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A REAL droid 3 petition

If you're looking for something to ask motorola that will make our phones better, is possible for them to do and is almost somewhat expected (I keep thinking about how they say they're striving to work with the rom development community ...) feel free to post your thoughts for motorola here. An unlocked bootloader would allow us to run a custom kernel on our phones, I imagine CM9 would be up within days of motorola offering a bootloader unlock solution!!

Excellent point! I think begging for an early upgrade is silly, but asking for an unlocked bootloader would make our phones that much better. I would rather have a D3 with lots of Dev support, than a locked down D4. I came from a droid Incredible and the Dev support was great, and it breathed life into a phone that was somewhat dated.
Dear Moto, please unlock the bootloader.
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Willis111 said:
I imagine CM9 would be up within days of motorola offering a bootloader unlock solution!!
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Running CM9 now... only real issues are Camera, B key not working on keyboard, and the data being somewhat flaky for people, although it works fine once you get it going. Just be patient, we have great devs and don't really need an unlock. It would be nice though.

Motorola is okay with unlocking the bootloader from what I've heard but Verizon doesn't want it. From locked bootloaders to forced bloatware to removing Google Wallet from the Nexus, its clear that Verizon just loves to screw with Android. When are they going to learn the most people only want to use your network, we could care less about anything you have to offer.

I would sign that petition
xt860, android 2.3.5, Eclipse 1.1.1

I'd be happy with an unlocked bootloader. This phone has the power to run ICS. Even if they never give us ICS, make it easy to make on our own...cause we sure as hell will.

spunker88 said:
Motorola is okay with unlocking the bootloader from what I've heard but Verizon doesn't want it. From locked bootloaders to forced bloatware to removing Google Wallet from the Nexus, its clear that Verizon just loves to screw with Android. When are they going to learn the most people only want to use your network, we could care less about anything you have to offer.
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idk y Verizon would let samsung unlock bootloaders and not motorola. Nexus is unlockable. Google Wallet is blocked becasue Verizon (+partners) spent $100Million (or something ridic) in a very similar banking product.

I was referencing a story where Verizon removed the option to unlock the bootloader on the Razr.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/24/mo...oader-tool-for-droid-razr-verizon-removes-it/

maybe we should start a petition to verizon to get a unlockable to all of there phones because its more and more on verizon then the companys, HTC listen, Moto said they would be nothing from Verizon

MrJudylicious said:
idk y Verizon would let samsung unlock bootloaders and not motorola. Nexus is unlockable.
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Since it is a development phone for the new OS, I think that the Nexus *must* be unlockable. It's the same reason why the Xoom is unlockable - it was the reference device for Honeycomb. So, if the next Nexus phone is Motorola, and it's on Verizon, it should also be unlockable.
Google Wallet is blocked becasue Verizon (+partners) spent $100Million (or something ridic) in a very similar banking product.
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Maybe, or perhaps it was because of this?: Google Wallet stores too much unencrypted data in a rooted device--report

doogald said:
Maybe, or perhaps it was because of this?: Google Wallet stores too much unencrypted data in a rooted device--report
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I wonder if they would consider that when they disallow rooting in the first place. More likely a play to insure that phone's stay locked to their network with their software. I can also see it from a support perspective but with custom roms available you change your first support step to "restore the original software, does it work now" and continue like normal from there.

Question about development

Moto X has been released in the end of summer and yet it looks pretty dead in here. What gives? Not a developer friendly phone?

I'm a new user of moto x (bought yesterday) and I think that devs are waiting for more upgrades to kit kat in all carriers and versions (VZ, ATT, GSM, rogers)

Not a lot of devs bought the phone. Also most people are happy with the phone as-is.

any phone with locked bootloaders will be not be super active with development. Also most people want aosp roms (CM, AOKP) etc, so we already basically have aosp on here anyway, so there isn't a lot of negativity about the lack of development

The Stock ROM is perfect, xposed framework makes it even more beyond perfect. If that's possible
Sent on my Moto X

I figure camera and screen colors could be tweaked .....I heard those are weak spots.

I suspect sales of the Moto X are not quite as good as anticipated, which is a real shame since it's such an excellent phone.
Additionally, and most importantly, the two biggest carriers - AT&T and Verizon - have locked bootloaders for the subsidized versions, which comprise a vast majority of phone sales. Offering a dev edition isn't enough if you can't get that edition subsidized, since one of the major drivers of development is the popularity of a phone.
To boot, Motorola only recently changed their policy on unlocking bootloaders to not void the warranty, which may have driven some people to buy subsidized/locked versions rather than springing for the development edition. Aside from the development edition being ugly (IMO), it's hard to justify spending $500+ on something that has no warranty.

I dont get the point of dev edition phones that are so hard to root. i just spend like an hour reading here and still dont know how to root tmobile MX, and i've rooted all my phones with breeze starting with N1

kolyan said:
I dont get the point of dev edition phones that are so hard to root. i just spend like an hour reading here and still dont know how to root tmobile MX, and i've rooted all my phones with breeze starting with N1
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If you have a Dev edition Moto X it should take 5 minutes to root......
Flash a recovery in fastboot, then flash a SU package.
Sent from my XT1058 using Tapatalk

droe411 said:
If you have a Dev edition Moto X it should take 5 minutes to root......
Flash a recovery in fastboot, then flash a SU package.
Sent from my XT1058 using Tapatalk
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thats what i though, but i cant find this anywhere. the only thread i found was dated Aug/Sept with this root method for tmobile and thread is locked now....(assuming tmobile and dev edition are the same phones)

kolyan said:
thats what i though, but i cant find this anywhere. the only thread i found was dated Aug/Sept with this root method for tmobile and thread is locked now....(assuming tmobile and dev edition are the same phones)
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If your bootloader is unlocked you should be able to do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47679799

chaoslimits said:
If your bootloader is unlocked you should be able to do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47679799
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Thanks. I'll give it a try. That's what I've always done before....

[Q] Recently bought "unlocked" Moto X

And it appears to be a Verizon moto X with towel Pie installed on it. So technically unlocked but I'm a little dubious as to whether I should just return this phone.
I didn't know what towel pie was at the time and didn't know the phone wasn't actually unlocked. The guy I bought it from said that verizon moto X phones were just naturally unlocked. I didn't really find that credible at the time but assumed the phone was nonetheless unlocked now.
After playing with the phone, I find that its not actually fully unlocked but rather has this program running on it that fights the Verizon firmware to effectively make it unlocked.
Here is what I want. I want this permanently rooted without any program running in the background to reroot the phone every time. And I want all the verizon logos off my login screens etc. Is there some sort of clean rom I can write over this thing that just has it unlocked?
I am not using Verizon as a carrier.
What do you think guys. Did I get scammed? I paid 400 USD for this phone. Prompt reply would be appreciated since I think I can still return it if I'm quick about it.
Thank you for your time.

Karmashock said:
And it appears to be a Verizon moto X with towel Pie installed on it. So technically unlocked but I'm a little dubious as to whether I should just return this phone.
I didn't know what towel pie was at the time and didn't know the phone wasn't actually unlocked. The guy I bought it from said that verizon moto X phones were just naturally unlocked. I didn't really find that credible at the time but assumed the phone was nonetheless unlocked now.
After playing with the phone, I find that its not actually fully unlocked but rather has this program running on it that fights the Verizon firmware to effectively make it unlocked.
Here is what I want. I want this permanently rooted without any program running in the background to reroot the phone every time. And I want all the verizon logos off my login screens etc. Is there some sort of clean rom I can write over this thing that just has it unlocked?
I am not using Verizon as a carrier.
What do you think guys. Did I get scammed? I paid 400 USD for this phone. Prompt reply would be appreciated since I think I can still return it if I'm quick about it.
Thank you for your time.
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HAHA. I think there was some mis-communication there.
OK: There are 2 types of "unlocked":
1. SIM-Unlocked: Verizon phones ARE "naturally" SIM-Unlocked, and you can use them on any GSM carrier.
2. Bootloader-Unlocked: ALL Verizon phones (aside from the Developer Edition), can NOT have their bootloader's unlocked. Verizon forbids motoorola from allowing you to unlock your bootloader. "Towel Pie Root" doesn't even come close to the functionality of an unlocked bootloader -- there's simply no comparison. There is absolutely NO WAY to unlock your bootloader, except for one possibility.
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
It will cost you money -- but if he doesn't have your code you get refunded. If you DO get a code, your bootloader will be permanently unlocked, and for all essence, it will be an unofficial "Developer Edition".
And finally -- in my opinion, $400 is QUITE excessive for what is really just a standard run-of-the-mill Verizion Moto X, with nothing special about it at all. The average selling price is currently $220 on swappa.com
If it were ME, I'd return it and find a bootloader-unlocked VZW Moto X, or the Verizon DEVELOPER edition Moto X.
Just be careful!!! Many Moto X's on swappa say that they are "unlocked", but this refers to SIM-UNLOCKED. Make sure it -explicitly- says "BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED".
Good Luck!!!
EDIT: Now that I see that you are NOT using verizon as your carrier, I would suggest that you buy an XT1053 instead.
The XT1053 has NO carrier branding, and it can be bootloader-unlocked FREE, direct from Motorola's website.
The price is slightly more than the VZW version - XT1053's are currently averaging $260 on swappa. They are ALL Sim-Unlocked, and bootloader-unlockable.
That's FAR less than the $400 you paid......

the sale is still going on on Motorola's website $324.99 brand new Dev Edition unlocked bootloader

samwathegreat said:
HAHA. I think there was some mis-communication there.
OK: There are 2 types of "unlocked":
1. SIM-Unlocked: Verizon phones ARE "naturally" SIM-Unlocked, and you can use them on any GSM carrier.
2. Bootloader-Unlocked: ALL Verizon phones (aside from the Developer Edition), can NOT have their bootloader's unlocked. Verizon forbids motoorola from allowing you to unlock your bootloader. "Towel Pie Root" doesn't even come close to the functionality of an unlocked bootloader -- there's simply no comparison. There is absolutely NO WAY to unlock your bootloader, except for one possibility.
See this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177
It will cost you money -- but if he doesn't have your code you get refunded. If you DO get a code, your bootloader will be permanently unlocked, and for all essence, it will be an unofficial "Developer Edition".
And finally -- in my opinion, $400 is QUITE excessive for what is really just a standard run-of-the-mill Verizion Moto X, with nothing special about it at all. The average selling price is currently $220 on swappa.com
If it were ME, I'd return it and find a bootloader-unlocked VZW Moto X, or the Verizon DEVELOPER edition Moto X.
Just be careful!!! Many Moto X's on swappa say that they are "unlocked", but this refers to SIM-UNLOCKED. Make sure it -explicitly- says "BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED".
Good Luck!!!
EDIT: Now that I see that you are NOT using verizon as your carrier, I would suggest that you buy an XT1053 instead.
The XT1053 has NO carrier branding, and it can be bootloader-unlocked FREE, direct from Motorola's website.
The price is slightly more than the VZW version - XT1053's are currently averaging $260 on swappa. They are ALL Sim-Unlocked, and bootloader-unlockable.
That's FAR less than the $400 you paid......
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A lot of my issue here is that I'm under some time pressure. My old phone broke and I really just need something to replace it now. So i got what i could get in a short amount of time.
That said, I'm only willing to put up with so much crap. I don't mind over paying a bit. I do mind not getting what I want.
Now, I do believe this is the developer edition. It gives me access to developer tools in the settings and the phone info information seemed to be what developer editions say. Is there a way I can confirm this?
And if it is a Verizon developer edition Moto X, can I properly root it and clean all this verizon garbage off my phone? It seemed like you suggested that if this were a Verizon developer edition Moto X I could still root it?
Please let me know. I'll eat the price hike as a convenience charge but I really can't put up with having it permanently crippled by Verizon.

Karmashock said:
A lot of my issue here is that I'm under some time pressure. My old phone broke and I really just need something to replace it now. So i got what i could get in a short amount of time.
That said, I'm only willing to put up with so much crap. I don't mind over paying a bit. I do mind not getting what I want.
Now, I do believe this is the developer edition. It gives me access to developer tools in the settings and the phone info information seemed to be what developer editions say. Is there a way I can confirm this?
And if it is a Verizon developer edition Moto X, can I properly root it and clean all this verizon garbage off my phone? It seemed like you suggested that if this were a Verizon developer edition Moto X I could still root it?
Please let me know. I'll eat the price hike as a convenience charge but I really can't put up with having it permanently crippled by Verizon.
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Enabling "Developer Options" can be done on any phone. Once again, this also has absolutely nothing to do with rooting or unlocking the bootloader. If it WERE the dev edition, the previous owner would have no reason, whatsoever to install TowelPieRoot. That's just silly to use an "exploit" on a phone with an unlocked bootloader.
TowelPieRoot DOES allow you to root the phone - but that will disappear when you update to 4.4.4 -- the new update patches the exploit used by TPR. After this, it will be permanently un-rootable unless you can unlock the BL.
You are completely out-of-luck, sir. Unless you want to roll the dice and spend another $45 in hopes that the "chinaman" might have an unlock code for you. I gave you the link in my first reply to you.
Unless the phone has a Black front, with a woven white back, it is NOT the unlockable developer edition. Sorry. Anything else is just a regular Moto X.

samwathegreat said:
Enabling "Developer Options" can be done on any phone. Once again, this also has absolutely nothing to do with rooting or unlocking the bootloader. If it WERE the dev edition, the previous owner would have no reason, whatsoever to install TowelPieRoot. That's just silly to use an "exploit" on a phone with an unlocked bootloader.
TowelPieRoot DOES allow you to root the phone - but that will disappear when you update to 4.4.4 -- the new update patches the exploit used by TPR. After this, it will be permanently un-rootable unless you can unlock the BL.
You are completely out-of-luck, sir. Unless you want to roll the dice and spend another $45 in hopes that the "chinaman" might have an unlock code for you. I gave you the link in my first reply to you.
Unless the phone has a Black front, with a woven white back, it is NOT the unlockable developer edition. Sorry. Anything else is just a regular Moto X.
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Thank you for your reply and do not take my stupid questions as a lack of appreciation or respect for your assistence. I'm just trying to understand if I'm mostly screwed or totally screwed.
In the sense of the princess bride... where he was "mostly dead" but not totally dead.
For example, does this work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45598648
Is there nothing that can root the bootloader on a verizon moto X?
If not, then thank you for helping me. If there is a way... I might be willing to try it.

Karmashock said:
Thank you for your reply and do not take my stupid questions as a lack of appreciation or respect for your assistence. I'm just trying to understand if I'm mostly screwed or totally screwed.
In the sense of the princess bride... where he was "mostly dead" but not totally dead.
For example, does this work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45598648
Is there nothing that can root the bootloader on a verizon moto X?
If not, then thank you for helping me. If there is a way... I might be willing to try it.
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I don't think you are understanding.....
There is no such thing as "rooting the bootloader".
Your bootloader is either unlocked, or it isn't.
There are some "Exploits" that the exploited vulnerabilities in android and allowed you to "root" or "disable write protection", but none of them are permanent solutions. Since they are "Exploits", they can be patched by future updates. They don't "root the bootloader" - they "root the android OS".
ALL exploits, including the one you have linked above HAVE BEEN PATCHED. The only working exploit is TowelPieRoot -- but it does NOT disable write protection. It isn't very useful, and it is not permanent. As I previously told you, once you update to 4.4.4 your phone will be PERMANENTLY un-rootable. Period.
The only way to gain "permanent root and write-protection disable" is to unlock the bootloader. You can NOT unlock the bootloader on a VZW device. Period. Not unless it is a Dev Edition, OR you are able to obtain a bootloader unlock-code from the china middleman that I linked you to before.
There are NO EXCEPTIONS. As I already told you, you are 100% out-of-luck, UNLESS your phone has a black front and woven white back, OR you are able to unlock through the middleman at a cost of $45. There is NO OTHER WAY. None.
Please trust me - I know what I'm talking about 100%. I've only given you the facts. Now you must choose what to do with these facts.

if you can get your money back get your money back moto will FedEx you the brand new dev edition for $324.99 you will have it in 3 or 4 days probably until then get on Craigslist buy a hundred dollar droid to use until then and sell it afterwords

samwathegreat said:
I don't think you are understanding.....
There is no such thing as "rooting the bootloader".
Your bootloader is either unlocked, or it isn't.
There are some "Exploits" that the exploited vulnerabilities in android and allowed you to "root" or "disable write protection", but none of them are permanent solutions. Since they are "Exploits", they can be patched by future updates. They don't "root the bootloader" - they "root the android OS".
ALL exploits, including the one you have linked above HAVE BEEN PATCHED. The only working exploit is TowelPieRoot -- but it does NOT disable write protection. It isn't very useful, and it is not permanent. As I previously told you, once you update to 4.4.4 your phone will be PERMANENTLY un-rootable. Period.
The only way to gain "permanent root and write-protection disable" is to unlock the bootloader. You can NOT unlock the bootloader on a VZW device. Period. Not unless it is a Dev Edition, OR you are able to obtain a bootloader unlock-code from the china middleman that I linked you to before.
There are NO EXCEPTIONS. As I already told you, you are 100% out-of-luck, UNLESS your phone has a black front and woven white back, OR you are able to unlock through the middleman at a cost of $45. There is NO OTHER WAY. None.
Please trust me - I know what I'm talking about 100%. I've only given you the facts. Now you must choose what to do with these facts.
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*sigh* Oh well.
Thank you. I'll just get the cheapest phone I can find at the store and get my money back for this one.

well im gonna order the new verizon developer edition for 324.99 than and unlock the bootloader and wipe all the verizon crap off it and permanently root it

Karmashock said:
And it appears to be a Verizon moto X with towel Pie installed on it. So technically unlocked but I'm a little dubious as to whether I should just return this phone..
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A couple of questions I haven't seen asked...
On the phone go to App Drawer -> Settings -> About phone... What is listed as the SYSTEM VERSION.
Next, what does the BACK of the phone look like or say? Does it have the Verizon logo on it? Does it have the words Developer Edition on the back? Does it have SMALL HARD TO READ Fine print at the bottom that says a model number? Or did it come with the original box that has the IMEI and Model on it? (the model would be XT1060, XT1053, XT1058, etc)
What carrier are you intending to use it with?
Power off the phone, then press the power and volume down buttons simultaneously NOTE: you may need to have the USB cable disconnected first. This will bring you into the AP Fastboot Flash Mode screen (aka bootloader or fastboot mode). It will say DEVICE IS... unlocked or locked. Which is it?
I am asking these questions to know 1. What model X you have, 2. if it is bootloader unlocked, and 3 what rom version is on there.
That will help us guide you further.
@samwathegreat already did a great job explaining Boot Loader Unlock vs SIM Unlock. I've got a long and deeper explaination on bootloader unlocking and effects on rooting at -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Locked.html It does need to be updated to cover rooting on 4.4.4 with a LOCKED bootloader is not possible.
In short, if your answers to my questions reveal you have a Verizon X that is not a developer edition phone, then the only way to unlock the bootloader is if you can buy a code from the China Middle Man. Unlocking the bootloader is essential these days if you want a full and working ROOT solution.
If you have a Verizon X that you are trying to use on T-Mobile, or ATT, then you might be OK as long as you don't need/want to root it, and are fine with running the stock Verizon ROM. You just might have some limits too (like not be being able to do Voice and LTE data at the same time)
Oh, but to get rid of some of the Verizon bloat, you will need to root it and delete the APK's which would impact future OTAs, or use something like Titanium Backup to freeze them. Both options need you to be rooted.
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Karmashock said:
*sigh* Oh well.
Thank you. I'll just get the cheapest phone I can find at the store and get my money back for this one.
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OK... just saw this.. so never mind what I just posted. Good luck.
If you really want an X, Let us know what carrier, and I would still recommend a Dev Edition, either the GSM or the VZW version depending on your carrier, especially while they stay on sale for $325.99. Any non-contract phone you can get is going to be near that cost, or above.

Question for Droid Loyalists

I've never had a Droid, so I'm clueless. I really haven't been into flashing Tom's in a while, but I like having root, TB, and being able to use root to adjust minor things. Do Droids usually have any dev support? I ask because since they are Exclusive, I know that cuts the list of Devs who are interested.
sent from my LG G3 Rasputin, by far the BEST phone I've ever owned.

big70tom said:
I've never had a Droid, so I'm clueless. I really haven't been into flashing Tom's in a while, but I like having root, TB, and being able to use root to adjust minor things. Do Droids usually have any dev support? I ask because since they are Exclusive, I know that cuts the list of Devs who are interested.
sent from my LG G3 Rasputin, by far the BEST phone I've ever owned.
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For truly exclusive to Verizon phone the dev support is very minimal or non-existent but it appears that Motorola will release a global version of this phone which should draw a lot more support. This phone comes loaded with almost vanilla Android - disable the bloat and you are as close to Nexus as you can get - the closes out of all manufacturers. With root, you get the ability to remove bloat but flashing ROMs is still questionable because of the locked bootloader. Here is a good read on bootloader onlocking:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56172538&postcount=20
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If you're going to comment on a dev forum, at least understand the terminology before you use it... otherwise it makes you seem ignorant. "UNLOCKED" and "UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER" are two very different things that have ZERO to do with one another.
All LTE CDMA phones for the past 2 years that use a SIM are "unlocked", as this refers to the carrier lock that is placed on the device when it is sold in bulk to network providers (which is why you have three network settings in your phones setting menu - LTE, GSM, and Global). Don't use terminology you don't understand, as you're adding to the ignorance too many seem to have about what unlocking is and what unlocking a bootloader is. It makes it only that much harder for other individuals to get the correct information, and is the reason why a VZW rep tried to tell me I don't need a developer edition to unlock my phone, because all LTE devices are unlocked when I tried to explain I was looking for a developer edition so I could unlock the bootloader.
Very few Verizon phones have the capability to unlock the phone's bootloader, which allows for rooting without an exploit and the ability to flash custom ROMs (firmware), such as Cyanagenmod. Those of you believing root will appear on any new Motorola phones are not well versed in Motorola phones sold by Verizon. Dan Rosenberg, who is the person anyone with a Motorola device on Verizon has to to thank for the last half decade of being able to root your Motorola VZW phones, has repeatedly posted on numerous threads for over a year to not expect for your Motorola devices to be rooted and if you want root, either buy a Nexus or buy a Developer Edition (if VZW is going to release any more editions after the S5 is not known and information about Developer Editions for the Note 4 Droid Turbo have been repeatedly ignored by VZW's Public Affairs office). This is due to the fact VZW has wizened up and made finding an exploit on anything past 4.4.4 nigh impossible. Exploits that allow root access are not easy to find (taking several months for most VZW Moto root exploits) and as soon as one is found, within a matter of weeks, if not days, VZW will push an automatic update, forcing your phone to update to patch the exploit. This is why when you root your phone you're told to disable OTA updates at the apk level by freezing the update apk or removing it all together after making a backup of it.
Many Motorola users got a surprise in late Spring when a Moto employee "accidentally" included the exploited code that allowed you to blow the fuse and unlock the bootloader of devices running 4.4.2. That was a once in a billion opportunity that will probably never happen again. Every time an exploit has been found that allowed root access or the ability to unlock the bootloader (which was only recently cracked in the past year, possibly two... to put that in perspective, it took over half a decade for Dan Rosenberg to find the exploit that allowed the internal fuse to be blown, unlocking the bootloader). Exploits are not easy things to find, especially in Motorola devices running on VZW's network.
To all of those that like to post root bounties... BUY A DEVELOPER EDITION. You'll pay $300 for a device and then offer $300+ for a root bounty... which is the cost of developer edition device... considering VZW offers Edge, you no longer have to pay full retail in one go for a DE. From this point forward, VZW customers need to comprehend the fact that rooting will continue to be increasingly difficult to perform, most especially on Moto phones running on VZW's network. If you want root access, buy the S5 developer edition or wait until the first week of december to see if a developer edition for the Note 4 will be released (if a Note 4 DE is going to be released, it will occur within the 4 - 6 weeks following it's RTM on 10/23 [Thursday]).
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[Q] VZW Moto X 1060 -- no hackee?

I liked Cyan on my old Droid X but it looks like from a quick glance at the Guides and Tips page that I won't be able to even do a Clockwork Recovery let alone a new modded OS like Cyanogenmod.
Did I read that right? Assuming so, is there anything evil I can do to this phone?

You are on Verizon, so your bootloader can't be unlocked at the Moto site. You can try Sunshine for $25. That's your only hope.
And I'll ask your question be moved to the Q&A section. ?

Thx. How odd they'd lock it then charge $25 to unlock it-- that seems so Apple-esque. I bought this phone used, so I'm unlikely to throw much more money at it, but it's nice to have the option.
Shux.

JZLxxx said:
Thx. How odd they'd lock it then charge $25 to unlock it-- that seems so Apple-esque. I bought this phone used, so I'm unlikely to throw much more money at it, but it's nice to have the option.
Shux.
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I think you misunderstand. The $25 unlock is a third-party exploit developed by JCase and a number of other talented developers. If you are on VZW, that is the only way to unlock, but it is far from official. Plus, it rarely works on 4.4.4 for the Moto X. I think most people would be ok if VZW offered a reasonable priced paid unlock, but I doubt we ever see that.

What did you expect after buying a locked phone on Verizon? If you value rooting, look into buying phones with easily unlockable bootloaders. Folks are lucky to have sunshine as it is
Sent from my XT1060

Ah, I didn't realize it was a 3rd party thing.
rocketsaucev2 said:
What did you expect after buying a locked phone on Verizon? If you value rooting, look into buying phones with easily unlockable bootloaders. Folks are lucky to have sunshine as it is
Sent from my XT1060
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I didn't research it much, but I was a little confuzzled by a webpage that led me to think I could (A person needs 10 posts to insert a link?). I was able to put Cyan on my VZW Droid X, e.g.
Was that supposed to be helpful?

JZLxxx said:
I didn't research it much, but I was a little confuzzled by a webpage that led me to think I could (A person needs 10 posts to insert a link?). I was able to put Cyan on my VZW Droid X, e.g.
Was that supposed to be helpful?
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A little history...
The Verizon XT1060 has always shipped with a locked bootloader. This prevents flashing ROMs or Parts (like custom recovery) from being flashed to the phone. Only Roms signed by Moto and intended for that model and carrier can be flashed.
A Developer Edition For Verizon Moto X was available from Moto's web site only. For that device, Moto would give out the bootloader unlock code. Once unlocked, you could flash 3rd party roms and parts. With the Dev Edition, you did not void your warranty while doing this.
Verizon stores and Moto's Moto Maker web site also sold the X for Verizon, but for these not Developer Editions, you could NOT get the BootLoader Unlock code.
Later, someone was able to gain access to a database of IMEI numbers and their BootLoader Unlock codes, even for Verizon Non-Dev Editions and started selling them via a China web site, and later Middle Man. While it went away for a little over a month, it later came back. It has recently shut down again.
JCASE and others had found a vulnerability they could exploit to unlock the bootloader, no unlock code needed. Its called Sunshine. But it only works on phones which haven't even been upgraded to 4.4.4.
So depending on what you read, it could be "dated" and written at a time where you could have purchased the bootloader unlock code from the China Website or Middleman.