said:
Alot of people used bank accounts and not credit cards. Why are people getting the notion that everybody has a credit card they can use to back it?
See that's the problem. Makes it easier for them but harder for those who cant put a temporary charge.
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Debit cards are really handy, the merchant pretty much sees them as the same, but in fact they are not.
Debit card only deals with CASH in your bank. When it is put on hold that CASH is on hold. Credit cards put holds on available Credit, Not Cash unless you are using a pre-paid credit card which is really more like a Debit card.
You don't have the same protections buying with a Debit card as you do with a Credit card, the first being, they didn't get your CASH, they are only putting a hold on your Credit. If you can't afford the CASH, you shouldn't be using it.
krelvinaz said:
Debit cards are really handy, the merchant pretty much sees them as the same, but in fact they are not.
Debit card only deals with CASH in your bank. When it is put on hold that CASH is on hold. Credit cards put holds on available Credit, Not Cash unless you are using a pre-paid credit card which is really more like a Debit card.
You don't have the same protections buying with a Debit card as you do with a Credit card, the first being, they didn't get your CASH, they are only putting a hold on your Credit. If you can't afford the CASH, you shouldn't be using it.
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Yeah. They figured everybody has a credit card or bank accounts with the cash to temporarily fund it?
Still BS imo that they don't have the other option. I may be forced to return it for refund or deal with it as is. I figured they would give you both options.
"If you can't afford the CASH, you shouldn't be using it." Yes, But what other options do I have? Google is giving you no other option it seems expect to return it for a refund or deal with ASUS. As i said even the google rep said this wasn't going to work for everybody!
I'm hoping they can do what I said in the first post and honestly I see no reason why they wouldn't unless there system doesn't work.
I'm awaiting another reply form upper Management i guess about this.
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Debit cards are really handy, the merchant pretty much sees them as the same, but in fact they are not.
Debit card only deals with CASH in your bank. When it is put on hold that CASH is on hold. Credit cards put holds on available Credit, Not Cash unless you are using a pre-paid credit card which is really more like a Debit card.
You don't have the same protections buying with a Debit card as you do with a Credit card, the first being, they didn't get your CASH, they are only putting a hold on your Credit. If you can't afford the CASH, you shouldn't be using it.
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A strange elitist comment, so this guy paid in full for a tablet but in order to get a warranty replacement he should have calculated in double the price of the tablet, before he even purchased the tablet?
Went through the RMA process and it came off as Google was not quite sure how to handle advanced replacements, the whole emailing me a special link to buy a replacement tablet as it were. Was completely half ass'ed, they already have mine/our billing info why not just do anything with anyone's money after a tech has gave it once over
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BrianDigital said:
A strange elitist comment, so this guy paid in full for a tablet but in order to get a warranty replacement he should have calculated in double the price of the tablet, before he even purchased the tablet?
Went through the RMA process and it came off as Google was not quite sure how to handle advanced replacements, the whole emailing me a special link to buy a replacement tablet as it were. Was completely half ass'ed, they already have mine/our billing info why not just do anything with anyone's money after a tech has gave it once over
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Thank you this is exactly my point.
This is going to probably be my first and only purchase for a google device form the google play store. Why is there no standard replacment like any normal company does such as Evga for example or a online retailers such as Amazon newegg etc.
What is up with the advanced link?
I hate to say it but my Dad just pointed out that something is shady about this only giving you this one option. What scares me the most is the following
"Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty."
pclov3r said:
Well that's the problem. It works for some people that are able to do so. What about the others that cant? Then it's horrible for those that cant.
Why didn't they have both options and give you the choice?
I'm still awaiting a email from Google about it.
Seems like I'm forced to return it for a refund to a replacement.
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First, first world problem. Second, sounds like you don't have your priorities straight. 3rd life ain't easy. 4th if you don't like it complain to them and do business with companies that meet your needs. Last, owning a N7 is not a right you aren't entitled.
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pclov3r said:
Thank you this is exactly my point.
This is going to probably be my first and only purchase for a google device form the google play store. Why is there no standard replacment like any normal company does such as Evga for example or a online retailers such as Amazon newegg etc.
What is up with the advanced link?
I hate to say it but my Dad just pointed out that something is shady about this only giving you this one option. What scares me the most is the following
"Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty."
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I've never had to return my asus laptop and netbook to them since I have warranties with best buy but I really haven't heard a lot of good things with asus and their warranty. Personally that's why I'm sticking with google at the moment. My original was epic screen lift and I got replacement on friday and haven't hardly used it between friday and saturday due to work and it has a dead pixel and something is rattling around near the top. I'd rather have Google 2 day me a new one then wait god knows how long for asus.
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Thank you this is exactly my point.
This is going to probably be my first and only purchase for a google device form the google play store. Why is there no standard replacment like any normal company does such as Evga for example or a online retailers such as Amazon newegg etc.
What is up with the advanced link?
I hate to say it but my Dad just pointed out that something is shady about this only giving you this one option. What scares me the most is the following
"Additional charges up to the full price of your device will be incurred if our service center determines that the damage to your original device isn’t covered under warranty. Prior to ordering your replacement and sending your device for inspection, please refer to the warranty card in the Nexus 7 packaging or visit www.asus.com for details on the ASUS limited warranty."
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Ever hear of money orders., paying by cash as in waiting until you can walk into a store and buy one. You are wrong, there are many options starting with take your business elsewhere.
By the way I would be careful suggesting something is shady that is pretty much a common business practice.
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So, if I have to RMA, I have to have an additional $199 for the tablet on a credit card? I thought the policy was for Google to try to take the additional money AFTER the amount of time has passed that they didn't receive the tablet back (21 days?).
It's going to be real tricky trying to keep $200 on a card... especially since bills and stuff usually take my card below $200 each month. But then again, I guess I can hope to have a flawless device
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By the way I would be careful suggesting something is shady that is pretty much a common business practice.
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So it's common for businesses to force you to do an advanced replacement with no other options when 10 other businesses I've dealt with offer what I'm saying?
So in your option you should have double the cost of an item on your card before you buy it for this very reason?
Let me make it very clear
NOT EVERYBODY HAS A CREDIT CARD OR $200 IN EXTRA MONEY THEY CAN PUT ON HOLD FOR THE NEXT WEEK AND A HALF!!!
WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT
DO YOU BUY PRODUCTS AND SAY THAT YOU NEED DOUBLE THE AMOUNT ENCASE THE PRODUCT IS DEFECTIVE? NO!
SERIOUSLY!
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So, if I have to RMA, I have to have an additional $199 for the tablet on a credit card? I thought the policy was for Google to try to take the additional money AFTER the amount of time has passed that they didn't receive the tablet back (21 days?).
It's going to be real tricky trying to keep $200 on a card... especially since bills and stuff usually take my card below $200 each month. But then again, I guess I can hope to have a flawless device
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They're not "taking" your money. They're putting a temporary authorization of the amount of whatever account you're using for the replacement (such as a bank account, credit card, etc.) Once they receive the defective tablet within 21 days and make sure it's all good then they'll take that temp authorization off your account. But if it's not returned to them within the 21 days that's when I believe they can charge you.
This will explain it more too
https://play.google.com/about/device-terms.html
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They're not "taking" your money. They're putting a temporary authorization of the amount of whatever account you're using for the replacement (such as a bank account, credit card, etc.) Once they receive the defective tablet within 21 days and make sure it's all good then they'll take that temp authorization off your account. But if it's not returned to them within the 21 days that's when I believe they can charge you.
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Yes, But the problem occurs when you don't have the extra money to put on hold.
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Yes, But the problem occurs when you don't have the extra money to put on hold.
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Yea well sorry to burst your bubble but the minute you ordered your tablet and an email was sent to you saying thank you for your purchase they provided the link to their devices support. So from that moment they laid out the whole process of how this would work. Now whether or not you read it well that was your choice but all that information was there and just didn't mysteriously show up.
https://play.google.com/about/device-terms.html
So I just had to do initialize a warranty replacement for my phone due to the 'creaking' some people reported involving the corner of the phone. I just don't want to risk it getting worse or me being annoyed to no end because of it so I figured do it sooner than later.
Anyway, I called today because I assumed that the same policy that governed the Galaxy Nexus applied (You have two weeks from the date you get the phone to do a clean-and-clear replacement of the device for warranty issues anything after that requires mailing out for repair.)
However, the guy I talked to tells me that this warranty is different than the Samsung. Like with purchasing a phone through a carrier, if your phone has any problem covered by the warranty, they will replace the device no matter how long it's been since you purchased it (so long as it is still within the 1-year warranty)
I have to say I am so so very pleased to see this! My greatest fear with buying the phone is that if something went wrong I would have to mail it out and be without a phone for several weeks like was the case with the Galaxy Nexus. I figured since so many people have no shortage of complaints about the device I would share something that has very much improved!
Is this warranty through your carrier or LG?
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Redmed427 said:
Is this warranty through your carrier or LG?
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I was thinking Google.
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I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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Wow that sounds pretty great. About the one thing Google got right about this whole process lol. Sounds like they were expecting lots of returns.
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ohhdavid said:
I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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Where is this policy published?
That's good news. I am getting my phone this week but I'm too busy with work related stuff that needs to be completed before I fly out to Europe for vacation until mid. January.
I was afraid of discovering an issue when on vacation and getting screwed just because I cannot receive a new phone and send in the old one. No need to worry I guess.
The 'hold to cross-ship' replacement policy has been in place since the Nexus One days, and is a great policy.
It's not actually THAT great. Everyone doesn't have $400 disposable at any given time. So say I don't have any money and my device breaks then I'm S.O.L.. That my friend is not okay. They can't put a hold on a card if there's no funds there.
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They also mention to contact them if a hold on a card is not feasible and they'll be able to work with you. I just had one done
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Freshly_Snipes said:
It's not actually THAT great. Everyone doesn't have $400 disposable at any given time. So say I don't have any money and my device breaks then I'm S.O.L.. That my friend is not okay. They can't put a hold on a card if there's no funds there.
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Never SOL on a legit RMA claim. .cross-ship is just a great option offered, especially if your phone is somewhat functional, you're not out of use at all while you get new unit. Besided it's not El Goog's fault you're broke.
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Yep the warranty through the play store is the only reason I didn't buy from elsewhere... Well that and the price. They always do advance replacement instead of having you ship the thing back on your own device and wait more than a month to get it back. It's one of the few things Google got right with their hardware selling venture. Unfortunately for me, I have terrible luck with replacements. Couldn't get an n7 that wasn't more borked than the previous one. My n10 has a very slight issue but the replacement has the worst screen I've ever seen. Didn't want to go through the hassle of endless card authorizations and shipping devices back and forth so I'm just going to keep it. My n4 has bad light bleed and half the screen is yellow so its replacement is on its way to me and I pray this one breaks my replacement curse. I wish they actually did some kind of qc on their replacement stock before shipping, especially given that critical buyers with problems are much more likely to scrutinize the replacement device once they have had a bad experience to begin with.
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Edit: Google swipe isn't perfect yet
This warranty system sounds great, but do they send a prepaid shipping label or is that from our own pockets?
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This warranty system sounds great, but do they send a prepaid shipping label or is that from our own pockets?
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Google supplies the shipping labels.
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wideasleep1 said:
Never SOL on a legit RMA claim. .cross-ship is just a great option offered, especially if your phone is somewhat functional, you're not out of use at all while you get new unit. Besided it's not El Goog's fault you're broke.
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well if it's just a hold then it doesnt havt't to be 400 bucks, it can just be a dollar and if you dont send in your phone then they charge for the one they sent out, im assuming?
like going to the gas station and how its a dollar until it runs through the system
Garciahenry63 said:
well if it's just a hold then it doesnt havt't to be 400 bucks, it can just be a dollar and if you dont send in your phone then they charge for the one they sent out, im assuming?
like going to the gas station and how its a dollar until it runs through the system
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The problem here is, people are far from honest. I see people here claiming fraud for a lot of things just to get something for free. Number one I've noticed are fraudulent warranty claims. Or selling a broken phone on ebay as working. Everybody lies.
Would Google really send out a phone for "free"? It only makes sense that they charge you for what it's worth. Think of it as a core charge when turning in an alternator or some high priced item for repair. You don't return it? It's your money you're losing.
I hope this is true because with my galaxy nexus they told I needed to contact samsung if it was a hardware problem because they only deal with software problems.So after I contacted samsung I had to ship my phone to them and waited 2 weeks get it replaced and I had no other phone to use because it was my 1st gsm phone after leaving Verizon so I could be contract free.So my 1st experience with them sucked.
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I bought my phone through the Google Play store.
Google processes all warranty claims for the phone (no referring you to manufacturer like they did with Samsung)
If you call to report a warranty-covered issue with the phone, as long as it is not caused by you (ie: your screen doesn't work because you dropped it and it cracked open)
Google will send you a link to "re-purchase" a replacement device through the google play store which puts a hold on your credit card for the sale price (less shipping+tax) and emails you a shipping label.
This part may annoy some people but really, it makes sense. Cell phone carriers don't need to put the hold because they have your SSN and can send you to collections/cancel your service if you fail to return the phone but Google has no such leverage.
Once you send back your device, the hold goes away and you're good to go.
You have 21 days from when you get your new device delivered to send in your old phone.
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Just to clarify on the last point.. You have 21 days to return it from the day you receive the email detailing how to order a replacement (sent by the rep you speak with on the phone) and so if your replacement takes 14 days to ship, 2 days to arrive you've only got 5 days left to get it back to them which is cutting it short. :/
Source: I issued an RMA and that's what the email says at the top.
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Okay so keep an open mind here guys.
I initiated an RMA last night and I fully intend to return my defective device, but the whole deal with them shipping you a new phone before you send yours back raises an interesting question.
What'd happen if you didn't send yours back and just kept the two? Obviously you'd be charged for both so there's no theft going on, but for those that wanted to purchase 2 and coul could only get one, could they theoretically 'buy' another device this way? It'd be unethical of course, you scamming (in a sense) a phone that countless people are trying to get their hands on, but no more unethical than those scalpers on eBay. They say you have 21 days to return it otherwise your card will be charged, so this could be a very sneaky method of beating the queue.
Like I said before it's unethical and I don't intend to do it, but for those that want a second device for their partner or for someone else... Food for thought I suppose.
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Okay so keep an open mind here guys.
I initiated an RMA last night and I fully intend to return my defective device, but the whole deal with them shipping you a new phone before you send yours back raises an interesting question.
What'd happen if you didn't send yours back and just kept the two? Obviously you'd be charged for both so there's no theft going on, but for those that wanted to purchase 2 and coul could only get one, could they theoretically 'buy' another device this way? It'd be unethical of course, you scamming (in a sense) a phone that countless people are trying to get their hands on, but no more unethical than those scalpers on eBay. They say you have 21 days to return it otherwise your card will be charged, so this could be a very sneaky method of beating the queue.
Like I said before it's unethical and I don't intend to do it, but for those that want a second device for their partner or for someone else... Food for thought I suppose.
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Well they would get to keep the money they put on hold, and charge you for full shipping.
They would also probably black list you as a customer, so you could never order from them again.
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Just to clarify on the last point.. You have 21 days to return it from the day you receive the email detailing how to order a replacement (sent by the rep you speak with on the phone) and so if your replacement takes 14 days to ship, 2 days to arrive you've only got 5 days left to get it back to them which is cutting it short. :/
Source: I issued an RMA and that's what the email says at the top.
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No, it's from the date you received the replacement. Source: I issued an RMA and that's what the e-mail says.
UNDERSTANDING CREDIT CARD AUTHORIZATION (NOT A CHARGE)
An authorization for the full price of the replacement device will be placed on your credit card when you place the order in step one. This means that a portion of your card’s credit limit is held for several days, but no charge is made if your original device arrives at our repair center no longer than 21 days from the date of receiving your replacement device is verified to be covered under warranty.
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Folks
I'm not good with my phones and Verizon corporate support has been quite lenient with me in replacing broken phones (sometimes with cracks on the glass too)
Is there any coverage that Google play store or Motorola store offer that would cover the phone in case of damage? Kind of like insurance. Looking forward to next wed
Thanks
Moto care just go on their site
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Do you know how much it costs and if it's 1yr, 2 yr or 3 yrs. I haven't bought one yet as the 64gb isn't available
Does google offer something similar?
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Do you know how much it costs and if it's 1yr, 2 yr or 3 yrs. I haven't bought one yet as the 64gb isn't available
Does google offer something similar?
Thx
sam008 said:
Do you know how much it costs and if it's 1yr, 2 yr or 3 yrs. I haven't bought one yet as the 64gb isn't available
Does google offer something similar?
Thx
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google offers just the factory replacement, but they do let buyers get a free "get out of jail card". meaning, only one time they will replace your n6 or n5 for any kind of damage, even if you break it yourself. if you bought it through the play store.
I didn't see anything documented on that get out of jail - is that just an informal policy or you have a link I can read up on?
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sam008 said:
I didn't see anything documented on that get out of jail - is that just an informal policy or you have a link I can read up on?
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if you search, you can find evidence of this. here is an article, about a nexus 5 exchange, which google themselves said that they will include the nexus 6 as well, for a one time exchange for any reason http://www.starkinsider.com/2014/09/google-replacing-nexus-5-phones-warranty.html oh, and another one http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/03/ye...-replace-your-nexus-5-if-you-bust-the-screen/
i think its an informal policy, not written anywhere. i broke my screen on my n5, but bought it through tmobile. i tried to get google to replace it, and they about did, until they found out i bought it through tmobile, and not the play store.
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from the second article i linked..
Here’s the criteria, as explained to us by Google Play support:
The phone must have been purchased through the Google Play store. So buying a broken Nexus 5 off Craigslist probably won’t work.
It’s a one-time exception.
You must be within one year of the purchase date.
The phone you get will be a refurb.
A Google spokesperson confirmed the new “exception,” but was quick to reaffirm that, “this special exception is available in the U.S. only at this time.”
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Take this as a warning & advice from someone who bought this phone and had to deal with OnePlus support & repair centre
On the XDA forum everything seems ok but if you go to the official OP3 ...people have a problem with this phone https://forums.oneplus.net/forums/OnePlus3
You can protect yourself from fraud only if you buy this phone from a store in your country which has to comply with strict terms for repair & service, if you buy it from their website (https://oneplus.net/uk/oneplus-3)- you basically buy the phone from a store in China and you will not have any buyer rights if you are in Europe or USA etc You pay with paypal and you are protected for 30 days but after that you will have nobody to complain to!
OnePlus has the worst support you can imagine, they seem friendly but they will deceit you - that is my experience ~ and i can prove it !
You might think: hey i`m gonna take good care of it and nothing can go wrong! That is what i said until an official update destroyed my phone
If you send your phone for repair you do not get any information unless you dig it yourself! Here in Europe the phone is 'repaired' by Arvato who are also scammers, most of the time they do not have the components for repairs so they take motherboards or other pieces from a phone which came with a problem and put it in another phone with a different problem! https://portal.teleservice.com/tassweb2search/simpleSearch/search-cz.seam Not to mention that it will take 1 month for them to 'repair' your phone ! This is because they are not bound by EU laws since you did not buy the phone in Europe ! So please consider these things before buying your OnePlsu3 phone from this company
Meeh
ooeehhhh, just bought it online 2 hours ago........let's see, can't change it now anymore.....
Learn from other people experience, if you buy smth from China and you are in France...where do you complain if you have a problem?
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/my-op3-repair-experience.467461 & https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-3-repair-lack-of-information-from-oneplus.467878
I am From Germany and Bought it From German Site
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Thats wrong. If you buy from the official website and they offer support for your country (means they send their devices to your country) then they need to give you the buyer rights that are active in your country (2 years in the EU)
I bought mine from the official website and they send me my device (same like the oneplus one) to germany and I never had any problems with the device or the support.
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I am From Germany and Bought it From German SiteGesendet von meinem ONEPLUS A3003
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what matters is not where the site is hosted or registered but where is the store located ! Which store is that?
you can buy on Amazon.DE from people & stores located in...other country and all Amazon can do is to block them selling on amazon.de
PlayingLikeAGenius said:
If you buy from the official website and they offer support for your country (means they send their devices to your country) then they need to give you the buyer rights that are active in your country (2 years in the EU)
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FALSE ! If you buy from their official website it means you are buying a product from an online store located in China which is bound to Chinese laws, not EU laws! And this reminds me that i have not received any warranty papers from OnePlus or even an invoice !!!
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I never had any problems with the device or the support.
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your logic is MIA and you sound like one of those OnePlus support people...
how can you have a problem with support when you say you never had any problem with the device?
Admittedly not much use to anyone outside the UK, but...
I've just picked my UK version of the OnePlus 3 (A3003) at an 02 shop this morning as a 'click & collect', now they available to buy there. But used the online site to pay for it, as there's the 14 day 'cooling off' clause built into the online purchase. As I bought it with a retailer, the warranty for the phone is with 02 now, so any repairs/replacements are their problem.
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Admittedly not much use to anyone outside the UK, but... I've just picked my UK version of the OnePlus 3 (A3003) at an 02 shop this morning as a 'click & collect', now they available to buy there. But used the online site to pay for it, as there's the 14 day 'cooling off' clause built into the online purchase.
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you are fine! You bought your phone from a store located in UK which gives you the protection of british & eu law
my warning applies to those who buy from the OnePlus online store which is located in China and for which European law does not apply
if someone would buy this phone online, from this website: https://oneplus.net/uk/oneplus-3 than they will not benefit from the same protection since that store is in China and it is only bound by chinese laws. For this situation NO authority in Europe can help you
The EU/US warranty is available, just check their website:
- US warranty policy
- EU warranty policy (Belgium, in french)
It's written US buyers have 1 year warranty and the EU buyers have 2 years warranty, starting from the delivery day.
One could reply saying that you sound like someone working for a retailer wanting people buy phones locally instead of from the online store. But lets move over, how could an official update destroy your phone? What happened?
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Bjarne73 said:
One could reply saying that you sound like someone working for a retailer wanting people buy phones locally instead of from the online store. But lets move over, how could an official update destroy your phone? What happened?
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i did not even say in which country i am it is true that i want people to buy stuff from legit stores. so?
your logic is failing me, whether you buy from OP store or locally you still buy their phone and they get your money !
there is already a topic where i explained my phone issue, lets not change the subject!
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The EU/US warranty is available, just check their website
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'check their website' ??? they can say anything they want on their website....it is useless
i wanna check an official paper but i did not get anything when i bought the phone, not warranty papers & not even an invoice
Can anyone show us an official WARRANTY paper from OnePlus for a phone bought from their website? https://oneplus.net/uk/oneplus-3
Official warranty paper -> https://oneplus.net/uk/privacy-and-legal
Print it, read it - problem solved.
Stop running your mouth off - it looks bad.
Guide for you here: http://ittybiz.com/how-to-avoid-running-your-mouth-off-online/
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Official warranty paper -> https://oneplus.net/uk/privacy-and-legal
Print it, read it - problem solved.
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maybe you're running you mouth. gtfo troll. that site is a joke, just like you.
go find something else to do if you have nothing useful to add to MY topic
You can be as emotional as you like about how horrible OnePlus is but you can only speak from your own experience. So let me tell you my own experience. I have a OnePlus 2 and 3. I had my 2 repaired last week because the home button stopped working. I asked for service through their website and I got a shipping label to ship it to a US address. My device also also had a cracked LCD which I figured they probably wouldn't replace. The turn around time from me shipping the device to getting it back was 5 days. Instead of fixing the device, I received a new phone. So as you can see, your evidence is anecdotal and definitely does not represent everyone else's experience.
Or do buy online but use a credit card which has good customer service and extended warranty support, such that if the manufacturer denies your claim you make a claim to your credit card company for repair or replacement cost.
ROOTDOT said:
'check their website' ??? they can say anything they want on their website....it is useless
i wanna check an official paper but i did not get anything when i bought the phone, not warranty papers & not even an invoice
Can anyone show us an official WARRANTY paper from OnePlus for a phone bought from their website?
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A website is a proof you can use to apply your rights, when it comes from the official brand website. Just wake up please.
They don't need to send you a piece of sheet to give you a warranty. The package contains what you bought and a paper attesting you bought it online, the price, etc.
You DON'T need anything else than a proof of purchase to make the warranty work, as your rights are written in black on white on their website. And even if their website claimed something else, if they sell a product to a country, they MUST respect the rules.
Please, stop acting like an idiot claiming something nobody has as it's just useless.
Also note that while the phone itself may be manufactured in China (same as the iPhone by Apple and Nexus 6P and tons of other great phones) it often does not ship from China (for USA purchases it ships from USA warehouses)
MiMilz said:
A website is a proof you can use to apply your rights, when it comes from the official brand website.
They don't need to send you a piece of sheet to give you a warranty. The package contains what you bought and a paper attesting you bought it online, the price, etc. You DON'T need anything else than a proof of purchase to make the warranty work, as your rights are written in black on white on their website.
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LOOOOL !!! Clearly you are the IDIOT !
For every electronic you buy you gotta have a separate WARRANTY official paper which OnePlus does NOT provide!
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Also note that while the phone itself may be manufactured in China (same as the iPhone by Apple and Nexus 6P and tons of other great phones) it often does not ship from China (for USA purchases it ships from USA warehouses)
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It is part of a SCAM! All they have in EU and USA are deposits, probably in a chinese restaurant
Chinese companies try to dodge TAXES in EU https://www.theguardian.com/busines...k-reviews-chinese-traders-ahead-vat-clampdown
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LOOOOL !!! Clearly you are the IDIOT !
For every electronic you buy you gotta have a separate WARRANTY official paper
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Think what you want, but come in Belgium and you will cry when you won't get your precious paper.
There is at least 8 years shops never give a warranty paper. Every shop tells you NEED to keep the ticket as a proof of purchase and use it for the warranty.
Nobody complains about this system, only one paper instead of two and you just go to the store with your ticket to make the warranty works. Welcome to the new reality.
I say this, but think what you want, I don't care. Just don't make you seem like a fool when you're the one who's wrong.