[Q] Screen on time - Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh

I see a lot of battery life threads with various conflicting tests. I'm curious about one spec - what is the typical screen on time for a heavy user? On my g2, I'm lucky to squeeze out 3 hours. I've been reading that the Turbo still falls behind the note 4 in screen time. Can anyone speak to this yet?

thats the main reason i do not rush to get one, im waiting for a full review of the phone before take my last desicion

Stockmoose16 said:
I see a lot of battery life threads with various conflicting tests. I'm curious about one spec - what is the typical screen on time for a heavy user? On my g2, I'm lucky to squeeze out 3 hours. I've been reading that the Turbo still falls behind the note 4 in screen time. Can anyone speak to this yet?
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Picked it up this morning, will be posting detailed battery info in a few days. Needs to go through charge cycles and I need to get to my normal setup.

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samsung guy buys htc one and rooting questions

OK I can find the answers here most likely but I just wanted to ask questions.
I have had s2 and s3. both rooted. both custom kernels. etc. I noticed vast improvements. the one frankly makes me nervous. should I even root it?
its on telus network in Canada. seems the ones are all the same no? unlike Samsung galaxy series. is development advanced enough to go ahead? I've only had the phone now for less than a week. I really do like it. miss the physical home button. don't care about aluminum design etc. nervous about sealed battery. but the battery life is awesome so far. even on the first charge I got all day and 6 hours of screen. this was with playing with settings. trying speakers. etc. but of course I'm always looking for more.
I'd say rooting my s3 meant I went from all day and 5 hours screen to all day and 6 plus hours screen. definitely worth it. should I expect the same here? I really want a secondary way to wake the device. pushing a touch button or swipe would be nice. will these not work in a dark room? any detrimental reasons why I wouldn't want this?
I mostly want battery life. convince me that I have the right phone. I can still return it I think. but got a good deal on the phone. basically paid 500 for it new. on a plan. 150 off price. and 500 device balance should I decide to pay it out. s4 is still 150 on contract. plus the 500 device balance. I want to like the one I really do. but missing Samsung sometimes. this is not an s4 vs one thread. just help me make the most of this device.
oh and today battery life is not so good. 12 hours up time. 2.5 hrs screen and 40% left. not terrible I guess. but perhaps something is sending it down some.
another question. what root features will do me the most for battery? with s3 I set screen off max to really really low. and that helped. under volt across the board and limit CPU speed. but this is my first quad core. thanks
Don't wanna sound mean, but save yourself the trouble and switch the One for the S4. I've enough experience to know that when you're questioning a phone, asking whether it's the right one for you or not, usually means the mind's set on something else and you'll never be happy with it. If you miss Samsung and you like the ability to switch batteries, why not go with the S4? It's not a bad device, and you said yourself that you don't care about the aluminium design of the One.
If battery life is what you're after, I'd be happy to let you know there are a lot of beefy batteries available for the S4. Check Amazon for instance.
Cheers.
s384 said:
oh and today battery life is not so good. 12 hours up time. 2.5 hrs screen and 40% left. not terrible I guess. but perhaps something is sending it down some.
another question. what root features will do me the most for battery? with s3 I set screen off max to really really low. and that helped. under volt across the board and limit CPU speed. but this is my first quad core. thanks
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battery will improve over time when i first got mine i got around
10-12 hrs with around 3-4 hrs screen time
the next week i got 15-20 hrs with 4-5 hrs screen time
and now after around 2 months around 30 hrs with 5-7 hrs screen time
but i rooted and installed custom sense rom first day
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Don't wanna sound mean, but save yourself the trouble and switch the One for the S4. I've enough experience to know that when you're questioning a phone, asking whether it's the right one for you or not, usually means the mind's set on something else and you'll never be happy with it. If you miss Samsung and you like the ability to switch batteries, why not go with the S4? It's not a bad device, and you said yourself that you don't care about the aluminium design of the One.
If battery life is what you're after, I'd be happy to let you know there are a lot of beefy batteries available for the S4. Check Amazon for instance.
Cheers.
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appreciate the response. but I did save 150$ going this route. don't give up on me so easy. I'm still here aren't I?
s384 said:
appreciate the response. but I did save 150$ going this route. don't give up on me so easy. I'm still here aren't I?
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Fair enough. I don't know any battery saving tweaks as I don't pay much mind to that. I just use my device like I want to use it, then charge whenever I see fit. I have a charger at home, next to my bed (which is also conveniently close to my desk) so I'm happy if it lasts 8 hours of medium usage (whenever I'm working)
I just don't wanna see you miserable, mate. I've seen far too many people making the wrong choice of phone (myself included, though not with the One) and ending up hating anything and everything (not literally ).
i agree with theshawty 1st post...
@OP, i think you only want some attention and some words to help you sleep at night... you're not a noob in rooting world, you already know about the difference between HTC and Samsung in battery area, and now you want others to convince you? nobody can...
Try JuiceDefender. It does a good job of managing radios and turning things off and on based on location in addition to some other solid battery saving techniques.
Also, I hear your pain. I love the design and the speakers. I even like Sense for the first time ever. I think I miss the physical home button of my S2 and 3 though. Reaching for the power button is annoying and compounded by the fact that the screen stays off when texts are received.
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you should stick with the S4. The battery life on the One will make you hate it later. I had the S4 but switched to the One because I just enjoy the screen of the One more than the S4.
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you should stick with the S4. The battery life on the One will make you hate it later. I had the S4 but switched to the One because I just enjoy the screen of the One more than the S4.
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really? i average 30+ hrs with 5-7 hrs screen time which is on par with the s4 i had but the lag was to much. how does a phone with the same processor as the one but overclocked to 1.9 ghz lag when the one at 1.7 ghz doesnt? that is unacceptable for a flagship device
Man you guys are so helpful S-off your phone and unlock ur bootloader then load the 4.2.2 leak the battery life and camera are amazing on it...root and use greenify and enable auto hibernation.Enable power saver but disable the screen option(which really dims screen) put screen brightness @ 50% trust me awesome Battery life
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
billygr said:
i agree with theshawty 1st post...
@OP, i think you only want some attention and some words to help you sleep at night... you're not a noob in rooting world, you already know about the difference between HTC and Samsung in battery area, and now you want others to convince you? nobody can...
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I'm not a noob to rooting. I've done it with almost every phone I've had. I just happen to not have much experience with HTC. I had a desire HD. rooted. but got rid of it shortly after.
like I said if I was so desperate for the s4 I would get it. or i would go out and buy one outright. i saved 150 buying the one, its got rave reviews, and so far save for a few thinga i love it. I said I don't care about aluminum, but truth be told this phone seems much more robust than s4. materials aside. and that's important. if it was a robust plastic phone I would not care.
I've been reading the forums but really haven't had much time lately. thanks for replies
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Man you guys are so helpful S-off your phone and unlock ur bootloader then load the 4.2.2 leak the battery life and camera are amazing on it...root and use greenify and enable auto hibernation.Enable power saver but disable the screen option(which really dims screen) put screen brightness @ 50% trust me awesome Battery life
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
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About that screenshot... Did you leave it unplugged @ 100% from the last nightt? 7hrs with 98% is just unrealistic, and considering it's early morning when you took the shot...
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About that screenshot... Did you leave it unplugged @ 100% from the last nightt? 7hrs with 98% is just unrealistic, and considering it's early morning when you took the shot...
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yes I unplugged it @ 100% went to bed woke up took screen shoot it is the same every time if i sleep more than 9hrs sometimes it will be @ 97%...powersave on this phone is awesome i just disable it for my screen and set it 50% brightness everything is on wifi bluetooth etc ,the phone goes into a deep sleep when in standby and with greenify hibernating everything(google maps etc) this is real man

Nexus 5 battery does NOT suck

Ok, maybe it does suck for all users, so the title may be a little misleading, but for those worried about purchasing because of battery life, depending on your usage, the Nexus 5 isn't that bad.
I previously owned an iPhone 5, and after having made the jump to Android finally, I was worried about battery life. Specifically because its my understanding that Android does background tasking differently than iPhone. Well, after having my Nexus 5 for almost 2 weeks now, I must say that I'm impressed with the results. The short version: after getting my Nexus 5 set up to do all that I basically would do on my iPhone on a regular day, the Nexus 5 stomps all over my iPhone 5's battery life.
Not sure exactly how to go into details, but my basic usage is that I work typically 5 hours a day. by the end of my 5 hour shift, and after having barely used my phone during that time, it was a good day if my battery was left with anything over 35%. Keep in mind that I would always have my phone charged at 100% before work, and since im on sprint, my area doesn't even have LTE yet, so I can't use that as an excuse for drain. Though to be fair, my iPhone 5's have both had issues (I've swapped it out once already hoping it was just my phone)
anyways, lately ive been getting full time hours for the holidays, and since I have my nexus 5, I leave my phone fully charged before work. during a 12 hour day, my nexus 5 still had 51% battery life, versus my iPhone only having 25-45% during a 5 hour shift. Granted, this is through light use (a typical day of not accessing my phone much, only checking one mail gets pushed through, texts, and the occasional quick google search lookup here and there)
I am very well aware that the battery drains a lot faster during screen on time, but you have to consider how much bigger the screen is in comparison, and the resolution. But, with that said, screen on time, even game usage, I see the Nexus 5 battery life last longer than my iPhone 5 ever did.
So, for those coming from an iPhone specifically, and scared by all the "this is my battery life" posts everywhere, keep in mind what exactly it is a user is doing on their phone, and a simple screenshot isn't enough to detail what the battery life entails. I'd like to also point out that I haven't really done any of the basic power saving tweaks yet either, so I am excited to mess around with my phone some more as well. Ive also noticed that in the battery settings you can go into each app and see exactly what some apps are doing that are draining your battery. This is dependent on the app, and it mostly just gives you how much data an app used, how long it was accessing something (for instance, cpu, GPS, etc)
These are two different phones, and in particular, two different worlds basically. You can't really compare battery life between the two because they function differently in their own ways. But you can't judge the Nexus 5 battery life on what others say they get either. It all depends on what you are doing exactly. So when you see those screenshots, make sure to get all the info on usage first, before assuming the Nexus 5 battery is poor. I'm not saying its going to last you all day, because again, depending on your usage, the battery just might suck. But I personally know when I am going to game or do something heavy, no matter what phone, it's going to need to be recharged eventually anyway.
Huh ?
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I find the battery life to be very good on my Nexus 5 too. More often I'm getting 2 days easy. That's with little use through day time, and heavy web, facebook, email and quick game or 2 in the evenings. Sometimes all that and even have 20% left!
My last phone was the HTC One-X with the 1800mah battery and it would struggle with a full day.
Are you kidding me? iPhone's battery life is atrocious! No real iPhone user would actually be worried about battery life because they always keep their phone plugged in so that they won't have to worry about their stupid little battery. To be fair, it's quite a feat for the iPhone to handle all that technology on such a small battery but realistically, everybody I know who owns an iPhone regardless of generation always complain that their phone's battery is weak and they either have to keep it charged all the time or carry around external chargers.
I think iPhone users should consider other things such as moving to a different OS and how maybe some of their favourite apps won't be available to them anymore. They shouldn't have to worry about battery life at all.
I've received my N5 last week and yea I find battery life crap...
I have a Note 3 where I get 6 hours on screen daily while my Nexus I have hard time getting 3...
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it kinda sucks if u ask me..i have to constantly charge it every now and then
The battery life is good in comparison to my former Samsung Galaxy S3 Well, it´s not as good as a Samsung Galaxy Note III or similar huge device with a huge built in battery but to be honest, as a customer you knew before the purchase what you had to expect
If you use a good custom kernel, disable processes you don´t need and don´t play games all the time, the battery life of the Nexus 5 is good enough.
im getting great battery life with my N5.. better then my htc one and gs4... yea im rocking franco kernel which is a kick a$$ kernel but even b4 i rooted it i was getting great battery life.. i never use GPS.. i NEVER have ishh syncing in the backround.. i dont go on facebook from my phone..
I would say the Nexus 5 battery is average or slightly above average. It does not suck but it is not great either. Its on par with other phones with the same size screen and battery.
It seems to me that the ones complaining about the battery life are coming from other android devices which, depending on the device, might have had a bigger battery to begin with, other optimizations, etc.
Then some of the ones praising the battery (like myself) have probably come from smaller devices, like the iPhone (such as myself lol).
I just wanted to post this to point out for those that were like me and worried about it. There are still things I don't like about android, but I'm trying to give it a chance and keep the switch. I just got sick of the iOS environment.
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I've received my N5 last week and yea I find battery life crap...
I have a Note 3 where I get 6 hours on screen daily while my Nexus I have hard time getting 3...
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Look at the Note 3 battery
I feel like I am the only person on earth who actually doesn't the iphone has bad battery life. (maybe that's because I had galaxy phones up until my iphone 5 and 5s and was blown away at how long it lasted) i could easily go 2 days on a charge, not that I ever did unless I had to. but anyway I digress.
I would say my Nexus battery is more than adequate for what I need. I am a heavy user, especially yesterday it was constant twitter/instagram/texting etc... And I got over 13 hours with 3+ hours of screen time.
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Look at the Note 3 battery
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I know the difference in the battery.
But coming from a Note 3 to N5 is a major downgrade for me.
My N4 and N5 has no difference at all in battery life.
I love my N5 for the OS with Google experience, give me a rom like that for my note 3 and I wouldn't even keep my N5. That why I bought the n5, I'm bored of all the crap Samsung put in my note 3.
1.2gb vs 300mb, that's the roms size difference between both... But yea at the moment I'm keeping both device for daily use.
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I think the phone's OS itself is quite optimized and I was expecting far worse battery life since I am coming from a Note 2. To my surprise, it's not bad at all. I've not experienced many wakelocks, and my cell reception is, on a scale of 1-10 avg about 7. I've disabled the recommended location stuff and wifi scanning, and I'd say it's doing quite well. I've also installed Lux to minimize screen brightness and it helps a bit.
Overall, I will say the battery life is adequate, considering how thin and light this phone is. If you really need the battery life, get a Note 3 or a battery pack.
I don't have any battery issues personally but I see a few people do but I do know a few things that cause it.
The new GPS menu is misleading, you want to have it on Battery Saver, not High Accuracy, that there will drain your battery alone.
Turn off NFC when not in use.
Just a few things.
IIIPowerIII said:
I've received my N5 last week and yea I find battery life crap...
I have a Note 3 where I get 6 hours on screen daily while my Nexus I have hard time getting 3...
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If you are seriously spending 6hrs a day on your phone you have issues man. No offense but that's just unhealthy!
Go outside a bit and go for a walk or something. Try leave your phone at home.
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If you are seriously spending 6hrs a day on your phone you have issues man. No offense but that's just unhealthy!
Go outside a bit and go for a walk or something. Try leave your phone at home.
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Oh yea because it last 6 hours per charge, I need to use it 6 hours per day...
My note is charged once per 2 days and I never run out of battery while my Nexus is dying at the end of 1 days so yea it make a big difference.
I'll have to start some heavy undervolting like I did on my N4 to get something normal.
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Wow I would have never thought the iPhone 5 had such bad battery life
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battery life is a big improvement for me over my old galaxy s3. I can actually make phone calls send text, surf and watch youtube and have about 3.5-4h hours of time on screen with about 16 hours of being unplugged.
Funny - it's the second best phone I've had. I had no problem getting 3 days out of my HTC One GPE, and I have no problem getting 2 days out of my Nexus 5.
My absolute worst battery day was 15 hours, 20 minutes to 5% battery. That consisted of 4 hours, 31 minutes screen-on time, with literally 100% of that time consisting of running benchmarks (mostly 3dmark and geekbench). Since then, I haven't had a single day - even relatively heavy phone-use days, with 2+ hours of screen-on time - where I've gone below 50% before bed. Other than the HTC One GPE, this is the first phone I can say that about.
According to BetterBatteryStats, my battery drain RARELY reaches 2%/hr.
Anyone complaining about battery life on this phone likely has either a battery issue, a rogue process, or they use it a LOT more heavily than they think... Just my 2 cents.
One last thing, for absolute transparency - The first thing I do with ANY new Nexus device is turn it on to make sure it works, unlock the bootloader, and immediately flash the factory image. Between a Nexus One, 2 Nexus S's, 2 Galaxy Nexuses, 3 Nexus 4's, 2 2012 Nexus 7's, a Nexus 10, and now my Nexus 5, the only device to ever have a problem is my wife's Nexus S, which suddenly stopped turning on one day. Worked perfectly, battery died, then... nothing, ever again.

Why do I have to struggle with battery life?

Let me ask a question, cause its bothering me; I had an N5 and loved it, the no-crap android os is what I want. Unfortunately I had to go through all kinds of hoops and do all kinds of crap to get it to last me a full day with no charge, I changed kernels and kernel settings, etc. and usually had to throw it on a charger to get through the day and periodically would hose my phone due to under-volting which was hit or miss anyway.
I picked up an invite for a 64G OnePlus and it was insane, its like I got double the battery life and did nothing, no kernel, just the stock CM. I lusted for the N6 and got it last week. Man its big, but I'm loving it, but......wtf is the issue with the battery? I'm reading other stories and I have not been able to really benchmark mine, I got the phone Fri. and have not had a normal day yet, but I'm starting to get a little worried. I had wake up notifications, LED blinking and the same amount of wake ups as I usually have. But I don't think theres anyway I'm getting 5ish sot. Why? Whats so different? Is it me or the device? I can live with 4ish sot, nothing less and I don't want to **** around with kernels again. I'm still in my 14 day return, but so don't want to. I'm rooted, custom recovery, don't want to flash a rom (well maybe CM when available) and did not feel a need to decrypt, but maybe thats the answer. Anyway, any additional thoughts?
I just think that the nexus 6 panel is very power hungry. 5 hrs sot is kind of what I have been getting. It kills me that the note 4 has the same processor and same battery yet gets better battery life.
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I just think that the nexus 6 panel is very power hungry. 5 hrs sot is kind of what I have been getting. It kills me that the note 4 has the same processor and same battery yet gets better battery life.
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But I figured the Moto like peek feature would be less power then a full wake up like it was doing on the One. I want to keep this phone, I actually did the unthinkable and tried the IP6+, just to give it the benefit of a doubt, I got it on a Fri. morn and brought it back Mon.
Any chance of software fix from Google? I know there is not a clear answer, but I'm wondering what the xda-gods are thinking, hence my questions.
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I actually did the unthinkable and tried the IP6+, just to give it the benefit of a doubt
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but I'm wondering what the xda-gods are thinking,
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You have likely offended the xda-Android-dogs by your sacrilegious act described above!!! You need to smash up a brand new IP6+ as a sacrifice to atone for this act! You infidel!
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On a serious note, OnePlus is running a custom OS, with a custom kernel and all the goodies that we Nexus users have to make changes to get. One+ is already running the optimized OS. I'd say that is why it gets better battery life than stock Lollipop.

Battery drain on replacement Note 7

So, my first Note 7 was great. I had none of the reported lag or battery life/battery drain problems. I replaced it last Friday. The replacement phone is set up identically, but my battery life is much worse. I have yet to hit 4 hours SOT, with my max being around 3. On the old one I always got at least 4. In battery usage, Android System is at the top of the list, and CPU total is 6.5hr out of the 12 it's been off the charger. Nothing has changed so I have no idea why this would be. Is there a fix for this? Has anyone else had this issue with their replacement?
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So, my first Note 7 was great. I had none of the reported lag or battery life/battery drain problems. I replaced it last Friday. The replacement phone is set up identically, but my battery life is much worse. I have yet to hit 4 hours SOT, with my max being around 3. On the old one I always got at least 4. In battery usage, Android System is at the top of the list, and CPU total is 6.5hr out of the 12 it's been off the charger. Nothing has changed so I have no idea why this would be. Is there a fix for this? Has anyone else had this issue with their replacement?
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Unfortunately, it's a wide spread issue. Many people are reporting battery issues, such as drain and slower charging. All signs are pointing to these new batteries being jank. Either that, or built in software changes in the firmware to intentionally neuter battery performance for safety measures.
I am having the same issue bad battery drain.
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I had horrible battery with my first one and more of the same with this new one. I get through my 8hr day at work with 20-15% left and just a Lil over 1hr screen time. Always android system and android os keeping the cpu going.
I disabled just about all Samsung bloat except Knox and ant services. Gonna see how it goes tomorrow.
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I had horrible battery with my first one and more of the same with this new one. I get through my 8hr day at work with 20-15% left and just a Lil over 1hr screen time. Always android system and android os keeping the cpu going.
I disabled just about all Samsung bloat except Knox and ant services. Gonna see how it goes tomorrow.
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Let me know how it goes. With my original phone I was getting the best battery life I've ever gotten from a phone (the Nexus 6 previously held that title). Very disappointed that the replacement doesn't last like the original.
same for me... any reason known ?
My fast charging seems to not be working, at least I don't think so. Worked perfect on my v1 note 7. Now, no lie it's charges quicker with fast charging turned off. Found that strange. And my battery life is horrible cause I'm always on my phone so nothing weird there lol
Not sure if this will be relevant for anyone else:
I found in another thread (that I cannot find for the life of me now...) some talk about an issue with Oculus Home eating up a lot of resource while attempting to install itself, failing and continuously retrying. I thought my phone was broken. I went from full to 20% in 5 hours extremely warm the entire time, typing in any app was painful. It prevented the gear fit 2 plugin from updating causing all sorts of weirdness with S health and my gear fit 2. So much so that I called Samsung tech support for the first time (great btw).
I got rid of everything Oculus related on my phone and now it feels brand new.
That app was like cancer it seems
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Not sure if this will be relevant for anyone else:
I found in another thread (that I cannot find for the life of me now...) some talk about an issue with Oculus Home eating up a lot of resource while attempting to install itself, failing and continuously retrying. I thought my phone was broken. I went from full to 20% in 5 hours extremely warm the entire time, typing in any app was painful. It prevented the gear fit 2 plugin from updating causing all sorts of weirdness with S health and my gear fit 2. So much so that I called Samsung tech support for the first time (great btw).
I got rid of everything Oculus related on my phone and now it feels brand new.
That app was like cancer it seems
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Yea the last oculus update destroyed the app. I hope they get it fixed soon.
http://phandroid.com/2016/09/30/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-battery-drain-oculus/
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Let me know how it goes. With my original phone I was getting the best battery life I've ever gotten from a phone (the Nexus 6 previously held that title). Very disappointed that the replacement doesn't last like the original.
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Slightly better today so far but still horrible. Snapchat is killing the battery. I sent 2 snaps and looked at a couple stories.
I miss my ver. 1 battery life
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I swear I have a galaxy s6. This battery life is straight atrocious.

Question Panel Gap between Screen and Frame on a brand new S21 Ultra

Hi Guys,
I just purchased a brand new Galaxy S21 Ultra,
I am loving the phone, however I have noticed a gap between the screen and Body of the phone and I can slide a piece of paper through it.
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I am deeply disappointed with this, is this normal?
I previously had the s7 and s9 and both had similar manufacturing flaws, it **bleep** to see that Samsung Quality control has still not changed over the years.
Is this a problem? Shall this affect the water resistance of the phone or is this normal?
Please help and give your feedbacks
I'm able to slide a paper in between the front and back glass and the frame too. I guess it's by design...? Never really noticed it in all these months till you pointed it out and frankly, even after seeing it now, it doesn't bother me. I guess some clearance is required between the brittle glass and the metal frame to prevent stress fractures of the glass when the frame deforms under stress, like @adamlee2012 said in his post.
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Mine has gaps the same on the top on both corners. I think it's normal, it's to protect from impact, more likely to crack the glass if frame and glass are touching.
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Thank you for your reply.
That is true however I'm concerned regarding the water resistance?
I tried submerging my phone in a bucket of water for 10mins, other than the microphone which eventually started working after it dried out. Everything else seemed fine
But if this Is normal why is that other device may or may not have it?
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I'm able to slide a paper in between the front and back glass and the frame too. I guess it's by design...? Never really noticed it in all these months till you pointed it out and frankly, even after seeing it now, it doesn't bother me. I guess some clearance is required between the brittle glass and the metal frame to prevent stress fractures of the glass when the frame deforms under stress, like @adamlee2012 said in his post.
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That is true but shouldn't it be uniform then, why is that some parts have a wider gap than the others and if so isn't that a manufacturing defect after all?
Do you suggest to keep or return this device?
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Thank you for your reply.
That is true however I'm concerned regarding the water resistance?
I tried submerging my phone in a bucket of water for 10mins, other than the microphone which eventually started working after it dried out. Everything else seemed fine
But if this Is normal why is that other device may or may not have it?
That is true but shouldn't it be uniform then, why is that some parts have a wider gap than the others and if so isn't that a manufacturing defect after all?
Do you suggest to keep or return this device?
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I'm not sure if this will be accepted by Samsung as a valid reason for replacement. But if you're unhappy, by all means try to get a replacement or refund. It's your money, and you should be fully satisfied with what you bought with it, especially for this kind of asking price.
If the gap is giving you sleepless nights, better to get it replaced, or refund to get another phone. If I were you, I'd leave it alone. But it's your decision.
enigmaamit said:
I'm not sure if this will be accepted by Samsung as a valid reason for replacement. But if you're unhappy, by all means try to get a replacement or refund. It's your money, and you should be fully satisfied with what you bought with it, especially for this kind of asking price.
If the gap is giving you sleepless nights, better to get it replaced, or refund to get another phone. If I were you, I'd leave it alone. But it's your decision.
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Well I purchased it off Amazon and I can return it for a refund, however the problem is due to the semi conductor chip shortage, there are no phones in stock, I had to wait for 2 months to get this device, now if I return it I don't know when the next one will come.
Also I am concerned that what if the replacement phone has wider gaps, I mean if this is normal and every device has it then it makes no sense to return it, am I right?
On a side note I found this statement from samsung
salvator101 said:
Hi Guys,
I just purchased a brand new Galaxy S21 Ultra,
I am loving the phone, however I have noticed a gap between the screen and Body of the phone and I can slide a piece of paper through it.
(Pictures attached below)
I am deeply disappointed with this, is this normal?
I previously had the s7 and s9 and both had similar manufacturing flaws, it **bleep** to see that Samsung Quality control has still not changed over the years.
Is this a problem? Shall this affect the water resistance of the phone or is this normal?
Please help and give your feedbacks
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Welcome to 4 years ago.
There is an app here in the s21U forum that checks the waterproofness of the device by asking you to press the screen hard so the app can check the internal pressure sensors.
It is made with the purpose of checking if the phones seals have worn out.
If yours is fine then you should probably just wear a case on the phone and move on
babyboy3265 said:
There is an app here in the s21U forum that checks the waterproofness of the device by asking you to press the screen hard so the app can check the internal pressure sensors.
It is made with the purpose of checking if the phones seals have worn out.
If yours is fine then you should probably just wear a case on the phone and move on
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I did use the app, it uses the barometer to gauge if the water seal is broken or not.
However I do not know how accurate it is.
My phone passed the test though
I don't have this gap on my S21U Silver.
Everything is like molded and glued together
salvator101 said:
I did use the app, it uses the barometer to gauge if the water seal is broken or not.
However I do not know how accurate it is.
My phone passed the test though
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Well you already submerged the phone into water for 10 mins and all was fine so I see no reason to worry. The test must be accurate.
Honestly, given how tough it is to get a phone like that today, best case is to just put a cover on it and forget about the gap.
Unless you wanna try and go to the seller and ask for a new pone and see what they have to say. Soon new, or not...?
Nat.smith26 said:
I don't have this gap on my S21U Silver.
Everything is like molded and glued together
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Are you certain there is no gap at all on any of the sides?
babyboy3265 said:
Well you already submerged the phone into water for 10 mins and all was fine so I see no reason to worry. The test must be accurate.
Honestly, given how tough it is to get a phone like that today, best case is to just put a cover on it and forget about the gap.
Unless you wanna try and go to the seller and ask for a new pone and see what they have to say. Soon new, or not...?
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That is true.
I purchased it from Amazon and I gave only return it for a refund as they do not have any stock for a replacement, I waited for this phone itself for 1 month or so.
Also the phone is heating a lot and the battery life sucks. I have the Exynos variant. The ideal temperature is 35-38*C with some camera usage it goes up to 45 *C. Don't know if that's normal or what
My battery is showing learning usage pattern and it's on day 3.
So I'm really confused
salvator101 said:
Are you certain there is no gap at all on any of the sides?
That is true.
I purchased it from Amazon and I gave only return it for a refund as they do not have any stock for a replacement, I waited for this phone itself for 1 month or so.
Also the phone is heating a lot and the battery life sucks. I have the Exynos variant. The ideal temperature is 35-38*C with some camera usage it goes up to 45 *C. Don't know if that's normal or what
My battery is showing learning usage pattern and it's on day 3.
So I'm really confused
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If you can get a refund for it then that's not bad. Don't know where you live but it might be best to consider buying it locally if it exists in any shop near you.
I also got the exynos. The heating was present at 1st but eventually it stopped. After the usage was calibrated. And on the latest update with plenty of bloatware removed as per Ketan Rom.
Cemera heating up a bit is normal. If it really overheats and it starts being unresponsive that's a problem. Also if you are recording a video in hot weather that's a guaranteed HOT phone. It's happening for everyone and it is normal.
babyboy3265 said:
If you can get a refund for it then that's not bad. Don't know where you live but it might be best to consider buying it locally if it exists in any shop near you.
I also got the exynos. The heating was present at 1st but eventually it stopped. After the usage was calibrated. And on the latest update with plenty of bloatware removed as per Ketan Rom.
Cemera heating up a bit is normal. If it really overheats and it starts being unresponsive that's a problem. Also if you are recording a video in hot weather that's a guaranteed HOT phone. It's happening for everyone and it is normal.
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Hey thanks for the swift reply.
I live in India, the only feasible and best way to purchase it is via Amazon as they have a return period of 7 days if I purchase it from Samsung or any other local shop, there return period is max 24 hours which sucks.
I love the phone, love everything about it and especially now with the new iPhone out, I can still say that this crushes it, there is no other viable contender for it out there.
I can get it refunded and wait for the next bunch of stock, perhaps that might take another 10-15 days or a month due to the semi conductor shortage issue otherwise I can just keep this phone and use it however it pisses me off that inspire of paying 1200$ for it. There are such manufacturing flaw.
Also I forgot to ask and You didn't mention, does your phone have similar gaps where you can slide a piece of paper with ease?
salvator101 said:
Hey thanks for the swift reply.
I live in India, the only feasible and best way to purchase it is via Amazon as they have a return period of 7 days if I purchase it from Samsung or any other local shop, there return period is max 24 hours which sucks.
I love the phone, love everything about it and especially now with the new iPhone out, I can still say that this crushes it, there is no other viable contender for it out there.
I can get it refunded and wait for the next bunch of stock, perhaps that might take another 10-15 days or a month due to the semi conductor shortage issue otherwise I can just keep this phone and use it however it pisses me off that inspire of paying 1200$ for it. There are such manufacturing flaw.
Also I forgot to ask and You didn't mention, does your phone have similar gaps where you can slide a piece of paper with ease?
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It is an annoying situation indeed... Mine doesn't have the gaps, no. It is the silver exynos 256gb.
I'd say this is a rare issue and getting another phone would 99.9% be gapless... 24h is enough to test it throughly as well, so... Definitely consider it.
It also beats the new iPhone and that's a fact.
Lolz
babyboy3265 said:
It is an annoying situation indeed... Mine doesn't have the gaps, no. It is the silver exynos 256gb.
I'd say this is a rare issue and getting another phone would 99.9% be gapless... 24h is enough to test it throughly as well, so... Definitely consider it.
It also beats the new iPhone and that's a fact.
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Yeah that truly sucks.
My phone just finished the battery learning usage calibrating and I'm getting around 5.5hrs of SOT which is horrible compared to what others are getting and all the reviews out there.
I'm using adaptive 120hz refresh, wifi and 4g on, light surfing usage + Bluetooth on and always connected to the watch + WQHD enabled
Is this battery life normal? how much of SOT are you getting?
I was shocked to see that some people got 8-10 hrs of SOT while I only get the half
salvator101 said:
Yeah that truly sucks.
My phone just finished the battery learning usage calibrating and I'm getting around 5.5hrs of SOT which is horrible compared to what others are getting and all the reviews out there.
I'm using adaptive 120hz refresh, wifi and 4g on, light surfing usage + Bluetooth on and always connected to the watch + WQHD enabled
Is this battery life normal? how much of SOT are you getting?
I was shocked to see that some people got 8-10 hrs of SOT while I only get the half
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I'm getting around 6 hours of SOT with one and a half days of mixed usage. All features of the phone enabled. I'm happy with it.
There are users on XDA who've reported 8-10 hours of SOT but I've never been able to achieve that routinely. I have managed to reach 8hrs of SOT a couple of times, but I had to disable 4G, use only wifi, disable background sync, not use my Galaxy Watch, not open any app that used camera, stay in dark mode with low screen brightness, automatic brightness disabled etc etc to achieve that.
I didn't like the experience so decided to use the phone to it's fullest capability and forget about SOT as long as I got through to my bedtime.
I used to feel envious of these people initially, wondering why my phone didn't get insane SOT but after a few months of using this phone, I just don't care anymore, as I get to the end of my typical day with half the battery remaining.
Everyone has a different usage pattern, so battery life can vary wildly. If you're unhappy, you can try to disable some features, try debloating etc to try to improve it and see how it goes for you
salvator101 said:
Yeah that truly sucks.
My phone just finished the battery learning usage calibrating and I'm getting around 5.5hrs of SOT which is horrible compared to what others are getting and all the reviews out there.
I'm using adaptive 120hz refresh, wifi and 4g on, light surfing usage + Bluetooth on and always connected to the watch + WQHD enabled
Is this battery life normal? how much of SOT are you getting?
I was shocked to see that some people got 8-10 hrs of SOT while I only get the half
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100% what the above comment said.
I also can get about 6h sot with everything enabled including AOD. I spare nothing and 5-6h SOT is more than enough.
It easily lasts a day and that does it for me.
All the people showing how they got 8h+ SOT are basically using the phone at a very limited capacity. Lowering everything to show others how much SOT u got, is similar to cheating in a game. It's not realistic.
Your s21u is better than anything else u even had n the past. it is okay that the SOT is less than some other phones, they don't have what ur phone has.
So enjoy and don't overthink it.
enigmaamit said:
I'm getting around 6 hours of SOT with one and a half days of mixed usage. All features of the phone enabled. I'm happy with it.
There are users on XDA who've reported 8-10 hours of SOT but I've never been able to achieve that routinely. I have managed to reach 8hrs of SOT a couple of times, but I had to disable 4G, use only wifi, disable background sync, not use my Galaxy Watch, not open any app that used camera, stay in dark mode with low screen brightness, automatic brightness disabled etc etc to achieve that.
I didn't like the experience so decided to use the phone to it's fullest capability and forget about SOT as long as I got through to my bedtime.
I used to feel envious of these people initially, wondering why my phone didn't get insane SOT but after a few months of using this phone, I just don't care anymore, as I get to the end of my typical day with half the battery remaining.
Everyone has a different usage pattern, so battery life can vary wildly. If you're unhappy, you can try to disable some features, try debloating etc to try to improve it and see how it goes for you
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babyboy3265 said:
100% what the above comment said.
I also can get about 6h sot with everything enabled including AOD. I spare nothing and 5-6h SOT is more than enough.
It easily lasts a day and that does it for me.
All the people showing how they got 8h+ SOT are basically using the phone at a very limited capacity. Lowering everything to show others how much SOT u got, is similar to cheating in a game. It's not realistic.
Your s21u is better than anything else u even had n the past. it is okay that the SOT is less than some other phones, they don't have what ur phone has.
So enjoy and don't overthink it.
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I get 5.5hrs max of SOT with screen on QHD+ 120hz enabled, wifi connected and galaxy watch connected. I have been trying to limit background apps an so but can't survive for more than 5.5hrs.
Max my phone lasts is for 18-19hrs with 5.5hrs of SOT.
I have gone through several reviews of people claiming 8hrs+
I don't even have heavy usage, all I use is WhatsApp, YouTube and chrome and a bit of Facebook.
Considering how light the usage is surely the battery life sucks?
As enigmaamit above also said that he has mixed usage and still gets 6+ hrs and mine is light usage and it still struggles so I wonder is this normal?
salvator101 said:
I get 5.5hrs max of SOT with screen on QHD+ 120hz enabled, wifi connected and galaxy watch connected. I have been trying to limit background apps an so but can't survive for more than 5.5hrs.
Max my phone lasts is for 18-19hrs with 5.5hrs of SOT.
I have gone through several reviews of people claiming 8hrs+
I don't even have heavy usage, all I use is WhatsApp, YouTube and chrome and a bit of Facebook.
Considering how light the usage is surely the battery life sucks?
As enigmaamit above also said that he has mixed usage and still gets 6+ hrs and mine is light usage and it still struggles so I wonder is this normal?
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There are too many variables into the equation...
FB uses plenty of battery for one.
Two, maybe where you are, your phone isn't catching great signal. usually when that happens, it drains the battery as the device is constantly trying to get better signal.
Maybe since you are not rooted you have plenty of bloatware that is draining your battery.
Additionally, putting usused apps to sleep, adaptive battery being ON, and also maybe you are using white mode instead of dark mode. Dark mode saves plenty of battery on our amoled screens.
Also I am rooted. So no bloatware. Battery fully calibrated. No draining apps. I use FB trough my KIWI browser with dark mode on for all pages.
If you get a full day, you are good.

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