Release date? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know preorders start on the 29th but does anyone know when the phone is set to release?

Alaris said:
I know preorders start on the 29th but does anyone know when the phone is set to release?
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IIRC it's the 12th.

Bjray said:
IIRC it's the 12th.
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What's IIRC?

Alaris said:
What's IIRC?
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IIRC - If I Recall Correctly

Lol OK thanks for the info

ASAP! The sooner the better!

I think that's what'll end up hurting the most..... that long wait from the 29th to the 12th... that is IF they even actually start to ship out right away on the 12th, or if we'll have another debacle like the Nexus 5 launch, where it's like the ordering process was basically a pre-order and you still had to wait 2+ weeks to actually get the phone.

elementaldragon said:
I think that's what'll end up hurting the most..... that long wait from the 29th to the 12th... that is IF they even actually start to ship out right away on the 12th, or if we'll have another debacle like the Nexus 5 launch, where it's like the ordering process was basically a pre-order and you still had to wait 2+ weeks to actually get the phone.
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November 12th is the T-Mobile release of the device. That said the N6 could release on Google Play a little sooner than that. Its not hard to imagine really.
I feel bad more for people in other countries that might have to wait MUCH longer than us to get their hands on a N6.

Yeah I would imagine it releasing a couple of days sooner on google play. A lot of the cases for it on amazon have release dates towards the end of November so I wouldn't be surprised if it released around the 12th.

I hope it releases on AT&T the same day as google play

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[Official] Play Store orders & shipping thread!

Updated Dec 6 1:30AM EST
Below is specific only to the orders from the first day the Nexus 4 was live.
Limbo 1 order fulfillment: ~99%
Limbo 2 order fulfillment: ~99%
Limbo 3 order fulfillment: ~91% (the majority of orders fall into this category)
"fulfillment" = shipped
Above is my educated guess on the status of the shipments that have been going out. I'm constantly tracking this and several other sources for continuing information.
Current status of orders and shipments:
Points below are confirmed:
First major batch shipped Nov 19 (upgraded to Next Day Air).
All orders that took place on the 13th that were back-ordered will be upgraded to Next Day Air for free.
Play Store Customer Service do not have any relevant information about your order. Calling them is nothing short of a complete waste of time.
Orders have not been shipped on a first-come first-serve basis. There is no pattern to the shipments, it is seemingly random. We have indisputable evidence of this.
Addendum to above: It is believed that we are finally going in order. Some of the later orders were shipped first due to an incomplete manifest.
Many people have noticed the last updated date on the Play orders page has changed. No one is certain yet what this might mean.
Points below are likely:
Logistics have been outsourced to UPS.
Order mechanics "slid" during the initial rush of the first few minutes of the product going live. This caused several issues (including an incomplete manifest sent to UPS).
Status of your order (limbos):
1) Order placed. No e-mail of any kind (including order confirmation) received.
2) Order placed. Order confirmation received. No other e-mail of any kind received.
3) Order placed. Order confirmation received. Back-order e-mail received.
If you want to see the "levels" post that everyone is talking about, you can find that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34283797#post34283797
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I made a small G+ post here, in an attempt to get more information:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/114261440449469571809/posts/bwnLP4C4vJA
Please +1 and reshare it if you have a moment.
A petition (over 1000+ signatures at this point in time!)-- if you have a moment, please sign it:
https://www.change.org/petitions/go...onse-on-the-nexus-4-shipping-backorder-fiasco
A letter template drafted up by member thekooliest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34369253#post34369253
Tentative US order time: 09:00AM PST
Changed "confirmed" to "tentative". 09:00AM PST is most likely, but you should be watching out regardless.
These are some of my favorite threads here! We all heard that the Nexus 4 is now official but I'd wager that a lot of us are waiting for preorders to open up on the Play Store.
Post the usual "I ordered!" "It shipped!" etc. here! I, personally, cannot wait for this guy. Just sold my S3 for it.
I did call Google to ask if they were going to open pre-orders for the device. Doesn't look like it this time around, but I was told that you will be able to purchase on November 13th and that stock would start shipping "either on the 13th or the 17th," whatever that means.
Current information (as of Nov 12):
No one knows what time the purchase will go live.
Best guesses are sometime in the morning of the 13th (office hours), or at 00:00 PST. I'm personally leaning toward the former. (NEW: see below)
There will be no pre-order on the Play Store.
Check here for specific country availability.
Check here for more information on shipping and handling for your country.
A Virtual Credit Card (VCC) cannot be used with your purchase in the device store. Also, at this time, the country of your credit card must match the the country to which you're shipping.
Taxable charges, if any, depend on what state you're ordering from.
We do not know what shipping options will be available. Right now, only 2-day shipping is confirmed. We are hopeful for an overnight option at launch.
News added Nov 10:
Android Police got a little clarification from Google-- the rep said pretty much exactly what we've been assuming for the past couple of weeks. They also agree with me that the button will be more likely to go live in the morning sometime, rather than at midnight. See source here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/1...-shipments-start-november-13th-no-pre-orders/
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A German Google employee has revealed that the Nexus 4 should be selling at "around breakfast time" in Germany. He also mentioned that would be about 8-9AM. This would lead us to believe that the order form will go live at 0:00PST as originally anticipated. Germany is 9 hours ahead of Pacific Standard Time-- aka, 2AM Central, 3AM EST.[/url]
im guessing on nov 13th but they really didnt say.
From the Play Store:
Coming soon!
Available for purchase on Tuesday, Nov. 13th
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It seems pretty clear to me.
bozzykid said:
From the Play Store:
It seems pretty clear to me.
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They've had stuff up for pre-order before announced retail dates for most of the devices so far.
Plexicle said:
They've had stuff up for pre-order before announced retail dates for most of the devices so far.
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Sure. But the Play Store says you can purchase it on the 13th.
I would imagine that means a direct purchase. It doesnt mention when pre-orders will start. I for one will definitely be pre-ordering (if possible) this phone. Just hope I can get around £160 for my HTC Desire HD with lots of cases and accessories included
hello guys , i am from montenegro.
i am from one of those countries in which Google Store isnt available in yet...
so if you guys can pls help me , i wanted to ask you :
what other options do i have for buying it (besides ebay)
thank you
Will sell my S3 for it
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Will sell my S3 for it
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Just shipped mine off! I was hoping to be able to mostly cover the N4 with what I got back from it. Turns out that I actually made money in the trade.
Very excited!! :laugh:
I may sell my sgs3 for this. But I want to hold it first, I'm still on the fence.
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Just shipped mine off! I was hoping to be able to mostly cover the N4 with what I got back from it. Turns out that I actually made money in the trade.
Very excited!! :laugh:
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What are you using as a replacement phone until the Nexus 4 arrives? All I have available is an old Blackberry..
Tibbz96 said:
What are you using as a replacement phone until the Nexus 4 arrives? All I have available is an old Blackberry..
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My trusty Atrix 4G.
It served as my go-between phone when I went from Note to S3, too. Got a clean CM10 on it, runs like a charm.
Sorry that you're stuck with a Berry, haha. :angel:
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My trusty Atrix 4G.
It served as my go-between phone when I went from Note to S3, too. Got a clean CM10 on it, runs like a charm.
Sorry that you're stuck with a Berry, haha. :angel:
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My Inc S broke a month ago, I have been stuck with a £10 Nokia dumbphone waiting for this phone! It can't come soon enough...
Hoping we can preorder before the 13th
ste1164 said:
Hoping we can preorder before the 13th
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+1 I want to be first in line
I'll most definitely be getting one of these. The price is good, it looks good, and I really dig the wireless charging. I've many times where I'd just put my phone on my desk, forgot to connect the charger, and fall asleep just to wake up with a (mostly) depleted battery. Finally a worthy replacement for my ageing Nexus one.
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I'll most definitely be getting one of these. The price is good, it looks good, and I really dig the wireless charging. I've many times where I'd just put my phone on my desk, forgot to connect the charger, and fall asleep just to wake up with a (mostly) depleted battery. Finally a worthy replacement for my ageing Nexus one.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the wireless dock is not available for quite a while.
Here's to hoping they do same day delivery this time around which may explain no pre order date...
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Plexicle said:
Just shipped mine off! I was hoping to be able to mostly cover the N4 with what I got back from it. Turns out that I actually made money in the trade.
Very excited!! :laugh:
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Yeah! I'm sellin my S2 on craigslist(so many scammers ) Some guy from new york just offered me $280 (I was asking $250)
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Plexicle said:
My trusty Atrix 4G.
It served as my go-between phone when I went from Note to S3, too. Got a clean CM10 on it, runs like a charm.
Sorry that you're stuck with a Berry, haha. :angel:
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I might have to go back to my trusty captivate lol
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I wouldn't be surprised if the wireless dock is not available for quite a while.
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It's not too big of a concern. The wireless charging is a more of a luxury than anything. The most important thing is the option is available; the aftermarket solutions either adds thickness or look just plain ugly.
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N4 Tuesday (Nov 20th)

I noticed that many people, including myself, will be receiving their N4 on tuesday november 20th.
I have a feeling this wave of N4s may be the second batch (both Tmo and Playstore shipments).
So when we all get our "Tuesday N4", be sure to post up any and all issues or non-issues that differ from the current Nexus 4 owners thus far.
Plus show your excitement! :victory:
"What to Look for List" is in first comment
To clear up some confusion:
This pertains to those who had ordered their Nexus 4 either after sold out (this can be accomplished for people on Tmo through the phone or online)
and had gotten the BACKORDER email. And to those that mysteriously got "pre-ordered" or drastically delayed from play store. etc etc etc
So this thread is for the people who are scheduled to receive it on monday/tuesday
Here are some issues that we need to look for:
Yes/No - Screen Yellowing
Yes/No - Rattling
Yes/No - High Pitch or Static noise coming from handset
Yes/No - Random Reboots
Yes/No - Squeaky Power Button
Yes/No - Wobbly Volume Rocker
Yes/No - Low Touchscreen Sensitivity (on super light taps)
Yes/No -
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Common Issues that are not flaws
- Really hot. Because Glass
- Change in color temperature at different viewing angles. Because IPS
Post up other common issues that I should add to the "look for" list
Robert_W said:
I noticed that many people, including myself, will be receiving their N4 on tuesday november 20th.
I have a feeling this wave of N4s are the second batch (both Tmo and Playstore shipments).
So when we all get our "Tuesday N4", be sure to post up any and all issues or non-issues that differ from the current Nexus 4 owners thus far.
Plus show your excitement! :victory:
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So is this batch for those who got the shaft? These aren't for new buyers right?
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I'm getting mine tomorrow
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So is this batch for those who got the shaft?
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Kinda. Those who did not get the first shipment. Aka we didnt make it in before it got sold out. or we ordered on tmobile phone/web and was backordered and soon after got tracking numbers
I'm getting mine tomorrow
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monday people should be included in here as well. i just labeled it N4 Tuesday since Ive seen the majority of people stating they will receive on that day
can someone help me understand this..
Since last november 13th, everyone was saying that for people who got BO and people who couldnt buy it, they will be able to buy it in 3 weeks (next batch).
Now how is this possible? You are saying that on tuesday Google Play will be selling nexus 4 (i.e 2nd batch?
If it is true, i will be most happyiest person. :victory:
I recall reading a post on this forum that someone called the CSR (what's new, eh) and the CSR told him that they are actually working on prioritizing the orders (i.e People who bought multiple phones won't get all that they ordered immediately) to ensure that others who were more modest in their orders get theirs as well. This is why they said that the shipment would take up to 3 weeks cos they need to sift through every order. However, I'm still quite unclear with the definition of 1st and 2nd batch. I would prefer to think that the 2nd batch is just part of the 1st and is part of the newly sorted orders they've worked out over the weekend.
Picking up mine tomorrow morning.
I have a feeling that this is all gonna be part of the first batch still since they are still trying to get orders out from the initial sale, and that when Google sells the Nexus again on their site then THAT will be the second batch.
I just canceled my order earlier today. I'm going to err on the side of patience just let everyone else iron out all the kinks. Maybe treat myself to an on time Christmas present as opposed to my originally planned early one.
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I'm getting mine tomorrow evening
Mine is scheduled to arrive tomorrow evening. This should all be the same batch, just poor logistics on Google's part.
so just to be clear, people who couldnt order on november 13th, can order on tuesday nov 20th.
Also, when do they get rid of re-stocking fee (15%)?
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so just to be clear, people who couldnt order on november 13th, can order on tuesday nov 20th.
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I believe he is talking about people who already ordered receiving theirs on the 20th.
This pertains to those who had ordered their Nexus 4 either after sold out (this can be accomplished for people on Tmo through the phone or online) and had gotten the BACKORDER email. And to those that mysteriously got "pre-ordered" or drastically delayed from play store.
**So this thread is for the people who are scheduled to receive it on monday/tuesday
Now from what I heard, Tmobile will have more between the 20th and the 22nd. And I heard (rumor) that the play store will have the next batch between the same dates
mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow late afternoon. if i choose to do will call (pick up UPS facility), UPS site says it won't be ready until Tuesday, 11/20.
wtf...?
Where ate you getting these rumors from? If they are only rumors then why shows them? Rumors are what caused me to stay up all night for a midnight release on the 13th..
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Rumors are what caused me to stay up all night for a midnight release on the 13th.
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I am sorry for your loss of sleep good sir. As most people say, the longer you wait the better off you are, so all the bugs and issues get sorted out and revieled
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Where ate you getting these rumors from?
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I heard about the tmobile in store release dates from the store manager in a NY location near me.
The play store availability one I heard somewhere online. That is why I made sure i wrote "(rumor)" next to it
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mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow late afternoon. if i choose to do will call (pick up UPS facility), UPS site says it won't be ready until Tuesday, 11/20.
wtf...?
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That is weird! better to just let it be delivered i guess
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That is weird! better to just let it be delivered i guess
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You can go pick up the same day. They won't attempt to deliver so the package will be at the dist. center.

I spoke with someone in the know about the Note 4 release date

I can't give out any details since I don't want to get anyone in trouble but basically I spoke with someone I know who is connected to Samsung and they game me some info, but it's pretty vague. They said that samsung experience shops will begin to put up new ads for the Note 4 during the last week of the month and that the shops will be getting floor models of the Note 4 during that time. The person also said that the release date will be in the first week of October, possibly October 3rd. I also heard another person say something about the Note 4 being release early, as In the last few days of September but that doesn't seem likely since Samsung themselves said October. I am assuming they got the release date confused with the day that they will be sending out floor models but who knows. (EDIT: just read this article on gottabemobile that references a September 26th early release, still skeptical they would release in September after saying October though. http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/09/17/samsung-galaxy-note-4-release-date-could-be-close/) All 5 of the US Note 4 carrier variants have cleared through the FFC so it's coming, soon....ish. Take the above with the typical dose of salt.
Thanks for the info. Did your source happen to mention when the Galaxy Note Edge will release ?
I'll continue to take with spoon full of salt until something more concrete is released. Seen too many of these types of posts over the years on XDA.
I wonder if this would apply to Canadians as well? It looks like past Note's released at the same time in Canada and the USA if I read correctly. I can handle a little over two weeks until launch. I'll set myself up for that and if the info is wrong it shouldn't be much longer after that.
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Thanks for the info. Did your source happen to mention when the Galaxy Note Edge will release ?
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No specifics but my source implied it might not be available at launch according to what he has been told by Samsung.
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I'll continue to take with spoon full of salt until something more concrete is released. Seen too many of these types of posts over the years on XDA.
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Fair enough, I don't blame you. Most of the rumors about the Note 4 were dead wrong. Samsung is VERY good about keeping info secret.
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I wonder if this would apply to Canadians as well? It looks like past Note's released at the same time in Canada and the USA if I read correctly. I can handle a little over two weeks until launch. I'll set myself up for that and if the info is wrong it shouldn't be much longer after that.
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No idea, my source did not mention anything about Canada so I wont speculate. I am skeptical about the early release dates(Sept 26-28th) that are now being rumored but I sure hope Im wrong. I think Samsung might be finally realizing their mistake after seeing Apples success with the iPhone 6+ preorders.
http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/17/early-note-4-sales
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http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/17/early-note-4-sales
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Saw that a few hours ago, maybe my second source was not mistaken after all. If that's true I can't wait. Guess we will find out shortly.
Thanks 2ndammendment.
Any info on Developer Edition?
[Any chance your source has info on a Developer Edition Note 4 (Like the Developer Edition Note 3)? I missed the window on the Note 3 version and want an unlocked bootloader version for Verizon. Thanks.
I tweated Samsung india and they replied, it will be launched soon...but gave no date
Well. It seems everyone was wrong. Pre-orders tomorrow for the US and won't be available until October 17th. Whew..Talk about a botched up launch. At least we know officially tho..
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Well. It seems everyone was wrong. Pre-orders tomorrow for the US and won't be available until October 17th. Whew..Talk about a botched up launch. At least we know officially tho..
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Where did you get this information from?
apprentice said:
Where did you get this information from?
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It's everywhere now. Android central, Android authority, etc etc
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It's everywhere now. Android central, Android authority, etc etc
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Yup. 10/17. Samsung, it seems, has official confirmed.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/18/samsung-galaxy-note-4-october-17/
http://samsungmobileuspress.com/201...r-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4;-Available-October-17
Wow I wonder why the experience shops are getting ready with new ads and such at the end of the month if they aren't going to be releasing it until Oct 17th. My source was telling me about how the work schedules were being set for maximum coverage at the end of the month and very early October(I know he's not BSing me). Does not compute. Sorry guys, the info seemed legit enough to share.
Samsung seems to be surprising all of us, but in the worst possible way. What a terrible terrible launch. Releasing a product after 6 weeks from announcement is unacceptable. They got the Note 3 out even quicker than that and they didn't have the iPhone 6+ bearing down on them. Also, releasing a 32bit and 64bit version is so bizarre. Pick one and produce it like all the other manufactured do. Who ever comes up with this stuff needs to be fired pronto.
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Where did you get this information from?
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Its everywhere now since this morning. Go google it.
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Its everywhere now since this morning. Go google it.
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Thanks. But I read this post way before all the news suddenly broke about the release date!!!
Best of all we get it a week earlier in the UK!
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Well. It seems everyone was wrong. Pre-orders tomorrow for the US and won't be available until October 17th. Whew..Talk about a botched up launch. At least we know officially tho..
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Verizon is quoting a few days after that:
Order Date: 09/19/2014
Ship By: 10/23/2014
No news on the Edge and a launch 6 weeks after announcement. Apple announces and launches their phablet within 3 weeks of Note 4 announcement. Note 4 ads ,giving no date or reason to buy ,launch on TV.
This is why Samsung sales continously slip. They forget they got to this point by magnificent advertising and hammering iPhones and its fanboys. Now they're too busy patting themselves on the back and acting like everyone is willing to wait it our for their phone.
Its hard getting to the top, but it's harder to STAY there...

Moto Site Release Date?

Has anyone heard any rumors as to when Moto will sell the Nexus 6 through their site? I would love to use my moto credit and take advantage of no interest financing. Thanks!
I would like to know the same thing. I was sort of expecting the Play Store and Motorola to both do the pre-ordering today. I really can't afford to drop $650.00 all at once, so I wanted to use Motorolas financing like you said. There is nothing indicating any pre-sale or release date.
Ditto I'd like to know. Hopefully we'll know something by this wknd
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/10/29/...loveTechnologysBlog+(Clove+Technology's+Blog)
I wonder what is going on I mean even the N5 was up for a few hours on its first pre-order day.
That link is for the UK. It doesn't mean it is the same for the US
I really hope they let more than a handful of people get the device before the holidays. Let's see what happens next. Had anyone see heard about t mobile removing their release date of November 12?
I heard this rumor today, but I'm not sure if it's true. I really hope T-mobile will sell it on November 12th. I'm jealous of the few people who were able to pre-order the Nexus 6 from Google. So, if T-Mobile has it on the 12th, I can get the last laugh because the pre-sale devices won't be shipped until the 21st.
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I really hope they let more than a handful of people get the device before the holidays. Let's see what happens next. Had anyone see heard about t mobile removing their release date of November 12?
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I tweeted @ them and they told me Nov 12 was the release date.
https://twitter.com/TMobileHelp/status/527910665957433345
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I tweeted @ them and they told me Nov 12 was the release date.
https://twitter.com/TMobileHelp/status/527910665957433345
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I'm still wondering if the increased demand has made them change their mind about carrying the 64gb model in store.
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I'm still wondering if the increased demand has made them change their mind about carrying the 64gb model in store.
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They never said they are carrying the 64gb in store
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I heard this rumor today, but I'm not sure if it's true. I really hope T-mobile will sell it on November 12th. I'm jealous of the few people who were able to pre-order the Nexus 6 from Google. So, if T-Mobile has it on the 12th, I can get the last laugh because the pre-sale devices won't be shipped until the 21st.
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The 21st is a place holder. It will be shipped well before that. The purchase is pending on our cards. Most banks don't allow pending for more than 5 days without being canceled. So expect to see shipment posts in the next few days. Most likely the 3rd with the N9. It's not like they have a bunch to ship out anyway.
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I know it's online only but if there is enough demand for it they could change their mind.
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I know it's online only but if there is enough demand for it they could change their mind.
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They don't even carry 32/64GB iPhone's in store normally...
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I heard this rumor today, but I'm not sure if it's true. I really hope T-mobile will sell it on November 12th. I'm jealous of the few people who were able to pre-order the Nexus 6 from Google. So, if T-Mobile has it on the 12th, I can get the last laugh because the pre-sale devices won't be shipped until the 21st.
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As others have said it's most likely going to ship sooner than the 21st...keep in mind unless you have a T-Mobile Account most stores will not sell you a device outright.

Wonder when preorders will ship?

Just curious if there have been any hints about when the preorders might ship from Google?
Do you have an guesses?
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Just curious if there have been any hints about when the preorders might ship from Google?
Do you have an guesses?
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the receipts that people have been getting say 11/21 or 11/26 as the ship date. No reason to really doubt that currently
My order from today says it leaves the warehouse on the 21st. I don't really expect it to ship any sooner than that, though I'd certainly be pleasantly surprised if it did.
Orders show 21/26 of Nov. It's not uncommon for them to ship early but my Nexus Player has been showing the 14th since the day I put the order in and that hasn't budged yet. I have overnight shipping on both so we'll see what happens. Hopefully the both go out a week or so early. Would love to have them in hand before the 12th when I could just walk into my TMO store and grab one.
Like ALL Play Store devices I've bought on the store day 1, it will ship earlier. I'm honestly expecting the people that preordered last week to get shipping labels by end of Friday at the very latest.
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Like ALL Play Store devices I've bought on the store day 1, it will ship earlier. I'm honestly expecting the people that preordered last week to get shipping labels by end of Friday at the very latest.
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I hope you're right. I ordered last week.
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Like ALL Play Store devices I've bought on the store day 1, it will ship earlier. I'm honestly expecting the people that preordered last week to get shipping labels by end of Friday at the very latest.
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You'll get it before t mobile for sure.
Ordered 2 today. The white N6 ships by 11/21. The blue N6 ships 11/26
Nexus 6 in Europe
Hi All
Does anyone out there have any idea as to when the Nexus 6 will be available in Europe and if the carriers will be selling them too? I am curious as I have heard that it could possibly be as late as End of December which means that for Europe it will be classed as a 2015 device.
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Hi All
Does anyone out there have any idea as to when the Nexus 6 will be available in Europe and if the carriers will be selling them too? I am curious as I have heard that it could possibly be as late as End of December which means that for Europe it will be classed as a 2015 device.
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Most sites are speculating preorder will be up on late December for Google Play store. For carrier store on the other hand, it wouldn't be available until Spring 2015 at the earliest. Google Play store preorder is only for US, but maybe the motorola store will ship internationally.
Personally, I doubt it is late December, because rarely do consumer products release near Christmas

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