I tried in the Note 3 forum but it's a cluster fu.. over there so I am gonna try here. Does anyone or has anyone used this plan? I want to switch to this one so I can use my phone as a hot spotfor my computer when I'm at home but I don't want to hit some fine print limit. So I'm hoping someone here has done the same in the past.
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I tried in the Note 3 forum but it's a cluster fu.. over there so I am gonna try here. Does anyone or has anyone used this plan? I want to switch to this one so I can use my phone as a hot spotfor my computer when I'm at home but I don't want to hit some fine print limit. So I'm hoping someone here has done the same in the past.
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That will give you truly unlimited data from your phone, with I think 3gb of native tethering.
Do a search and you'll find a lot of answers on how to acomplish what you're trying to do.
Keywords: WiFi tether router
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That will give you truly unlimited data from your phone, with I think 3gb of native tethering.
Do a search and you'll find a lot of answers on how to acomplish what you're trying to do.
Keywords: WiFi tether router
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Thanks For The reply but that's not quite was I was asking about. Getting around the tethering limits is relatively easy I was curious if I use say 100gb playing like Final Fantasy 14 plus my normal usage will t-mobile come at me and say I've used to much data you know?
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Thanks For The reply but that's not quite was I was asking about. Getting around the tethering limits is relatively easy I was curious if I use say 100gb playing like Final Fantasy 14 plus my normal usage will t-mobile come at me and say I've used to much data you know?
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No, you will be fine.
Like I've said, do a search and you will see that people here are using hundreds of gigs, some even 1tb+. Truly unlimited is truly unlimited.
I do 300+gb a month and never experienced a slow down or anything of that nature.. Blast for it..
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I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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Some of these people who use it as a dedicated internet shouldn't advertise it.
this is not how T-mobile setup their plans.
$80 unlimited is phone only data. The plan included 5GB tethering over t-mobile hotspot app.
I hope carriers block the abusers and not punish us all
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I hate how some people take advantage of *unlimited data. Eventually they will do away with it because of this type of use
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Agreed. We already went from $70 unlimited to now $80 unlimited.
??? Self-limited or Communty-limited, Unlimited Data ???
Why should someone who is paying for an unlimited data service, not utilize it as to their own prospective needs, or be punished/restricted for doing so???? Anyone urging the same for anyone elses say, TV usage??? Or HULU views??? Isn't it at all feasible, in this world of tolerance (haha), that someones legitimate needs might just be different from someone elses???
Wanna punish someone??? Why not suggest say, the Service Provider, who makes BILLIONS (in profit) annually, providing a service that CLEARLY does NOT cost what is charged, by any reasonable standard?!?!? And I'm OFF my SOAPBOX!!!
Sorry for the rant as well...
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lol? I pay for unlimited, I use unlimited, whats the problem?
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Why should someone who is paying for an unlimited data service, not utilize it as to their own prospective needs, or be punished/restricted for doing so???? Anyone urging the same for anyone elses say, TV usage??? Or HULU views??? Isn't it at all feasible, in this world of tolerance (haha), that someones legitimate needs might just be different from someone elses???
Wanna punish someone??? Why not suggest say, the Service Provider, who makes BILLIONS (in profit) annually, providing a service that CLEARLY does NOT cost what is charged, by any reasonable standard?!?!? And I'm OFF my SOAPBOX!!!
Sorry for the rant as well...
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Consciously using and abusing versus using subconscious is different. Like me I don't monitor what I use. is use Wi-Fi when I can, etc. I don't rely on my MOBILE phone for my internet. Why don't they get an ISP for heavy use. If you use 100gb pm on a cellphone in a billing period, you must not work and thus you should have access to a WiFi network. To brag about using high amount of data is duh mm .. Learn the game! I'm thinking of the future I don't want them to punish all of a for a few defiant couch potatoes
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Why should someone who is paying for an unlimited data service, not utilize it as to their own prospective needs, or be punished/restricted for doing so???? Anyone urging the same for anyone elses say, TV usage??? Or HULU views??? Isn't it at all feasible, in this world of tolerance (haha), that someones legitimate needs might just be different from someone elses???
Wanna punish someone??? Why not suggest say, the Service Provider, who makes BILLIONS (in profit) annually, providing a service that CLEARLY does NOT cost what is charged, by any reasonable standard?!?!? And I'm OFF my SOAPBOX!!!
Sorry for the rant as well...
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This is America ...... EVERYTHING is over priced. That's a moot argument. My argument is on principal and moral. I'm not defending the business at all. They all can lower prices. But I like the idea when I use my LTE I don't have to count !megabytes, when people use LTE on purpose because they feel they can now we risk losing unlimited
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I can see both the points. Eventually the "abusers" will lift the already high prices to an even higher point. That being said - we, as Americans, get absolutely raped on the cost of our service. Not to mention we are among the slowest in the world when we take what we pay into consideration. So part of me is saying "**** these corporate criminals..." Another part is saying "easy does it...don't ruin a relatively good thing..."
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lol? I pay for unlimited, I use unlimited, whats the problem?
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"Consciously using and abusing... Followed by... Why don't they get an ISP... Followed by... You must not work???"
Im REALLY sorry NOW... That I said ANYTHING lol... Why didnt I think of those points to make?!?!?
The point of he T-Mobile network isn't about coverage it's about data that's what they advertise is the "data strong " network they have set up their network to handle the amount of data that is being used unlike the other carriers that have capped data
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Consciously using and abusing versus using subconscious is different. Like me I don't monitor what I use. is use Wi-Fi when I can, etc. I don't rely on my MOBILE phone for my internet. Why don't they get an ISP for heavy use. If you use 100gb pm on a cellphone in a billing period, you must not work and thus you should have access to a WiFi network. To brag about using high amount of data is duh mm .. Learn the game! I'm thinking of the future I don't want them to punish all of a for a few defiant couch potatoes
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This is America ...... EVERYTHING is over priced. That's a moot argument. My argument is on principal and moral. I'm not defending the business at all. They all can lower prices. But I like the idea when I use my LTE I don't have to count !megabytes, when people use LTE on purpose because they feel they can now we risk losing unlimited
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First of all jack ass I was throwing an arbitrary number out there. I have no idea how much data a MMO pulls. Secondly what's the difference between using a cell phone for my Internet and using Comcast besides I can get similar speed for a much better price using T-Mobile. I am only home for maybe two hours after work and that's enough time to eat mess around on the computer for a bit and crash so **** off with your generalizations. It'd make zero sense for me to spend an extra $100/mo on Comcast just to use maybe 20hrs/wk. If you want to pay my bill then I'll call them tomorrow. If not piss off.
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not saying the companies don't make a lot of money, but you do realize that its not 100% profit, setting up 4G LTE and LTE+ speeds for networks is HUGELY expensive.
That being said, competition will always drive prices lower. I sell phones/activations and trust me, 95% of people use 1 gb (or less) each month. we are such a minority that it doesn't matter how much we use.
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not saying the companies don't make a lot of money, but you do realize that its not 100% profit, setting up 4G LTE and LTE+ speeds for networks is HUGELY expensive.
That being said, competition will always drive prices lower. I sell phones/activations and trust me, 95% of people use 1 gb (or less) each month. we are such a minority that it doesn't matter how much we use.
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Well said. The man in the business said it himself and I know a hand full of people in the business and they all have said the same.
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I can see both the points. Eventually the "abusers" will lift the already high prices to an even higher point. That being said - we, as Americans, get absolutely raped on the cost of our service. Not to mention we are among the slowest in the world when we take what we pay into consideration. So part of me is saying "**** these corporate criminals..." Another part is saying "easy does it...don't ruin a relatively good thing..."
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You're absolutely right. It can go both ways, but at the end of the day truly unlimited is truly unlimited. No matter what the nay sayers may think, their opinion can't over rule the fact that truly unlimited is what it is. Lol...
TM, pushed the whole truly unlimited campaign like mad angry birds head on first. Now that customers are utilizing a service that they signed up for, doesn't give TM any right to try and take that away. Truly Unlimited Data is what customers are paying for.
So for them to even complain now is called: hypocrisy.
It also seems that the ones complaining are perhaps jealous or can't afford the $80 plan or maybe jealous of those who have a grandfathered unlimited plan? Who knows. ..
The fact remains, no matter how you tip the scale, documentation will beat conversation any day.
Truly Unlimited is Truly Unlimited. Pretty black and white to me.
And for goodness sake, what's the difference of streaming 1080p Netflix on your phone vs your 1080p TV? ROFL....
bipoler said:
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If someone uses 10000gb in a month or 10gb a month the infrastructure cost doesn't change.
I use on average 15-20 GB a month. T-Mobile is flat out the best carrier with the best prices for what they offer. If I'm paying for unlimited data, regardless of whether I use 20 or I use 200 it shouldn't make any difference. T-Mobile makes it a point to advertise that truly unlimited means just that: truly unlimited. They expect people to switch to their network for that very reason. I don't see the person using 300gb a month as an abuser; he/she is taking advantage of a service that is being paid for. They aren't doing it in an unethical way or cheating the system.
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394939,00.asp#fbid=M227xC8oyTv
A T-Mobile customer in Florida was "shaking and crying" when she received a phone bill of more than $200,000 last month, largely because her younger brother didn't turn off data roaming during a vacation in Canada.
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they really need to offer more unlimited plans, including unlimited roaming, and unlimited internationals
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2394939,00.asp#fbid=M227xC8oyTv
they really need to offer more unlimited plans, including unlimited roaming, and unlimited internationals
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I thought this was funny as hell least tmo was nice n cut it
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Ohhhh....that had to be terrifyingly devastating to see. T-Mob really ought to drop that, or at least drop it down to where it's reasonable.
I would say even 2500 is just, I can't even put in to words. I would never use them again and I would take them to court over it. ( I never herd of more than a $1500 phone bill and that was a mistake.) I mean 250 would sting, but you could likely pay that and not do that again. T-mob you are just, can't put in words bad.
And stupid crap like this is why the government wants to step in.
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If that idiot brother kept texting and using data and was getting the $50, $100, etc warnings like Tmobile said he was getting, it is completely his fault. It wasn't like he just left roaming enabled during his vacation. He actively used the connection without knowing the consequences. I think they should have to pay more than $2500.
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Hey Zeus Christo!
Teenager brother (porno lover) + Trip abroad (no girlfriend) + Roaming (no WIFI) = BAD COMBINATION
Cpl of u miss the part where it says they are deaf? They weren't retarded
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ckoadiyn said:
Cpl of u miss the part where it says they are deaf? They weren't retarded
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i personally have an in law that is born deaf, so i feel for the lady paying the bills
Texting is their only way of communication with the rest of the "human" word
Wow...that's a nasty phone bill. About a year and a half ago i got a bill for my landline for over 300 GBP. That's just over 400 USD i think. my cousin and others had been using the phone a lot to make international calls. The bill was for a 3 month period or something like that. Can't remember. But yeah...and i thought that was bad!
Oh well....that's how it goes sometime. Still...a six figure phone bill is insane. The overseas data charges are crazy high all over it seems.
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Cpl of u miss the part where it says they are deaf? They weren't retarded
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Ignoring warnings that you've run up $50, $100, $200, $500 in data roaming is pretty stupid.
O2 sends out warnings at £20, £40, and caps it at 50MB, unless you've agreed more.
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If that idiot brother kept texting and using data and was getting the $50, $100, etc warnings like Tmobile said he was getting, it is completely his fault. It wasn't like he just left roaming enabled during his vacation. He actively used the connection without knowing the consequences. I think they should have to pay more than $2500.
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you wouldnt be saying that if it was your account and your younger brother. get real.
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you wouldnt be saying that if it was your account and your younger brother. get real.
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I think they should cut it to 250 and change how they bill things.
I just can't believe how little consumer protection regulation there seems to be in the US.
Damn, that's a house right there.
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I just can't believe how little consumer protection regulation there seems to be in the US.
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It's only recently that UK/Europe has had protection to roaming fees, and it ONLY applies within the EU. In fact, only recently, Watchdog was talking about people who didn't turn off data when abroad and got hit with ridiculous bills.
holy crap. i would think that the carrier would have disconnected the phone way earlier.
thats insane!
I worked at Verizon Wireless for over a year. The worst I ever saw was 40K. Damn data roaming...
Seems like it's mostly her brother's fault. But at least they're taking care of her.
Ouch, that's all I can say.
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How much unlimited 4G LTE data have you used in 1 billing cycle?
I used 168 GB last month.
I'm at 96GB and taking it easy, just don't know how far I can push it, lol..
Stupid question. 4G LTE is unlimited with T-Mobile?
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Temetka said:
Stupid question. 4G LTE is unlimited with T-Mobile?
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http://www.tmonews.com/2014/08/t-mo...s-who-use-unlimited-lte-data-for-torrentsp2p/
http://m.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-will-throttle-data-unlimited-lte-users-if-data-used-p2p-sharing
T Mobile doesn't throttle until 1TB.
I used about 56gb last month.
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T Mobile doesn't throttle until 1TB.
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Thank you, this is the kind of info I'm looking for
And how is this related to the Note 4?
I avg 10GB. I could have use more.
How the heck? Apparently ain't no one on here got WIFI. Who uses 92GB a month? I use 6GB and my damn speeds are reduced but guess what. My bill cycle restarts the 9th. Ain't after that if my **** is slow and gets slow I will go back I'm paying for unlimited plus an extra $20
964 GBs last month. Torrents!!!!
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964 GBs last month. Torrents!!!!
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You deserve to be throttled in and out of your house. Wow that's just abusing the damn system. Damn YOU guy, get wifi fuukin the speeds up for other people with your traffic!
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You deserve to be throttled in and out of your house. Wow that's just abusing the damn system. Damn YOU guy, get wifi fuukin the speeds up for other people with your traffic!
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I pay for my unlimited. Period. I travel a lot and do not have access to steady WiFi all the time. I don't care what you think to be honest. I'm about to hit 300 gigs and it's only the 7th.
356gb.. All data
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I pay for my unlimited. Period. I travel a lot and do not have access to steady WiFi all the time. I don't care what you think to be honest. I'm about to hit 300 gigs and it's only the 7th.
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Hell yeah! Haha haha. To the lames saying this is abusing the data stfu you just mad your petty ass isn't grandfathered on the TRUELY unlimited plan. We pay for our services, we have the right to use how much or little we please
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Im currently at 355GB thanks to unlmited data and LTE using my XBox One to download those full 30+GB games and online gaming.
You know....as much as it would seem right to agree with the conservatives, you're right and it's pretty darn hard to argue against.
If you are paying for truly UNLIMITED service (most of us grandfathered in like me) then that means just that. TRULY UNLIMITED.
Last time I've checked, it didn't say FALSELY Unlimited.
For the few of you, quit the b!*#(ing already. UNLIMITED means UNLIMITED. This is TM's bad...don't claim something to entice people then turn around and try to set limits on that. That's called....hypocrite? Well they have...but oh well...at least it's made clear now with the current plans offered....fair enough. Full disclosure. Oh well....
It seems that the ones getting butt hurt over all this are the ones (some) who are not grandfathered? So it seems....jealous?
IMO though, I do think that for those who have WiFi available, to use that over LTE if you can, BUT again...that's the users rightful choice on what he/she wants to do with their UNLIMITED Data.
You have to remember, we're the ones getting robbed here. Not TM. They make plenty of money from those who are on set data limit plans.
Bottom line: Don't advertise something as Truly Unlimited just to get/entice customers and once your @$$ is full from eating, try and turn it around on the Customers.
Long live the Unlimited Data and Kudos to you Data nuts!
PERIOD.
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Hell yeah! Haha haha. To the lames saying this is abusing the data stfu you just mad your petty ass isn't grandfathered on the TRUELY unlimited plan. We pay for our services, we have the right to use how much or little we please
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Im currently at 355GB thanks to unlmited data and LTE using my XBox One to download those full 30+GB games and online gaming.
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Bruuuh you getting gta 5?
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Bruuuh you getting gta 5?
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Negative. I never liked any of the GTA games. Currently on Titanfall and COD.
I did a 100% clean flash using the factory images. I pay for the hotspot service but when i go to use it it give the error "Your order could not be processed" anyone else having similiar issues?
Did you flash the Google image or the Verizon image? if its the Google Image I would think you would have to edit the same files you did to make it work in 5. 0. 1.
My hotspot never worked 'out of the box' so to speak. but I am grandfathered in with the unlimited plan so I'm not sure the right answer is.
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Ok i just got off the phone with Verizon apparently it they were not billing me and when i spoke to them yesterday about advanced calling they must have turned it off.
So disregard this information.
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Ok i just got off the phone with Verizon apparently it they were not billing me and when i spoke to them yesterday about advanced calling they must have turned it off.
So disregard this information.
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Next question is "why would you pay $29.99 a month for something you can change in the build.prop for free?" I understand that you want to be legal but you are paying for your data already, why pay again? I already give them $292.00 a month for 4 lines and only one grandfathered unlimited, I refuse to give them anymore for my data.
Yes, I am not sure how it is legal for them to charge you extra for a hotspot. Even if I had plan that had X gigabytes a month I don't think it is very fair to charge me extra to use my X amount of data however I please. Pretty amazing after the FCC gave them the smackdown over this. I guess if you go with the "Share Everything" plan the hotspot is included.
A few thoughts this.... Yeah they shouldn't be able to charge for this but they can charge for the app that enables it.... Second I haven't paid for it in years and always felt weird using it... Started to pay for it.... 10 a month for me for unlimited and I started to use the **** out of it... Worth 10 for the comfort when using it.
Well its common practice to charge extra for tethering even in the UK. You pay for "unlimited data" but that package is to be designed to be used from a mobile handset. As soon as they allow you to tether, that changes from a mobile handset to home broadband and the propensity to massively saturate the cell network increases dramatically when the connecting device is an actual computer compared to a mobile device. I'm in two minds about this, where I believe I should be able to use data for what I want of its unlimited. That said, if everyone tethered, my mobile data experience would be much poorer. It is what it is.
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A few thoughts this.... Yeah they shouldn't be able to charge for this but they can charge for the app that enables it.... Second I haven't paid for it in years and always felt weird using it... Started to pay for it.... 10 a month for me for unlimited and I started to use the **** out of it... Worth 10 for the comfort when using it.
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There is no app, it's built in, if you are on Verizon edit 2 system files and done. It is an option to enable in the pull downs.
Yes people were abusing it back when it was unlimited but those plans only exist on the business side now.
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Just add net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to the biuld.prop. No need to pay for tether. I have unlimited data and use the theater for free on my vz nex6
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Yes, I am not sure how it is legal for them to charge you extra for a hotspot. Even if I had plan that had X gigabytes a month I don't think it is very fair to charge me extra to use my X amount of data however I please. Pretty amazing after the FCC gave them the smackdown over this.
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What that consent decree was about was Verizon pressuring Google to remove the tethering apps from the play store. Clearly Verizon is not allowed to do that. What is not clear is whether or not Verizon can pressure the device manufacturers to put software on the devices that allow Verizon to do a subscription check and deny the user the ability to use the MHS functionality of the device w/o paying money to Verizon. I suspect if the FCC thought that was illegal, they would have included that as part of the consent decree.
The FCC isn't a court though so to know for sure if a court would find it a violation of the Block C restrictions, someone would have to have standing to sue the FCC to enforce the Block C license restrictions under a writ of mandamus. An owner of a device who was subscriber of Verizon under a legacy plan would have standing to sue but they would have to want to spend the money to sue the FCC. There would be no damages to recover from the FCC so you would be paying out of pocket for this with no chance of a monetary recovery to recoup the costs of litigation.
If you won, all you would get out of it is an order from the FCC ordering Verizon to stop pressuring the manufacturers to put software like that on devices and maybe you could get an order ordering Verizon to work with the manufacturers to update the software on the devices that already have the blocking software on them. And you may lose if your legal arguments aren't strong. So obviously, that is why no one does it.
Having said that, it is PERFECTLY LEGAL for you to mod the device and/or use an app to unblock the devices MHS functionality on your own and there is nothing Verizon can do to stop you.
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I guess if you go with the "Share Everything" plan the hotspot is included.
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Yes, the More Everything plans have capped data but MHS functionality is not blocked on the device.
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A few thoughts this.... Yeah they shouldn't be able to charge for this but they can charge for the app that enables it....
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That's debatable. However, like I pointed out above, if the FCC thought that Verizon was violating the terms of the block C license restrictions by doing that, I am sure they would have included it in the earlier consent decree. As I also pointed out above, the FCC isn't the last word on what is a violation of the block C license restrictions. But no one else is going to bother doing anything about it.
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Second I haven't paid for it in years and always felt weird using it... Started to pay for it.... 10 a month for me for unlimited and I started to use the **** out of it... Worth 10 for the comfort when using it.
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How is it only $10 for the MHS for you?
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Yes people were abusing it back when it was unlimited but those plans only exist on the business side now.
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That's not true. I have 5 UDP lines on a consumer account.
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elliott35 said:
Just add net.tethering.noprovisioning=true to the biuld.prop. No need to pay for tether. I have unlimited data and use the theater for free on my vz nex6
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Do you know does that stop the subscription check entirely so that a query never gets sent to Verizon?
Really I can go out and buy an unlimited (consumer) plan on Verizon right now? I don't think so.
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Really I can go out and buy an unlimited (consumer) plan on Verizon right now? I don't think so.
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No but you can't buy a business unlimited plan any longer either.
You said UDP only exists on the business plans. Anyone who had UDP when Verizon eliminated the option can keep it be it a business or a consumer account. But no new UDP lines except during the Apple glitch.
Stopping Network Abusers: An Open Letter to T-Mobile Customers
FYI.
Thanks, Biker1.
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FYI.
The link is down.
I'm linking to it here:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/issues-...rk-abusers.htm
It's MY data. I will do with it as I please.
Your data? You own the cellular towers and the wireless spectrum?
Good for T-Mobile. Hope they catch all the jokers who abuse the system
Really glad T-Mobile is going this route. At least they found a way to keep Unlimited and not cut it out completely like AT&T and Verizon did (not that I use it, anyway) and I'm glad they're taking measures to make sure that the rest of us don't have to deal with congestion or unfair practices commited by others.
I mean, if i pay for unlimited data then tethering shouldn't be seen as a huge problem...
Sometimes i need a large file to be stored/opened on my desktop computer. I could download the file onto my phone over LTE and then just transfer the file from phone to computer, or i could tether my connection and avoid waiting the time it would take to transfer the file from one device to the other. The point being - if i pay for unlimited data then i'm definitely going to use as much as i want. I do not have an internet connection at my house currently as i'm moving out very soon, however i still like to watch Netflix in my downtime/before bed/etc. I would still be using my unlimited data to stream shows or movies if i were to watch things on my device but i would rather WiFi tether so that i can cast it to my chromecast. I'm not using any MORE data than i would if i had not tethered.
I understand T-Mobile would be mad because they're not making money off an additional service they charge for convenience. But it doesn't necessarily mean i'm abusing the unlimited 4g that i pay monthly for.
So, since he didn't say what "technology" they "now" have, I will take a wild guess and assume T-Mo will blindly shoot those messages out to folks who "exhibit" signs of tethering. Unless they packed another sniffer into the FW, there is not much they can do, especially if one uses a vpn service. I may be wrong, so share whatever knowledge you have.
I too question how they're going to find out who's "abusing." But I agree with their fight against the abusers. It is not cool to pay $30/mo for unlimited LTE data and use it as your primary home internet connection when T-Mobile didn't intend for it to be used that way. They still have truly unlimited for a reason, along with all their other un-carrier moves. They're trying to make the industry better for consumers. Don't take advantage of the one good wireless company we have.
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Your data? You own the cellular towers and the wireless spectrum?
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Oh you sweet summer child...
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Nitemare3219 said:
I too question how they're going to find out who's "abusing." But I agree with their fight against the abusers. It is not cool to pay $30/mo for unlimited LTE data and use it as your primary home internet connection when T-Mobile didn't intend for it to be used that way. They still have truly unlimited for a reason, along with all their other un-carrier moves. They're trying to make the industry better for consumers. Don't take advantage of the one good wireless company we have.
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I do tether, but I also don't do it that often. I actually try to build up my data stash (I pay for 11GB/mo) yet I also download heavy once or twice a month.
Seriously, who the f**k uses 2TB of cellular data each month? That's what all-in-one plans are for.
For the sake of comparison, Comcast's soft cap is around 300GB per month. On a wired connection. At speeds far higher than what you'll get over T-Mobile's 4G LTE.
Legere tossed out the 2TB cellular data figure in reference to what we assume are the highest bandwidth users that circumvented the tethering cap. That's no accident. That is willful abuse of the terms and conditions that clearly state that you get 7GB for tethering with the unlimited plan.
I think Legere could have done a better job of delivering the message because it probably didn't need to be a public announcement if only 3,000 users are guilty, and I find the technical validity of his argument a little weak, but I don't think there's legitimate outrage over this either. Many people who've responded in other blogs and forums lack reading comprehension and street smarts to think that "unlimited" is to be taken in the most literal fashion interpretable. Absolutes in favor of the consumer don't really exist in the marketing-heavy consumer product industry, and the government won't save us either. Not when the FDA says 0.49g trans fat = 0g.
Unlike the phone that should be yours to do as you please if you have it fully paid off, your cellular service is a subscription that is subject to the carrier's terms. Whether or not those terms make sense, they won't hesitate to enforce them. T-Mobile is by far the least bad carrier and it's best that its subscribers don't push them towards the business models of the other US carriers.
I agree snake about legere. 300GB is my Comcast soft cap
Looks like this is what he meant by "technology" lol http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3189003
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Looks like this is what he meant by "technology" lol http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3189003
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There's either the entitlement complex or naivety in that guy's post.
Others, including myself, will always believe data is data...
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Which goes back to my admittedly tongue-in-cheek but valid first comment in this thread. Does that guy own the cellular towers and the wireless spectrum? No? Then it doesn't matter if he believes data is data. It's the carrier's judgment that counts. For better or worse, all carriers will independently judge excessive use, and T-Mobile's is actually pretty clear for people who can read. Spoiler alert: He got off easy with 138GB.
http://www.t-mobile.com/Company/Com...Tab_ConsumerInfo&tsp=Abt_Sub_InternetServices
To provide the best possible experience for the most possible customers, and to minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance, we manage Unlimited high-speed data usage through prioritization. Unlimited high-speed data customers who use more data than what 97% of all customers use in a month, based on recent historical averages (updated quarterly), will have their data usage de-prioritized compared to the data usage of other customers at times and at locations where there are competing customer demands for network resources, which may result in slower data speeds. Customers who use data in violation of their Rate Plan terms or T-Mobile's Terms and Conditions may be excluded from this calculation. Data that might be whitelisted for other (fixed allotment) plan options, such as data associated with Music Freedom, does not count towards Unlimited high-speed data customers’ usage for this calculation. Based on network statistics for the most recent quarter, Unlimited high-speed data customers who use more than 21GB of data during a billing cycle will be de-prioritized for the remainder of the billing cycle in times and at locations where there are competing customer demands for network resources. At the start of the next bill cycle, the customer’s usage status is reset, and this data traffic is no longer de-prioritized.
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When it comes to cellular service, people need to get it out of their heads that "unlimited" is the same word that is defined in the dictionary. It's not. It's a marketing term. It's probably legal as far as the government is concerned. And now we circle back to 0.49g trans fat = 0g.
blackknightavalon said:
It's MY data. I will do with it as I please.
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...until your network gets badly jammed up.
graysooner said:
Stopping Network Abusers: An Open Letter to T-Mobile Customers
FYI.
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The link is down.
I'm linking to it here:
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/issues-insights-blog/stopping-network-abusers.htm
The reality is there are alot of people being cheap. They don't want to pay for cable TV or cable Internet and decide to use their smartphone data to run their whole house. They are using T-Mobile's $30 or $20 unlimited data plan to replace a $150 to $200 cable and internet bill. These same jerk offs are some of the same people running around saying unlimited means unlimited. They know they are getting over on T-Mobile. Where in the entire world can you pay $20 or $30 a month and get unlimited cell data, home Internet, and cable TV. NO WHERE.
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snowlin said:
I mean, if i pay for unlimited data then tethering shouldn't be seen as a huge problem...
Sometimes i need a large file to be stored/opened on my desktop computer. I could download the file onto my phone over LTE and then just transfer the file from phone to computer, or i could tether my connection and avoid waiting the time it would take to transfer the file from one device to the other. The point being - if i pay for unlimited data then i'm definitely going to use as much as i want. I do not have an internet connection at my house currently as i'm moving out very soon, however i still like to watch Netflix in my downtime/before bed/etc. I would still be using my unlimited data to stream shows or movies if i were to watch things on my device but i would rather WiFi tether so that i can cast it to my chromecast. I'm not using any MORE data than i would if i had not tethered.
I understand T-Mobile would be mad because they're not making money off an additional service they charge for convenience. But it doesn't necessarily mean i'm abusing the unlimited 4g that i pay monthly for.
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Which is why they offer free 7GB of hotspot at no additional charge.
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There's either the entitlement complex or naivety in that guy's post.
Which goes back to my admittedly tongue-in-cheek but valid first comment in this thread. Does that guy own the cellular towers and the wireless spectrum? No? Then it doesn't matter if he believes data is data. It's the carrier's judgment that counts. For better or worse, all carriers will independently judge excessive use, and T-Mobile's is actually pretty clear for people who can read. Spoiler alert: He got off easy with 138GB.
http://www.t-mobile.com/Company/Com...Tab_ConsumerInfo&tsp=Abt_Sub_InternetServices
When it comes to cellular service, people need to get it out of their heads that "unlimited" is the same word that is defined in the dictionary. It's not. It's a marketing term. It's probably legal as far as the government is concerned. And now we circle back to 0.49g trans fat = 0g.
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Marketing is good when you need to lure the masses, but bad/not to be taken literally when some of those peeps take advantage of it? Lol you can't have it both ways. If people, using their phones (not tethering), get throttled, it's time to stop the false advertisement, or at least start using asterisks...
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Marketing is good when you need to lure the masses, but bad/not to be taken literally when some of those peeps take advantage of it? Lol you can't have it both ways. If people, using their phones (not tethering), get throttled, it's time to stop the false advertisement, or at least start using asterisks...
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I'm in no way supporting what marketing departments do, but the lack of oversight to their practices has led to the landscape we have today. I've worked in and with marketing teams before and I often don't agree with their ethics, but I also know the tricks they use to hook people. I'm advocating buyer research and awareness. I think it's foolish for consumers these days to take buzzwords like "unlimited" at face value and assume that there isn't fine print or obscure terms involved.
You're asking for an entire industry to become ethical. I say it's up to the buyer to gain the knowledge to make an educated decision because I'm not waiting for an entire industry whose purpose is to extract money from consumers to teach them about the tricks and mind games they use on them.
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I'm in no way supporting what marketing departments do, but the lack of oversight to their practices has led to the landscape we have today. I've worked in and with marketing teams before and I often don't agree with their ethics, but I also know the tricks they use to hook people. I'm advocating buyer research and awareness. I think it's foolish for consumers these days to take buzzwords like "unlimited" at face value and assume that there isn't fine print or obscure terms involved.
You're asking for an entire industry to become ethical. I say it's up to the buyer to gain the knowledge to make an educated decision because I'm not waiting for an entire industry whose purpose is to extract money from consumers to teach them about the tricks and mind games they use on them.
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Agreed. I'm still curious about Legere's technology, though lol
Background:
I love t-mobile and don't wish them harm but I have been having some problems with how fast my 4g data disappears. I am on a grandfather plan that got upgraded. For one extra buck I could have 30 MB of data plus Music Freedom. Despite trying a bunch of firewall's and data restrictions and doing nothing but listening to Spotify the data never lasts more than a few days. And then it's edge speeds which make listening to spotify even on the lowest setting a buffering nightmare.
Question:
How do Increase the amount of data by just a little (I only need like a extra 100 MB) without paying a ridicules $50 a month?
I wouldn't.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/31/technology/tmobile-data-theives/
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I wouldn't.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/31/technology/tmobile-data-theives/
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That article is about tethering not extending data caps.
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That article is about tethering not extending data caps.
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My point was that if they are going to be that way about tethering, why risk fiddling around with extending data caps in an unauthorized fashion?
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My point was that if they are going to be that way about tethering, why risk fiddling around with extending data caps in an unauthorized fashion?
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This is probably the perfect time to do this while they are distracted with tethering.
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This is probably the perfect time to do this while they are distracted with tethering.
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Ooooo-kay then. ?
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Why don't you just switch to prepaid... the have a 5gb plan for 30 bucks
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Why don't you just switch to prepaid... the have a 5gb plan for 30 bucks
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I don't need that much data.
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This is probably the perfect time to do this while they are distracted with tethering.
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Yea, because no one will notice.... Oh and yes this is doable, thats why the boys over on Verizon and ATT forums could give a rats ass about the amount of data they get, they have the ROMS that exploit the caps.
Yep, lets defraud T-Mobile.....pure genius, while we're at it, lets go down the street and steal the neighbors 4K television. I wouldnt blame them for locking down their phones like fort knox for this reason alone. Look at it like this, If I own a store and people are shoplifting, I pass the extra costs due to lost merchandise and hiring loss prevention personnel to my customers, my customers then whine about the high cost of buying from me and my clientel numbers go in the tank. Dont do it.
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Yep, lets defraud T-Mobile.....pure genius, while we're at it, lets go down the street and steal the neighbors 4K television. I wouldnt blame them for locking down their phones like fort knox for this reason alone. Look at it like this, If I own a store and people are shoplifting, I pass the extra costs due to lost merchandise and hiring loss prevention personnel to my customers, my customers then whine about the high cost of buying from me and my clientel numbers go in the tank. Dont do it.
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That's exactly what I was getting at.
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I don't need that much data.
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How little could you possibly be paying that $30 is too much? Also, music streaming should not count towards your data cap on Tmo. I'd call them rather than trying to defraud them. Especially since T-Mobile alone is basically the reason why carriers are scrambling to reduce just how much they screw us. They've been a huge boon to the consumer in the past couple of years.
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Yea, because no one will notice.... Oh and yes this is doable, thats why the boys over on Verizon and ATT forums could give a rats ass about the amount of data they get, they have the ROMS that exploit the caps.
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Are you being sarcastic or is this for realz?
Maybe you could give me a link to one of these threads.
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Yep, lets defraud T-Mobile.....pure genius, while we're at it, lets go down the street and steal the neighbors 4K television. I wouldnt blame them for locking down their phones like fort knox for this reason alone. Look at it like this, If I own a store and people are shoplifting, I pass the extra costs due to lost merchandise and hiring loss prevention personnel to my customers, my customers then whine about the high cost of buying from me and my clientel numbers go in the tank. Dont do it.
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Okay I wouldn't be stealing data. T-mobile doesn't spend even a extra $0.000000001 if I use Edge speeds or lte. Only other t-mobile customers speed would be effected. But not where I live, I live in West Lebanon NH which only got lte a couple months ago, the closest tmobile store is 30 miles away. I know a lot of people in my town and what carrier they have and I am the only one with tmobile. There is so much bandwidth being unused it's kind of sad.
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How little could you possibly be paying that $30 is too much? Also, music streaming should not count towards your data cap on Tmo. I'd call them rather than trying to defraud them. Especially since T-Mobile alone is basically the reason why carriers are scrambling to reduce just how much they screw us. They've been a huge boon to the consumer in the past couple of years.
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My plan is .... 5 bucks a month. Before you go saying how low that is, this summer I lived in Russia and for 5 bucks I got unlimited lte data with no caps, speeds faster then t-mobile, coverage better than Verizon, signal strength better than at&t, and even lte advanced in some places.
Music streaming does not take away from my data allocation. Its other s*** on my phone that slips through firewalls and data restrictions.
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My plan is .... 5 bucks a month. Before you go saying how low that is, this summer I lived in Russia and for 5 bucks I got unlimited lte data with no caps, speeds faster then t-mobile, coverage better than Verizon, signal strength better than at&t, and even lte advanced in some places.
Music streaming does not take away from my data allocation. Its other s*** on my phone that slips through firewalls and data restrictions.
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Everything is relative. People don't get paid the same in Russia as they do here. It costs more to stand up a tower and buy infrastructure than it does in Russia. It's apples to rubles.
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Everything is relative. People don't get paid the same in Russia as they do here. It costs more to stand up a tower and buy infrastructure than it does in Russia. It's apples to rubles.
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It can't be that big of a difference I worked minimum wage in Russia and that was $4/hour and here it is $8/hour so by that logical all that awesome stuff should be $10 in the US but it doesn't even exist for any amount of money.
Anyway I didn't start this thread to argue about whether it is moral to evade throttling I just came to learn how to do it. If somebody teaches a person to shoot a gun so they can protect themselves and then the person starts killing innocent people with the gun, it is not the teachers fault. So please if you know tell me how to evade throttling.
In fact just tell me if the services.jar method will work, that's all I need.
In Russia, your plan pays you