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[Q] Audio on the HD7, Display, and Network...

Hi All,
So i am thinking of going for a HD 7 device and the only thing that's holding me back right now is other people's comments about the sound quality as well as the display on the device.
I saw a video on youtube that does a comparison between the HD7 and Surround and i was surprised by the difference - Surround seems to have a better output when it comes to colors and depth! Is that the case? Are you satisfied with the HD7's display?
Secondly... Since the HD7 does not have any front speakers (the grill's being there for show only), how does the audio on the device compare to others? I hate phones with low audio... It was the one thing i hated most about my iPhone and it was also a major thing with the X1 as well. I like a phone whose ring tone sounds proper...
Care to comment?
With that said... I'm living in Pakistan... so i'm pretty much having a family relative purchase it for me and bring it down for me. We don't have 3G here - shocking - but only Edge... so i imagine either one of TMobile or ATT should work with the networks here? iPhone and Xperia X1 and Xperia X10 didn't have any network problems down here...
Regards.
Salman Khalid

the display on the HD7 is absolutely fine.
It's not and Iphone 4 or an Amoled, but it is a perfectly fine LCD.
I think the sound for things like music, is louder on this phone than any other phone I've had.

The sound does sound weak when you first get the phone but for all hd7 owners you have to download the htc sound enhancer. This will enable Dolby mobile, srs enhancement or allow you to ustilize the equaliser. With out any of these settings on i have found voice quality and music to generally suffer a bit. enabling it has greatly enhanced the sound capabilites of both speaker and headphone quality.
Generally speaking, when you get your hd7 or any htc phone download all the htc apps from the htc hub, it will greatly enhance the expereince on the phone.

msanda_77 said:
The sound does sound weak when you first get the phone but for all hd7 owners you have to download the htc sound enhancer. This will enable Dolby mobile, srs enhancement or allow you to ustilize the equaliser. With out any of these settings on i have found voice quality and music to generally suffer a bit. enabling it has greatly enhanced the sound capabilites of both speaker and headphone quality.
Generally speaking, when you get your hd7 or any htc phone download all the htc apps from the htc hub, it will greatly enhance the expereince on the phone.
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Agreed I should have mentioned that as well... that was one of the first things I did. I've had Dolby enabled the whole time.

Thanks guys... definitely going for HTC! But now torn between the Surround and HD7... guess will throw the names into a hat and pick one out!

Dont no where you heard about the speakers but my HD7's two front grills do have speakers behind them. They dont sound as loud as the one @ the back by the camera but yes definitely has two front speakers.

Said that based on various posts across the forums and internet... PocketNow's review of HD7 clearly states them to be simply grills...
But i guess i'll find out eventually for myself: 'Coz i just placed an order for the HD7!!!

Personally I would choose the HD7 over the ATT surround as the speaker design is simply ugly and looks like some pocket radio from 1980.

f1restarter said:
Personally I would choose the HD7 over the ATT surround as the speaker design is simply ugly and looks like some pocket radio from 1980.
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Yeah... well, i do like the Surround a lot too... but i decided that the speaker, though has its charms, that charm'll probably fade away pretty quickly... HD7 seemed like the best bet.
I was for a moment thinking about the Samsung Focus 'coz of its MicroSD slot and the superior display... but bah! the HD7 is a better device! And as everyone's reporting, and as i know HTC to hold true to that fact... HTC'll probably provide the best support for their devices...

There is not two front facing speakers on the HD7
DJ Lu said:
Dont no where you heard about the speakers but my HD7's two front grills do have speakers behind them. They dont sound as loud as the one @ the back by the camera but yes definitely has two front speakers.
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I thought the same thing because i put my ear against the grills and heard sound from them...but it is only sound conducted through the case. It does look sweet though with identical grills on top and bottom.
Lancelot
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If you have SRS enhancements enabled, there are definitely speakers behind the front grills...I'm not sure why there is this misinformation going around but them being design only...sound comes out of them, take your phone apart, disconnect the rear speaker, and find out if you don't believe us

FiyaFleye said:
If you have SRS enhancements enabled, there are definitely speakers behind the front grills...I'm not sure why there is this misinformation going around but them being design only...sound comes out of them, take your phone apart, disconnect the rear speaker, and find out if you don't believe us
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So much misinformation is flowing around 'coz HTC is stupidly ignoring all of this instead of simply posting more info about it... Plus this guy took the HD7 apart to locate the SD card slot, and the bottom grill on his device didn't have anything behind it or such to make it appear as a speaker...
Possible that the top one is...

Unless the guy took apart the entire phone (why?), he would not see the front speakers if he were just replacing the hidden sd card. I believe HTC says that they're stereo speakers, hence real speakers on the top and bottom. Lastly, they do exist because I've demoed the phone and completely closed of the back speaker while listening to the front. Although not as loud as the back speaker, the front ones do play sound, and it wasn't just loud rear speaker sound playing through the case. I have an HD2 and when you completely close off the rear speaker sound, you do not hear any sound through the front of the case.

->> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9174769&postcount=40
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Well, I'll admit I humbly stand corrected. It must indeed be sound spill from the rear speaker then, even though I did the comparison as I stated in my previous post. So, then what renders the HD7 "stereo"? The earpiece speaker combined with the rear speaker? C'mon, HTC... Looks like someone's got some 'splainin' to do.....

Matt Wolf said:
? C'mon, HTC... Looks like someone's got some 'splainin' to do.....
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HTC never mentioned stereo for HD7 .
It’s theirs bad “shady” marketing strategy that makes you believe that you have stereo speakers.
That’s the main purpose of the bottom grill for the “second” speaker and there is a reason why its there.
That`s the main hook that does the job. Add the Dolby Mobile trademark and that’s it. They successfully installed and "created" stereo in our heads only.
If that doesn't do the job , than others so called reviewers will just put the cherry on the top.
Its the same with their 4.3 SUPER TFT that doesn't exist.
PS.
This is probably the explanation if they need one at all after all. (Not sure.)
** Dolby SRS MObile - Mono-to-Stereo Creator—adds depth to the playback of mono content that users download or create…

Google, turn the speaker around!

The speaker is decent. It even has good volume.
Iff you've got the tablet facing away from you!
This is really terrible placement of the speaker on this device. It's not a speaker for ringing as on a phone. It's a speaker that's meant to be heard when the tablet is in use with the display facing you. Cupping my hand over the speaker slit and extending that beyond the edge of the tablet works ... but isn't something you can really expect or want to do.
That's probably my biggest gripe with the tablet.
The screen isn't the best but.. I'll take it for the money.

Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:

I wish manufacturers would figure out a way to have forward-facing speakers... my G2x has a speaker on the bottom. Better, but seriously... watching a YouTube clip without cupping my hand around the device to reflect the sound to my face would be a nice change. Meh... not that big of a deal to me but I do agree with your frustration.

It seems simple to me, there is already a bevel on these devices. They just need to make the bevel a little bit larger on the side to let the sound out. This is what my TV does and it works very well.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2

I was looking at the design and from a "why did they do it that way?" perspective and two things are clear.
1. they want to present the face of the tablet as an unbroken sheet of glass (ohh, ahh!)
2. they don't want to incur the cost of putting a slit in the glass
They could reduce the size of the glass and have a very narrow molded plastic border on the top and bottom for stereo speakers. Would work a heck of a lot better but violate #1...
I really think they're destroying functionality for aesthetics.

Playbook (though bigger) does have forward facing speakers, and are probably the best sound that I've heard on a tablet mainly due to the placement.

its more so because on most phones, the microphone is at the bottom. putting a speaker next to a microphone never ends well. mainly because on calls where you use loud speaker, you'd get the endless loop/echo where the speaker feeds their audio back into the microphone. noise cancelling mics are useless for cancelling the audio since the noise cancelling mic is too far away from the speaker, so the latency doesnt help.

I somehow think putting a magnet aka speaker on the screen would cause problems with the capacitive touch.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

It sucks when you put the 7 on a stand and it is blocking the speaker and muffing the sound. But what can you do? Plug in some headphones that's what.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

Hexdecimal said:
Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
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Wait. What?! Can you provide a photo comparison of your device next to a iPad. This display has hardly any saturation or contrast compared to the iPad. The DAC in this thing is also horrid; audio sounds extremely bad with headphones. A world away from the Galaxy S III DAC.
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Hexdecimal said:
Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
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Well, I have both an iPad 3 and a Nexus 7, and while I like the Nexus 7 screen well enough, it doesn't really compare to the iPad's. Colors and saturation aren't even close, and nothing has text as good as the iPad (I think it's as much to do with how Android renders text as the resolution of the LCD). Don't get me wrong, text on the Nexus 7 is plenty good enough, but you can't say it's nearly as good as on the iPad.
My biggest problem with audio on the Nexus 7, both external and via headphones, is volume. It just doesn't get very loud. That's a complaint with the iPad 3, however, and really I have yet to come across a tablet with decent sound. So, that's not a fair knock against the Nexus 7.

Nexus 5 vs. LG Optimus G First Impressions

Hey all...
Haven't seen this particular comparison, so thought I'd post. The LGOG was my first Android phone, and it's basically a Nexus 4 + LTE and SD Card. Also a different form factor, though both have the glass back. We've gotten a good bit of dev support for the LGOG since it's very mako-like. It's been a good learning experience for me with a good community.
The short answer is that the Nexus (mine is a white 32 gig) is significantly better than the OG in every area I've compared so far. That might seem like a no-brainer, but the OG was the G2 of its time, less than a year ago. It's no slouch.
- Form factor of the Nexus 5 is much easier to hold than the OG. N5 is slightly taller but slightly narrower, which is a big deal. I've got big hands, but the width of the OG annoyed me. OG is also slippery with that glass. I had a case on it which made it a bit more bulky, but it was necessary to keep it from flying out of my hand. The N5 is still slightly slippery, but shaped more comfortably. No glass is also a plus.
- I didn't expect to see much difference in the screen. Seriously - how much better could 1080p be than 720p at these screen sizes? But wow, there's a difference. Much sharper and clearer. I agree with those who have said it's a little on the washed out/bright side, but that can be addressed with kernel mods.
- The Snapdragon 800 is impressive. Definitely snappier than the already snappy S4 Pro in the OG. You can still see the "Android Scrolling Stutter" on occasion, especially in the Facebook app and sometimes in Chrome, but the whole package is super fast. Reinstalling 100 apps was very quick and there's no lag outside of the rare scrolling issue.
- Maybe more important for me than the speed was the sound. OG has ... ummmm ... less than optimal sound. Not sure if it was the same in the N4, but even the old iPhone just blow it out of the water. Low output, a little noisy, a little thin. Just not good. So far, the N5 is hugely better, I believe due to the DAC on the 800. Output through the headphone jack, which I run to my car stereo, has a much higher output level and no audible noise at normal volumes. This makes me happy.
- Likewise, the external speaker on the N5 is a huge improvement over the OG. OG was thin sounding and bottom-facing - not a good combo. To hear videos, I had to cup my hand around the back and direct the sound towards ... you know ... my ears. N5 speaker is louder, definitely has more lower end, and is actually usable to listen to music. Ringtones, for some reason, aren't nearly as loud as music, but sound is again easy adjustable with kernel tweaks.
- Phone sound quality is another area of great gain. I "worked from home" today while waiting for the phone, and when I got it I called my wife. Night and day sound. Really sounded like she was right next to me. OG wasn't bad, but N5 is impressive. The speaker phone on the N5 is just an extension of the previously-mentioned external speaker, and the better quality carries over. I had an hour-long work conference call this afternoon and voices were loud and clear.
This is too long already, so I'll stop. But I'm a satisfied man on first take here. Looking forward to playing around with it more, getting an idea of battery life and checking out some dev work.
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Sound quality and volume?

Hi, I could see some "hands on" and "unboxing" videos of n6, but it seems like nobody mentioned how the pair of speakers sounds or how the incall speaker is. I assume that the n6 sound quality and volume is good.
Anyone?

Android police wrote a paragraph on sound quality in their first impressions piece with the phone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/

Ry4n said:
Android police wrote a paragraph on sound quality in their first impressions piece with the phone.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
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"The Speakers
I was excited to find that - unlike the Moto X - both of the Nexus 6's speakers work when playing media, not just the bottom one. When Google says stereo speakers, they mean it. I'm not an audio buff by any stretch of the imagination, so I can only comment from my limited frame of reference. That said, the Nexus 6 speakers get plenty loud, but for example the bass tones in Vitalic's Bluesy Tuesday aren't entirely rich or full, and the bubbly high notes of Classixx's Hanging Gardens do experience distortion at higher volumes. In general though, the speakers do sound good. They aren't exactly on the same level as HTC's BoomSound on the M8, but they're definitely passable, and for myself - a person who rarely listens to music on phone speakers - they're good."
We live in a multimedia age of instant video & microblogging yet we can only read about its speakers & wait weeks for reviews.. perhaps it's still easier to monetize text articles but why not have a real time text-multimedia review article that can be updated along the way in real time with actual video demonstrations..:victory:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2014/11/01/hands-on-with-googles-nexus-6/ makes it more clear:
My Nexus 6 review unit arrived yesterday and after a day of testing, I can say that it compares well against the iPhone 6 Plus. Google isn’t allowing reviewers to publish full-scale reviews until November 12th, but is permitting “first impressions.”..
Great screen and sound quality
The Nexus 6 1440 by 2560 pixel (493 ppi) display is brilliant and compares very well to the iPhone 6 Plus’s 1920 by 1080 pixel (401 ppi) screen. You can’t go wrong either way when it comes to screen resolution. I watched a Netflix video and read portions of a Kindle book on the Nexus 6 and while watching video on a large phone isn’t quite as immersive as watching it on a tablet, it’s not bad. And the sound quality from the Nexus 6 front mounted stereo speakers is excellent. The speakers are at the top and bottom of the phone, which means they’re left and right with as much separation as possible when the phone is held in landscape position. With the volume cranked all the way up, I could hear it well from anywhere in an average-sized living room without significant distortion. It’s one of the few phones I would consider listening to without headphones.

Speakerphone (loudness, clarity)

Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel 2's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I was astonished when I heard the speakers for myself, they are really loud but clear!

they're good, but not great.
I like the speakers, but they need some tweaking, the sound isn't as full bodied as my HTC One M7 was. They're clear sounding, but a bit tinny for my taste. I'll be happy when some eq mods get implemented.

I was really pleasantly surprised by them. They are just as loud as my Nexus 6P WITH the Viper4Android soundboost all the way up. Once I get V4A on the Pixel 2 I wonder just how loud it will actually get. Sounds amazing for such a small phone too, wow.

Got mine in yesterday. nice crisp clear sound... but the earpiece speaker is treble biased, and the bottom speaker is bass biased...
Makes things sound really weird when listening to music or watching movies in landscape...
I am getting an exchange unit and will update when that unit comes in.
Update: Exchange unit came in... I've been using it for a few days now, and I have noticed no difference from my last unit... an hour on the phone with google device engineers got me the response that this is by design to increase the frequency range... I still don"t like it as it bothers me..
who wants to buy a gently used pixel2?

ApoKyla said:
Got mine in yesterday. nice crisp clear sound... but the earpiece speaker is treble biased, and the bottom speaker is bass biased...
Makes things sound really weird when listening to music or watching movies in landscape...
I am getting an exchange unit and will update when that unit comes in.
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The same situation. Is it feature or defect? Can anybody confirm it? Thanks.

Anyone's speakers distorting or crackling? Coming from iPhone 7. Speakers on iphone are not loud, but they do sound good. Pixel 2 by comparison is tinny and crackle at higher volumes.
Coincidentally, I'm RMAing the Pixel 2 right now for ticking noise in earpiece and constant high frequency emission. Wondering if maybe my speakers are no bueno too. No one else seems to have the speaker distortion or at least too early.
Edit: I was playing "Bridge Burn" by little comets when i noticed. Then played thievery corporation's "Culture of Fear". Maybe someone else can compare?

Elvis_Stojko said:
Anyone's speakers distorting or crackling? Coming from iPhone 7. Speakers on iphone are not loud, but they do sound good. Pixel 2 by comparison is tinny and crackle at higher volumes.
Coincidentally, I'm RMAing the Pixel 2 right now for ticking noise in earpiece and constant high frequency emission. Wondering if maybe my speakers are no bueno too. No one else seems to have the speaker distortion or at least too early.
Edit: I was playing "Bridge Burn" by little comets when i noticed. Then played thievery corporation's "Culture of Fear". Maybe someone else can compare?
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I just got mine today I do not have the sound in the ear piece and also my forward face speakers are crisp loud and clear with just a slight thumping for base it amazing to my ears but what do I know I came from a s6 ?

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I just got mine today I do not have the sound in the ear piece and also my forward face speakers are crisp loud and clear with just a slight thumping for base it amazing to my ears but what do I know I came from a s6 ?
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Thank you sir. New phone will be here Wednesday. We shall see.

Elvis_Stojko said:
Thank you sir. New phone will be here Wednesday. We shall see.
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hope u get one without issues

Elvis_Stojko said:
Anyone's speakers distorting or crackling? Coming from iPhone 7. Speakers on iphone are not loud, but they do sound good. Pixel 2 by comparison is tinny and crackle at higher volumes.
Coincidentally, I'm RMAing the Pixel 2 right now for ticking noise in earpiece and constant high frequency emission. Wondering if maybe my speakers are no bueno too. No one else seems to have the speaker distortion or at least too early.
Edit: I was playing "Bridge Burn" by little comets when i noticed. Then played thievery corporation's "Culture of Fear". Maybe someone else can compare?
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My speakers seem to rattle a little at max volume, even just with Google Assistant or navigating. Haven't noticed any issues on calls though I haven't made a lot since I got my Pixel 2.
Overall quality seems all right a few notches down from max, but is quite noticeably worse than my nexus 6.

Speakers
Could anybody check if speakers are producing the same sound (you can cover it by finger). My unit's top speaker has more hights, bottom one has more mids and bass. Maybe it's by design. I am not sure. Thank you.

ales005 said:
Could anybody check if speakers are producing the same sound (you can cover it by finger). My unit's top speaker has more hights, bottom one has more mids and bass. Maybe it's by design. I am not sure. Thank you.
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Yes, absolutely agree with you. Bottom is far better at base and mids. Top speaker is opposite.

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The same situation. Is it feature or defect? Can anybody confirm it? Thanks.
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It could be related to separate dedicated drivers in each speaker (Allowing for larger respective drivers), or simply an equalization software aspect.

The Dark Knight Patriot said:
It could be related to separate dedicated drivers in each speaker (Allowing for larger respective drivers), or simply an equalization software aspect.
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Ditto here. Noticed it right out of the box. Top is treble biased, bottom is bass. It seems design derivative. Also possible too because the top speaker is also used for earpiece/speakerphone?
Waiting for more confirmation from google whether this is real or defect. Good to hear from here I'm not the only one.
No issue though with the phone so far.

https://9to5google.com/2017/10/24/t...2-sound-completely-different-heres-why-video/

The are crystal clear but when I compare them to my nexus 6, the bass is better on the nexus

Elvis_Stojko said:
Anyone's speakers distorting or crackling? Coming from iPhone 7. Speakers on iphone are not loud, but they do sound good. Pixel 2 by comparison is tinny and crackle at higher volumes.
Coincidentally, I'm RMAing the Pixel 2 right now for ticking noise in earpiece and constant high frequency emission. Wondering if maybe my speakers are no bueno too. No one else seems to have the speaker distortion or at least too early.
Edit: I was playing "Bridge Burn" by little comets when i noticed. Then played thievery corporation's "Culture of Fear". Maybe someone else can compare?
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Also have the ticking sound, and so so sounding speakers. Trying to RMA. Apparently turning off NFC is supposed to help with the ticking sound. Haven't done it myself....too many digital reward cards

Noticed quite a bit of distortion when navigating at max volume. The voice is full bodied and, combined with the software EQ choice, I think it hits that perfect low-mid tone and overpowers the speakers. Stepping it down two notches basically eliminates it. Also noticed that the speakers are very directional compared to the OG pixel XL. Had both devices playing the same music and Pixel 2 audio disappears when faced away compared to the OG pixel which was much more audible when the speaker was pointed away. I think the amount of bass they are trying to offer is lofty and unattainable and the device would sound better with a bit more mid and less extreme treble and bass. If I decide to keep this device I'll be praying for the dev community to offer up some display and audio tweaks. P.S. I haven't noticed the ticking/noise from the speakers on my device but I think if they dropped this ultra hifi EQ choice, a slight drop in highs would probably make it much less noticeable or might make it disappear completely if the frequency could be isolated and cut (I'm looking at you 6kHz and above).

Can anyone get me /etc, /lib & /bin folders? I might take a look if there is any ways to improve your device's speakers