Is there a way to unlock bootloader without getting the code from moto website because they track all the unlock codes which they give..
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Is it possible now? Like via 3th party middleman?
hamtar0 said:
Is it possible now? Like via 3th party middleman?
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For the Moto G 2013, yes. See http://theroot.ninja/ Must be running 4.4.3 or earlier.
For the Moto G 2014, no, but you can try it if your running 4.4.3 or earlier.
Frankly, if Motorola lets you unlock the phone then count yourself lucky, as many of the Moto G's out there
are carrier-bootloader restricted and will never be unlockable unless enough people scream at the FCC.
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For the Moto G 2013, yes. See http://theroot.ninja/ Must be running 4.4.3 or earlier.
For the Moto G 2014, no, but you can try it if your running 4.4.3 or earlier.
Frankly, if Motorola lets you unlock the phone then count yourself lucky, as many of the Moto G's out there
are carrier-bootloader restricted and will never be unlockable unless enough people scream at the FCC.
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Carrier locked even when purchased directly from Motorola?
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Carrier locked even when purchased directly from Motorola?
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Carrier locked phones are purchased from carriers
Android The Greek said:
Carrier locked phones are purchased from carriers
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OK let me be as clear as I can on my wording:
"carrier locking" is slang for 2 ways carriers have of locking phones. First is network locking. Second is bootloader locking.
Network locking means you can't walk into Walmart and buy a Boost Moto G Prepaid phone for $60 and
then replace the SIM card with your ATT Mobile card and start using it. You will have to obtain a network unlock
code from Boost. In the United States the FCC mandated last year that all cell carriers must permit network
unlocking after the subsidized price of the phone was paid for. (generally a year) You will generally have to supply the MEID
or IMEI of the phone to the carrier, and the carrier won't network unlock phones that were reported stolen to
them or where the owner is owning money. There are companies on the Internet that claim to supply unlock
codes, some for free, some they charge. YMMV. There's hardware unlock code calculators you can buy for
a couple hundred bucks. Typically, network unlocking is more important for GSM phones (or phones that are
dual GSM/CDMA) since even in the United States, few cell carriers use CDMA, so a network unlocked Moto G
that is CDMA is kind of a mental exercise more than anything else.
Bootloader locking was dreamed up to prevent evil crackers from writing viruses and such that will get on your
phone and hijack it for some nefarious purpose. Basically all Moto G's are sold with locked bootloaders no
matter who you buy them from. Unfortunately, bootloader locking is being abused by many carriers to
prevent people from booting unsigned code on their own phones. (ie: rooted phones) I don't know about Boost but I do know
Verizon makes Motorola lock the bootloaders of all phones that Verizon buys to sell through the Verizon
store, and through places like Walmart, etc. and will not allow Motorola to unlock bootloaders.
In the United States most people buy carrier subsidized phones from retail stores for under $100 because most
of them don't understand that paying an extra $20 a month for 2 years is more expensive than saving
$200 on a cell phone.
For the price of this phone, . I don't see why people don't just buy straight from Moto and just get the code from them. I got both a Moto X 2013 and the Moto G 2014 from Moto directly. Best experience ever
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Hi.
I'm going abroad on Jan 1 for 12 months and want to get the GSM version Moto X to bring it with me, but I don't know if this can be done.
The options are AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T requires 6 months usage before they unlock, and T-Mobile requires 40 days, of which the last 7 must be in the US. So these are not options.
I then read about various "unlock" services online, but don't know how reliable these are. What are the odds they can unlock my phone, either AT&T or T-Mobile? This link: http: //www .technobuffalo.com/2013/11/14/att-unlock-changes-putting-resellers-out-of-business/ for example claims that there was a change just 1-2 months ago so that it's virtually impossible to unlock AT&T for 3rd parties now. If I buy this phone, I need to be almost 100% certain it's possible to unlock it, or it's not worth taking the risk.
Finally, would it be possible to unlock the phone by rooting it? I understand the bootloader for the T-Mobile version can be unlocked, but have no idea if, and if so how, this helps me.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi.
I'm going abroad on Jan 1 for 12 months and want to get the GSM version Moto X to bring it with me, but I don't know if this can be done.
The options are AT&T and T-Mobile. AT&T requires 6 months usage before they unlock, and T-Mobile requires 40 days, of which the last 7 must be in the US. So these are not options.
I then read about various "unlock" services online, but don't know how reliable these are. What are the odds they can unlock my phone, either AT&T or T-Mobile? This link: http: //www .technobuffalo.com/2013/11/14/att-unlock-changes-putting-resellers-out-of-business/ for example claims that there was a change just 1-2 months ago so that it's virtually impossible to unlock AT&T for 3rd parties now. If I buy this phone, I need to be almost 100% certain it's possible to unlock it, or it's not worth taking the risk.
Finally, would it be possible to unlock the phone by rooting it? I understand the bootloader for the T-Mobile version can be unlocked, but have no idea if, and if so how, this helps me.
Thanks in advance.
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Many including me have unlocked their phones. I myself had the AT&T model. Sites such as cellunlocker, unlockcode247 get you the code within a couple of days 99% of the time. The 6 months/ 40 days usage only applies if you talk to the carrier CS for the code.
If you dont want to go that route, you could always get the T-Mobile version. Comes SIM unlocked OOTB. So does the DEV Ed.
Rooting does not unlock your phone. Unlocking the BL comes handy if you do a lot of flashing.
I know this doesn't answer your question (since the post above mine does) but the Nexus 5 and Moto G are two nice smartphones that come unlocked. N5 will run you 349, Moto G 179. No contract, unlocked. I prefer the Moto X, but if you want a 100% guarantee, buy an unlocked phone.
anirudh412 said:
Many including me have unlocked their phones. I myself had the AT&T model. Sites such as cellunlocker, unlockcode247 get you the code within a couple of days 99% of the time. The 6 months/ 40 days usage only applies if you talk to the carrier CS for the code.
If you dont want to go that route, you could always get the T-Mobile version. Comes SIM unlocked OOTB. So does the DEV Ed.
Rooting does not unlock your phone. Unlocking the BL comes handy if you do a lot of flashing.
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Thanks anirudh!
Are you saying that the T-Mobile Moto X without contract is NOT SIM locked to T-Mobile? It would be fantastic if that's the case. Is there an official source? I checked with Motorola a few days ago, and they told me that whatever phone I buy will be SIM locked to the operator, but they might be incorrect?
(Also, when did you unlock your AT&T phone? The article I linked says it became considerably more difficult/impossible just last month, which made me worried.)
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the Nexus 5 and Moto G are two nice smartphones that come unlocked. N5 will run you 349, Moto G 179. No contract, unlocked. I prefer the Moto X, but if you want a 100% guarantee, buy an unlocked phone.
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Thanks Bacon. Yeah, I'll fall back to the Nexus 5 if the Moto X doesn't work out.
mxx2 said:
Thanks anirudh!
Are you saying that the T-Mobile Moto X without contract is NOT SIM locked to T-Mobile? It would be fantastic if that's the case. Is there an official source? I checked with Motorola a few days ago, and they told me that whatever phone I buy will be SIM locked to the operator, but they might be incorrect?
(Also, when did you unlock your AT&T phone? The article I linked says it became considerably more difficult/impossible just last month, which made me worried.)
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Thanks Bacon. Yeah, I'll fall back to the Nexus 5 if the Moto X doesn't work out.
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Moto X WILL work out. Even though the N5 is a great phone, I hate the 'bigger is better' race we have going on today. Phones like watches are tools. They go everywhere you do. The X is so much more handy than the N5. Removing the Nav Bar and using LMT makes it even better. This is EXACTLY the phone I was looking to get for so many years.
As for unlocking, I got mine unlocked a week ago. So did plenty of others. There are several threads in the Q&A/ General section on this. If however, you dont want to go that route, get the Dev Edition which comes unlocked. Also the T-Mobile edition. And dont base your decision based on what the CS says. There dont know squat about the X. They told me theres no way T-Mobile BL can be unlocked.
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Thanks anirudh!
Are you saying that the T-Mobile Moto X without contract is NOT SIM locked to T-Mobile? It would be fantastic if that's the case. Is there an official source? I checked with Motorola a few days ago, and they told me that whatever phone I buy will be SIM locked to the operator, but they might be incorrect?
(Also, when did you unlock your AT&T phone? The article I linked says it became considerably more difficult/impossible just last month, which made me worried.)
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AFAIK, the Verizon and T-Mobile versions are SIM unlocked. The system version for the T-Mobile version is ghost_row.retail (not ghost_att.ATT or ghost_verizon.Verizon), so there's actually no carrier in the the system version. So, the T-Mobile variant is just a retail version of the phone that has all of the available US GSM bands unlocked. Obviously, some carrier specific LTE bands may not be available, like Verizon's upper 700MHz band 13. It does support AT&T's lower 700MHz band 17 LTE, and of course T-Mobile, Verizon's AWS band 4 LTE though.
I am getting ready to order a couple of X's for my wife and me. I have a couple of questions....
We are with at&t. Is there a difference between the at&t branded ones and the GSM dev models? I have Googled this, but I am still confused as to whether there are hardware differences which would make the dev model less useful on at&t and whether there is bloat on the at&t model....
We have a SG4 and an iPhone 5 which still under contract which we will keep as spares for the family. I assume that we can buy the X at&t branded through Moto Maker without a contract? and just stay on the plan?
Thank you. I have spent hours on this and I am still confused, probably because it keeps changing....
I would like to know to. I'm getting ready to buy a moto x also
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I am getting ready to order a couple of X's for my wife and me. I have a couple of questions....
We are with at&t. Is there a difference between the at&t branded ones and the GSM dev models? I have Googled this, but I am still confused as to whether there are hardware differences which would make the dev model less useful on at&t and whether there is bloat on the at&t model....
We have a SG4 and an iPhone 5 which still under contract which we will keep as spares for the family. I assume that we can buy the X at&t branded through Moto Maker without a contract? and just stay on the plan?
Thank you. I have spent hours on this and I am still confused, probably because it keeps changing....
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the developer edition are unlocked and u can unlock ur bootloader without losing ur warranty
being unlocked u can use with other carriers
if u buy at&t u can use only with at&t
if u want a phone that u can use with gsm carriers and with other carriers take or a developer edition or a unlockable one without contract
I got the T-Mobile unlockable (and unbranded!) version from Motomaker off-contract. Works great on AT&T and it beat paying the extra dough for a developer edition, since it's practically the same damn thing! (I also don't care about voiding warranty having unlocked my bootloader. I take care of my phone. If warranty is something you desire, then go dev edition or stick with your current carrier's version).
shkrmkr said:
I got the T-Mobile unlockable (and unbranded!) version from Motomaker off-contract. Works great on AT&T and it beat paying the extra dough for a developer edition, since it's practically the same damn thing! (I also don't care about voiding warranty having unlocked my bootloader. I take care of my phone. If warranty is something you desire, then go dev edition or stick with your current carrier's version).
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I'm pretty sure the developer edition is the same price as the moto maker version so it won't cost any "extra dough." And it doesn't matter how well you care for your phone. That's not what a warranty is for. It covers failures NOT caused by the user. You could wrap your phone in bubble wrap, never flash a third party app, and only use it under tightly controlled environmental conditions, insuring the phone is never exposed to any abuse, and a part could still fail, thus necessitating the use of the warranty. Which you voided by unlocking the boot loader on a non-developer edition.
You can pick either the AT&T branded one, the T-Mobile variant, or the unlocked. The T-mobile is actually unbranded, SIM unlocked and has no carrier apps.
I'm in the same boat still in contract with AT&T and purchased the T-Mobile one to leave my options open to switch to T-Mobile later and be able to purchase SIM cards for use abroad without having to fight the death star to get an unlock code.
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I'm pretty sure the developer edition is the same price as the moto maker version so it won't cost any "extra dough." And it doesn't matter how well you care for your phone. That's not what a warranty is for. It covers failures NOT caused by the user. You could wrap your phone in bubble wrap, never flash a third party app, and only use it under tightly controlled environmental conditions, insuring the phone is never exposed to any abuse, and a part could still fail, thus necessitating the use of the warranty. Which you voided by unlocking the boot loader on a non-developer edition.
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If I could've bought the developer version easily I certainly would have.
But to me...I'll risk the 400 bucks to unlock..root..etc. I have on every device I've owned. LOL. I need my customization, battery life control..etc etc.
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Buy the unlocked one. Works just fine with att. I'm in the middle of my contract and just had to go to a store and pick up a new sim
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i think it is a good mob
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Hi
I recently bought and at&t moto x from ebay. I live abroad so I needed to unlock it and I've done it for many of my previous phones. However whatever unlock service I try it doesn't seem to work. I've tried ebay, unlock247, cellfservices & Unlockonline. None of them can find the code.
I contacted the seller, who was really nice and said He will refund me if I send it back. However that's really not feasible. He tried contacting At&t directly but they wouldn't do. The reason being the phone was given to his company directly by motorola. They develop software for android and iOS. So at&t said that they can't give the unlock code and we needed to contact motorola directly. But motorola is saying that carriers always provide the code. What do I do in these cases? Any possible way to unlock this? I don't want this to be a $300 brick or ipod :|
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Hi
I recently bought and at&t moto x from ebay. I live abroad so I needed to unlock it and I've done it for many of my previous phones. However whatever unlock service I try it doesn't seem to work. I've tried ebay, unlock247, cellfservices & Unlockonline. None of them can find the code.
I contacted the seller, who was really nice and said He will refund me if I send it back. However that's really not feasible. He tried contacting At&t directly but they wouldn't do. The reason being the phone was given to his company directly by motorola. They develop software for android and iOS. So at&t said that they can't give the unlock code and we needed to contact motorola directly. But motorola is saying that carriers always provide the code. What do I do in these cases? Any possible way to unlock this? I don't want this to be a $300 brick or ipod :|
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We haven't found a sim-unlock 'exploit' yet. As I understand it, AT&T will only sim-unlock devices that have been active on an account for a certain amount of time and meet certain criteria. Moto cannot provide you with the code, that is correct.
I thought the AT&T variant was already sim-unlocked for international use and only locked for domestic use though....
Could you trade it for the XT1053 (T-Mobile variant), which comes SIM-Unlocked?
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We haven't found a sim-unlock 'exploit' yet. As I understand it, AT&T will only sim-unlock devices that have been active on an account for a certain amount of time and meet certain criteria. Moto cannot provide you with the code, that is correct.
I thought the AT&T variant was already sim-unlocked for international use and only locked for domestic use though....
Could you trade it for the XT1053 (T-Mobile variant), which comes SIM-Unlocked?
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No at&t is locked internationally as well. The subscriber is in good standing, but like I said the phone was provided by motorola to the seller's company. That's why at&t won't unlock it. What I don't understand is why I can't get the unlock code from the 3rd party services. Any particular one I could try?
So I tried to contact the seller
He said he talked to at&t, but at&t said that they can't provide the code and that he needed to talk to motorola directly. The phone was provided to the sellers company by Motorola for field testing and such. He thought it's a bad idea to contact motorola asking for an unlock. So talked to motorola regarding the phone and they kept saying that the carrier is the one to provide the code. I even called up at&t today and they said the won't do anything unless I provide the IMEI & phone number and SSN.
I live in Bangladesh and I really feel powerless at the moment. I don't want to have a $350 brick :|
I liked Cyan on my old Droid X but it looks like from a quick glance at the Guides and Tips page that I won't be able to even do a Clockwork Recovery let alone a new modded OS like Cyanogenmod.
Did I read that right? Assuming so, is there anything evil I can do to this phone?
You are on Verizon, so your bootloader can't be unlocked at the Moto site. You can try Sunshine for $25. That's your only hope.
And I'll ask your question be moved to the Q&A section. ?
Thx. How odd they'd lock it then charge $25 to unlock it-- that seems so Apple-esque. I bought this phone used, so I'm unlikely to throw much more money at it, but it's nice to have the option.
Shux.
JZLxxx said:
Thx. How odd they'd lock it then charge $25 to unlock it-- that seems so Apple-esque. I bought this phone used, so I'm unlikely to throw much more money at it, but it's nice to have the option.
Shux.
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I think you misunderstand. The $25 unlock is a third-party exploit developed by JCase and a number of other talented developers. If you are on VZW, that is the only way to unlock, but it is far from official. Plus, it rarely works on 4.4.4 for the Moto X. I think most people would be ok if VZW offered a reasonable priced paid unlock, but I doubt we ever see that.
What did you expect after buying a locked phone on Verizon? If you value rooting, look into buying phones with easily unlockable bootloaders. Folks are lucky to have sunshine as it is
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Ah, I didn't realize it was a 3rd party thing.
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What did you expect after buying a locked phone on Verizon? If you value rooting, look into buying phones with easily unlockable bootloaders. Folks are lucky to have sunshine as it is
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I didn't research it much, but I was a little confuzzled by a webpage that led me to think I could (A person needs 10 posts to insert a link?). I was able to put Cyan on my VZW Droid X, e.g.
Was that supposed to be helpful?
JZLxxx said:
I didn't research it much, but I was a little confuzzled by a webpage that led me to think I could (A person needs 10 posts to insert a link?). I was able to put Cyan on my VZW Droid X, e.g.
Was that supposed to be helpful?
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A little history...
The Verizon XT1060 has always shipped with a locked bootloader. This prevents flashing ROMs or Parts (like custom recovery) from being flashed to the phone. Only Roms signed by Moto and intended for that model and carrier can be flashed.
A Developer Edition For Verizon Moto X was available from Moto's web site only. For that device, Moto would give out the bootloader unlock code. Once unlocked, you could flash 3rd party roms and parts. With the Dev Edition, you did not void your warranty while doing this.
Verizon stores and Moto's Moto Maker web site also sold the X for Verizon, but for these not Developer Editions, you could NOT get the BootLoader Unlock code.
Later, someone was able to gain access to a database of IMEI numbers and their BootLoader Unlock codes, even for Verizon Non-Dev Editions and started selling them via a China web site, and later Middle Man. While it went away for a little over a month, it later came back. It has recently shut down again.
JCASE and others had found a vulnerability they could exploit to unlock the bootloader, no unlock code needed. Its called Sunshine. But it only works on phones which haven't even been upgraded to 4.4.4.
So depending on what you read, it could be "dated" and written at a time where you could have purchased the bootloader unlock code from the China Website or Middleman.
Hello,
Thinking of buying a 2014 moto X from AT&T. I have been reading and searching for an hour, but cannot find the definitive and latest answer to these questions. So I thought I'd just ask.
My apologies if this is well known information.
1) Has anybody managed to unlock the ATT XT1097 bootloader? (There is a thread about bootloader unlocking but I don't think it mentions AT&T)
2) Is there a known method for SIM unlock?
Thank you very much
Gonzalo
You can unlock the bootloader or the XT1095 and XT1097 trough the same method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/development/root-root-moto-x-2014-android-5-0-t2941388
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I have the ATT version, and no you cannot unlock bootloader, and they are sim free, at least mine is sim unlocked.
Don't purchase the "branded" device, purchase the "Pure Edition" then go to AT&T..or any provider you wish, (except) for "Big Red"..
If the offer of a cheap priced device is what's appealing, Wait and save up, don't allow the carriers to get the strangle hold on you.!!
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yunior597 said:
I have the ATT version, and no you cannot unlock bootloader, and they are sim free, at least mine is sim unlocked.
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Thank you. That's what I wanted to know.
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Don't purchase the "branded" device, purchase the "Pure Edition" then go to AT&T..or any provider you wish, (except) for "Big Red"..
If the offer of a cheap priced device is what's appealing, Wait and save up, don't allow the carriers to get the strangle hold on you.!!
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I fully agree. I never buy anything branded, all my phones are Nexus.
The reason I ask is because my company has a corporate agreement with ATT, (they pay for my cell phone line). I use the ATT SIM with my Nexus 5, but because of that corporate agreement I am entitled to buy a Moto X for $ 99 or a Nexus 6 for $ 249. I was thinking of taking advantage of that possibility, but the Nexus 6 is too big for me, and the Moto X I would buy it for $99 only if I could convert it to a SIM unlocked Pure version.