So, I was paging through the settings on the X at a store and noticed something I haven't yet seen mentioned - the ability for the device to remain on so long as the user continued to look at the screen. Additionally, you could have the screen shut off and lock more quickly than normal if the user looked away from the device. How is this working for you all?
floepie said:
So, I was paging through the settings on the X at a store and noticed something I haven't yet seen mentioned - the ability for the device to remain on so long as the user continued to look at the screen. Additionally, you could have the screen shut off and lock more quickly than normal if the user looked away from the device. How is this working for you all?
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it actually works. like I looked away, and when I looked back, my screen turned dim (about to turn off) but it saw I was looking at it and undimmed itself. pretty cool to me
Yes, works pretty fine for me too [emoji4]
I read about this, I believe it's referred to as "Attentive Display". If i'm not wrong it uses the IR sensors as opposed to the front camera like some other manufacturers. Great to know it works!
If yuo use the training guide, you see the funcion.
It seems to use the front camera to see your face.
It works good in many condition, not during night.
Is this feature on by default? It would seem that using the camera at all times would spend a bit of energy.
I believe it uses the IR sensors rather than the camera. Reason being that I've compared my battery life with the feature turned on and off, and there's no difference to speak of. Having the camera on to track your face would consume a fair amount of battery and would've shown up in Settings>Battery as well.
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I believe it uses the IR sensors rather than the camera. Reason being that I've compared my battery life with the feature turned on and off, and there's no difference to speak of. Having the camera on to track your face would consume a fair amount of battery and would've shown up in Settings>Battery as well.
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If so, there would be no difference in performance in the dark, which contradicts the above poster's story.
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If so, there would be no difference in performance in the dark, which contradicts the above poster's story.
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tbh, its pretty hit and miss most of the time. Even the Moto demo requires your head to be at a particular position vis a vis the screen for it to show up as a detect. I'd still maintain its the sensors, but I could very well be incorrect.
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So I'm debating RMA's the N7 I have with Google Play. I have a slight screen raise (this doesn't bother me too much) as well as screen flicker that I notice in low lighting situations (mostly in chrome and maps).
Does anyone NOT have screen flicker? Or is this a software issue?
Does anyone NOT have the slight screen raise?
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So I'm debating RMA's the N7 I have with Google Play. I have a slight screen raise (this doesn't bother me too much) as well as screen flicker that I notice in low lighting situations (mostly in chrome and maps).
Does anyone NOT have screen flicker? Or is this a software issue?
Does anyone NOT have the slight screen raise?
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Hey, I believe the screen flicker is due to the auto brightness function of the device.
I personally don't like auto brightness at all, try turning it off in the brightness menu and see if you still get that.
I see the flicker quite often with devices having that function turned on.
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Hey, I believe the screen flicker is due to the auto brightness function of the device.
I personally don't like auto brightness at all, try turning it off in the brightness menu and see if you still get that.
I see the flicker quite often with devices having that function turned on.
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Hmmmm well I guess the only thing I have to compare it to is my iPhone 4 which doesn't do this.
My eyes are usually sensitive enough to be annoyed by screen flicker in any respect. Certainly with overhead CFL lighting.
My 16GB Nexus 7 (2 days in my posession now) doe snot exhibit any sort of screen flicker whatsoever. This is in comparison side by side with my HTC Desire HD which also does not flicker.
The display actually has a very high quality feeling which I like.
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My eyes are usually sensitive enough to be annoyed by screen flicker in any respect. Certainly with overhead CFL lighting.
My 16GB Nexus 7 (2 days in my posession now) doe snot exhibit any sort of screen flicker whatsoever. This is in comparison side by side with my HTC Desire HD which also does not flicker.
The display actually has a very high quality feeling which I like.
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Thanks for the feedback. So even in low lighting conditions, with auto brightness set to on, and scrolling around in chrome / maps, you screen never flickers or sort of rapidly dims?
I've noticed it. Only on white web pages or books. Very slight. I had two HTC One Xs that both had it. Its a Tegra issue and doubt we will see a fix. Gutted.
Its not the whole screen. Noticeable around text especially. Some weird refresh prob. Left side of my screen is also slightly raised. Not happy.
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I've noticed it. Only on white web pages or books. Very slight. I had two HTC One Xs that both had it. Its a Tegra issue and doubt we will see a fix. Gutted.
Its not the whole screen. Noticeable around text especially. Some weird refresh prob. Left side of my screen is also slightly raised. Not happy.
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I definitely get it on the whole screen, maybe for a second or 2. Might do it 2-3 times per day at most.
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Happened to me, I just turned the auto brightness off and t was fine. Try it, it works.
I keep auto brightness disabled and I haven't noticed the flicker that I can remember but tonight I'll try to reproduce and check it both ways.
I disable auto brightness and use this app which is actually a widget. It allows you to UAW any edge on the screen as an invisible or barely visible slider for brightness. It allows for incremental 1% changes on a slider instead of the typical button/toggle widget and its always enabled if you set it that way which allows on the go ease of use no matter what app or screen is open.
Its helped me attain amazing battery life and always have quick access for setting it just right.
Play store - Display Brightness by RubberBigPepper
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.DisplayBrightness
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Neither issue here.
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No flicker......no raised screen.
No flicker here. Although I agree with disabling auto brightness, not a fan of the effect that can sometime have.
just recieved 2 nexus 7's today, so far my one (16gb) is PERFTCY *touches wood* this thing is so awsome!! not a thing wrong with it and was shipped from USA to south africa... My dads one on (8gb) the other hand had a raised screen on the left which he has absolutely no worries with its not that bad, but so far we loving this devices ))
Why a separate thread? There's already a long one on it that'll answer most of your questions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29329145
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Why a separate thread? There's already a long one on it that'll answer most of your questions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29329145
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I understand that - I'm trying to gauge whether or not it affects ALL N7's, or is a defect.
Google Play is shipping me a replacement N7 to address the screen raise on my current one, and I want to make sure the replacement is 100% A-OK.
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I understand that - I'm trying to gauge whether or not it affects ALL N7's, or is a defect.
Google Play is shipping me a replacement N7 to address the screen raise on my current one, and I want to make sure the replacement is 100% A-OK.
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Make a poll if you're trying to do that.... But yes, I see flicker too, but only at very low backlight levels and seems to be when wifi is active. I haven't tested to see if it's just wifi, or wifi causing other things (disk activity, etc), but this is the general consensus so far in the other thread.
strange quirk with active notifications.
1) notifications light up using select few pixels (GOOD)
2) notifications fade out and go away completely (GOOD)
3) all pixels light up very dim for a second (KINDA ODD)
You have to have the lights off in your room for you to notice it really.
Check it out...
Mine doesn't do that in a pitch black room.
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matt87n said:
strange quirk with active notifications.
1) notifications light up using select few pixels (GOOD)
2) notifications fade out and go away completely (GOOD)
3) all pixels light up very dim for a second (KINDA ODD)
You have to have the lights off in your room for you to notice it really.
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you have the beginnings of the universe!
nah, you should get that replaced.
i forgot to mention im still running 4.2 in Canada..
Rhiannon224 said:
Mine doesn't do that in a pitch black room.
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its super super dim and hard to catch if u dont OCD over things like i do.. lol
call motorola, they might be able to get your a replacement, if you havent rooted and unlocked bootloader
oh man, seriously nobody else has this going on? its such a small bug and seems fixable.. i dont wanna send back my motooo!
gonna try n reset the phone to see what happens.. my expectations are near nil though.. anyone else with this strange issue?
Just tried in a pitch black room. Saw nothing after the active display time faded out.
The whole screen flickers gray right? I'm on a Rogers X. Mine does that.
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Just for giggles, I checked out my phone and two coworkers phones and none of them do it. Two AT&T, one Verizon.
Yeah, I don't think that's normal. The whole reason Active Notifications doesn't annihilate your battery life is because only the pixels that need power, get power. That's how AMOLED works. You can turn off each individual pixel. Which is why you don't see something like Active Notifications on phones with an IPS panel such as the Nexus 5. IPS works by lighting a giant backlight, and the pixels act something like shutters, opening and closing as needed. Of course it's more technical than that, but in layman's terms, that's how you can think of it.
So yeah. Something's up. Those pixels should not be lighting up on an AMOLED display. If it were an IPS, that would be normal.
Two Rogers phones here, neither do that.(I am running 4.4 though)
My VZW MM doesn't do that. Seems strage, as it's a big selling point for the phone that it only lights the pixels you need.
i have the same problem, im on 4.2.2, i will take it to motorola
Hayaku said:
The whole screen flickers gray right? I'm on a Rogers X. Mine does that.
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YA! a Rogers phone running 4.2 still.. i did a reset but it didnt help
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Yeah, I don't think that's normal. The whole reason Active Notifications doesn't annihilate your battery life is because only the pixels that need power, get power. That's how AMOLED works. You can turn off each individual pixel. Which is why you don't see something like Active Notifications on phones with an IPS panel such as the Nexus 5. IPS works by lighting a giant backlight, and the pixels act something like shutters, opening and closing as needed. Of course it's more technical than that, but in layman's terms, that's how you can think of it.
So yeah. Something's up. Those pixels should not be lighting up on an AMOLED display. If it were an IPS, that would be normal.
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thanks for the explanation! cant wait for OLEDs to be ubiquitous.. wonder what comes after OLED, or is it the final frontier for active matrix
Since its a problem that only I would notice, and only in the darkest of rooms, I Dont want to go thru the hassle of explaining to the poor guys at the Rogers store why I want to exchange the phone. I'm wondering whether it may be a software related thing... What's the best way to reset the software besides deleting all data.. Is there a way to get down deeper and scrub it clean?
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Since its a problem that only I would notice, and only in the darkest of rooms, I Dont want to go thru the hassle of explaining to the poor guys at the Rogers store why I want to exchange the phone. I'm wondering whether it may be a software related thing... What's the best way to reset the software besides deleting all data.. Is there a way to get down deeper and scrub it clean?
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Well, it's most likely just a software bug in the Rogers 4.2 rom. As the others who are not on Rogers do not have this issue, your best bet is probably to upgrade to the T-Mobile 4.4 ROM, which is what I'm running (I'm also with Rogers).
EDIT: Just noticed someone had said that they had Rogers phones that didn't have the issue... I say proceed with caution. You can try reflashing the Rogers stock firmware from the internet, see if that clears it up?
I've had 4 Moto X's. They all did this. It doesn't impact battery enough for me to worry about it. It may be the backlight or something though I admit I know very little about how SAMOLED works.
I think is happening is that there's some code in there that's telling the transistors to discharge throughout the matrix instead (which explains why the whole screen is dim for a second) which helps with reducing the amount of wear on individual parts of the screen (the notification icons itself). If someone can compare the ActiveNotification between 4.2.2 and 4.4, that would be nice.
Debating if I should get the watch or not, like to see some of feedback / reviews on your thoughts on those who own the wacth. I also been looking at the thread about battery life and other things, but overall do you feel like the watch is worth it?
Planning at stopping at AT&T to see if they have on on display for me to fiddle around with.
Love it. I'm not a watch person. Can't stand them but this has made me love them. It is a novelty but it is handy also
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do you feel like the watch is worth it?
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Absolutely. It is far from perfect BUT, the hardware side it's excellent implemented and this is offering Google Wear plaftform a solid base to grow. I expect to see may OTA's in the futures with fine tuning of some of the existing features and also with new stuff .
It is by far the best looking Android wear device.
From its exterior design it's not very perfect i.e. thick bezel, small screen compared to 360 but when I count every aspect including SoC, Sensors, Screen technology, build quality, etc, G Watch R is the best choice so far(except the expensive price).
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Love it. I'm not a watch person. Can't stand them but this has made me love them. It is a novelty but it is handy also
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Absolutely. It is far from perfect BUT, the hardware side it's excellent implemented and this is offering Google Wear plaftform a solid base to grow. I expect to see may OTA's in the futures with fine tuning of some of the existing features and also with new stuff .
It is by far the best looking Android wear device.
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Thank you for the feedback!
its to small
When it first arrived I noticed that the screen was much larger than it looked online - perhaps all of the side-by-side comparisons with the Moto 360 made it look tiny, but it's actually a decent size. The battery life was impressive after the system update that comes about 10 minutes after first setup.
I mainly use it for changing my songs while I'm out and about. You don't realise just how much of a pain it is to take your phone out on the bus etc to switch songs, but having a few taps of the watch is such a convenience.
The only flaw I've noticed with the watch is when, for example, you switch both your watch and phone off in the night, and wake up and switch your watch on *first*... it basically shows the time that appeared on the watch when you switched it off! e.g. if I turn it off at midnight, then in the morning it'll show midnight when I switch the watch back on. I have to sync it with my phone again for the watch to acquire the correct time again. Not a big deal, and I assume it would get fixed eventually, but still...
I never turn mine off. Just stick it on charge over night.
I saw a few articles so I did the process. It's been a day but maybe it will take a few days maybe to see. I downloaded a terminal emulator app, ran some commands and it seemed to change the resolution.
1. Scaling looks bad
2. There are issues with recents view
3. Didn't see any difference in battery life.
IMO not worth it.
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1. Scaling looks bad
2. There are issues with recents view
3. Didn't see any difference in battery life.
IMO not worth it.
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So far I don't see any difference in battery life either. If the screen brightness is the same then it's using the same amount of energy for lighting. I suppose processing is less but unless you're running an app that wants to control greater than 1080p there probably is no difference in processing either. I'll change it back in a few days unless something wonderful happens
Thanks for the input
I tried an app that doesn't lower the resolution but it does let you control disabling how many pixels on the display are active. I dropped it to 50% and saw improved battery life without too much of a loss on the display.
Google play link
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=screen.dimmer.pixelfilter
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I tried an app that doesn't lower the resolution but it does let you control disabling how many pixels on the display are active. I dropped it to 50% and saw improved battery life without too much of a loss on the display.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=screen.dimmer.pixelfilter
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Oh wow that's interesting. I wonder if it just looks like it's a little dimmer
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Oh wow that's interesting. I wonder if it just looks like it's a little dimmer
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Reason I went with the app is even though the resolution is at 1080p all pixels are still hiring. So it doesn't do any good. I never saw any improvement in battery improvement at 1080
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I tried everything, but I never saw any change in battery life. Neither brightness, resolution, kernels, custom roms, underclocking nor disabling apps.....none of it has any influence, once the device is in use battery drops just as fast no matter what I do.
If it wasnt for the cheap price I payed and the rest of the device still being competitive Id already gotten rid of the N6 just for that fact.
From new I barely managed a day with normal use.
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I tried everything, but I never saw any change in battery life. Neither brightness, resolution, kernels, custom roms, underclocking nor disabling apps.....none of it has any influence, once the device is in use battery drops just as fast no matter what I do.
If it wasnt for the cheap price I payed and the rest of the device still being competitive Id already gotten rid of the N6 just for that fact.
From new I barely managed a day with normal use.
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Yeah, I got mine 2 years ago for $190 so I've gotten my use out of it. I'm thinking of the Mate 9. I see some used ones under $300. So far the N6 goes a full day and still runs fine for now.
Dear Friends ,
Do this smartphone have the led notification like pixel 2xl ?
No, there is no notification LED
Looks like AOD for now...
That's already more than OP can say ?
That's something I'd really miss about my Pixel 2 XL.
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Looks like AOD for now...
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That really sucks since AOD uses a lot more battery. If basically causes the phone to burn an additional 1% per hour when in stand by.
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That's something I'd really miss about my Pixel 2 XL.
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That really sucks since AOD uses a lot more battery. If basically causes the phone to burn an additional 1% per hour when in stand by.
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WHich they have managed on the Pixel 4 with motion sense. If it detects you move away from phone it turns of AOD to save battery
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WHich they have managed on the Pixel 4 with motion sense. If it detects you move away from phone it turns of AOD to save battery
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Exactly. Pretty sure Google thought of everything on this device. The software may need some tuning, but that's it. The framework is solid
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WHich they have managed on the Pixel 4 with motion sense. If it detects you move away from phone it turns of AOD to save battery
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That may be true. Although we still don't know how much power the motion sense sensor uses. The motion sense senor is basically radar. It's sending out radio waves and detecting what comes back. That takes power too. It's possible that the motion sense sensor always running will use just as much battery than AOD does. It could even use MORE battery than AOD.
Hi guys ,
It's only a my opinion ,
but pay for pixel 3xl and 4xl 900 / 1000 euro and missing led notification , It's a big problem , I love that small light.
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Pretty sure Google thought of everything on this device.
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LOL! I agree with most of what I've seen you post, but this? C'mon. Google consistently misses things when their phones are first released. Google routinely does not think of everything, at least not at first launch anyway. Often times they only seem to be aware of issues after hundred of users report on it.
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LOL! I agree with most of what I've seen you post, but this? C'mon. Google consistently misses things when their phones are first released. Google routinely does not think of everything, at least not at first launch anyway. Often times they only seem to be aware of issues after hundred of users report on it.
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I loled when i read that to. I was just telling my friend who works at Verizon and is trying to get me to upgrade that ill wait till people get it in hand as pixels are known to have phone breaking bugs at launch lol
I go through a lot of phones and all had problems, some of them never got fixed. I'm doubtful this phone will be any different than every phone before it in that regard. AOD uses power, no lie, I like it so I leave it on. Turning it off is no answer, I get that. What I don't get is turning off all the cool features a phone has to save batt when charging is everywhere, it's quick, and portable supplies are cheap, work well, and will get you through a pinch. This phone will likely have 4 or more hours without skimping on anything. To me the win is playing with the toys I bought, not gimping them to save battery life which can be easily and well covered.
This isn't a call out BTW, I just don't understand the thought process.
having an LED notification light is better than not having one. There's plenty of room. The Pixel 4 has a lower screen to body ratio than the S8. And while the S8 has an annoying curved screen, it has an LED notification light. It can coexist with an AOD. You can turn one off and use the other. Just like the headphone jack argument IMO. And the LED notification light is just so useful. It's a shame that app that lets you customise it got neutered by Google's updates to Android.
Oh and it sucks that there isn't an SD card either. It makes sense to companies as they can push paid cloud storage but not to customers.
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Oh and it sucks that there isn't an SD card either. It makes sense to companies as they can push paid cloud storage but not to customers.
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Doesn't make sense to add as card support, as this still is a hack - as has been on Linux based systems for years - and thus a security risk. It actually doesn't make any sense to add a hack to my system. Just my 2 cents.
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That may be true. Although we still don't know how much power the motion sense sensor uses. The motion sense senor is basically radar. It's sending out radio waves and detecting what comes back. That takes power too. It's possible that the motion sense sensor always running will use just as much battery than AOD does. It could even use MORE battery than AOD.
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I don't think there motion sensor uses much power at all. I fully charged me phone before I went to bed last night and left it off the charger overnight. It only used 4% battery over 9 hours.
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I don't think there motion sensor uses much power at all. I fully charged me phone before I went to bed last night and left it off the charger overnight. It only used 4% battery over 9 hours.
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Well that's good news. That stand by time is better than I thought it would be with the radar sensor but still not what I got from my Pixel 2 XL when it was new. I dropped about 2-3% over 8 hours. Even now after 2 years I still only see about 4% over 8 hours.