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I'm on Verizon and I have an upgrade in a few weeks. I am between either the Motorola Droid Turbo or the HTC One M8. It seems like they both have their issues, making it hard for me to choose one. Here are my main concerns:
How does the phone feel while using it?
Does the ballistic nylon version have problems? I read the back of the phone can become screwed up.
Is the sound quality bad when using headphones? And are the speakers bad?
How is call quality? Does this phone have a good microphone?
How is the display? Are the colors bad?
How is the camera?
Can this phone be unlocked or rooted or is there at least a chance of it in the future?
I'd appreciate answers to these questions. Thank you.
joshua.b said:
I'm on Verizon and I have an upgrade in a few weeks. I am between either the Motorola Droid Turbo or the HTC One M8. It seems like they both have their issues, making it hard for me to choose one. Here are my main concerns:
How does the phone feel while using it?
Does the ballistic nylon version have problems? I read the back of the phone can become screwed up.
Is the sound quality bad when using headphones? And are the speakers bad?
How is call quality? Does this phone have a good microphone?
How is the display? Are the colors bad?
How is the camera?
Can this phone be unlocked or rooted or is there at least a chance of it in the future?
I'd appreciate answers to these questions. Thank you.
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1. phone feels great. Solidly built, buttons are nice and responsive. I use an Otterbox Commuter case but you don't really need to
2. No idea about the nylon, people said they really like it, i just prefer the kevlar
3. Sound quality and speakers are awesome; very loud. Sound quality is more based on the equalizer and app you're using when using headphones(for example, poweramp sounds 1000x better than using any other app, but its due to the equalizers and settings they have)
4. call quality is great. Microphone works perfectly fine. I havent had any issues and my house has a ****ty signal
5. Display is awesome. Colors are bright and vibrant. this whole nits being lower thing is garbage. I cam from an s3 which has higher nits than this, and this phones blows it out of the water.
6. Camera is decent. I don't use it that often but so far the pictures I have taken come out really nice. Some people say the shutter speed is slow, but they likely have HDR set to on or auto, so of course the shutter will be slower
7. Rooted/unlocked not as of right now, but it's been out for what, 3 weeks? Give it time and it will definitely be rooted/unlocked. There's already a bounty going out. You really don't need an unlocked bootloader but root would be ideal. All verizon and moto apps can be disabled giving you a stock android experience. I want root for gravity box but despite being an avid rooter/flasher, I see no reason to flash a new ROM.
Great phone...Noway I would get HTC ..Sounds like possibility of root just got better today...
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Best phone I've ever had... A lot better than lg g2..
Every single one of those questions is summed up in almost every single review that has been released, and won't be answered by people that just dropped coin on this phone that are in their honeymoon phase with it.
http://bit.ly/1yY9KKJ
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Every single one of those questions is summed up in almost every single review that has been released, and won't be answered by people that just dropped coin on this phone that are in their honeymoon phase with it.]
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honeymoon phase? True
Actually, I don't think the camera is that great. Try to take a photo of a piece of paper with nothing but text on it. The text in the photo will not be straight but curves.
Of course my camera of choice is a Canon EOS 60D DSLR.
Here is an example of what I am talking about:
The first yellow line shows that line of text almost straight. I can blame that on not keeping the camera perfectly level. While the second yellow line shows that line of text to be off by quite a bit. It gets worse the more text there is in the photo.
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Every single one of those questions is summed up in almost every single review that has been released, and won't be answered by people that just dropped coin on this phone that are in their honeymoon phase with it.
http://bit.ly/1yY9KKJ
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This answer helps nobody. Are you aware that many people arrive here via a google search? I also think people are smart enough to understand that comments in a device specific forum will be somewhat biased towards that device.
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This answer helps nobody. Are you aware that many people arrive here via a google search? I also think people are smart enough to understand that comments in a device specific forum will be somewhat biased towards that device.
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Yeah, and I have read reviews, but I posted this thread here to get a bigger range of opinions rather than judging certain aspects of the phone through a few reviews. Sometimes in a review there'll be a complaint that many others have not experienced or they may have exaggerated, or user error, etc. I want to take my purchase on the safe side.
Anyways, I'm deciding on the Turbo. Thanks to all who replied; I appreciate the responses.
I love my Droid Turbo. No issues at all
I came from an S3 too. I can say there may be a few Samsung tweaks that you'll miss. Sometimes Samsung goes overboard, but they also ADD features and options that stock Android doesn't have. But other than that and one bug that's driving me crazy, this is one amazingly awesome phone. I've been eligible for an upgrade for several months and was just waiting for the right phone. My main desires were all answered in the Droid Turbo: Fast Processor, at least 3GB RAM, battery that would last all day even with heavy usage, and a screen size that was large enough but not ridiculously big.
I have not been disappointed.
Go Turbo Go !
I went from a Razr M to a HTC One M8, to the Droid Turbo.
The ergo of the HTC is out of this world, for a large phone, one handed use was not really an issue. The Dot View case, gimmicky but it did work and it was nice to able to do some functions with it closed.
Call quality has been fine, signal is better than the M8 was, I didn't have 4g in my hobby room with it, I do with the Turbo.
Everything else has been echoed in this post. Remember, you have 14 days to take it back and yes, you'll have to eat the 35 bucks. Take it for a spin, I think you'll be surprised in a good way !
I went from the Galaxy Nexus to the Turbo with 64 gb of storage. EVERYTHING is much better on the Turbo, except two things: Screen Mirroring is terrible on the Turbo and no WiFI Hotspot without paying Verizon for double-dipping. If these two items are VERY important to you don't buy the Turbo.
Is it true that the ballistic nylon will start to fray eventually? I'm thinking of getting the kevlar backing because of that.
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Is it true that the ballistic nylon will start to fray eventually? I'm thinking of getting the kevlar backing because of that.
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Don't see why that would be the case, in my opinion the Ballistic back with the raised metallic Droid emblem without the Verizon badging is far more stylish and unique.
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Don't see why that would be the case, in my opinion the Ballistic back with the raised metallic Droid emblem without the Verizon badging is far more stylish and unique.
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Yeah, I'd definitely go for it if I hadn't heard of the nylon fraying for some. Plus the extra 32gb for $50 is a good deal.
Without a case I believe it will fray for sure in time, because it doesn't slide easy, but it also might keep you from dropping it or sliding out of a pocket...with a case is a moot point. the 64 gb is COOL. I didn't buy the Samsung 5 because 16 gb is not cool.
I'll just add my experience that the ballistic nylon version was way too slippery for me. I felt like I'd drop it all the time. I exchanged it for a black kevlar version and it's quite a bit grippier. I don't use a case so that may matter less to those who do.
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64 gb is COOL.
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It is cool, isn't it.
smokie11 said:
I went from the Galaxy Nexus to the Turbo with 64 gb of storage. EVERYTHING is much better on the Turbo, except two things: Screen Mirroring is terrible on the Turbo and no WiFI Hotspot without paying Verizon for double-dipping. If these two items are VERY important to you don't buy the Turbo.
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Screen mirroring working 100% fine here via Chromecast. And you can't complain about the WiFi hotspot feature being an issue specific to the Turbo, that affects every single phone launched to date. It is against the terms of service of your contract to use a third party workaround or a root method to enable tethering. Not saying I haven't done it, not saying you will get caught or have any trouble, just that your contract explicitly states that it isn't allowed.
All of Verizon's plans for the last year or so have allowed tethering for no additional charge, and if you are stuck on an old legacy plan then it's your own fault for refusing to migrate to something more modern.
I resolved the screen mirroring, is no longer a problem, it required using Chromecast, it worked rather badly before I installed it. In regards to Hotspot if you want to pay for it buy the Turbo, if you don't; buy a Samsung phone. Good luck with your decision.
Just wanted some opinions about going to a N6 from a G3. I like to get fast updates and the larger amoled screen is enticing. I previously had a Note 3 and miss the amoled display.
Anyone coming from a G3 have any issues with the Nexus 6.
On Verizon.
my wife currently has a G3 and i feel that the N6 blows it away in every aspect except camera features (pictures can look better with the N6, but the performance is better with the G3 IMO). her G3 now feels tiny in my hands.
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Just wanted some opinions about going to a N6 from a G3. I like to get fast updates and the larger amoled screen is enticing. I previously had a Note 3 and miss the amoled display.
Anyone coming from a G3 have any issues with the Nexus 6.
On Verizon.
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I used the g3 for along time its a great device. I bought a nexus 6 from swappa a few days ago. I ordered a nano sim thinking i could activate it on my old htc one max. I took my nano to micro sim adapter and put it in my onemax then i called verizon to activate it, since the max was a verizon device i didnt think there would be a problem, come to find out the rep said that the onemax wasnt compatible with a nano sim so she couldnt activate the sim card. Verizon will not activate a nexus 6! So instead i started filing down the sides of the micro sim being cautious as not to file the metal on the sim. I trimmed it perfect I had my doubts as to whether it would work or not. After I trimmed the micro sim I stuck it into my nexus 6 and turned it on, and bam baby its working.... im having absolutely no problems. Oh the same sim that I filed down also still works in my G3. So if I need to call Verizon I can just switch them out. If you are considering getting a nexus 6 I promise you will like it! Thats it. Hopefully if you get one,you won't have to trim you're sim card, if you do its not hard at all just be cautious.
Check out my bench mark test...that's what I'm talkn bout, that's the nexus 6 that says not verified
I am glad to hear the positive remarks so far. I have cut down sims by hand a couple of times with no problems.
How would you rate the screen? I have not seen one in person. I had the Nexus 4 which I liked but the memory went bad and now I can not write to the memory.
How does the camera work in low light?
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Check out my bench mark test...that's what I'm talkn bout, that's the nexus 6 that says not verified
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Nice bench! My G3 gets 40186 on it. And I thought the G3 was fast when running Lollipop (Liquid Smooth ROM)!
So the N6 comes out on the 26 of this month. Very tempting...
Anyone hear of the next nexus yet. Ran out of numbers now!
johnciaccio said:
Just wanted some opinions about going to a N6 from a G3. I like to get fast updates and the larger amoled screen is enticing. I previously had a Note 3 and miss the amoled display.
Anyone coming from a G3 have any issues with the Nexus 6.
On Verizon.
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I Had a G3 before I got my Nexus6 and I love love love the N6 over my old G3, when I 1st got my G3 I thought it was a huge phone and now it just feels little compared to this Beast!!! The screen looks so much better on the N6 I had them both set up to the same wallpaper and side by side the G3 screen looked so dim and un-colorful, it was an Easy Choice for me to move on, but on the down side the G3 camera is Great compared to the N6 Google camera that was my only issue
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Nice bench! My G3 gets 40186 on it. And I thought the G3 was fast when running Lollipop (Liquid Smooth ROM)!
So the N6 comes out on the 26 of this month. Very tempting...
Anyone hear of the next nexus yet. Ran out of numbers now!
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The nexus is freggin awesome! I will not own a device that's carrier branded if I can help it. Also every device iv owned has been rootable and the bootloader unlockable. I won't have it any other way. Pssst,get the Nexus 6 [emoji6]
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johnciaccio said:
Nice bench! My G3 gets 40186 on it. And I thought the G3 was fast when running Lollipop (Liquid Smooth ROM)!
So the N6 comes out on the 26 of this month. Very tempting...
Anyone hear of the next nexus yet. Ran out of numbers now!
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You live aboard?
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johnciaccio said:
I am glad to hear the positive remarks so far. I have cut down sims by hand a couple of times with no problems.
How would you rate the screen? I have not seen one in person. I had the Nexus 4 which I liked but the memory went bad and now I can not write to the memory.
How does the camera work in low light?
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The screen size is perfect its not to big or bulky. Also when outdoors you don't have to block the sun light with you're hand like with most devices, I don't have any problems at all seeing my screen outdoors, no glare or squinting. And the dual front facing speakers are awesome, the sound is crisp and the call quality is very clear. Iv only had my N6 for about 3 days and so far its been worth every penny.
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I ran a bench mark on my g3 earlier today and only scored 37726. I can't figure out why its reading so slow. Everyone else has scores over 40000....hmm
Spec wise, I'd actually call it a wash.
The G3 has a better screen (LCD means REAL 2560x1440, whereas our AMOLED is only 2560x1440 in the GREEN channel. R and B channels are only 2560x720).
LCD's are also better at accurately reproducing color.
5.5 is a bit more comfortable of a size compared to the full 6", but that is a matter of personal preference.
If you're comparing the 32GB G3 to the 32GB N6, RAM and storage SIZE are the same.
The SoC on the N6 is a lot better. The N6's SD805 has a MUCH wider memory bus. That translates into being a lot faster.
Finally, of course, the G3 has an sdcard slot.
The real advantage of the N6 is the fact that it is supported DIRECTLY by AOSP.
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Spec wise, I'd actually call it a wash.
The G3 has a better screen (LCD means REAL 2560x1440, whereas our AMOLED is only 2560x1440 in the GREEN channel. R and B channels are only 2560x720).
LCD's are also better at accurately reproducing color.
5.5 is a bit more comfortable of a size compared to the full 6", but that is a matter of personal preference.
If you're comparing the 32GB G3 to the 32GB N6, RAM and storage SIZE are the same.
The SoC on the N6 is a lot better. The N6's SD805 has a MUCH wider memory bus. That translates into being a lot faster.
Finally, of course, the G3 has an sdcard slot.
The real advantage of the N6 is the fact that it is supported DIRECTLY by AOSP.
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The screen part of ips vs amoled I'll agree with.
The screen size is subjective. After using the phone for a couple weeks you begin to appreciate the size much more. I didn't think I'd like 5.95 but I've gotten used to it and it's best thing to happen.
The one thing you forgot to mention is the fact that the nexus 6 also have dual front facing speakers which is a clear win for the nexus 6 if you do any media consumption. It's a no brainer that if a person consumes media, the nexus 6 is the way to go.
Oh yeah, nexus 6 is supported by qualcomm quick charging 2.0 which charges your battery faster. Another plus to the nexus.
Nexus devices are better in terms of development support as well so if you're into flashing custom roms and kernels, then nexus devices won't disappoint you in that department.
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doitright said:
Spec wise, I'd actually call it a wash.
The G3 has a better screen (LCD means REAL 2560x1440, whereas our AMOLED is only 2560x1440 in the GREEN channel. R and B channels are only 2560x720).
LCD's are also better at accurately reproducing color.
-True however I do kind of like the over saturated colors on amoled screens. Must be my kid side coming out!
5.5 is a bit more comfortable of a size compared to the full 6", but that is a matter of personal preference.
-True the G3 is very easy to keep in my pocket. Even the front pocket.
If you're comparing the 32GB G3 to the 32GB N6, RAM and storage SIZE are the same.
-Not much to say about that.
The SoC on the N6 is a lot better. The N6's SD805 has a MUCH wider memory bus. That translates into being a lot faster.
-That explains the large performance difference.
Finally, of course, the G3 has an sdcard slot.
-I find I have not used a sdcard at all since moving to 32 gigs.
The real advantage of the N6 is the fact that it is supported DIRECTLY by AOSP.
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-This is probably the biggest factor for me. I Like the G3 but I get tired of dealing with bugs with non-official builds. Not to say the developers are great on the G3 and maybe the bugs will completely disappear on 5.0 roms.
I really want to see the N6 in person I guess. I know it has been a while since Verizon has had a Nexus phone and wonder how the updates are going to work with Verizon. Who would I be getting them from and when? Will it have a locked bootloader?
I think I have to see what happens with it when people start getting them from Verizon.
How has the signal quality been with Verizon on the N6 compared to the g3?
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The one thing you forgot to mention is the fact that the nexus 6 also have dual front facing speakers which is a clear win for the nexus 6 if you do any media consumption. It's a no brainer that if a person consumes media, the nexus 6 is the way to go.
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That may be a fair point. Despite having two speakers though, they still suck.
Oh yeah, nexus 6 is supported by qualcomm quick charging 2.0 which charges your battery faster. Another plus to the nexus.
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I wouldn't really call that a big benefit. G3 does quick charge 1. The 2.0 difference really only operates VERY briefly when the battery level is EXTREMELY low. It also promises reduced battery lifespan. Given the size of the battery on the thing and the fact that most people need around 7 hours of sleep every night, slow charge really is the best thing.
Nexus devices are better in terms of development support as well so if you're into flashing custom roms and kernels, then nexus devices won't disappoint you in that department.
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I believe I said that...
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johnciaccio said:
-This is probably the biggest factor for me. I Like the G3 but I get tired of dealing with bugs with non-official builds. Not to say the developers are great on the G3 and maybe the bugs will completely disappear on 5.0 roms.
I really want to see the N6 in person I guess. I know it has been a while since Verizon has had a Nexus phone and wonder how the updates are going to work with Verizon. Who would I be getting them from and when? Will it have a locked bootloader?
I think I have to see what happens with it when people start getting them from Verizon.
How has the signal quality been with Verizon on the N6 compared to the g3?
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People are using N6 on Verizon already. You don't need to buy it from them -- buy it from google play store, drop in your verizon sim, and enjoy. Updates straight from Google.
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That may be a fair point. Despite having two speakers though, they still suck.
I wouldn't really call that a big benefit. G3 does quick charge 1. The 2.0 difference really only operates VERY briefly when the battery level is EXTREMELY low. It also promises reduced battery lifespan. Given the size of the battery on the thing and the fact that most people need around 7 hours of sleep every night, slow charge really is the best thing.
I believe I said that...
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People are using N6 on Verizon already. You don't need to buy it from them -- buy it from google play store, drop in your verizon sim, and enjoy. Updates straight from Google.
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How does having two speakers "suck?"
When HTC launched the One series with dual front facing speakers, that pretty much set up the meta. From this point onward, phones shouldn't even be releasing speakers that aren't on the front. Having one speaker to the top/bottom or left/right is pretty much the new meta.
It is a big benefit, if you're in need of a "quick charge." For example, you come home from work/school and only have 15-20 minutes to get changed and whatever before you have to head out again. If you have Quick Charge 2.0 then your phone will get massive amounts of battery life in that time period when compared to a device using Quick Charge 1.0. And I personally don't charge my phone over night, I leave it on the charger and when it's done charging i unplug it and then get ready to go to sleep. Nevertheless, qualcomm quick charge 2.0 is more futureproof over quick charge 1.0 and is far superior technology.
Not really you just broadly said its supported by AOSP. A device being supported by AOSP doesn't essentially mean you'll have great developer support in the long-run. Take a look at the Nexus tablet devices (e.g. Nexus 7 2013) not much traffic is made in those forums.
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How does having two speakers "suck?"
When HTC launched the One series with dual front facing speakers, that pretty much set up the meta. From this point onward, phones shouldn't even be releasing speakers that aren't on the front. Having one speaker to the top/bottom or left/right is pretty much the new meta.
It is a big benefit, if you're in need of a "quick charge." For example, you come home from work/school and only have 15-20 minutes to get changed and whatever before you have to head out again. If you have Quick Charge 2.0 then your phone will get massive amounts of battery life in that time period when compared to a device using Quick Charge 1.0. And I personally don't charge my phone over night, I leave it on the charger and when it's done charging i unplug it and then get ready to go to sleep. Nevertheless, qualcomm quick charge 2.0 is more futureproof over quick charge 1.0 and is far superior technology.
Not really you just broadly said its supported by AOSP. A device being supported by AOSP doesn't essentially mean you'll have great developer support in the long-run. Take a look at the Nexus tablet devices (e.g. Nexus 7 2013) not much traffic is made in those forums.
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Totally forgot about the speakers. This would be my first phone with speakers on the front so that is a plus!
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How does having two speakers "suck?"
When HTC launched the One series with dual front facing speakers, that pretty much set up the meta. From this point onward, phones shouldn't even be releasing speakers that aren't on the front. Having one speaker to the top/bottom or left/right is pretty much the new meta.
It is a big benefit, if you're in need of a "quick charge." For example, you come home from work/school and only have 15-20 minutes to get changed and whatever before you have to head out again. If you have Quick Charge 2.0 then your phone will get massive amounts of battery life in that time period when compared to a device using Quick Charge 1.0. And I personally don't charge my phone over night, I leave it on the charger and when it's done charging i unplug it and then get ready to go to sleep. Nevertheless, qualcomm quick charge 2.0 is more futureproof over quick charge 1.0 and is far superior technology.
Not really you just broadly said its supported by AOSP. A device being supported by AOSP doesn't essentially mean you'll have great developer support in the long-run. Take a look at the Nexus tablet devices (e.g. Nexus 7 2013) not much traffic is made in those forums.
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I think he just means the speakers aren't very good ones, regardless of being front facing. That said, I disagree. Best speakers I've had on a phone.
I disagree as well. Not as good as the m8, but they don't suck.
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Camera in low light with HDR+ on is really good and under appreciated. Surprised a lot of people don't talk about that because the pictures with no light look great . and the fact it will get updates fast is a win win in my book
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I didn't say that the speaker COUNT sucks, I said that the speaker QUALITY sucks.
1 crap speaker: crap sound.
2 crap speakers: stereo crap sound.
There's only so much you can do, when you build a speaker in the space of a pencil eraser. If you want good sound, you still need headphones.
It is a big benefit, if you're in need of a "quick charge." For example, you come home from work/school and only have 15-20 minutes to get changed and whatever before you have to head out again. If you have Quick Charge 2.0 then your phone will get massive amounts of battery life in that time period when compared to a device using Quick Charge 1.0. And I personally don't charge my phone over night, I leave it on the charger and when it's done charging i unplug it and then get ready to go to sleep. Nevertheless, qualcomm quick charge 2.0 is more futureproof over quick charge 1.0 and is far superior technology.
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The "technology" is the same. Its just a higher voltage. But like I mentioned, the battery has to be VERY low for the 12v to kick in, and then it only kicks in VERY BRIEFLY, then falls back to 9v.
If you are just getting home from work/school for a few moments, your battery will still be 60% or higher. IT WILL NOT SUPPLY 12 VOLTS!!!! To get that, it has to be nearly shutting off from being dead.
Not really you just broadly said its supported by AOSP. A device being supported by AOSP doesn't essentially mean you'll have great developer support in the long-run. Take a look at the Nexus tablet devices (e.g. Nexus 7 2013) not much traffic is made in those forums.
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"those forums" Just what "forums" are you talking about? XDA? And what "developers" are you talking about? The developers *I* am referring to are those who WORK FOR GOOGLE.
I.e., you DO NOT NEED kiddy developers like cyanogenmod to build AOSP for a device that is DIRECTLY SUPPORTED BY GOOGLE. You just need to follow the instructions: https://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html ** look: they've got build instructions all the way back to Nexus S. Google THEMSELVES provide full system builds as far back as Nexus 7/2012 <-- TWENTY-TWELVE.
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Best speakers I've had on a phone.
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That isn't saying much...
Well 2 speakers on the front is usually better then one on the back. At least it is stereo sound and facing the correct direction.
The good thing about aosp support is less bugs. Still waiting for some rather annoying bugs to be fixed on the G3.
Long story short, my current phone is 3 years old.. and It's becoming unreliable..
I was gonna get the 5X.. but seeing the specs of the 6 made the decision tough...
The Nexus 6 is a lot more bang for buck.... You're getting a huge screen, a metal frame, OIS, NO USB C crab, 3 GB RAM, Water resistance, better speaker.
A fingerprint scanner would have been great, but for the price of the 6, I can't justify even spending extra 50$ to get the 5X.
I'm not sure though about the performance difference between the two. SD805 and SD808 don't look that different spec wise.
I'm just worried about the size though. I'm coming from a tiny 4.3 inch screen (i9100).. and I know this phone is huge that some people actually complained about its big size..
Currently it's sold for about 350$ (32gb version) in a local retailer here... Is there any cheaper deals out there for a new one ?
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Long story short, my current phone is 3 years old.. and It's becoming unreliable..
I was gonna get the 5X.. but seeing the specs of the 6 made the decision tough...
The Nexus 6 is a lot more bang for buck.... You're getting a huge screen, a metal frame, OIS, NO USB C crab, 3 GB RAM, Water resistance, better speaker.
A fingerprint scanner would have been great, but for the price of the 6, I can't justify even spending extra 50$ to get the 5X.
I'm not sure though about the performance difference between the two. SD805 and SD808 don't look that different spec wise.
I'm just worried about the size though. I'm coming from a tiny 4.3 inch screen (i9100).. and I know this phone is huge that some people actually complained about its big size..
Currently it's sold for about 350$ (32gb version) in a local retailer here... Is there any cheaper deals out there for a new one ?
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You can find it on places like swappa for alot less.
The size does take a bit to get used to. Not to much though.
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You can find it on places like swappa for alot less.
The size does take a bit to get used to. Not to much though.
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Yea, It's a lot cheaper there...
XT1103 vs XT1100 !? Is there any difference beside the Bands ? They run the same rom/kernel, right ?
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...The Nexus 6 is a lot more bang for buck.... You're getting a huge screen, a metal frame, OIS, NO USB C crab, 3 GB RAM, Water resistance, better speaker....
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I gotta ask what your beef with type-c is. I can't wait to embrace it personally, it's gonna make life way easier.
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Yea, It's a lot cheaper there...
XT1103 vs XT1100 !? Is there any difference beside the Bands ? They run the same rom/kernel, right ?
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That depends on where you live. One is for the US and North America and the others is for the rest of the world. That depends on if you can connecto to 4g/3g where you are.
I got my not to long ago for 300. Not new but from a trusted source and cant be happier with it.
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I gotta ask what your beef with type-c is. I can't wait to embrace it personally, it's gonna make life way easier.
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Mostly because too many people that are making them are using subpar parts. The tech will take a few years to take hold. I am in the same boat. I am in no rush to change. Right now I have one cable for all my devices. I dont want to have to carry another cable around.
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I gotta ask what your beef with type-c is. I can't wait to embrace it personally, it's gonna make life way easier.
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Well, currently for me... An Old USB port is much better... I won't have to buy and carry adapters with me wherever I go... Maybe in 2 or 3 years when USB C become more mainstream, I'd sure buy a phone with a USB C. But now, NO !
And the fact that some of the adapters being sold on Amazon can be considered deadly for your device and can cause problems is another downside...
zelendel said:
That depends on where you live. One is for the US and North America and the others is for the rest of the world. That depends on if you can connecto to 4g/3g where you are.
I got my not to long ago for 300. Not new but from a trusted source and cant be happier with it.
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So, the only difference is the bands... Okay, I'm looking into swappa right now... If I can't find a good one.. I'll just buy a new one from local retailer here... 350$ with a 1 year warranty...
biascoblix said:
Long story short, my current phone is 3 years old.. and It's becoming unreliable..
I was gonna get the 5X.. but seeing the specs of the 6 made the decision tough...
The Nexus 6 is a lot more bang for buck.... You're getting a huge screen, a metal frame, OIS, NO USB C crab, 3 GB RAM, Water resistance, better speaker.
A fingerprint scanner would have been great, but for the price of the 6, I can't justify even spending extra 50$ to get the 5X.
I'm not sure though about the performance difference between the two. SD805 and SD808 don't look that different spec wise.
I'm just worried about the size though. I'm coming from a tiny 4.3 inch screen (i9100).. and I know this phone is huge that some people actually complained about its big size..
Currently it's sold for about 350$ (32gb version) in a local retailer here... Is there any cheaper deals out there for a new one ?
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Your brain and hands are used to the Nexus 6 size quite fast and after that there is no going back to a 5-5,5 inch screen imo. Besides the camera and fingerprint scanner the N6 is superior to the 5X , especialy the speakers are much better and i think the screen is very good.
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Your brain and hands are used to the Nexus 6 size quite fast and after that there is no going back to a 5-5,5 inch screen imo. Besides the camera and fingerprint scanner the N6 is superior to the 5X , especialy the speakers are much better and i think the screen is very good.
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Is the camera that bad ?
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Is the camera that bad ?
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With sufficient lighting the pics by the N6 are oke to good, the 5X`s camera is a bit better with low light conditions but not dramaticaly afaik.
OK, Thanks for your help guys..
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Is the camera that bad ?
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Not going to sugar coat it here, the Nexus 6 takes horrendous photos in low light in my experience. Other than that it's a great phone and I highly recommend it. The 5x on the other hand should take the same quality photos as the 6P since they have the same hardware. The 6P takes great photos and therefore so does the 5x, unless my logic is flawed somewhere.
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Not going to sugar coat it here, the Nexus 6 takes horrendous photos in low light in my experience. Other than that it's a great phone and I highly recommend it. The 5x on the other hand should take the same quality photos as the 6P since they have the same hardware. The 6P takes great photos and therefore so does the 5x, unless my logic is flawed somewhere.
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I'm not a huge camera guy anyway. I'm more of heavy user though and somehow a gamer... I think the camera in general is more than decent, right ?
and the face that It has OIS is a huge plus for me, both 6P and 5X cameras are horrible in videos in term of shackiness
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I'm not a huge camera guy anyway. I'm more of heavy user though and somehow a gamer... I think the camera in general is more than decent, right ?
and the face that It has OIS is a huge plus for me, both 6P and 5X cameras are horrible in videos in term of shackiness
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yeah, it's acceptable. The issue that I have is the camera simply not letting enough light in in those dark situations. It's workable though, and in adequate lighting with HDR and OIS it makes it a good shooter. I absolutely love this phone and actually just ordered a replacement.It is going to have update support for a while and is a beastly device.
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yeah, it's acceptable. The issue that I have is the camera simply not letting enough light in in those dark situations. It's workable though, and in adequate lighting with HDR and OIS it makes it a good shooter. I absolutely love this phone and actually just ordered a replacement.It is going to have update support for a while and is a beastly device.
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Yea, I'm already getting ready to order it....
Can't wait to get my hands on it
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Not going to sugar coat it here, the Nexus 6 takes horrendous photos in low light in my experience. Other than that it's a great phone and I highly recommend it. The 5x on the other hand should take the same quality photos as the 6P since they have the same hardware. The 6P takes great photos and therefore so does the 5x, unless my logic is flawed somewhere.
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lol, but i disagree here very much. sure, the nexus 6 camera isnt as good as the n6p/5x camera, but so isnt the last iphones camera. the n6 actually has a very good camera, sure its not the best, but its far from anything id ever call horrendous. well, i guess i could if i never knew how to properly use a camera. but i do, know how to use a camera, and im calling it a fairly decent camera. just take a look at me google+ account if you want to see proof https://plus.google.com/+semeonkorsunsky
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lol, but i disagree here very much. sure, the nexus 6 camera isnt as good as the n6p/5x camera, but so isnt the last iphones camera. the n6 actually has a very good camera, sure its not the best, but its far from anything id ever call horrendous. well, i guess i could if i never knew how to properly use a camera. but i do, know how to use a camera, and im calling it a fairly decent camera. just take a look at me google+ account if you want to see proof https://plus.google.com/+semeonkorsunsky
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Your photos do look great....
I've seen enough already... The Nexus 6 Camera with a Manual Camera app does take amazing photos...
coming from nexus 5, the N6 went for as little as 250 USD on amazon during the week after black Friday. I got it for 289$. Camera is good for a smartphone camera. the new camera app is much faster on everything. timely updates from Google or XDA. I would choose 5x because its a plastic LG anyway. if night pics and fingerprint are a must, you have other choices better then 5x at that base price.
the only con of N6 is dimensions, and that only your hands will complain. but your eyes will thank you. Also, as mentioned, there is no going back from 6 inch screen.
I haven't had my hands on the 5x or the 6p. I did come from the HTC One Max (after being my dd, the LCD died suddenly and so did the charge port). Bought a HTC One M7 as a replacement. Took time readjusting to a more common screen size. Then upgraded to the N6. I couldn't be happier. Plus, I've always been a Motorola fanboy. I came from an iPhone 4 and switched to a Droid 4. I like the feel of N6 and the ease of unlocking the BL and rooting. I actually have mine underclocked to 2.2ghz with custom hotplugging that uses only 2 cores most of time unless under heavy load. Camera is nice. It's not the best out there, but you can't argue with 13mp shooter. I installed the M9 camera apk and it works nicely as well. Only thing that will draw me away from the N6 in future years will be something of higher caliber that INCLUDES Expandable SD.
Did I mention the incredible battery life I get?
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lol, but i disagree here very much. sure, the nexus 6 camera isnt as good as the n6p/5x camera, but so isnt the last iphones camera. the n6 actually has a very good camera, sure its not the best, but its far from anything id ever call horrendous. well, i guess i could if i never knew how to properly use a camera. but i do, know how to use a camera, and im calling it a fairly decent camera. just take a look at me google+ account if you want to see proof https://plus.google.com/+semeonkorsunsky
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Well, the majority of my photography takes place on Snapchat which has no manual mode and fairly poor Android support so, my experience has been different then yours. You have proved to me though if you use manual settings and put a little effort in, the nexus 6 can take pretty nice outdoor shots that are not horrendous. I'm sorry.
So after two weeks i think i have a good idea on how this device is. Previous phones this year are. S6 Edge, Droid Turbo 2, Nexus 6p, S7 Edge and as of yesterday Note 7. And this is by far the best.
Smooth. Not Nexus smooth...Smoother. Smooth enough to when iphone users are talking about how there is lag in android i just pop on the John Cena entrance song and hand it to them and tell them that iphones are laggy.
Screen is great. Just remember put a tempered glass screen protector on it before you touch the display. I went with the Verizon one as it covers more then the zag. Few parts did not want to go down but after a few hours it was all good and they all went down with no problem. My turbo 2's display always felt t was pretty deep under the shattersheild and digitizer. The z feels like a typical display. Glad they fixed that on what i will call the second gen of shatter shield.
Fingerprint reader's location sucks. But im getting use to it again. But its fastest. Fastest i have ever used. And i love you just touch it again and it locks the phone.
The active display is a nice welcome. Unlike samsungs fail on it Moto did it right. This time smaller sensors and pretty much no impact on battery life..unlike samsung that sucks atleast 8% of the battery on my note 7. Thats kicking 280mAH of battery in the ass every day. They should of really did it like Moto.
Cameras are ok. Better for moto but a bit of a downgrade for point and click vs my S7E and N7. But you can take just as good pictures if you know what you are doing and know how to use all the manual camera settings. Point and click samsung still holds the crown.
Performance. Beast mode. In benchmarks like Antutu its faster in everything and absolutely crushes my N7 and S7E in the Ram part. Like i said this is the smoothest phone you can buy and i really cant bog it down. I was not expecting it to feel this much faster but its enough to flip around in the phone and say "damn thats snappy"
Charging. 35W.......35W Yeah full power you charging at over 6 amps.
Overall i love this phone. Moto mods are amazing. JBL speaker sounds great. Do not get the crapy tumi pack and go right for the incipo. Makes the phone heavy but its easy to hold. The weight will be the turn off for most. But 5,720mAH son. Set to efficacy mode and enjoy.
My S7E and my N7 are being sold. Z force is just better. I love the way my N7 feels and the display is great. But its same old same old. Its bringing nothing new. Nothing to wow me. Nothing to show off...oh its got a retina scanner. Thats slower then using your thumb and you have to swipe just to use it. And even then an engineer at my work when i let him see it took it came back with it unlocked and said might wanna delete anyone who may steal your phone off facebook and make all your images private. But the phone has class. It just feels classy. Like a Benz. It makes you feel good. But you not going to run around showing off stuff because most of that crap is on someone ford focus.
Moto mods have me thinking. Moto mod style back that takes 2 micro sd cards and dare i say it....RAID 0 them?!?! FLIR moto mod. E ink display, M.2 or Msata housing? I cant wait to see what comes of this. It got me excited about the phone. All around this is an amazing device and by far the best phone i have ever owned. If you are thinking about buying it just go use it at the store. After using it for a few min i bought on on the spot its that smooth..even with all of Verizons bloat.
Note about the verizon bumper case. Get a Razer with it. You need to trim a little for the moto mods to work. Little lip on the back just cut it flat "You will see" and all mods work perfect. But if you get the force do not leave the store without a screen protector. That i'll wait a day and do it wont fly. These screens on the force scratch if a mouse farts.
Downsides
No data cable. Better buy a quality usb a to c if you wanna use a data cable or any other chargers. Lenovo really could of gave us a data cable. or a converter. But the phone is great and im just going to be thankful that they did not cut massive corners to keep the profit up and toss in a data cable.
That was poetry in motion!^^
I agree with your comments. I am shocked how much faster the Z force is than my rooted Turbo was, even when I had RR 6.01 on it. Its a great phone, even just looking at pictures on it they just pop with that screen. Again, the screen is much better than my Turbo was. Love the fingerprint reader, still on the fence if front location is better than the rear like the 6P has.
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I agree with your comments. I am shocked how much faster the Z force is than my rooted Turbo was, even when I had RR 6.01 on it. Its a great phone, even just looking at pictures on it they just pop with that screen. Again, the screen is much better than my Turbo was. Love the fingerprint reader, still on the fence if front location is better than the rear like the 6P has.
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Yeah its the only phone that im able to use out of the box as is that does not feel laggy or slow. Hell even my 6p felt slow. Only thing i did was install nova launcher so i can hide all the verizon crap until i can delete it for good to clean up my app drawer but the phone is amazing.
Im use to the fingerprint reader on the front now. And use to the weight of the battery mod and holy crap i love the battery life. Heavy use 2 days no problem running 5+ hours of sot a day.
More or less my experience. I am going screen-protectorless, though. I don't want this thing any thicker than it is. I already have a couple tiny scratches, but since you can replace the top layer for $39 I figure I'll just do that in a year.
Yeah.. cheap USB C cables are no good. I tried a $2 chinese one from ebay. Didn't work at all. Here's a cheap old USB - USB-C cable that worked fine for me, to charge from your old chargers:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B432JQ4
Got this C to C one, works great:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017VIHQ6O
I got this car charger after returning another one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ESIWWGE
3A charge on USB C, I can confirm it's pretty fast. Just got back from a trip this weekend. From a full charge I got over five hours in the car with Waze running before I was below 20%... unbelievable. Plugged er in and it took an hour or so to recharge completely. with that car charger.
The one downside is that I can't have it plugged in while the phone is in my car holder because the cable is so chunky, it doesn't bend around my dashboard! Looking for a right-angle one, but haven't found yet. OTOH if I can go almost 6 hours and then just plug it in for an hour, who cares..
My wife got a plain Z, while I purchased the Force. I took the Force mainly for the extra battery, my job requires me to log the miles I drive and that app can be a killer in mountain areas. I was using a 6p before, but got tired of most people I call complaining of the echo, and the phone losing GPS constantly.
Well said. Granted, I think ANY phone I upgraded to from my OG Moto X would have felt amazing, but I really wanted to keep Moto Actions/Display, and I'm VERY pleased with my MZF.
blynkofaneye said:
Well said. Granted, I think ANY phone I upgraded to from my OG Moto X would have felt amazing, but I really wanted to keep Moto Actions/Display, and I'm VERY pleased with my MZF.
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I just upgraded from the OG Moto X as well, and the Actions/Display were a big part of my decision on a new phone. Ever pick up your X nowadays? It seems so tiny when I pick it up now!
As for the screen, I find it just fine as it is. I am sure the tempered glass would make it feel that much better, but it doesn't really bother me.
With the fingerprint reader, I just made sure to add my thumb to it, as it feels natural to just place my thumb on it rather than an index finger.
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I just upgraded from the OG Moto X as well, and the Actions/Display were a big part of my decision on a new phone. Ever pick up your X nowadays? It seems so tiny when I pick it up now!
As for the screen, I find it just fine as it is. I am sure the tempered glass would make it feel that much better, but it doesn't really bother me.
With the fingerprint reader, I just made sure to add my thumb to it, as it feels natural to just place my thumb on it rather than an index finger.
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I'm still using my Moto X as a gym music player, and yep, it seems TINY in comparison now. I held off upgrading for so long because I wanted a smaller phone with top-end specs. Realized that wasn't going to happen (save maybe the HTC10), so just bit the bullet. But man, the moto actions are SO much faster on this beast!
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I'm still using my Moto X as a gym music player, and yep, it seems TINY in comparison now. I held off upgrading for so long because I wanted a smaller phone with top-end specs. Realized that wasn't going to happen (save maybe the HTC10), so just bit the bullet. But man, the moto actions are SO much faster on this beast!
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Indeed. And once I heard no Moto X this year...
How was your battery on the X? Mine was draining insanely fast. Part of what sped up my decision to upgrade.
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Indeed. And once I heard no Moto X this year...
How was your battery on the X? Mine was draining insanely fast. Part of what sped up my decision to upgrade.
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Battery life was(is) dismal. Bought an new OEM battery off Amazon a couple months ago to stave off the upgrade. It ran GREAT for a few weeks, then almost overnight went right back to being crap again. Probably only lasts about 6 hours now.
I just got mine two days ago, won it through Moto Insiders. Why do you suggest getting a screen protector for it? To protect from scratches?
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More or less my experience. I am going screen-protectorless, though. I don't want this thing any thicker than it is. I already have a couple tiny scratches, but since you can replace the top layer for $39 I figure I'll just do that in a year.
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Does Moto/Lenovo offer that replacement service? Could you link me to it?
Yes, to protect from scratches. The replaceable shattershield doesn't seem to be available yet. Are you able to share about Moto insiders or is it a Fight Club kind of thing? It sounds different than soak testers.
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Yes, to protect from scratches. The replaceable shattershield doesn't seem to be available yet. Are you able to share about Moto insiders or is it a Fight Club kind of thing? It sounds different than soak testers.
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It's like a rep website. I work inside a Best Buy, and the Motorola rep signed me up for the site a while ago. They run contests sometimes for free phones, and there are things you do on the site that earn you points that you can cash in for free stuff, ranging from small things like a mug and larger things, like a Moto Hint, or a Moto X Pure
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Do not get the crapy tumi pack and go right for the incipo.
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Could you explain this? They seem to have similar specs but with the incipo being cheaper.
Thanks in advance and thanks for your review, I'm off to the store today!
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Could you explain this? They seem to have similar specs but with the incipo being cheaper.
The TUMI is made by Incipio... So it's pretty much the same thing, with a different shell on it.
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Maybe someone can help me with this,,,when you use the "okay moto Z" to wake the phone and do something like make a phone call,,,in previous moto phones there was an option to turn on the phone speaker when making calls,,,I cant seem to find that option?
You have to say 'OK Moto z, call someone on speaker phone'. They are using Google commands exclusively for Z so whatever Google supports.
I've had me device 2 days, and all I can say is wow. Major improvement over the V20 I was using. I returned it the day I got this phone. White and gold make it seem more of a premium phone. Super snappy and battery is amazing. Def. A keeper for me.
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I've had me device 2 days, and all I can say is wow. Major improvement over the V20 I was using. I returned it the day I got this phone. White and gold make it seem more of a premium phone. Super snappy and battery is amazing. Def. A keeper for me.
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i also returned my V20 after one day. went back to the S7 Edge for a week then got the Moto Z Force Droid from Best Buy. Love it, putting the S7 Edge on eBay tonight
Hiya tech-mates !
I'd love to have your opinion.
I just asked myself, if my (underestimated)beloved Shamu needs to be replaced tomorrow, for any reason, (hope he won't, at least few years)
which phone could be as good as N6 was (and still is) nowadays ?
I.e. our shamu is being old little by little but still in race yet imo..
Got it since 2 years from now, and the more time passes, the more I like N6 !
-32/64bits transition is in a good way and almost finished (flagships). I think new SoCs (even more powerful) are still not as efficient as SD805 is. (without filling RAM with useless data or using an 32bits-adaptator which waste ressources)
-Cameras are quite better now
-Fingerprint scanner is a classic feature now (if you need it)
-Stock ROM "outdated" and security patch ends soon
-better StB ratio (not that much)
IMO, there's no device yet which beat the Shamu considering overall characteristics. And buying a new one will make me loose some beloved features I guess (screen size/type/quality, awesome dualspeakers, software fluidity, xda ressources/ROMS, Qi, LED)
If I need to buy a new phone today, I'll surely take a brand new N6 but i'll think about waiting for a OP5 or maybe chinese devices P10+/Mi Mix2/Mi 6+.
Which one would you choose ? (do your own suggestions)
(excuse my english, he's dirty)
I would recommend either waiting for the OP5 or getting the OP3T. I used to own the N6 but it ended in a tragic fate. So I decided to get the OP3T. Love it! Super fast, great camera, great battery, I love the fingerprint scanner, and the notification LED. The only downfall IMO is the speaker. It can easily be covered up and block sound. Other than that I would definitely recommend the OP3T or the OP5 if it it any good
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I would recommend either waiting for the OP5 or getting the OP3T. I used to own the N6 but it ended in a tragic fate. So I decided to get the OP3T. Love it! Super fast, great camera, great battery, I love the fingerprint scanner, and the notification LED. The only downfall IMO is the speaker. It can easily be covered up and block sound. Other than that I would definitely recommend the OP3T or the OP5 if it it any good
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Is there any phone which have a speaker as good as the N6s one ?
So hard to leave that speaker :S
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Is there any phone which have a speaker as good as the N6s one ? [emoji14]
So hard to leave that speaker :S
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I can only think of the 6P or the pixel... (If you don't get one with the glitched out speaker...) But sorry. I can't think of anything, but I know what you mean. I definitely miss that
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The new Google phones are to expensive .
OnePlus 3T or LG G6 are acceptable priced.
But my N6 - debloated and decrypted - is still fast and smooth.
I can wait...
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Is there any phone which have a speaker as good as the N6s one ?
So hard to leave that speaker :S
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The Axon 7 has very good sound, stereo speakers.
mesco38 said:
Is there any phone which have a speaker as good as the N6s one ? [emoji14]
So hard to leave that speaker :S
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Pixel XL speaker is much weaker (hah). Clear but sounds muffled compared to the venerable Shamu. Also only one speaker so the only stereo is through the headphone jack. Other than that, the Marlin is nice.
I read an article recently that Nokia (Yeah, read that correctly) wants to push the Nexus line back into existence. Or at least as close as possible, replicating the Nexus experience of little to no bloatware, and fast updates. My N6 is chugging along just fine right now, but I hope that Nokia follows through, because that just might be my new phone..
I've been watching for one, but there just aren't a lot of options if you like larger phones. What I need to see...
5.5" minimum screen size. 16:9. Might have to reevaluate if the ratios change much more. 1080p or better.
AOSP builds supported, no locked bootloader.
Better RAM/CPU/storage specs than the N6.
SD card. I don't care if the phone comes with 1TB internal, I want the damn SD slot. The manufacturing cost is about 20 cents, just put it in.
Forward facing speakers that sound decent.
Decent reception on TMobile LTE bands. Ideally supporting all US carriers, but Sprint/VZW are annoying.
Ideally, TMobile WiFi calling enabled.
Ideally, 4000+ mAh battery or user removable so I can get a bigger battery.
Ideally, flat screen so I can use tempered glass screen protectors.
Max price $500 US.
Oh yeah, no spontaneous combustion.
Axon 7 is the only one close. Flat screen and battery are not there, but the price is nice and performance is good. AOSP builds are fully functional now, thanks to the devs over there.
I know it's not a nexus-killer, but I just ordered a Note 5 to replace my Nexus 6. There's nothing that quite matches the beauty of Samsung, plus I just miss the S-Pen. Plus it'll be just enough smaller, thinner, and lighter enough that it won't feel big and bulky in my hand, as well as it being nice and balanced unlike the N6 which is noticeably bigger and heavier on the top than on the bottom.
The only things I'll really miss of the N6 are 1) 100% carrier compatibility 2) Stereo front speakers (oh man, no phone beats these) and 3) plain stock os, although that's starting to lag behind on speed (even though it gets faster antutu than lineage). Anyway. I'm pretty excited. And again, definitely not a nexus-killer in any way, but the Note 5 just has things I value more than getting a vanilla experience.
Besides, if Google is going to turn Apple and make an iphone-clone and also make it so I have to be unrooted/locked anyway in order to pass safetynet, I might as well move back to what's comfortable to use. Just my 2c.
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The new Google phones are to expensive .
OnePlus 3T or LG G6 are acceptable priced.
But my N6 - debloated and decrypted - is still fast and smooth.
I can wait...
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Totally agree and will wait too until he dies
N6 debloated, even encrypted, still runs everything perfectly smoothly and still have one of the best stereo dual speakers.. Autonomy is fine too, event after 2 years he's still running 1 day and half with normal/good use (no wifi, always on 4G, no gps, using youtube with or without earphones at least 1 hour)
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The Axon 7 has very good sound, stereo speakers.
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Wow, didn't know that phone, looks great. Stock ROM excepted, he really looks like a N6 "successor" (not really sure that SD820+4Go RAM+64bitsOS runs that much better than SD805+3Go RAM+32bitsOS - your opinion ?)(I don't trust benchmarks)
Heard something about alternative ROMs with him ? Will look after some xda forums
Anything about ZTE quality/updates/after-sales ?
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I've been watching for one, but there just aren't a lot of options if you like larger phones. What I need to see...
5.5" minimum screen size. 16:9. Might have to reevaluate if the ratios change much more. 1080p or better.
AOSP builds supported, no locked bootloader.
Better RAM/CPU/storage specs than the N6.
SD card. I don't care if the phone comes with 1TB internal, I want the damn SD slot. The manufacturing cost is about 20 cents, just put it in.
Forward facing speakers that sound decent.
Decent reception on TMobile LTE bands. Ideally supporting all US carriers, but Sprint/VZW are annoying.
Ideally, TMobile WiFi calling enabled.
Ideally, 4000+ mAh battery or user removable so I can get a bigger battery.
Ideally, flat screen so I can use tempered glass screen protectors.
Max price $500 US.
Oh yeah, no spontaneous combustion.
Axon 7 is the only one close. Flat screen and battery are not there, but the price is nice and performance is good. AOSP builds are fully functional now, thanks to the devs over there.
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Totally agreed.. SDCard excepted, got the same requirements
Hope there's a new phone soon (pixel2 ? but they don't seem to go on this way..)
Axon 7 looks great indeed
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I know it's not a nexus-killer, but I just ordered a Note 5 to replace my Nexus 6. There's nothing that quite matches the beauty of Samsung, plus I just miss the S-Pen. Plus it'll be just enough smaller, thinner, and lighter enough that it won't feel big and bulky in my hand, as well as it being nice and balanced unlike the N6 which is noticeably bigger and heavier on the top than on the bottom.
The only things I'll really miss of the N6 are 1) 100% carrier compatibility 2) Stereo front speakers (oh man, no phone beats these) and 3) plain stock os, although that's starting to lag behind on speed (even though it gets faster antutu than lineage). Anyway. I'm pretty excited. And again, definitely not a nexus-killer in any way, but the Note 5 just has things I value more than getting a vanilla experience.
Besides, if Google is going to turn Apple and make an iphone-clone and also make it so I have to be unrooted/locked anyway in order to pass safetynet, I might as well move back to what's comfortable to use. Just my 2c.
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SHAME ON U
SHAME2U
SHAMU !!
What's the interest turning GPhones into Apple-likePhones ?
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What's the interest turning GPhones into Apple-likePhones ?
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Money! They want us to use Android pay. Banks don't like rooting; fear of fraud.
As the Moto X Pure was a nice update of what I loved about the N6, I was hoping that the 2017 Moto X would continue that line. Unfortunately, from the leaks we have seen, it looks more like an HTC phone or even an iPhone than the logical continuation of the N6. But the price points that MotoLenova are hitting are really tempting. I even think the G5 Plus would make a nice phone at that price. I'll see what they eventually release with the Moto X before I decide. I've just gotten to a point where the Pixels of the world are too expensive for what you get.
But like all of us here in the N6 forum, I am still rocking my Shamu.
NLBeev said:
Money! They want us to use Android pay. Banks don't like rooting; fear of fraud.
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IMO, I don't think Android/applepay will last over time..
So insecure and new-gen credit cards are developped right now (with screen/digital pin or fingerprint scanner)
mesco38 said:
IMO, I don't think Android/applepay will last over time..
So insecure and new-gen credit cards are developped right now (with screen/digital pin or fingerprint scanner)
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But I can't think of other reasons why Google makes it more difficult to get root access.
G. doesn't even manage to create a dark UI.
I am beginning to dislike Google....
Hopefully there will be soon new credit-cards.
BTw Phone paying is recently introduced here in the Netherlands.
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But I can't think of other reasons why Google makes it more difficult to get root access.
G. doesn't even manage to create a dark UI.
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I guess, users who make last their phone 3+ years by rooting, installing customroms, changing screens and batteries themselves, is not worthy in this consumery society..
When you see how sheeps spend their money with iPhones, spending 1000€/years sometimes to get a 2years-late technology.. Com'on, "Think different"
NLBeev said:
I am beginning to dislike Google....
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Yep, same for me :crying:
At least stock android/G-devices
NLBeev said:
Hopefully there will be soon new credit-cards.
BTw Phone paying is recently introduced here in the Netherlands.
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Here, in France, banks have already made an agreement among them, tu use a local payment service called "paylib". So they don't wanna introduce android pay. (but applepay is already working here..)
Fu**ing retarded country we are..
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Totally agreed.. SDCard excepted, got the same requirements
Hope there's a new phone soon (pixel2 ? but they don't seem to go on this way..)
Axon 7 looks great indeed
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SD is one of those things people seem to love or hate. There's no one right way, but there's also nothing saying you have to put a card in there if there's a slot. But if there's not a slot, you have no choice. As it's tiny, costs almost nothing, and harms nothing to have it, why not? Then everyone can have it however they like. Those digital packrats can have tons of storage, those who prefer not to have one just don't install one. The Axon 7 implementation is particularly nice, the SIM tray is a dual SIM and one of them can be an SD or a SIM. It can even be both, but that requires some modifications to the SD cards. IMO the only people to gain anything from it not being there are device manufacturers (sell overpriced higher capacity versions), and cloud providers trying to sell you storage.
Axon 7 is really the only device I could see buying right now. The LG G6 looks nice, but LGs history with bootloops and lack of service has me avoiding them. AOSP is not possible at the moment though, so G6 is out.
OnePlus 3T looks nice, screen is a bit small and no SD.
I really liked my Note 3, but Samsung is on a lockdown thing right now, and I won't buy a device I can't actually own. He who controls the software controls the device.
None have the removable battery, which would be nice, and all are a bit small on battery for me, but I can live with that. Nothing is perfect. I'm in no hurry at the moment, Shamu and the devs here are treating me well.