[Q] XT1095 - Lollipop OTA Update Requirements - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a Xt1095 PE Moto X. Can anyone clarify that if I have an unlocked bootloader and have rooted my phone if I will indeed receive the OTA for Lollipop and if it will install without issue? I haven't received any system update notifications nor when I check through the settings page, it states that I am up to date with KitKat. I don't mind waiting if I know I will receive it but I am not, I will manually flash it via the guide in the other thread.

ov3rl0rdl said:
I have a Xt1095 PE Moto X. Can anyone clarify that if I have an unlocked bootloader and have rooted my phone if I will indeed receive the OTA for Lollipop and if it will install without issue? I haven't received any system update notifications nor when I check through the settings page, it states that I am up to date with KitKat. I don't mind waiting if I know I will receive it but I am not, I will manually flash it via the guide in the other thread.
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Won't work. You have to be on stock. Reflash the factory images. Then sideload the ota. There are a bunch of guides.

kcustom11 said:
Won't work. You have to be on stock. Reflash the factory images. Then sideload the ota. There are a bunch of guides.
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Thank you very much sir. I figured this was the case but couldn't find any definitive post.

I think I'm in the same boat. Mine came with the boot loader already unlocked and system rooted. My recovery is stock.
Will this prevent the ota update?
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[Q] No system updates?

I was running Lollipop 5.0.2 on my Moto G (2014) XT1068 (India) and wanted to downgrade to KitKat. I followed this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...dows-tool-moto-g-2014-xt1064-restore-t2957167
And although the downgrade has been successful, when I check for updates, I get a message that the phone is up to date and no updates are available whereas it should be telling me that Lollipop is available for download. Why is this happening?
Thanks in advance
there is a app that in need to be clean cache and data
Google Service Framework
After reboot and try to check for update.
Try that.
Do you wanna go back to L?
I don't want to go back to L but I might when 5.1 comes out for my phone.
Where can I find that app you are talking about?
you dont know how to clean data and cache for a app
settings/apps/all
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Oh I didn't understand your post. I thought you meant dalvik cache. I'll do that. Thanks
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baybutcher27 said:
you dont know how to clean data and cache for a app
settings/apps/all
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I did as you said and cleared the data and cache for Google Play Services Framework app and restarted my phone but it still says that my device is up to date... What do I do now?
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That happens, or the ota part of the rom is bug, or the ROM you using don't have update.
when update comes out, you search ways to flash the update. The update will come in a flash way before it release to all via OTA.
Ohkk... Once I flash the update the problem should go away right?
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baybutcher27 said:
That happens, or the ota part of the rom is bug, or the ROM you using don't have update.
when update comes out, you search ways to flash the update. The update will come in a flash way before it release to all via OTA.
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Or should I go for this ROM instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/windows-tool-moto-g-2014-xt1068-dual-t2983295 ?
dakshay95 said:
Or should I go for this ROM instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/windows-tool-moto-g-2014-xt1068-dual-t2983295 ?
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I went for this ROM but it removed TWRP from my phone for some reason. And it's not telling me that there are system updates either.
Okay, so I read somewhere that the phone doesn't receive OTA updates if the device is rooted and it has a custom recovery. So I used SuperSUs Unroot feature to unroot the phone and then flashed the stock recovery to replace TWRP.
Now the phone isn't rooted, and it has stock recovery. But even now when I'm checking for updates it's telling me that my phone is up to date. If it matters, my bootloader is still unlocked but that shouldn't prevent me from getting an OTA update right?
Someone please reply...
you are confusing too much things.
like i told you, or you have a bug rom a rom that can reach to OTA because some one has change or remove the part of the ROM that receives the OTA, the OTA is the update... Or you cause a bug on it by mistake or by a app that you installed.
If you have a stock original ROM from Motorola it must received a OTA. Don't mare if you have bootloader unlocked, rooted or custom recovery it doesn't change the habitability of the device receive the OTA.
But if you received a OTA in the stock ROM that you change the recovery and rooted it, and after the download click on update, the phone will turn off and try to update, but it will not have success and you end with a brick phone.
so dont confuse the ability to received the OTA with be able to install it that are two separated thing.
Or you have a bug ROM or you dont have a stock ROM that is the way you dont receive ota.
If you don't wanna update, why bother with update????
When the update comes it will came to very little number of users, before is released to all user's via OTA. So unless you are part of Motorola tester club you don't receive the OTA when is available. But some one in that grup probably will share the update here at XDA that you will be able to flash. Don't mare the rom you are the flash will contain all the ROM and any one will be able to use, of course the right ROM file for the right device.
every update that moto did is now available here so don't worry now when it comes we all will have it.
baybutcher27 said:
you are confusing too much things.
like i told you, or you have a bug rom a rom that can reach to OTA because some one has change or remove the part of the ROM that receives the OTA, the OTA is the update... Or you cause a bug on it by mistake or by a app that you installed.
If you have a stock original ROM from Motorola it must received a OTA. Don't mare if you have bootloader unlocked, rooted or custom recovery it doesn't change the habitability of the device receive the OTA.
But if you received a OTA in the stock ROM that you change the recovery and rooted it, and after the download click on update, the phone will turn off and try to update, but it will not have success and you end with a brick phone.
so dont confuse the ability to received the OTA with be able to install it that are two separated thing.
Or you have a bug ROM or you dont have a stock ROM that is the way you dont receive ota.
If you don't wanna update, why bother with update????
When the update comes it will came to very little number of users, before is released to all user's via OTA. So unless you are part of Motorola tester club you don't receive the OTA when is available. But some one in that grup probably will share the update here at XDA that you will be able to flash. Don't mare the rom you are the flash will contain all the ROM and any one will be able to use, of course the right ROM file for the right device.
every update that moto did is now available here so don't worry now when it comes we all will have it.
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Actually, I had download this firmware build earlier: KXB21.85.27 but this build hasn't received the Lollipop update, so I downloaded and flashed this firmware build: KXB21.85.23 and as soon as I booted up my phone I got the OTA notification for my phone. Problem solved.
If you have a stock original ROM from Motorola it must received a OTA. Don't mare if you have bootloader unlocked, rooted or custom recovery it doesn't change the habitability of the device receive the OTA.
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I thought so too but a simple Google search told me that you can't install OTA updates even if you are running original stock ROM if you have a custom recovery. You MUST have Stock Recovery and only then you will receive the OTA update. Your bootloader can still be unlocked though.

[Q] Updating from 22.21.11 to 23.16.3

I'm having difficulty figuring out how to approach the update. I'm on the XT1095 running 22.21.11.victara_tmo.tmo.en.US, TWRP, and root. The only guides I've seen are supposed to update from 23.11.14.
Is the file here the right file? How do I return to stock properly?
wiiareonfire said:
I'm having difficulty figuring out how to approach the update. I'm on the XT1095 running 22.21.11.victara_tmo.tmo.en.US, TWRP, and root. The only guides I've seen are supposed to update from 23.11.14.
Is the file here the right file? How do I return to stock properly?
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Yes, on that page download the full 5.0 factory image. Then flash it to your phone. After that you will be on stock, unrooted, and factory recovery and can take the OTA. The OTA should appear when you look for updates on your phone after that, no need to sideload, well unless you want to, lol.
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Software Status: Modified - Can it be changed back to Software Status: Official?

The phone is a XT1095; Pure Edition
So I unrooted the phone and flash the stock 5.0 image from Motorola.
In the bootloader, it's still showing that the software was modified even though the phone has been unrooted.
I've wiped cache and did a factory reset and still no change.
Any ideas? I'm sending the phone back for RMA and don't want Motorola rejecting my RMA because of the software status.
phamine said:
So I unrooted the phone and flash the stock 5.0 image from Motorola.
In the bootloader, it's still showing that the software was modified even though the phone has been unrooted.
I've wiped cache and did a factory reset and still no change.
Any ideas? I'm sending the phone back for RMA and don't want Motorola rejecting my RMA because of the software status.
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What model do you have? XT10??
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phamine said:
So I unrooted the phone and flash the stock 5.0 image from Motorola.
In the bootloader, it's still showing that the software was modified even though the phone has been unrooted.
I've wiped cache and did a factory reset and still no change.
Any ideas? I'm sending the phone back for RMA and don't want Motorola rejecting my RMA because of the software status.
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You need to reflash firmware.
I'm using a x1095.
I reflashed the stock firmware that is posted on Motorola's webpage.
phamine said:
I'm using a x1095.
I related the stock firmware that is posted on Motorola's webpage.
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Don't worry then. The XT1095 does not lose it's warranty because it is unlocked nd modified, it is the "pure edition".
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This problem have one solution.
1. Restore STOCK firmware with ADB o RSDLITE
2. Install one update with MOTOROLA OTA
only then are transform "modified" to "official"
Sindrome123 said:
This problem have one solution.
1. Restore STOCK firmware with ADB o RSDLITE
2. Install one update with MOTOROLA OTA
only then are transform "modified" to "official"
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Yep, I noticed the same thing. I wonder why flashing stock 5.0 from Motorola doesn't set the status to official.
I don't now. But this is the only mode for change the status modified to oficial.
AGISCI said:
Don't worry then. The XT1095 does not lose it's warranty because it is unlocked nd modified, it is the "pure edition".
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I thought if it was only the bootloader was unlock that would qualify? So with a Pure Edition Software Modified would qualify as well?
Sindrome123 said:
This problem have one solution.
1. Restore STOCK firmware with ADB o RSDLITE
2. Install one update with MOTOROLA OTA
only then are transform "modified" to "official"
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So fastboot method wouldn't work for #1?
I'll try to find an OTA that would work with the stock 5.0 image.
Moto X(2nd Gen) Pure Edition:
L-5.0-LXE22.46-11 TMO
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
Right now if I check for an update on the phone or use Motorola Device Manager, it doesn't pick up any updates.
Modified does not matter on the XT1095. The whole point in unlocking the bootloader is to modify it... So yes being modified ia covered.
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Rooted Moto X with 4.2.2 - how do I update to newer android version?

Sorry for such a basic question. I rooted my Moto X quite a while ago. It is still on 4.2.2, the phone asks me to update every day and I just decline it. How can I update it to a newer version without losing root or causing any issues??
Thanks in advance!
You'll have to lose the root first. But may I suggest you explore the option of unlocking your bootloader 1st before updating as you won't be able to unlock it once you do the update to latest firmware.
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Unroot + Update
treepog said:
Sorry for such a basic question. I rooted my Moto X quite a while ago. It is still on 4.2.2, the phone asks me to update every day and I just decline it. How can I update it to a newer version without losing root or causing any issues??
Thanks in advance!
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Unroot + Update, then Root again...
Thank you both for the replies. Yes, I'd like to unlock bootloader. I don't remember exactly what I used to root since it was a while ago. I believe it was an app. Does it matter? What's the easiest way to unlock bootloader?
How do I unroot since I don't remember exactly how I rooted? Then once I unlock bootloader do I try to get the auto update from Sprint or download the update somewhere?
Thanks again!
bushako said:
You'll have to lose the root first. But may I suggest you explore the option of unlocking your bootloader 1st before updating as you won't be able to unlock it once you do the update to latest firmware.
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nijom said:
Unroot + Update, then Root again...
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You can unroot by the su app but you don't have to be unrooted to take ota's. Just have stock recovery and your stock ROM. If I were you, I wouldn't update the bootloader, so you can easily go back. Lots of complaints about 5.1. So go unlock the bootloader first with root, flash twrp, and then flash this ROM here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3155843
Then if you don't like stock lollipop, you can go back. Lots of people like 4.4.4. This ROM doesn't update the boot loader
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Unable to upgrade to 6.0-marshmallow

Hi,
I'm trying to upgrade my Moto X 2014 to Marshmallow. The OTA upgrade appeared last week, but fails without any error message.
When the devices was new, I unlocked the boot and rooted it. The first upgrade (5.0) installed without any problem, but I chose not to root it anymore.
Upgrade to 5.1 failed. It worked after I reflashed the recovery.img(following idea from Q18 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/wip-frequently-questions-moto-x-2014-t2876769). The same happened with the Stagefright update some time later. Now, the Marshmallow upgrade is available, but reflashing recovery.img is no longer working. It simply fails without any meaningful message. Could someone help me?
Tks,
Roberto
Device:
Moto X 2014, Brazilian retail version, version 23.16.2.victara_retbr.retbr.en.BR.retbr, version number LPE23.32-14.2
rgreiner said:
Hi,
I'm trying to upgrade my Moto X 2014 to Marshmallow. The OTA upgrade appeared last week, but fails without any error message.
When the devices was new, I unlocked the boot and rooted it. The first upgrade (5.0) installed without any problem, but I chose not to root it anymore.
Upgrade to 5.1 failed. It worked after I reflashed the recovery.img(following idea from Q18 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/wip-frequently-questions-moto-x-2014-t2876769). The same happened with the Stagefright update some time later. Now, the Marshmallow upgrade is available, but reflashing recovery.img is no longer working. It simply fails without any meaningful message. Could someone help me?
Tks,
Roberto
Device:
Moto X 2014, Brazilian retail version, version 23.16.2.victara_retbr.retbr.en.BR.retbr, version number LPE23.32-14.2
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Flash the stock 5.1 firmware to get completely back to stock, then try again.
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AGISCI said:
Flash the stock 5.1 firmware to get completely back to stock, then try again.
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Isn't there a way to avoid it? I would like to avoid fully resetting the phone.
Tks,
Roberto
rgreiner said:
Isn't there a way to avoid it? I would like to avoid fully resetting the phone.
Tks,
Roberto
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No there is no other way. An OTA fails if you are not 100% stock. So that means no root, no xposed, no custom kernels, no modifications to anything that is in system. If even one thing is modified it WILL fail. So the solution is to go back to 100% stock by flashing the full firmware.
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AGISCI said:
No there is no other way. An OTA fails if you are not 100% stock. So that means no root, no xposed, no custom kernels, no modifications to anything that is in system. If even one thing is modified it WILL fail. So the solution is to go back to 100% stock by flashing the full firmware.
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That's strange. When I upgraded to 5.1 and 5.1/stagefright, I had exactly the same setup: Boot unlocked, no root. It upgraded fine after just reflashing 'recovery.img'. Actually, when I upgraded from 4.4 to 5.0, the phone was rooted, and yet it upgraded perfectly.
Roberto
rgreiner said:
That's strange. When I upgraded to 5.1 and 5.1/stagefright, I had exactly the same setup: Boot unlocked, no root. It upgraded fine after just reflashing 'recovery.img'. Actually, when I upgraded from 4.4 to 5.0, the phone was rooted, and yet it upgraded perfectly.
Roberto
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Again as I stated, something is modified. In the OTA it checks for modifications, if it finds something modified it fails and exits without upgrading it. So if you want to take the upgrade you need to flash back to stock.
This forum is filled with posts and topics of people having to unroot to get the OTAs to work. So why it worked for you, no idea, since you are the only person I have ever seen who has stated that it worked while rooted. According to every other post on this forum, OTA fails when rooted...
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AGISCI said:
Again as I stated, something is modified. In the OTA it checks for modifications, if it finds something modified it fails and exits without upgrading it. So if you want to take the upgrade you need to flash back to stock.
This forum is filled with posts and topics of people having to unroot to get the OTAs to work. So why it worked for you, no idea, since you are the only person I have ever seen who has stated that it worked while rooted. According to every other post on this forum, OTA fails when rooted...
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Ok. But still, why fully-reflashing? As I said, my phone is NOT rooted since 4.4. It's only boot unlocked, and both 5.0 and 5.1 where installed and no modifications made after that.
rgreiner said:
Ok. But still, why fully-reflashing? As I said, my phone is NOT rooted since 4.4. It's only boot unlocked, and both 5.0 and 5.1 where installed and no modifications made after that.
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Look, somewhere in your phone there IS something that is NOT stock. What it is, we don't know. The ONLY way for you to take an OTA is to be 100% stock, if not it will fail. So the only solution is to get your phone to 100% stock to take the OTA, which means flash the full firmware. If you don't want to flash the full firmware then you will stay on 5.1.
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AGISCI said:
Look, somewhere in your phone there IS something that is NOT stock. What it is, we don't know. The ONLY way for you to take an OTA is to be 100% stock, if not it will fail. So the only solution is to get your phone to 100% stock to take the OTA, which means flash the full firmware. If you don't want to flash the full firmware then you will stay on 5.1.
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Ok,
if that's the only route left, I will try it.
Tks,
Roberto
rgreiner said:
Ok,
if that's the only route left, I will try it.
Tks,
Roberto
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Ok. After backing-up everything I needed, I flashed the stock 5.1 image. Reinstalled all apps (actually, everything reinstalled automatically), restored backups, and then tried the upgrade. Both stagefright and marshmallow upgrades worked fine, and 6.0 is running fine.
Tks.

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