Anyone know details about locked Note 4? - Galaxy Note 4 General

Hi,
If I purchase a Note 4 that is locked to EE network UK, does anyone know if it's possible to make the phone like a factory unlocked version direct from Samsung?
Or can I only use specific EE firmware on it?
Sorry, I don't really know much when it comes to UK network phones.
Would appreciate any help, thanks!

Hi. If you purchase the phone through carphone warehouse the handset will not be locked.
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roryh86 said:
Hi,
If I purchase a Note 4 that is locked to EE network UK, does anyone know if it's possible to make the phone like a factory unlocked version direct from Samsung?
Or can I only use specific EE firmware on it?
Sorry, I don't really know much when it comes to UK network phones.
Would appreciate any help, thanks!
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You can flash any software for your variant on it. I think ee is the 910f so any rom from any carrier for the 910f will work but unfortunately it will be sim locked to ee and probably region locked to Europe. You can pay ee or an online website for the sim unlock code but unless you plan to use a different sim there's no point

Thanks! I'm actually thinking of going for the Exynos version now. The reason I was asking is because I found a good price for it on Gumtree but still not sure if a locked Snapdragon Note 4 phone is the way to go..

roryh86 said:
Thanks! Im actually thinking of going for the Exynos version now. The reason I was asking is because I found a good price for it on Gumtree but still not sure if a locked Snapdragon Note 4 phone is the way to go..
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Tbh I think most people would prefer the exynos but as most of us are getting it on contract we will end up with the snapdragon. The exynos may well be the better phone but with all us and most of Europe getting snapdragon that will probably be the most supported version.
What I will say I have yet to find an app I use that doesn't work on my 4 year old s2 so i very much doubt there will be anything in the next 2 years that the snapdragon can't handle with ease. Even the new nexus has a 32 bit snapdragon so google will not be pushing 64 bit any time soon

sawdoctor said:
Tbh I think most people would prefer the exynos but as most of us are getting it on contract we will end up with the snapdragon. The exynos may well be the better phone but with all us and most of Europe getting snapdragon that will probably be the most supported version.
What I will say I have yet to find an app I use that doesn't work on my 4 year old s2 so i very much doubt there will be anything in the next 2 years that the snapdragon can't handle with ease. Even the new nexus has a 32 bit snapdragon so google will not be pushing 64 bit any time soon
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I still have a year left on my Vodafone contract so getting one off contract is still the better option for me. But despite that, the SM-N910X Snapdragon version that I played around with at the O2 store seemed to lag somewhat, which worried me. The Exynos versions that I've seen online and YouTube seems to be smoother in my opinion.
Also, I haven't been hearing complaints from Exynos Note 4 holders, they all say its smooth and lag free. From the people that are complaining about lag, most of them seem to be Snapdragon holders. Not to mention that the Exynos is better in most of the benchmarks. Just take a look at this comparison:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/750158?baseline=972742

roryh86 said:
I still have a year left on my Vodafone contract so getting one off contract is still the better option for me. But despite that, the SM-N910X Snapdragon version that I played around with at the O2 store seemed to lag somewhat, which worried me. The Exynos versions that I've seen online and YouTube seems to be smoother in my opinion.
Also, I haven't been hearing complaints from Exynos Note 4 holders, they all say its smooth and lag free. From the people that are complaining about lag, most of them seem to be Snapdragon holders. Not to mention that the Exynos is better in most of the benchmarks. Just take a look at this comparison:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/750158?baseline=972742
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My ee upgrade arrives in the morning so will have a better idea. Twizz lags a bit on any device due to its design, i've seen one person complain about lag in several different posts tbh. It's your choice obviously and if you are spending a lot of money you should get the model that you actually want so for that reason exynos might be better but make sure you check which bands the device and your carrier are supporting or ot could be a waste of money. I really can't see anything with a 2.7g quad core processor lagging with anything, any games that lag will some be fixed with optimisation

What about buy it outright from the Sumsung store??
If it is still locked to a carrier, can I just unlock it by paying for an unlock code online?
Or it is still locked to the carrier's frequency or something even after the unlock??

ToyMusha said:
What about buy it outright from the Sumsung store??
If it is still locked to a carrier, can I just unlock it by paying for an unlock code online?
Or it is still locked to the carrier's frequency or something even after the unlock??
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If you bought it from Samsung it wont be locked.

ToyMusha said:
What about buy it outright from the Sumsung store??
If it is still locked to a carrier, can I just unlock it by paying for an unlock code online?
Or it is still locked to the carrier's frequency or something even after the unlock??
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The phone will not be locked to the carriers frequency, as already posted sim free won't be sim locked and any sim locked phone can be unlocked for a small fee. What can't be changed is the phone hardware. Whatever bands the phone has can't be changed, there are several thread's stating what bands each model supports so just make sure to get a model that supports the bands your carrier uses

Just for the record things like tap to pay won't work on a unlocked phone. I had a S4 and a G3 all unlocked none work. My Z2 did and that was locked

sawdoctor said:
My ee upgrade arrives in the morning so will have a better idea. Twizz lags a bit on any device due to its design, i've seen one person complain about lag in several different posts tbh. It's your choice obviously and if you are spending a lot of money you should get the model that you actually want so for that reason exynos might be better but make sure you check which bands the device and your carrier are supporting or ot could be a waste of money. I really can't see anything with a 2.7g quad core processor lagging with anything, any games that lag will some be fixed with optimisation
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Can I ask what deal you got from EE? I'm going to push them for an early upgrade but not sure what deal I can squeeze out of them....
Best deal atm is £28 pm plus £99 upfront with O2, unlimited calls / text plus 1GB data
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dannysmith43 said:
Can I ask what deal you got from EE? I'm going to push them for an early upgrade but not sure what deal I can squeeze out of them....
Best deal atm is £28 pm plus £99 upfront with O2, unlimited calls / text plus 1GB data
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I'm on a business tariff so it's a bit different. I got unlimited calls and texts plus 5gig data for £40 a month and free phone but I was due an upgrade

How can i tell if i have snapdragon or exynos?

daz_2000 said:
How can i tell if i have snapdragon or exynos?
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What model do you have? Settings>About Device>Model number

roryh86 said:
What model do you have? Settings>About Device>Model number
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SM-N910F

daz_2000 said:
SM-N910F
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That's the European version which is Snapdragon.
Edit: It says it on the back of the box as well.

roryh86 said:
That's the European version which is Snapdragon.
Edit: It says it on the back of the box as well.
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Thanks. Is one supposed to be better than other? Is there much in it?

daz_2000 said:
Thanks. Is one supposed to be better than other? Is there much in it?
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I haven't tried the Exynos. I have the 910F like you and its extremely fast. I suppose the Exynos is slightly faster but nothing to lose sleep over.

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N920C vs N920I on AT&T?

Looking to pick up one of these variants to use on AT&T and from my understanding, they both support all AT&T bands.. Is there any pros and cons to either variant? Which one works better on AT&T? Sorry if this was already asked but I didn't see any comments specific to AT&T..
XavierD8188 said:
Looking to pick up one of these variants to use on AT&T and from my understanding, they both support all AT&T bands.. Is there any pros and cons to either variant? Which one works better on AT&T? Sorry if this was already asked but I didn't see any comments specific to AT&T..
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I use the i varient on att. Now i am using the c version marshmallow os. The only hiccup ive had is the csc-country sales code messes with what apps the google market lets you see and install.
Assuming you didn't have any issues with the i software and google apps right? I don't plan on rooting or flashing roms just wanna get away from carrier branding and crap-ware.
rangercaptain said:
I use the i varient on att. Now i am using the c version marshmallow os. The only hiccup ive had is the csc-country sales code messes with what apps the google market lets you see and install.
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No, gmail, etc works like normal. The csc for the i varient i have is XSA so the market thinks im from australia, so news apps give me those feeds. Other than that, its been a good phone without all the att crapware. The c varient software doesnt have any problems at all.
Nice. Thank you for the information..
rangercaptain said:
No, gmail, etc works like normal. The csc for the i varient i have is XSA so the market thinks im from australia, so news apps give me those feeds. Other than that, its been a good phone without all the att crapware. The c varient software doesnt have any problems at all.
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using i version from Singapore on AT&T with no problem whatsoever. You don't get visual voicemail with unlocked international phone. But I don't really care about it. I hate AT&T crapware and limitations.
Nice. Same here. I hate AT&T crapware. I had the Note 5 AT&T model and got so fed up with it that I sold it and got a Nexus 6P but now I want a Note 5 again since they're really good prices on them now. Since I have the nexus 6p I don't get any of that stuff so I wont miss it.. Thanks...
carlitos66 said:
using i version from Singapore on AT&T with no problem whatsoever. You don't get visual voicemail with unlocked international phone. But I don't really care about it. I hate AT&T crapware and limitations.
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So the c or the i is better ? Any opinions?
Have beem using I version for 6 months and no issues at all...
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Cool deal, next question, I have the att version, is it that much better to justify spending 550$ just because?
Bigtjmc said:
Cool deal, next question, I have the att version, is it that much better to justify spending 550$ just because?
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I would wait for Note 6
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Bigtjmc said:
Cool deal, next question, I have the att version, is it that much better to justify spending 550$ just because?
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This is what I'm wondering

Exynos version on Verizon

Anyone know if the exynos version would work on verizon? I assume that that it would but the 1x and 3g would not. lol, i would be ok with that if i also go root and TWRP.
My follow up question is where could we order it? It would be nice to get it right from samsung, but i don't see that option.
I have the same question
Gigatopiloto said:
I have the same question
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i think this is the place to buy it. Since they will open it up and use one of their sims to make 5 minutes of calls before sending it to us, so it doesn't lock up once we get it.
Has anyone used 4g exclusively on verizon, what are the drawbacks?
I know where to buy it here in the US. I could actually buy it today. Just want to know if it will work on Verizon
Gigatopiloto said:
I know where to buy it here in the US. I could actually buy it today. Just want to know if it will work on Verizon
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I dont think you will be able to use it to make phone calls or msg because verizon use a CDMA network for this and the exynos version doesnt have this. Just my guess.
Samsung's soc never supports cdma (big Q owns the patents) so that's why the rest of the world who aren't on cdma gets the exynos versions
gqukyo said:
Samsung's soc never supports cdma (big Q owns the patents) so that's why the rest of the world who aren't on cdma gets the exynos versions
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That's not true at all, my Galaxy Tab S2 is an Exynos and runs on Verizon LTE., and the galaxy S6 was an Exynos 7420 on Verizon.
Oh I stand corrected. I knew the tablets were supported but figured since you don't make calls from them, it wouldn't need cdma. In either case, unless it's made for Verizon, the exynos versions won't natively support Verizon.
The FCC filing shows it support the Verizon LTE bands, but no CDMA bands.
It would probably work for data but I am not sure if it would work for calls, unless they implement VOLTE on the international version for Verizon.
Guys it's best to wait for the North American unlocked version (Qualcomm chip) to become available in a couple of weeks or so.
It will definitely work on both Verizon and Sprint and their MVNOs.
I can see bhphotovideo taking preorders for it already, and the page is setup on bestbuy. This is the S8 version I'm gonna go for. Downside is it will cost you a little more, but it is worth it to me to know I can use it on all US carriers.
Edit: looks like bhphoto added the model numbers for their preorders as "SM-G950F" and "SM-G955F", which is the same as the European/global GSM version. So that is Exynos chipset powered, and it's a no go for CDMA guys.
The plus on this model is it gets the software updates more quickly than the US unlocked model. (This is still speculation based on Samsung not updating SM-G930U to Android 7 for months while the SM-G930F and the US carrier models already received their updates.)
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Commodore 64 said:
Guys it's best to wait for the North American unlocked version (Qualcomm chip) to become available in a couple of weeks or so.
It will definitely work on both Verizon and Sprint and their MVNOs.
I can see bhphotovideo taking preorders for it already, and the page is setup on bestbuy. This is the S8 version I'm gonna go for. Downside is it will cost you a little more, but it is worth it to me to know I can use it on all US carriers.
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unlocked as in unlocked BOOTLOADER? Or just for use on any carrier?
JAYNO20 said:
unlocked as in unlocked BOOTLOADER? Or just for use on any carrier?
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Unlocked as in "unlocked for all carriers" (or "sim free" is what Samsung UK calls their SM-G95*F versions). But I wouldn't be surprised if the bootloader is also unlocked.
My guess, even with the unlocked (unencrypted) bootloader, is once you flash a custom ROM/recovery it will still trip the Samsung Knox binary counter and void the warranty. This is just speculation based on Samsung's devices in the past. We have to wait until someone gets their hand on the US unlocked version.
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Commodore 64 said:
Unlocked as in "unlocked for all carriers" (or "sim free" is what Samsung UK calls their SM-G95*F versions). But I wouldn't be surprised if the bootloader is also unlocked.
My guess, even with the unlocked (unencrypted) bootloader, is once you flash a custom ROM/recovery it will still trip the Samsung Knox binary counter and void the warranty. This is just speculation based on Samsung's devices in the past. We have to wait until someone gets their hand on the US unlocked version.
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Sim unlocked at best buy will be out may 9th priced at 725/825
i buy international versions all the time...
don't listen to all these people who just make things up but never used it.
supported bands according to this site just an example:
http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7922/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos
I have the exynos s7 i bought from B&H in US. on verizon CDMA won't connect, but if you are in a region with VOLTE and you don't travel within US, it should be fine.
all the international versions have much better support if you are on ATT/Tmobile where GSM is the "3g/crippled 4g" I left verizon for Tmobile just to get better support for Exynos.
now... i didn't check validity of the site above, but it gives u an idea. i just wanted to chime in.
Exynos has much better power management IMO. my wife's phone is S7 tmobile variant, and when i was using s7 Exynos, my battery life was BETTER AND i use the phone way more than her throughout the day.
going to, i actually bought s8 TMobile this time... just so i can use samsung pay... samsung pay will work if you modify the CSC and install spay/framework, but guess i'm getting old and getting lazy
exynos will likely get rooted FIRST, and the first root type will likely trip Knox, and without Knox, no samsung pay...
TLDR. Exynos will work on vzw but not all the bands. if you think it's too risky, don't get it.
2 upsides that actually matter IMO when it comes to Exynos versions.
1. less bloat, I say less, because Exynos versions come with all kinds of CSCs from all over the world. and depending on where it came from... you'll see it installing regional specific apps on your initial boot. 1 year i had a phone with Arab CSC and it installed bunch of apps made for Arabs... on another phone i had a UK CSC and it installed all kinds of UK news apps.
2. better battery
3. faster updates from sammobile
jucytec said:
i buy international versions all the time...
don't listen to all these people who just make things up but never used it.
supported bands according to this site just an example:
http://www.china-prices.com/phone/bands/7922/samsung-galaxy-s8-exynos
I have the exynos s7 i bought from B&H in US. on verizon CDMA won't connect, but if you are in a region with VOLTE and you don't travel within US, it should be fine.
all the international versions have much better support if you are on ATT/Tmobile where GSM is the "3g/crippled 4g" I left verizon for Tmobile just to get better support for Exynos.
now... i didn't check validity of the site above, but it gives u an idea. i just wanted to chime in.
Exynos has much better power management IMO. my wife's phone is S7 tmobile variant, and when i was using s7 Exynos, my battery life was BETTER AND i use the phone way more than her throughout the day.
going to, i actually bought s8 TMobile this time... just so i can use samsung pay... samsung pay will work if you modify the CSC and install spay/framework, but guess i'm getting old and getting lazy
exynos will likely get rooted FIRST, and the first root type will likely trip Knox, and without Knox, no samsung pay...
TLDR. Exynos will work on vzw but not all the bands. if you think it's too risky, don't get it.
2 upsides that actually matter IMO when it comes to Exynos versions.
1. less bloat, I say less, because Exynos versions come with all kinds of CSCs from all over the world. and depending on where it came from... you'll see it installing regional specific apps on your initial boot. 1 year i had a phone with Arab CSC and it installed bunch of apps made for Arabs... on another phone i had a UK CSC and it installed all kinds of UK news apps.
2. better battery
3. faster updates from sammobile
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Did you gloss over the fact that regular phone calls wont work on the international Exynos version using a Verizon sim?
954wrecker said:
Did you gloss over the fact that regular phone calls wont work on the international Exynos version using a Verizon sim?
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yes... hence i said if you are in an area with VOLTE and you don't travel. that is the reason why i went tmobile.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...m-g950v-vs-samsung-galaxy-s8-sm-g950u/5341523
look at 2g/3g difference OP
jucytec said:
yes... hence i said if you are in an area with VOLTE and you don't travel. that is the reason why i went tmobile.
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...m-g950v-vs-samsung-galaxy-s8-sm-g950u/5341523
look at 2g/3g difference OP
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I read it I just think its a dumb GSM phone for people that have a dumb CDMA phone provider. LTE only is not a solution Verizon people simply need Verizon phones. Just like Sprint people need Sprint phones. Getting international GSM phones for use on CDMA service providers is stupid. Thats one reason CDMA is crap compared to GSM. Unlocked phones like some apple and moto and rare samsung are the best solution. Best Buy will have the unlocked snapdragon available in 2 weeks for $725/$825
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jonno95 said:
Anyone know if the exynos version would work on verizon? I assume that that it would but the 1x and 3g would not. lol, i would be ok with that if i also go root and TWRP.
My follow up question is where could we order it? It would be nice to get it right from samsung, but i don't see that option.
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You dont need regular calls? You are going LTE only and hoping you dont miss any calls? If you are using hangouts for calls and don't need cellular phone calls then go get one. Ebay, amazon, they have them for sale, forget warranty unless you want a huge hassle.
954wrecker said:
I read it I just think its a dumb GSM phone for people that have a dumb CDMA phone provider. LTE only is not a solution Verizon people simply need Verizon phones. Just like Sprint people need Sprint phones. Getting international GSM phones for use on CDMA service providers is stupid. Thats one reason CDMA is crap compared to GSM. Unlocked phones like some apple and moto and rare samsung are the best solution. Best Buy will have the unlocked snapdragon available in 2 weeks for $725/$825
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You dont need regular calls? You are going LTE only and hoping you dont miss any calls? If you are using hangouts for calls and don't need cellular phone calls then go get one. Ebay, amazon, they have them for sale, forget warranty unless you want a huge hassle.
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I understand everything. I was wondering who has done it in the past. Everyone in my company with the latest update from Verizon has seen their CDMA coverage disappear. Where they once had CDMA service, they now have none. Verizon seem to really be pushing the VoLTE. I've had phones where i have disabled all non 4g bands, because i didn't like it switching, and it actually worked better for me. The main reason i ask is because the international version has root and TWRP. Hopefully the US version will get root, but i don't think we'll every get an unlocked bootloader. The verizon version is already sim unlocked, so i'm not looking for more sim unlocked phones that don't have root.
jonno95 said:
I understand everything. I was wondering who has done it in the past. Everyone in my company with the latest update from Verizon has seen their CDMA coverage disappear. Where they once had CDMA service, they now have none. Verizon seem to really be pushing the VoLTE. I've had phones where i have disabled all non 4g bands, because i didn't like it switching, and it actually worked better for me. The main reason i ask is because the international version has root and TWRP. Hopefully the US version will get root, but i don't think we'll every get an unlocked bootloader. The verizon version is already sim unlocked, so i'm not looking for more sim unlocked phones that don't have root.
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I undersrand now. Go exynos based on what you just mentioned
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I undersrand now. Go exynos based on what you just mentioned
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Thanks for your help and concern. haha, i still don't want to be the first. I'm going to see what happens here before i get too serious about getting it. The risk in waiting is that the current unlocked bootloader method for the exynos may get patched. idk

I have Sprint. Which Note 8 to buy? Root. Please Help!

Hello,
Which Note 8 should I buy?
International Version
Unlocked Version
Sprint Version
I heard the processor for the International Version is best I think it stats with an E. Should I get that?
I would like to root.
Does it matter or should I just order one directly from Sprint?
Will this work with Sprint?
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Factory Unlocked Phone - 6.3" Screen - 64GB - Midnight Black (U.S. Warranty)
This one from Amazon?
Should I buy that one above from Amazon or buy it directly from Sprint?
Can I root both of them?
I would like to order one today, I just don't know if I should order from Sprint or Amazon.
P.S.
Also if this is not possible should I get a S8 or S8 Plus? However, reading over on their threads doesn't look like root is possible really there either, hit or miss. Is that true? Which S8 I should get? International or US?
I mainly want apps like:
Ad Block
YouTube Background Player
YouTube Ad Block
ETC...
Please Advise.
you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
purchasedPhone said:
you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.
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you said sprint, sprint is cmda... meaning, exynos WILL NOT WORK. no international phone, you must buy snapdragon. now you have two choices carrier locked, and carrier unlocked. both have a locked boot loader and are not currently capable of root. if you purchase the phone out right it does not really matter which version you get. if you buy sprint locked after 50 days on their network they will carrier unlock the phone. the only true difference is carrier bloatware/ software which I'm hearing can be flashed using odin
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Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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There are SOME radio differences but I agree it shouldn't matter.
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What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable? I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
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from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
AtlantaBB said:
Thank you, that is what I need to know. Now what about getting a S8 or S8 Plus instead? Are those rootable?
What about S8 or S8 Plus? Root those or are people still having trouble? I think Samsung has finally figured out how to make it really difficult. Seems like it is not even worth it anymore.
I mean does it even matter any more? The only thing I really want root for is Youtube Ad Block, but what the crap, mine as well just pay 10 bucks a month and get Youtube Red and allow my phone to update it self all the time.
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The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
purchasedPhone said:
from what I hear it is possible to root the s8, but it limits your max battery charge to 80%? kinda a **** trade off if you ask me.
so I'm like you I thought I must have root, my last android was a Nexus with a completely unlocked boot loader and I flashed custom roms when I tired of my current rom. that was four years ago and I've been jailbroke iOS since. do you still need root?
most people will say no. if they say absolutely the main arguments I've heard are for xposed(which doesn't even work on android 7) and viper4android (or some similar name, a sound tweak I think) besides those two, removing bloatware, and hosts file ad blocking.
my personal experience: I will be giving up an unlocked boot loader by purchasing the note 8. this mean no custom roms. I haven't given up hope for a future possible root method, but I am willing to accept that it may never come or when it does we can only charge to 80% or something else ridiculous. I don't need root, I would like it, but I will compromise.
tldr;probably not, especially if you are willing to sub to YouTube red for 10$ a month.
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Torquemada288 said:
The issue is that the Snapdragons have locked bootloaders but you need a SD version to use the Sprint network. It doesn't matter if you buy a Note 8 or an S8, the issue with the locked bootloader is the same.
For me personally, I need root because a lot of the apps I have use root. If you only wanted to block ads on YouTube, it's probably unnecessary and far more hassle than it's worth.
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Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
AtlantaBB said:
Last question. I saw on another thread that this ... Is this true? Should I buy one that is unlocked from Amazon or the Samsung site and get hotspot or can I get hotspot on the Sprint one or do I need to search for the perfect app to do it? Which would be easier?
Unlocked version:
Hotspot - Awesome
Download Booster - Awesome
No Bloat - Awesome
Wi-Fi Calling - working awesomely
Sprint Version:
LTE Calling - I might miss, might be worth flashing Sprint mod when available...
Please Advise.
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I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
BlueFox721 said:
I am on Sprint and am currently utilizing what I posted above as working...I am still finding out other working options as well...ask me about an option and I'll tell you if it is working on the unlocked version.
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My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Torquemada288 said:
Sorry, I can't provide any guidance in this area. I'm in Australia and don't have experience with the inclusions/exclusions on specific American networks such as Sprint. I do know they use CDMA technology, which the Exynos SoC doesn't support.
Hopefully, one of the other enlightened souls on this forum can help you with this question.
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Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
AtlantaBB said:
My question is do I need to get the unlocked version for hot spot to work or will it work with the Sprint version?
Thanks for the heads up. I really appreciate it.
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The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
Oops...I forgot to mention that they may update more frequently or sooner
BlueFox721 said:
The Sprint Version will cut out the download booster and hot spot unless your plan includes it but include calling plus features which include their version of the Wi-Fi Calling and LTE Calling for surfing over calls....but we already have that with Wi-Fi calling...Sprint also has Bloat software such as VVM but I install Google Voice for voicmail...it is up to you...at this point I have found no function lost.
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That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
AtlantaBB said:
That is extremely important. Do I have this right? If I buy the unlocked version. Can I surf the internet while on the phone with the unlocked version from Amazon or Samsung or do I need to buy the Spring Version?
Am I understanding that right or did you mean something else?
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When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
BlueFox721 said:
When I called my wife on Wi-Fi Calling i was able to surf the web as well...I'll double check tomorrow when she is awake though
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Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
Agenesis said:
I have the unlocked version arriving soon and I will be using it with sprint. (With the free 1 year promo)
AFIK only the sprint and unlocked versions are whitelisted to work on sprint. Any other snapdragon models you will need to request a manual request to add your IMEI to the sprint database.
And I believe the Exynos models isn't compatible with CDMA at all, something with licensing or patent issues with Qualcomm.
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So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
AtlantaBB said:
Oh I mean not on wifi - calling I am just talking about 4G LTE. I mean I have the note 3 right now. LOL. I know super old. I can talk on the cell network 4G LTE and surf the internet at the same time. Can you do that with the Unlocked Version and the Sprint Version or one or the other?
So the one from Amazon or Samsung, you should be fine, Yes the Exyons wont work. That is a bummer.
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
BlueFox721 said:
Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
AtlantaBB said:
Are you serious. I will be giving up call over data? WHY? Is this like that for Verizon and AT&T? Have they all lost call over data or do they just not want you to be able to do it?
Should I keep my Note 3 for that very reason?
Does any phone like the S8 or S8 Plus have call over data?
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https://www.androidcentral.com/volte
I am coming from Note 3 as well
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Since the Note 3 call over data was lost...so they have been trying to implement it in New technologies
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Oh my goodness, looks like my note 3 has two antennas and the newer phones have only 1. that is why i can do both. Why would they make the service worse?
https://community.sprint.com/t5/Buz...e-same-time-with-Sprint-s-Calling/ba-p/961338
The Note 8 wipes the Note 3 out

Getting a Note 8 today and wanted to ask something

Which would you guys say is better, tmob will still do the bogo today if I get it or I can just go to best buy and get the unlocked one? So two notes or one note that I can properly root.
RiffyDivine said:
Which would you guys say is better, tmob will still do the bogo today if I get it or I can just go to best buy and get the unlocked one? So two notes or one note that I can properly root.
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i might be wrong as i live in the UK, but an unlocked one from best buy will be no better off to root than the tmobile one?
the "unlocked" does not mean the bootloader is unlocked
both are snapdragon correct? There is a root available but i would recommend you buy an N950F or FD (Exynos) if your main focus is root and custom roms.
Lucky you! I would get just one
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i might be wrong as i live in the UK, but an unlocked one from best buy will be no better off to root than the tmobile one?
the "unlocked" does not mean the bootloader is unlocked
both are snapdragon correct? There is a root available but i would recommend you buy an N950F or FD (Exynos) if your main focus is root and custom roms.
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It's listed with the exynos but that maybe an error on their site.
First of all BOGO deal has some restrictions, not every plan qualifies, you should really read fine print, or head to Tmo forum and look there for details. I also don't think BB would be selling phone that doesn't work on half of US networks, so make sure you make your decisions based on correct info.
T mobile has a lot of stipulations with the BOGO. I purchased a t mobile variant directly from Samsung. They have a finance program 0% for 24 months. I also had a note 7 so I was able to get a nice discount as well. I almost went with an unlocked from Samsung(same as best buy) but I wanted all my carrier features. Plus since I bought the phone from Samsung, I was able to SIM unlock my t mobile note 8 within days of receiving it. Plus if I really wanted, I could always flash the unlocked firmware on to this device if I wanted it De bloated which I might end up doing. I use video calling a lot with my family and it doesn't worked on the Unlocked firmware but I recently started using google DUO which is way better video calling quality anyway. I know using t mobile on the unlocked firmware, WI fi calling, VOLTE hd voice does work which is the most important to me. I'm pretty sure mobile hotspot works as well but not sure.
RiffyDivine said:
Which would you guys say is better, tmob will still do the bogo today if I get it or I can just go to best buy and get the unlocked one? So two notes or one note that I can properly root.
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You have to jump through hoops for T-Mobile's BOGO, if you can wait Samsung will have a BOGO for the Note 8 just like they did for the S8+ and you won't have to add a line like the T-Mobile.

Suggest a Worthy Replacement for my Note 9

I should have foreseen this, but I'm tired of being stuck on a locked bootloader. I want to change devices once again.
Verizon is my carrier. I've got the unlocked 128GB Snapdragon Note 9 (960U1). I can probably sell it for ~$500.
Is there anything with comparable specs that I could pick up for around $500? I would prefer something with a bootloader that can be unlocked. Thanks!
Why do you want to root it?
I just ordered a OnePlus 7 Pro with 12gb ram to replace my note 9
GeeAyeZee said:
I just ordered a OnePlus 7 Pro with 12gb ram to replace my note 9
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That would more than replace it but don't know about battery life
PiArc said:
I should have foreseen this, but I'm tired of being stuck on a locked bootloader. I want to change devices once again.
Verizon is my carrier. I've got the unlocked 128GB Snapdragon Note 9 (960U1). I can probably sell it for ~$500.
Is there anything with comparable specs that I could pick up for around $500? I would prefer something with a bootloader that can be unlocked. Thanks!
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buy a second hand n960f
https://www.ebay.com/itm/OPEN-BOX-S...1eeccf7337:m:mcEH7AAnZQx_9FBix8OEYXA&LH_BIN=1
problem solved.
bober10113 said:
buy a second hand n960f
https://www.ebay.com/itm/OPEN-BOX-S...1eeccf7337:m:mcEH7AAnZQx_9FBix8OEYXA&LH_BIN=1
problem solved.
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I dont think the exynos supports CDMA, or did verizon finally come out of the stone ages and go GSM lol?
force70 said:
I dont think the exynos supports CDMA, or did verizon finally come out of the stone ages and go GSM lol?
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ure completely right.
"looks for another ebay link, this time for an N9600"
lol
but maybe OP should come to reason and switch to a GSM provider regardless...
bober10113 said:
ure completely right.
"looks for another ebay link, this time for an N9600"
lol
but maybe OP should come to reason and switch to a GSM provider regardless...
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I get one right here and there lol.
He really doesnt have a ton of options on cdma though your absolutely right.

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