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Google Nexus 5 software updates vs. iPhone update speed

iOS 7 was released on September 18, 2013.
7.0.1 came out September 19.
7.0.2 came out September 26.
7.0.3 came out October 22.
7.0.4 came out November 14.
That's 4 updates in 2 months. Three in the (approximately) first month.
KitKat came out October 31. No updates so far, over a month in.
I understand that you might respond, "well iOS needs so many updates because it has so many bugs." And that might be true. But unquestionably, KitKat has some things that could be adjusted (at a minimum, it'd be nice if they tweaked the volume a little bit on the N5). And surely there are various bugs that could be fixed.
Is this pretty typical? I can't help but wonder why Google takes so long to push out updates, even if they are minor. I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.

A couple of those updates were for security issues that HAD to be updated quickly, considering the bad press they were getting.

speedyink said:
A couple of those updates were for security issues that HAD to be updated quickly, considering the bad press they were getting.
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^Sums it up, it'd be a big deal if they were major updates like 7.1.x etc. but like @speedyink said they were just security patches

phositadc said:
I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
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We don't always get what we want.
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phositadc said:
iOS 7 was released on September 18, 2013.
7.0.1 came out September 19.
7.0.2 came out September 26.
7.0.3 came out October 22.
7.0.4 came out November 14.
That's 4 updates in 2 months. Three in the (approximately) first month.
KitKat came out October 31. No updates so far, over a month in.
I understand that you might respond, "well iOS needs so many updates because it has so many bugs." And that might be true. But unquestionably, KitKat has some things that could be adjusted (at a minimum, it'd be nice if they tweaked the volume a little bit on the N5). And surely there are various bugs that could be fixed.
Is this pretty typical? I can't help but wonder why Google takes so long to push out updates, even if they are minor. I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
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i dont get these android vs ios threads. if your unhappy, go back to ios then. you dont need to keep looking for reasons.
Google does it this way because it works for them, i honestly dont see a problem with it. whatever bugs that are on stock are usually fixed on a custom rom. Try doing that with an iphone

TheAtheistOtaku said:
Whatever bugs that are on stock are usually fixed on a custom rom. Try doing that with an iphone.
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Not trying to hate on custom roms, but most of them have their own bugs and are not for the everyday user. Some might say the N5 is developer phone but it works on Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile and I know Sprint is selling it on contract to average users.
The main issue with the N5 is obviously the camera. I can't even use some apps anymore and the camera breaks to a green screen while using those apps. I know the fix is coming, but it's kinda annoying to have to reboot my phone every 30 minutes to be able to send snapchats or use the camera again. Also hearing so many stories about people returning an otherwise great phone because they cant get the camera to work. So I guess I semi-agree with the OP that Google needs to fix some things now, but can also understand why they haven't yet.
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if your unhappy, go back to ios then. you dont need to keep looking for reasons.
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I think all he was trying to say was that he wished Google was a tiny tiny little bit like Apple sometimes. If this was the IPhone 5 they would be getting murdered by the media. Not necessarily unhappy with the phone or Google's services, just patiently waiting for a fix on a few crucial things.

Updates will come when they're ready. I know I don't want an update for the sake of getting a update. Too many times I've seen stuff rushed to fix something and break many other things.
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adio01 said:
Not trying to hate on custom roms, but most of them have their own bugs and are not for the everyday user. Some might say the N5 is developer phone but it works on Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile and I know Sprint is selling it on contract to average users.
The main issue with the N5 is obviously the camera. I can't even use some apps anymore and the camera breaks to a green screen while using those apps. I know the fix is coming, but it's kinda annoying to have to reboot my phone every 30 minutes to be able to send snapchats or use the camera again. Also hearing so many stories about people returning an otherwise great phone because they cant get the camera to work. So I guess I semi-agree with the OP that Google needs to fix some things now, but can also understand why they haven't yet.
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Bro, that's an example of something you don't say here at XDA. "Most of them have their own bugs" well duh! It's been about a month and ROMs take a few months to iron out all the issues. But when that stable or RC CM/AOKP/Beanstalk/Slim build comes out, there's no complaining. Simply good features and good speed. :victory:
Why shouldn't Google market it as a good smartphone for the average user? Just because it's a Nexus doesn't mean its destiny belongs at XDA...it's got good speed, stability, features and screen. What else could you wish for at the price of $349/399 or $450 on carrier?
It's not like iOS 7 was good upon release. You wanna see the lag on my iPad Mini that wasn't fixed until 7.0.3? Bro, there's no reason that they should be releasing anything that lags that hard on a major device that still constituted a major part of their lineup at ios7 release; simply unacceptable. The updates were methods of solving problems such as lag (it's much better now with Reduce Motion and Increase Contrast).
You're an XDA user man. Look around for a fix, don't just sit there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061
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I understand that you might respond, "well iOS needs so many updates because it has so many bugs." And that might be true. But unquestionably, KitKat has some things that could be adjusted (at a minimum, it'd be nice if they tweaked the volume a little bit on the N5). And surely there are various bugs that could be fixed.
Is this pretty typical? I can't help but wonder why Google takes so long to push out updates, even if they are minor. I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
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A software update won't magically melt the extra glue in your N5. It was already determined that speaker sound required a hardware modification. There is a fix for volume on the N5 already, I think Google is aware of this and might put it in 4.4.1.

droid_<3er said:
Bro, that's an example of something you don't say here at XDA. "Most of them have their own bugs" well duh! It's been about a month and ROMs take a few months to iron out all the issues. But when that stable or RC CM/AOKP/Beanstalk/Slim build comes out, there's no complaining. Simply good features and good speed. :victory:
Why shouldn't Google market it as a good smartphone for the average user? Just because it's a Nexus doesn't mean its destiny belongs at XDA...it's got good speed, stability, features and screen. What else could you wish for at the price of $349/399 or $450 on carrier?
It's not like iOS 7 was good upon release. You wanna see the lag on my iPad Mini that wasn't fixed until 7.0.3? Bro, there's no reason that they should be releasing anything that lags that hard on a major device that still constituted a major part of their lineup at ios7 release; simply unacceptable. The updates were methods of solving problems such as lag (it's much better now with Reduce Motion and Increase Contrast).
You're an XDA user man. Look around for a fix, don't just sit there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061
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1) I didn't say custom roms don't get the bugs iron out i've been rooting/flashing for 4-5 years now and have used some amazing roms. I said they were not for the everyday user and if you don't know what you are doing it can be a hassle.
2) A lot of people argue that the Nexus 5 is a developer phone. I didn't say it was destined for XDA I almost said the exact opposite since average users are buying it.
3) Never said IOS 7 was good/bad nor have I ever used IOS. In your comparison though, lag vs. the entire camera not functioning.
4) I know how to search im just more of a lurker... and I've used that camera app before. The problem is not the quality of the image/camera and that is what that app is aiming to fix. I actually think the N5 is able to take great pictures in most situations. The problem with the camera is that while using apps that utilize the nexus's camera it will become unusable giving you a black/green screen with noise making the camera unusable until you reboot the phone.
I know the camera issue does not affect many users who do not use apps like snap-chat and a few others (or I think using face-unlock will also trigger this) but a lot of less tech savvy have been returning the phone thinking it doesn't function properly. For tech savvy users like us we know the new camera API is coming and can wait it out.
Also, they are exclusively featuring camera on the N5 in all of the commercials I have seen.
Funny story to go with this also. My GF suggested that I need to get a new phone since snap-chat doesn't work anymore... I just sort of laughed and said no way! But just thought it was an interesting perspective.

So who are these people returning their nexus 5 because of the camera? Are they in the n5 v g2 thread?
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I'm going to stop reading the general forum, all i see is people whining about this or that.
If you're not satisfied just return your device and get anything else.
To get back on topic, most of us don't give a flying F* about iOS around here
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All you are saying in the op is that Apple release sh1t software that needs fixing more than Google
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The nexus series is geared towards development end of story

I use snap chat every day many times a day and I do not have this green problem you speak of
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Shoopz said:
I use snap chat every day many times a day and I do not have this green problem you speak of
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I actually get that issue quite often. Occasionally its just a black screen and gives a camera error. Doesn't fix itself until the phones restarted. Stock / Rooted.

There are FAR more iOS 7 users than there are Android 4.4 users. When 400 million iOS 7 users have an issue—92% of all iOS users out there—a lot of people are affected. When 1 million Android 4.4 users have an issue—1% of all Android users out there—this is a very tiny portion of the Android ecosystem and Google does not feel they need to resolve issues timely. You can blame Google and the entire Android ecosystem for this.

rayiskon said:
I'm going to stop reading the general forum, all i see is people whining about this or that.
If you're not satisfied just return your device and get anything else.
To get back on topic, most of us don't give a flying F* about iOS around here
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Not whining and I didn't say that i'm unhappy with the device or want to return it if that was directed towards me, just saying Google needs to fix a few things.
Advertising the Camera -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ0XTJqFLIE
Camera Problems -
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1rcc1f/issue_with_camera_crashing_on_nexus_5_running/
Camera Problems Confirmed -
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=61873#c79
And like I said the issue has been confirmed most of us are just waiting on them to rollout the update.
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I use snap chat every day many times a day and I do not have this green problem you speak of
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What rom do you have flashed?

They need to get an update for the n5 quick, to fix the 'bog roll' quality speaker which somehow manages to vibrate the phone more than the actual vibrator does.

There is a 4.4.1 update rolling out shortly. No link, but easily googled.
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It should probably be mentioned that Google have decoupled several apps from the core OS that in iOS would require an OS "update".
For example, Chrome is now a separate update whereas Safari in iOS is not. If security updates to the browser are required, Google just updates Chrome in the Play store, whereas Apple would release an OS "update" which may in reality only affect the browser.
I'm not saying that is always going to be the case, but it may explain some of the timing "differences".
EDIT: Here's a good example, from the iOS 7.0.4 update:
Bug fixes and improvements, including a fix for an issue that causes FaceTime calls to fail for some users.
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The Android equivalent of a Facetime fix would likely just be a new version of Hangouts on Play.
Regards,
Dave

KitKat still 'way inferior to iOS

Android, even at 4.4.2 and the computing power of the Nexus 5, still can't compete with iOS for smoothness. Using a friend's iPhone 5 is a revelation. What with "project butter" and all that hype, continuous revision of the OS, and continuous improvement in the hardware, I would have expected iOS and Android to have been more comparable in performance by now. Eric Schmidt and the boys should carry an iPhone and use it some of the time, to see what they're up against.
My 16Gb Nexus 5 stock, unrooted, with relatively few apps, no music, no games, and a lot of free memory.
ecdy

Lol...
Team Nexus 5 sucks

I'm glad you found something that works better for you.
My whole family uses iPhones (of all flavors) and they are all exactly the same. Variety and choice is the beauty of Android.
I feel that Android has far surpassed iOS in so many ways. But to each his own.
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why is this thread here?

dicecuber said:
Lol...
Team Nexus 5 sucks
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All you do everyday is search nexus 5 critical topics and write Lol,Move on man didn't like the phone buy another one!!!!

What's the point?

zevim2005 said:
All you do everyday is search nexus 5 critical topics and write Lol,Move on man didn't like the phone buy another one!!!!
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Lol @ op's post. I like my Nexus 5 minus the underpowered battery, weak antenna and plastic cheaply built compared to HTC One titanium
Team Nexus 5 sucks

My opinion: People who still complain about performance (as OP calls it "smoothness" ) on an android high end phone should either learn how to set up their device (no rooting required), or move on to the next platform. You never know, they might even allow you to change the wallpaper, hell yeah :good:

dicecuber said:
Lol @ op's post. I like my Nexus 5 minus the underpowered battery, weak antenna and plastic cheaply built compared to HTC One titanium
Team Nexus 5 sucks
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if you dont like the nexus 5 get a Google Play Edition device HTC one
like with any product launch expect some issues.

I just came from an iPhone 4S, wife has the iPhone 5 and my roommates wife has the 5S. I honestly switched to the Nexus 5 because I wanted to try Android out without any bloatware, and I liked the screen size. As of right now I don't mind being out of the ecosystem with iMessaging, but who knows, maybe soon I will.
I'm enjoying rooting, installing CM11, and learning what I can do with Android. I love iOS, but the 3.5-4" screen size is old school now and I probably won't go back unless they update to a bigger size screen.
Last time I used Android was Jellybean on a Samsung Note 1, I bought it, switched to it and in a day switched back to the iPhone. I think KitKat is awesome, maybe I didn't play with the features of Jellybean, but I didn't know it can do what it does on my Nexus 5.

The smoothness on the iPhone is mainly due to slow animations(Apple made them slow on purpose), pseudo-multitasking(apps in memory are frozen after some time to prevent it from running in background), better optimization(I agree that Android needs better optimization) and a very simple and basic application grid(no widgets, etc)

Wait till art kicks into release. You'll be drooling over our smoothness
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I can honestly say I see more frame drops opening apps on my iPhone 5s than my Nexus 5..
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What's an "iPhone"?

My nexus 5 is smooooth and I am getting an awesome amount of standby time now with LTE/wifi on thanks to Franco and Cataclysm. to bad you aren't experiencing the same.

I detect some serious iFan butturt. Don't like the nexus 5? Sell it, save up for the rest of the year, and maybe you can buy an iPhone. I think anyone who knows what they're talking about prefers the highly customisable and open sourced Linux based Android, to the locked, blank, outdated and proprietary iOS. this is coming from someone who just ditched an iPad 4th gen for the new Nexus 7.
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Does the op think that people in the nexus 5 forum are going to agree as a majority, nah.
Join an iphone forum and post your opinion there, good point that someone made with the slow animation speed on ios, if you do the same on android it does give the same effect that apple want their users to have i believe its called the "ios feel" some ass like that.
Hmmm "Way inferior to ios" is ridiculous, why do i keep looking in the general section when all i see is donkey threads like this one.

A friend of mine who was coming from an iPhone 5 said his new N5 had some lags and frame skips, especially while opening the multitasking view. After I made him switch to ART he's not complaining anymore about smoothness, so try getting rid of Dalvik runtime, then head back here and post your (updated) comments

Where is the lag that people are talking about?! I had the 5S for a few days and using chrome on it was like using android 1.6. The whole os crashed way more than android and even safari had some lag to it.
Armando Ferreira did a video comparing 4.4 and ios7 and he saw the same thing.
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The smoothness on the iPhone is mainly due to slow animations(Apple made them slow on purpose), pseudo-multitasking(apps in memory are frozen after some time to prevent it from running in background), better optimization(I agree that Android needs better optimization) and a very simple and basic application grid(no widgets, etc)
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Ios7 actually has real multitasking now, so ill give them that. Instead of comparing android to ios all the time, I actually think that android needs to become like wp8 more. Even the lowest end windows phone can run great. The rest of the os is junk, but the core of it is pretty good fi you ask me.

Android 4.4.2 is already as smooth as iOS.

Nexus 5 just became less unique

I completely understand why Google did this but one thing I liked about the N5 was how it had features other phones didn't. One big one just went bye-bye. http://gigaom.com/2014/08/01/the-go...ailable-for-almost-all-modern-android-phones/

GNL has been available for other devices for a while now.
The apk has been floating around the web since the N5 was released or shortly there after.
I still think the nexus line of devices are still very unique in that they get the fastest updates and developer support is second to none!
If there is a particular developer's work you like to follow, make sure to support him/her to show them your appreciation! :thumbup:
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Agreed with giant22000. N5 is best

peach007 said:
Agreed with giant22000. N5 is best
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Don't get me wrong, I love the N5 and have been nothing but pleased with it since I got mine. I liked the fact that I had a launcher that others did not and could not have without going out of the way to get it. Now it is much easier to install for users and I would expect it to pop up more in the wild than previously seen.

pistl_pete said:
Don't get me wrong, I love the N5 and have been nothing but pleased with it since I got mine. I liked the fact that I had a launcher that others did not and could not have without going out of the way to get it. Now it is much easier to install for users and I would expect it to pop up more in the wild than previously seen.
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I felt like that with the new google camera. I thought they were just going to update it for the N5 but they ended up releasing it for a lot of phones. However, maybe that will speed up new updates for it since it's not just for one phone.

PsychDrummer said:
I felt like that with the new google camera. I thought they were just going to update it for the N5 but they ended up releasing it for a lot of phones. However, maybe that will speed up new updates for it since it's not just for one phone.
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Only the Nexus 5 can use "HDR+" (HDR isn't anywhere near the same as "HDR+"), which is closed source (and also limited to Google Camera).

This has been available for a while now. I was running it on my Galaxy Nexus back in the day and, when it hit Google Play, many GPE devices were able to install it too. Now it’s even available on a lowly iPhone (some more detail at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Now).

I'll file this thread under "slow news day."

Honestly I hardly ever used the GNL

Lethargy said:
Only the Nexus 5 can use "HDR+" (HDR isn't anywhere near the same as "HDR+"), which is closed source (and also limited to Google Camera).
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Yeah good point. I mean I'm over it now lol. I remember being a bit upset about the lens blur. Even though a lot of cameras have that feature already.

The launcher is by far the furthest thing from making the Nexus 5 what it is.

TheLastSidekick said:
The launcher is by far the furthest thing from making the Nexus 5 what it is.
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This. I actually don't like it at all. Nova all the way.

I hated the exclusive feature of GEL or GNL whatever it's called. Let it be open to all(without side loading)

Why are you upset that others have the option of the launcher ... Sorry but that seems childish

O.T. Less unique is also impossible. Something is either unique or not. There is no halfway.

You bought a phone with unlimited customization capabilities and you whine that the stock launcher for it, the phone that is the DEVELOPMENT device, for the entire Android ecosystem, has been made available to other Android devices?
First World Privilege Problems?
Kids these days...

The nexus series is always unique as it always gets the latest & the greatest android. Google had no plan of making the launcher a nexus 5 only thing. Even in the worst case, I'm sure Google would have at least supported the launcher on the older nexus phones officially. All of it was a part of Google's plan. First they saw how people received the launcher on the nexus 5. Following all the hype, they eventually made it available to all the devices out there.
Remember, Google's primary aim is to make all of its services available to all of its users. That's why they built android. They used android to reach their users & to make their services available to them easily & efficiently.

This really only applies to most of us that mod or like to customize our phones. IMO those people probably already use GOOGLE NOW Launcher anyways on whatever custom ROM they are running. I really dont see how this makes the phone less unique. Apps are not unique, the actual phone is what makes it unique than other phones on the market.
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Beginner with Nexus

So first hello everyone I just joined this community
I am actually just getting my first android phone, and I was looking around for something interesting
and found out that there is a phone like Nexus 5 which is capable of running all sorts of different OSes
like ubuntu, sailfish, firefox, android of course,... But since nexus 5 is a phone from 2013 I just didn't like the
idea of getting a phone which could become obsolete this very year in terms of specs.
So I was wondering where is Nexus 6 compared to Nexus 5 in terms of running all these differenet OSes,
and generaly in its support for modding and such...
thx

walt disney said:
So first hello everyone I just joined this community
I am actually just getting my first android phone, and I was looking around for something interesting
and found out that there is a phone like Nexus 5 which is capable of running all sorts of different OSes
like ubuntu, sailfish, firefox, android of course,... But since nexus 5 is a phone from 2013 I just didn't like the
idea of getting a phone which could become obsolete this very year in terms of specs.
So I was wondering where is Nexus 6 compared to Nexus 5 in terms of running all these differenet OSes,
and generaly in its support for modding and such...
thx
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Well it has many custom ROM options as does Nexus5, official multirom, first to get updates etc.. But unfortunately, it doesn't have Firefox or Ubuntu or sailfish. They're made by multirom developer and I dont think there's been much done w those. I've tried them on my nexus 7 and wasn't impressed. So I wouldn't run it even if were offered. 6 is bigger but as far as specs.. That's when I hit Google. Lol
Got a 6,2013 7, 2013 7 LTE. I love my nexus. Can't go wrong. I still have the galaxy nexus from years ago.
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walt disney said:
So first hello everyone I just joined this community
I am actually just getting my first android phone, and I was looking around for something interesting
and found out that there is a phone like Nexus 5 which is capable of running all sorts of different OSes
like ubuntu, sailfish, firefox, android of course,... But since nexus 5 is a phone from 2013 I just didn't like the
idea of getting a phone which could become obsolete this very year in terms of specs.
So I was wondering where is Nexus 6 compared to Nexus 5 in terms of running all these differenet OSes,
and generaly in its support for modding and such...
thx
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Putting aside the issue of running non-Android OSes -- which comment #2 covers pretty well -- both the N5 and the N6 support Android-based custom roms very well. Both have unlocked bootloaders so you can load anything that will run on the hardware and flash a factory image of stock Android so you're back to where you started (including going back to various earlier Android versions.)
I've had a Nexus 5 since December, 2013 and it's been excellent -- A++. And I don't think it will be obsolete for at least another year (meaning we'll have updates from Google.) Add to that the exceptional value: you can pick up a new one on eBay for about $200 -- I think -- don't hold me to it.
I've also had a Nexus 6 since March of this year and, while I'm happy with it and wouldn't send it back, I must say that it has some issues. It has run very hot a few times. Read some reviews -- they're not all good. Plus, it's much more expensive than the N5. I like them both but, considering price, the N5 blows away the N6, IMHO.

Ah I see, well I think I'll first have to check them out hands on because N6 by specs seems to be huge and everyone says so, while looking on the pictures it doesn't really seems like that and I have used phones with 4 inch screens until now so really not sure about this ??

walt disney said:
Ah I see, well I think I'll first have to check them out hands on because N6 by specs seems to be huge and everyone says so, while looking on the pictures it doesn't really seems like that and I have used phones with 4 inch screens until now so really not sure about this ??
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If it seems large at first you will get used to it. That big sexy screen will win you over

The more you use it, the better you'll like it!

When to expect Android o

When to expect Android o ROM

After Android O is actually released .....

dictionary said:
After Android O is actually released .....
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The Beta has been out for 2 months, but I get what you're saying.
Right now it wouldn't be practical. There are too many bugs that could be there. Even Google says it's not ready for mainstream use yet.

liquidzoo said:
The Beta has been out for 2 months, but I get what you're saying.
Right now it wouldn't be practical. There are too many bugs that could be there. Even Google says it's not ready for mainstream use yet.
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I thought the Nexus 6 was not slated to receive the Android O update. Am I wrong?

classic757 said:
I thought the Nexus 6 was not slated to receive the Android O update. Am I wrong?
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No, you're not wrong. The Nexus 6 is not part of the beta program...that doesn't mean some enterprising ROM developer won't compile something for us to enjoy, though.

liquidzoo said:
No, you're not wrong. The Nexus 6 is not part of the beta program...that doesn't mean some enterprising ROM developer won't compile something for us to enjoy, though.
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Can't wait! This is the first time the developer previews weren't made for the shamu, and it's killing me! Lol can't wait to have a fully ported ROM!

liquidzoo said:
No, you're not wrong. The Nexus 6 is not part of the beta program...that doesn't mean some enterprising ROM developer won't compile something for us to enjoy, though.
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That would be great if we can have an Android O custom ROM. Looking forward to that.

As I've said before in other threads, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to have a custom Android O ROM. What we won't get are features that are specifically for 64-bit processors. So things like the Pixel/Pixel XL Settings app for example are out of the question and we'd have to "make do" with the standard Settings app found in AOSP.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
As I've said before in other threads, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to have a custom Android O ROM. What we won't get are features that are specifically for 64-bit processors. So things like the Pixel/Pixel XL Settings app for example are out of the question and we'd have to "make do" with the standard Settings app found in AOSP.
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I actually thought about getting a Nexus 6p because it has a 64 bit processor and is an Android O candidate but from what I've read, that phone just has too many glitches so not sure I want to fool with that.

The 6P was never in the running for my next device. At the time, there was no compelling reason for me to pick that device over the N6. The fingerprint sensor was something I could do without both now and in the future, the camera I felt was a step backwards even with the larger pixels, the Snapdragon 810 was a horror show, and the phone was simply ugly. While I could have cured that last one with a case, the fact the 6P bootloops when you breathe on it only validates my decision.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The 6P was never in the running for my next device. At the time, there was no compelling reason for me to pick that device over the N6. The fingerprint sensor was something I could do without both now and in the future, the camera I felt was a step backwards even with the larger pixels, the Snapdragon 810 was a horror show, and the phone was simply ugly. While I could have cured that last one with a case, the fact the 6P bootloops when you breathe on it only validates my decision.
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I hear you.
The only reason I considered the 6p was for future OS updates but you are right, the phone is ugly (especially with that sun visor camera screen. Yuk!), the 810 overheats like an old car in the Sahara desert, and bootloops come standard with the phone.
So your points are well taken.
I'm with Verizon so my choices for unlocked, rootable phones with the specs of my Nexus 6 are very limited.
Looks like I'll be sticking with my Shamu for a while.

I am all for keeping my Nexus 6 Shamu and breathing extra life into it with Oreo (as for Oreo being 64-bit only, I will say it once again and for the final time, it's NOT 64-bit only as it will just kill the market for prepaid phones), replacement batteries are getting hard to find, and now I am unsure if I wanna gamble with NewPower99 aftermarket Lithium polymer cells (I may probably have to desolder the battery protection module and just solder new LG Lithium polymer cell on, which is about the only thing that's compatible with Nexus 6's battery management system) - battery fire is no laughing matter, as batteries don't really give you very much warning, even if it does, it's usually too late.
And I also am considering Google Pixel 2 (this time straight from Google Store as I HATE Verizon's stupid locked bootloader policy, that kind of thing pisses me off - the stock ROM can inevitably become bricked with no way to recover for no reasons at all, so TWRP have become a requirement when it comes to owning a smartphone).