[Q] Jelly like scrolling? - Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh

The Verge just published a review on the Droid Turbo and it says the phone has some kind jelly like scrolling. What do you guys think about it? Is it for real?
I can't post links here, so just search for "Motorola Droid Turbo review" on The Verge's website. They included a gif where you can see what I'm talking about.

I never noticed that on my Turbo.
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I notice it, but it's a subtle effect. If you scroll lightly on a long list of things in the web browser, you might be able to see it.

Yea I have no doubt seen that in the store. Really bothered me.

Mine doesn't do anything like that. Wonder if it's because I switched to ART or if it's only on some devices.

Mine doesn't do that, I even tried it on their site like was in their video and smooth as silk.

Yes, mine does the same thing, though it's not nearly as bad as their example. I'm hoping I'll just get used to it.

Yeah, I returned my Turbo because of the issue. If it gets sorted out with updates I may take the plunge again, but until that time I'm out. There is another thread in the general section talking about the same issue. It's referred to as screen warping in that one.

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That's the gif from theverge's review. I haven't been able to recreate this on my device, I'd recommend asking for an exchanged unit if you see it on your Turbo.

Arkasai said:
That's the gif from theverge's review. I haven't been able to recreate this on my device, I'd recommend asking for an exchanged unit if you see it on your Turbo.
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Yep, that's how mine and all of the display models were. It was more obvious when scrolling though the xda app. Just try holding your finger on the screen, pull it down, and then go back up with it without picking up your finger. Maybe it only effected the first models but I haven't saw one that doesn't have the issue yet. :/ I would have kept it if it weren't for that issue.

jal3223 said:
Yep, that's how mine and all of the display models were. It was more obvious when scrolling though the xda app. Just try holding your finger on the screen, pull it down, and then go back up with it without picking up your finger. Maybe it only effected the first models but I haven't saw one that doesn't have the issue yet. :/ I would have kept it if it weren't for that issue.
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I have a feeling it's a display driver issue, as some other 2560x1440 devices have had varying degrees of severity with this issue. Mine appears flawless in all apps and websites on Chrome, so you might have more luck in the future with a more recent shipment of units.

I have two turbos with a Sept 24th build date, 64gb nylon, both do not have the jelly scroll issue. Tried numerous apps, but I could replicate what I see in that GIF.

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I have a feeling it's a display driver issue, as some other 2560x1440 devices have had varying degrees of severity with this issue. Mine appears flawless in all apps and websites on Chrome, so you might have more luck in the future with a more recent shipment of units.
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I hope you're right. I'm buying off contract so I would have to verify that the issue was fixed in person for me to take the plunge again. Like I said though, all of models that I have seen has it. It's been quite a few too.

I had this issue with my DROID that I bought about a week ago. Returned it since, it still had alot of kinks to work out.

My Turbo 32GB has an Oct 7 build date and I can't replicate that flaw on mine either.

I've noticed this at certain times on my Turbo. Honestly it's subtle to the point that I thought I was imagining it. At least for me personally it doesn't bother me at all. When I first saw it I actually wondered if it was intentional and thought it was kinda cool lol.

Can not replicate the gif. Tried and tried. Used chrome. Is that the browser everyone is using? I assume so since that's what the phone is shipped with. But you never know. I can see how that would be irritating

Just so we're all clear, what that gif is supposed to illustrate is the fact that when you scroll up and down things seem to expand and contract as you do so. Not the delay that appears to be in the gif, that is just part of the effect of the slow mo, all phones have that.
Every droid turbo I have seen has this effect. At this point I've seen it on about 15 phones. I've never seen a droid turbo that does not have it. It is most apparent on sites where there is a lot of color in blocks because it's easier for the eye to see the blocks expanding and contracting than with text
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Anyone know of a good website or app to test for this scrolling effect?
Sent from my XT1254

I see it on my turbo, disabling animations in developer options doesn't do anything. I am not sure its even an animation effect, it may just be some lag in the scaler. Its not specific to a particular app, its throughout android. Hopefully they address it in the next update.

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Screen issues

Anyone else noticing that they have any dark spots on there screen that are slightly dimmer than other spots?
BAMP
Okay, so I noticed that if I press on the screen a little harder than I should that it looks like the LCD under the glass is getting pressed down.
Is this something normal? I don't recall my fascinate ever having this problem? I mean.... yeah the fascinate had problems but not related to the screen.
I don't see this on my Bionic. But my wife's DroidX has an issue similar to what you're describing. It doesn't take much pressure at all, just a normal press on the screen and she gets what looks like an oil slick effect. Does that sound similar to your issue? I know it's off topic, but I was reading some reviews of the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 and a lot of people are reporting an "oil slick" issue with the screen. So I'm wondering if they're all related and possibly a symptom of a particular screen design? I don't think the Tab uses a screen remotely similar to the Moto phones, but the symptoms seem very similar so perhaps they share some type of common design?
When not pressing it looks kind of like this,
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While pressing while playing a game it looks like an oil slick or like color streaks where the LCD is healing itself. Although now super noticeable you can totally see that there are some dark spots in the middle of the screen after I have used it for the last few months.
If you have an image in your previous post, i'm not able to see it...but it sounds just like what my wife's droidX is doing...and the oil slick behavior from the galaxy tab. My wife's screen has been doing that for a few months now and I haven't seen any adverse effects, it just looks funny but works fine otherwise. I believe Samsung is taking back the affected tabs if there's a warranty claim...haven't tried pursuing the issue with my wife's phone tho.
Possibly some good news for you...I just looked at my wife's DroidX last night, and the "oil slick" is gone. Couldn't see it with the screen on or off. I even tried pushing down pretty firmly in the area it was and nothing. Hopefully it goes away for you.
No, it did not. I got a refurb, does the same thing. This one will be going back too.
That's it!
I am having the same issue with my Bionic. I already returned the first one and got a replacement. The replacement was a refurb, which irks me..anyway, this refurb has the same problem and Moto says all they can do is send me another refurb.
This is a serious issue and I bet it's on a lot of their phones. It's not easy to see, so many people probably haven't noticed.
I am really pissed and I'm think about just using insurance to buy a completely different phone instead.
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I am having the same issue with my Bionic. I already returned the first one and got a replacement. The replacement was a refurb, which irks me..anyway, this refurb has the same problem and Moto says all they can do is send me another refurb.
This is a serious issue and I bet it's on a lot of their phones. It's not easy to see, so many people probably haven't noticed.
I am really pissed and I'm think about just using insurance to buy a completely different phone instead.
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How exactly do you go about using the insurance for another phone, I have gone through 3 already and every minute I am on the phone with VZW pushes one step closer to insanity?
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Okay, so I noticed that if I press on the screen a little harder than I should that it looks like the LCD under the glass is getting pressed down.
Is this something normal? I don't recall my fascinate ever having this problem? I mean.... yeah the fascinate had problems but not related to the screen.
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I noticed this on mine too.
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mistawolfe said:
I noticed this on mine too.
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So based on that and, what I would assume some other people as well, that there is probably a general affliction to the device. It could be inferred that it is only a matter of time before people start to realize that there are dark spots on the screen and start to complain.
mistawolfe are you still using the bionic or have you totally switched to the RAZR? Does this issue manifest itself the same was with the RAZR and the BIONIC?
I have the same issue with the LCD distortion when pressed. It was a lot worse with the screen protector on. Not too noticeable now that its off. I figure if I scratch the crap out of my screen I will just get a re-furb sent for the distortion issue...
I can't remember off the top of my head which forum i read this on but the dark spots are due to the construction and materials used to make the screen and isn't a defect at all. As for the "oil slick" effect, i can only imagine that to be an issue where the glass is thinner in certain spots and is actually pressing on the LCD, just like pressing on an LCD monitor.
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Well I went through 3 different Bionics at this point and after a few weeks they all get these dark spots.
Have a replacement Rezound on the way to replace the Bionic. It's too bad that the Bionic, for me, has had so many small issues because it's a solid device with a lot of potential.
And the Rezound is also a turd.
First Verizon sends me a phone and a back cover and "forgot" the battery.
Then get the battery and power the damned thing on to find out I can't log into my google account because HTC "forgot" the ` backtick in the sense keyboard and also "forgot" that the stock android keyboard doesn't suck and doesn't take any effort to include.
I quit. There is obviously no winning.

Screen has got a yellow tint after warming

finally I got my nexus 4 :good:
It looks very good:
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The browsing is good and fast, the pages looks really good, and I like the chrome browser
The colours are pretty good, especially the white:
But!!
after some browsing, or benchmark (when the phone is warming a bit)
It gets yellow tint the left side on the screen (maybe not only there, but there is the most recognisable):
I don't find this is a good product from LG.
I hope this is not usual...but personally I'm disappointed :crying:
Looks like the glue spot issues the One X had/still has...
It's to do with how the screen is glued to the LCD.
I really cba going through issues similar to the One X's launch again, that device had a horrendous hardware launch.
Are you in Europe and did you buy this from an EU carrier? If so, it would seem that LG diverted units from Google to go to other vendors. Google actually had to cancel announced plans to sell the Nexus 4 via Playstore in the Netherlands and Belgium at the very last minute because LG couldn't deliver units. I suspect LG's reputation isn't going to be helped by the disastrous launch of this phone. Google deserves to share the criticism too. (There's a rumor that LG delivered only 5,000 units to Google, but then rumors aren't substantiated and it may well be false. However, the UK Playstore sold out in under an hour and the US Playstore was sold out in under a half and hour so it sounds like there weren't a lot of phones available.)
Yeah this definitely looks like the issue that one x had with their launch. Not good!
Christ almighty, this phone is Frankenstein resurrected. How many things went wrong/are wrong again!? I can't keep track anymore. Worst f-cking phone EVER. Sucks it looks so good though.
didn't the iphone 5 have the same issue and stated for users to wait untill the glue cures completely and the yellow tint should go ?
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I'm really curious what will expect me when I open the packaging of this phone...
meangreenie said:
didn't the iphone 5 have the same issue and stated for users to wait untill the glue cures completely and the yellow tint should go ?
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Yes thats what I read about it too.
meangreenie said:
didn't the iphone 5 have the same issue and stated for users to wait untill the glue cures completely and the yellow tint should go ?
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Here you go: http://www.cultofmac.com/192299/does-your-iphone-5-screen-seem-yellow-dont-worry-overmuch/
Had that on my Nexus S i9023. It's the glue. When heated it turns yellow.
I´m curious because none of the reviewer phones had this problem and they benchmarked the phone a lot etc..
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finally I got my nexus 4 :good:
It looks very good:
The browsing is good and fast, the pages looks really good, and I like the chrome browser
The colours are pretty good, especially the white:
But!!
after some browsing, or benchmark (when the phone is warming a bit)
It gets yellow tint the left side on the screen (maybe not only there, but there is the most recognisable):
I don't find this is a good product from LG.
I hope this is not usual...but personally I'm disappointed :crying:
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If you press down on the screen (on the yellow patch as if reviving a dead pixel), does the yellow patch disfigure? Could be some glue that hasn't set in properly yet...leave it overnight and see if it disappears
Well, if it's after the benchmarks, it means it either got so hot that physically damaged lcd, or just helped glue to evaporate faster than it should. I suggest not pushing it for the first few days cpu wise, let everything dry out as much as possible naturally.
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I´m curious because none of the reviewer phones had this problem and they benchmarked the phone a lot etc..
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indeed, I wonder if the networks (O2..etc got a bad batch of phones...). I bought mine from Google Play earlier today and now I'm scared for my life and hoping that LG didn't screw mass production of this amazing phone up...
On the section 3.5 of Screen section of the French review from frandroid.com here :
http://www.frandroid.com/test/116648_test-du-nexus-4/2/#3
You can see photos of the yellow tint. The text translated from French :
"After some testing, we noticed a weird behavior of the screen on a white background. A blue light escapes from the top of the screen. Moreover, a yellow spot appears. It's sometimes difficult to notice at first sight. Knowing the hardware we have is final, this is very worrisome."
I think it's the same like sony xperia-s screen.
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On the section 3.5 of Screen section of the French review from frandroid.com here :
http://www.frandroid.com/test/116648_test-du-nexus-4/2/#3
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yes...it looks like mine, but another place on the screen.

			
				
Dang.......
Do they always have problem in the nexus line...
I live in the UK and what worries my is, where do I have to post my N4 if I have issues?
This could get expensive if I have to keep posting it back to the US.
Barso1 said:
I live in the UK and what worries my is, where do I have to post my N4 if I have issues?
This could get expensive if I have to keep posting it back to the US.
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Don't be silly, it will be dealt with locally
Just call Google support.

Dim dim dim

Man, I went in with the full intention of buying this today, but the screen was SHOCKINGLY dim. Turned it all the way up. Dim. Thank god my Verizon store is dumb and has the droid table right by the door, so some light was coming in, because I'm site it would not have seemed as bad in the dimmest back corner. Then they had Note4 nest to it, seems out was very bright, sip as to emphasize the Turbo shortcoming even more. Guess I'll wait for Nexus
sent from my LG G3 Rasputin, by far the BEST phone I've ever owned.
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I dont find the screen dim at all.
I have other issues with the phone perhaps... but screen is fine with me
I was shocked. Maybe I'm used to my g3, and compared to the Note unfairly. But it killed it for me
sent from my LG G3 Rasputin, by far the BEST phone I've ever owned.
big70tom said:
I was shocked. Maybe I'm used to my g3, and compared to the Note unfairly. But it killed it for me
sent from my LG G3 Rasputin, by far the BEST phone I've ever owned.
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I hear the update addresses the brightness issue. I haven't gotten my phone yet so I can't confirm.
What update
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What update
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Just go to settings>system>system update.
my turbo seems bright. Haven't had any issues in the sun. I have been surprised by the reviews saying how low the nits are and how dim the screen is. No issues here.
My be that update though as said before.
Mines not dim in the slightest, took it outside while watching softball it was fine, just as bright as my daughter's note 3
Been in two different VZW stores and have seen 6 different Turbo's and I 100% agree. The screen is a deal breaker. Compared to my Z3, the turbos screen is disgusingly bad, both in brightness and color reproduction.
Really bummed about it too because the rest of this device is amazing.
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Been in two different VZW stores and have seen 6 different Turbo's and I 100% agree. The screen is a deal breaker. Compared to my Z3, the turbos screen is disgusingly bad, both in brightness and color reproduction.
Really bummed about it too because the rest of this device is amazing.
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People need to confirm which build they are viewing. There was the day 1 update and many people who have the updated are saying their brightness is fine. There's no patch notes to yet to prove it was altered, but I think its a worthy thing to check if that fact is the only deal breaker for you. You might even be able to update the store models and see a difference.
Newest build is 21.21.15.en.US I believe.
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People need to confirm which build they are viewing. There was the day 1 update and many people who have the updated are saying their brightness is fine. There's no patch notes to yet to prove it was altered, but I think its a worthy thing to check if that fact is the only deal breaker for you. You might even be able to update the store models and see a difference.
Newest build is 21.21.15.en.US I believe.
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My screen is plenty bright. I'm on 21.21.12. I'm afraid to take the update.
rajuabju said:
ok?
I dont find the screen dim at all.
I have other issues with the phone perhaps... but screen is fine with me
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Same. Got mine and the screen is perfect. In fact I use Lux to make it more dim as most phones can only go so dim.
My Turbo seems brighter than my G3
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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the RED Hydrogen One, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the RED Hydrogen One is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Pretty much everyone in the Houdini program (pre-release testing) appear to just **love** their device.
I've had mine for about two weeks now and have grown to absolutely love it! While the industrial design may be a stark departure for some, the scalloped edges make me feel really comfortable not using a case. Its really clear that this device is well built.
It runs a fairly stock version of Android 8.1, and I receive OS updates every few days to address bug fixes. Funny thing is, I haven't witnessed any bugs myself. While it's not an SD845, most users won't be able to tell the difference at all. This thing FLIES! I think until the next snapdragon SOC shrinks down a bit to single digit nm size, the performance gains won't be significant enough for users to really be measurably different in real world tasks.
Battery life is bonkers! I'm constantly demoing the device at full brightness for several hours a day, and on those days will end with about 40% life left. On my "off days" of regular use, I will typically only get to about 60-65% by the end of the night. I'm quite comfortable saying this will last some users two days.
The camera is fantastic as well! I looked it up in AIDA and it doesn't say who makes them, but the specs say 12.3 MP and 1.55 μm cell size. There's a few devices on the market with the exact same specs and both are praised for their camera prowess. I think what makes this one so awesome is the spacing between the cameras, which makes for the awesome 4-View holographic effect but also creates an awesome depth of field mode. I'll see if I can post some samples later today. The 4-View screen is something you just have to see. I won't bother explaining it, but I'll say that adding depth to photos makes me feel like a great photographer, even though I'm typically best outfitted with a potato cam.
Just got this phone. Loving it! When can we root it? Come on, guys! Chop Chop!
StormCell said:
Just got this phone. Loving it! When can we root it? Come on, guys! Chop Chop!
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I just got my 2nd unit; so, I can start to experiment a little.
BUT, I have a *lot* to learn as my last Android device started
in KitKat and runs Nougat today. From a cursory look, quite
a bit has changed since then with a/b updates and the like.
Oh, and finding time for these experiments is another issue...
It's rootable but we need to get the bootloader unlocked. I'm going to ask Red if I can get the key. Will update once that happens.
LP
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It's rootable but we need to get the bootloader unlocked. I'm going to ask Red if I can get the key. Will update once that happens.
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OEM unlocking is in Dev options...
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OEM unlocking is in Dev options...
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Yes I am aware... But my "houdini" unit needs a fastboot code. We're you able to unlock yours, without?
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Yeah, not yet. Rooting have been some time for me as I had an iPhone for a while and just switched back. Kinda learning again. But I did send a message to a RED team member asking for the unlock code so we'll see.
Just got mine today does anyone know how to take portrait mode pics. PS love it so far
I just installed the pixel 3 camera app and OMG does it unlock the potential of this phone.
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It's rootable but we need to get the bootloader unlocked. I'm going to ask Red if I can get the key. Will update once that happens.
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If you bought directly from RED they will send you the Key to unlock. Hopefully you can work your magic with that. They are not allowed by contract to do that with Carrier phones.
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I just installed the pixel 3 camera app and OMG does it unlock the potential of this phone.
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You installed it on the RED ONE? How can you shoot 4V with that?
No you can't shoot 4v with the pixel camera app
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I just installed the pixel 3 camera app and OMG does it unlock the potential of this phone.
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I tried various versions but couldn't get it going, can you post a link to the one that works?
update all Red apps, and you can take portrait or landscape front and back
Good morning Red One users. I have an opportunity to purchase one of these from AT&T and was wondering if anyone can confirm that the speaker has gotten better for hands-free calling. I'm basing this off of a YouTuber who said he cannot hold phone conversations over speakerphone without the other party saying they can't understand him so he has to switch to handset. I've had a chance to see the demo and the AT&T store and they have only one left and they're holding it for me until close today.
I did notice when I was in the AT&T store looking at the demo I noticed the LG I was currently using had all of its signal bars but the hydrogen only had about 3. So I'm wondering if anyone has had any signal issues or drop coverage. I know this depends on your cellphone provider towers locations. Just wondering if anyone saw any drop off in cellphone coverage from previous devices?
I have both the AT&T version as well as the unlocked Titanium. Both operate on the AT&T network without issue. The signal bar has never dropped below half that I'm aware of and I have not had coverage issues even while traveling.

Question Redmi Note 10s - Camera issue. Please advise.

I purchased a Redmi Note 10s for about now 2 months. I understand it is a budget device, but I am trying to see if anyone who is more knowledgeable on Android than me knows what may be occurring here. Yes, I have tried to Google the solution but to no avail. I'm sorry.
The device works fine overall, but the other day I started the camera app and I noticed there is a line at the top of the frame when in any mode other than 1:1.
If I place the camera in a 1:1 ratio, there is no line (since it shortens the top), anything else there is this stuck annoying line at the top. Now, what is peculiar is that when using the stock camera app, and we go video, the line at the top moves according to how I move the device around, it is not stuck. Also, I noticed the line at the top changes color, depending on background and weirdest thing of all.. it applied this line to all my pictures that I took PRIOR to this issue occurring.
Also, I tried gcam and other camera apps. In photo mode, same story, line at the top is stuck, but when we go video on these other apps, the line now does not "move" like in the stock camera app but is also stuck in video mode as well.
Now, its either hardware or software I know. I have not done a total reset yet but may later on but since I got a bunch of logins and apps downloaded and what not, I wonder if anyone knows a solution about this issue.
Hardware: Impossible unless the build is this bad for Xiaomi Redmi devices. I never smacked the device, it never fell nor has any liquid damage. I babied it since day 1.
Software: I think it could likely be more a software issue than hardware but pls enlighten me why and how to fix.
Thank you,
Does it happen using every lens or just one lens? What you describe sounds like some sort of spirit levelling/guide lines, although they shouldn't be present on a saved image, unless some option is enabled to do so. Try resetting the app, just write down settings you want to remember first.
I recommend trying the gcam port app instead of the stock one too, much better images.
Post a sample photo and screenshot demonstrating the glitch.
it applied this line to all my pictures that I took PRIOR to this issue occurring.
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It is happening only with the main lens, not the others.
I went ahead and wiped data. Issue persist unfortunately.
When I point the camera towards a bright light, you can see the top line becoming blue and part of it disappearing.
Will post images soon to give you a better idea.
Yes I did try other apps such as gcam. Same issue.
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rilbel said:
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From the looks of it, it seems like you have a faulty sensor. Just have your phone replaced from where you bought it.
Agreed with jacobpayag, looks like an RMA job, for a faulty sensor.
I bought it from wirelessplace, and I am unable to return or exchange unfortunately since it has been over 30 days. I emailed them but.. I doubt they will do anything. I guess I will keep it as is. No Xiaomi CS in the USA, I do not believe I can RMA this device. Please advise.
Thank you,
Sorry I can't help you with consumer rights laws in the USA. I'd be surprised if you couldn't have it repaired or replaced within 12 months from purchase though.
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Sorry I can't help you with consumer rights laws in the USA. I'd be surprised if you couldn't have it repaired or replaced within 12 months from purchase though.
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Just called them and they only RMA devices sold within the USA, which does not include mobile phones or smartwatches.
I mean I'll keep the phone, its overall a great device and I am not huge on photos or anything but still.. to have a defect after 2 months? Not giving me much faith in their QC for future purchases.
rilbel said:
Just called them and they only RMA devices sold within the USA, which does not include mobile phones or smartwatches.
I mean I'll keep the phone, its overall a great device and I am not huge on photos or anything but still.. to have a defect after 2 months? Not giving me much faith in their QC for future purchases.
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That's why I still prefer buying phones physically. Also, you could try to repair the device yourself. I think you can buy the camera module online and AFAIK, you can replace each individual camera instead of having all 4 replaced.
You'll lose any waterproofing if you do open it up, it looks like a real chore to get started but here's a vid in case do:

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