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Hey all
Ive had my XZ now for a few days and i'm over the moon with it. I was worried reading reviews and opinions on the screen etc but I really think its great. I have one small issue with it that I just wanted to know if it was normal, or if indeed I might have an issue somewhere.
Now, I've never used this project butter android before, but flicking between menus gives quite frequent "jumps" in the animation as soon on older android operating systems. Also, if I play any games, even basic 2D ones, I still get the hiccups in the frame rates. IE ill get a couple of seconds of it being totally smooth, and then a hiccup where it jumps a few frames. Its not a deal breaker, but it is annoying.
Now, if I put the phone into airplane mode, then everything runs absolutely smooth, no hiccups in the UI, and games run absolutely flawlessly.
Is this normal, or should it still run totally smooth regardless of settings?
when not in Airplane mode, i checked with WIFI on and off, Mobile data On and off also. Bluetooth is always off, and so is NFC. The issue only seems to resolve itself in Airplane mode.
Can anyone help with this issue, or is it normal for this phone?
Thanks in advance :good:
everything should run smooth
do you run those games from older Sd card (class 2 or 4)
maybe you should do factory reset and check if everything works like it should or repair via SEUS (sony update service)
Did you do a fresh install of the apps or did you restore them from a previous phone using titanium?
There is currently no SD card installed so everything is coming off the interal memory.
I havent done a reset or anything as I didnt think of that seeing as it was new out the box and only a few days old.
All the apps that I had previously or had bought I just redownloaded from Google Play.
kristianity1977 said:
Hey all
Ive had my XZ now for a few days and i'm over the moon with it. I was worried reading reviews and opinions on the screen etc but I really think its great. I have one small issue with it that I just wanted to know if it was normal, or if indeed I might have an issue somewhere.
Now, I've never used this project butter android before, but flicking between menus gives quite frequent "jumps" in the animation as soon on older android operating systems. Also, if I play any games, even basic 2D ones, I still get the hiccups in the frame rates. IE ill get a couple of seconds of it being totally smooth, and then a hiccup where it jumps a few frames. Its not a deal breaker, but it is annoying.
Now, if I put the phone into airplane mode, then everything runs absolutely smooth, no hiccups in the UI, and games run absolutely flawlessly.
Is this normal, or should it still run totally smooth regardless of settings?
when not in Airplane mode, i checked with WIFI on and off, Mobile data On and off also. Bluetooth is always off, and so is NFC. The issue only seems to resolve itself in Airplane mode.
Can anyone help with this issue, or is it normal for this phone?
Thanks in advance :good:
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Yeah, me too. I was playing Temple Run OZ and the phone get really warm and it began to show frames and lag
Well in the end, to get around the "oh so not smooth" Sony UI, i went with a different launcher called Apex. Now its running as expected. I hope the impending update to 4.2 solves these issues as its a bit rubbish to have lags and skips on a phone this powerful. But I might just keep with the alternate launcher anyway
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Well in the end, to get around the "oh so not smooth" Sony UI, i went with a different launcher called Apex. Now its running as expected. I hope the impending update to 4.2 solves these issues as its a bit rubbish to have lags and skips on a phone this powerful. But I might just keep with the alternate launcher anyway
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it happens for all phone
little bit lagy UI
don't worry about sony UI
i saw this problem in all android phones from htc, samsung & sony
it should be fixed but even ur PC have little bit lag when using it alot
The M10 build of CM11 just came out, I read the blog post and saw the new version in my OTA updates (I flashed CWM to internal so I can do that and have for a few versions). I know it will probably go smoothly, but the horror stories about boot loops, soft bricks, and Android system process crashes that I've read about in the comments make me really nervous. Nobody's yet posted about the HD+/Ovation, but the first 5 CM11 M updates were all bad, even with a complete wipe, so I don't want to take the risk.
I am aware, though, that there are many users here who literally keep their devices for development and ROM testing purposes and don't have (much) personal date to worry about losing. Not so for me. So, I was wondering, could anyone do a CWM backup to SD, perform the OTA upgrade from the settings panel, and write a review/say what happens? Note that I have the most recent gapps installed, so those should be tested because they may cause issues.
Preferably someone with gapps who was going to do an upgrade anyway, so I don't inconvenience anyone by having them upgrade where they otherwise wouldn't.
You hint, but do not really say, that you already have CM11 installed. If so what version?
Many have already tried M10 and said there are issues with media scanner if you dirty install. See the CM11 thread.
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You hint, but do not really say, that you already have CM11 installed. If so what version?
Many have already tried M10 and said there are issues with media scanner if you dirty install. See the CM11 thread.
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M9, and it works perfectly, which is why I'm wary about updating. Also, the media scanner error can apparently be fixed by wiping the app's data/cache in settings and rebooting.
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M9, and it works perfectly, which is why I'm wary about updating. Also, the media scanner error can apparently be fixed by wiping the app's data/cache in settings and rebooting.
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I installed M10 over M9, and it went very smooth. The usually two reboots, followed by optimising apps, and everything is up and running again. If anything comes up, I will certainly mention it.
Seanthedroid said:
The M10 build of CM11 just came out, I read the blog post and saw the new version in my OTA updates (I flashed CWM to internal so I can do that and have for a few versions). I know it will probably go smoothly, but the horror stories about boot loops, soft bricks, and Android system process crashes that I've read about in the comments make me really nervous. Nobody's yet posted about the HD+/Ovation, but the first 5 CM11 M updates were all bad, even with a complete wipe, so I don't want to take the risk.
I am aware, though, that there are many users here who literally keep their devices for development and ROM testing purposes and don't have (much) personal date to worry about losing. Not so for me. So, I was wondering, could anyone do a CWM backup to SD, perform the OTA upgrade from the settings panel, and write a review/say what happens? Note that I have the most recent gapps installed, so those should be tested because they may cause issues.
Preferably someone with gapps who was going to do an upgrade anyway, so I don't inconvenience anyone by having them upgrade where they otherwise wouldn't.
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I went from 10.2.1 to cm 11 nightlies just a few weeks ago and was pleased except for a few glitches like screen flashes between apps. When m10 came out I decided to go for what I understood as a generally more stable rom. Unfortunately I did not wipe first as I had upgraded from previous nghtlies without a problem. I had some issues as mentioned in another thread and realized you must wipe before install and I reinstalled. So far so good and I thank titanium for making restoration so easy. I still see screen flashes and a few random crashes but it seems good.
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I installed M10 over M9, and it went very smooth. The usually two reboots, followed by optimising apps, and everything is up and running again. If anything comes up, I will certainly mention it.
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I've just upgraded to m10, it's smooth and stable
But my device is slow, maybe cpu of nook hd+ is weak
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USRobotics said:
I've just upgraded to m10, it's smooth and stable
But my device is slow, maybe cpu of nook hd+ is weak
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My HD+ also seems quite slow, especially as I load more apps on the 32GB internal card. My 7" HD has no issues with m10 nightlies, and is quite peppy.
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My HD+ also seems quite slow, especially as I load more apps on the 32GB internal card. My 7" HD has no issues with m10 nightlies, and is quite peppy.
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I had noticed an interesting sort of choppiness or hitching after first flashing M10 but it either has gone away or I'm now adjusted to it. It wasn't much to begin with but it was there. Otherwise, that was all.
My nook is ~138 apps during the cache configuration (art) upon first boot as the best number I can give for app load. Surely the more apps and the more background services running on the device the harder it will be for it to keep everything going as fast as possible. If your not on art, that might help (recovery backup first for safety + be aware of art's hunger for more internal storage).
Otherwise, its also possible to "out grow" the device and need something more powerful at the same screen size. If your needs change, the device may need to be changed. (Or similar). Too many apps and you could find yourself there.
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If your not on art, that might help (recovery backup first for safety + be aware of art's hunger for more internal storage).
Otherwise, its also possible to "out grow" the device and need something more powerful at the same screen size. If your needs change, the device may need to be changed. (Or similar). Too many apps and you could find yourself there.
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I tried ART with no improvement, so i am just going to experiment with a different build. My wife has an identical, fully loaded HD+ that zips right along on CM 10 with Jelly Bean, and my HD has no lag with KitKat, so I am not worried that the hardware will not handle the job. My son has an old Nook Tablet (pre-HD) that is really peppy on CM11 KitKat. I think all the Nook models are great for modding, and I am sure I will get this one performing as I like once I hit on the right combination.
** UPDATE ** I installed the latest Pac-Man ROM and I am now getting the performance I hoped for.
Installed M10. Did full wipe.
Was running a nightly from 03/2014 that was rock solid and fast (using ART).
All I can say to any one thinking of going to M10 is prepare to be disappointed. Its really laggy, even with other launchers, it looks terrible, the refresh rate/redraws/whatever are really obvious. Uncomfortably obvious. The screen sensitivity is really bad. Not responsive at all. I am looking forward to checking out the battery life over the next few days, because I have a sneaking suspicion it will deliver the trifecta of slower speeds, less responsive screen and worse battery life.
Trebuchet seems to be getting worse and worse. I wish Cyanogenmod would do a deal with one of the proper launchers and stop subjecting us to the substandard experience that is Trebuchet.
Oh yeah, and to top it all, the HD+ will no longer turn off. Selecting power off in the power menu just reboots the device. I now have to reboot into recovery and power off from there.
I am really disappointed. After all that effort backing up, wiping and reinstalling everything and actually took several (so many!) steps backwards.
gandalf_grey91 said:
Installed M10. Did full wipe.
Was running a nightly from 03/2014 that was rock solid and fast (using ART).
All I can say to any one thinking of going to M10 is prepare to be disappointed. Its really laggy, even with other launchers, it looks terrible, the refresh rate/redraws/whatever are really obvious. Uncomfortably obvious. The screen sensitivity is really bad. Not responsive at all. I am looking forward to checking out the battery life over the next few days, because I have a sneaking suspicion it will deliver the trifecta of slower speeds, less responsive screen and worse battery life.
Trebuchet seems to be getting worse and worse. I wish Cyanogenmod would do a deal with one of the proper launchers and stop subjecting us to the substandard experience that is Trebuchet.
Oh yeah, and to top it all, the HD+ will no longer turn off. Selecting power off in the power menu just reboots the device. I now have to reboot into recovery and power off from there.
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I upgraded to M10 from M9 and so far had none of the issues you described. The only and somewhat minor problem is ~25% of Playstore app updates would abort on first try.
FWIW I use the Nova launcher and love it.
digixmax said:
I upgraded to M10 from M9 and so far had none of the issues you described. The only and somewhat minor problem is ~25% of Playstore app updates would abort on first try.
FWIW I use the Nova launcher and love it.
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I can only report the facts, I was expecting a different experience from M10. Generally, I also choose to use Nova but on M10 it is suddenly jerky, jagged and uncomfortably laggy.
I believe the Play store issue is a google issue, which seems to come and go as they update Play store app. For me, it started in March of this year, was fixed later on and then came back a couple of months later, only to disappear a few weeks later..
Update: the Power Off = Reboot issue cleared up after 3 reboots/power offs. Its now working properly.
Hello,
I've updated my Nexus 7 first-gen recently to Android 5.0 and since than have spent a good amount of time using it. I use the tablet for work and fun through out my whole day, so snappiness is a big factor for me. With the 4.4 update, the tablet just got a lot slower, sometimes I needed to wait for a few seconds before I am able to kill a task. Clearing cache didn't fix the issue.
Made me think about that 5.0 update a lot. (Note that I actively started using the tablet only a few months ago. I had it for 2 years but broke the screen 3 weeks after buying it and only now I decided to repair it.)
The 5.0 update it self took a good 45 minutes. When I loaded it up for the first time, man it was buggy, I couldn't complete a single task without it bugging out. All of the Apps and settings were there untouched. The first thing I did, was go into recovery mode and cleared the cache. Then I cleared the cache for every individual app. And that boosted the performance by 100%. Next, the animations, I cut them down to 0.5x and turned on GPU rendering (just for testing) turns out that helped out a lot. I didn't notice a difference in load times, like some articles suggested.
However there are a few quirks, the sound lags behind the slider, so if I crank up the volume to MAX it will take a moment to do so. I often found my self having to tap the apps drawer button more than once to open it. And the killing of tasks is not as easy as before, now you have to slide from one side to the other in order to kill a task you can't just kick it to the side. Also, the auto-brightness is really aggressive so I disabled that. The WiFi status, when you click on a WiFi connection seems to be broken since in portrait mode all the letters are separated, and at first I couldn't make out any of it. And the biggest downer for me is the keyboard, I think they didn't do any favors with it. I have larger thumbs and it will take some time getting used to the keyboard. These are all small things, but they affect my experience.
Now the good stuff, where do I begin? The interface, it's great I like the design and the contrasts. Performance, I guess that's the biggest question since this is not exactly cutting edge hardware. To summarize it, it's good. I haven't had any issues since I cleared the cache, apps are running as they should, games as well, multitasking is as expected, fluid. Later on I switched the animations to 1.5x and 2.5x. no issues there. Boot up times, something completely irrelevant to me, but since there are people that would like to know, it takes around 30-40 seconds to boot up. However, Chrome is still the biggest enemy. If you want something to make your tablet miserable and make you wait and get frustrated because of it's unresponsiveness, you won't need to search far, just get Chrome.
All in all, the update was a step up, and an improvement.
These were my 2 cents on the subject. Hope it was of use to someone.
thanks for the review. I also updated a few days ago when the ota came through. So far, I'm experiencing terrible lag. I don't have anything stored on the N7 and don't have many apps. There is a ton of available storage on my 32gb. I did a factory rest about 3 months ago, as I like to every now and then to give the N7 a fresh start. I think I may have to yet again and keep my fingers crossed. Unfortunately, it's unusable at this point.
My experience has been variable, but not unexpected. In the past I have had issues with installing OTAs resulting in poor performance -- sluggish response to touch, certain apps immediately displayed odd lag, etc. Going from 4.4.4 to 5.0 was no different. So, I performed a factory reset and the effects were stark. The performance is exactly where you would expect it to be for Lollipop i.e. it is smooth.
HOWEVER, all is not well. There seems to be a set of problems that I suspect is related to Lollipop utilizing the ART runtime. Certain apps, even before performing a factory reset, were really really slow when running the first time. I have experienced this before: when I tried out ART when it became available on the Galaxy Nexus. Two common apps this occurs with are Facebook and Mint. Who's to blame? The app developers? Google? Don't know but hopefully these issues get resolved soon.
alphabets said:
thanks for the review. I also updated a few days ago when the ota came through. So far, I'm experiencing terrible lag. I don't have anything stored on the N7 and don't have many apps. There is a ton of available storage on my 32gb. I did a factory rest about 3 months ago, as I like to every now and then to give the N7 a fresh start. I think I may have to yet again and keep my fingers crossed. Unfortunately, it's unusable at this point.
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Ugh, that is quite an issue. Have you tried wiping the cache? You should check your usage, you might be able to find out what's hogging your system, unless it's the OS it self.
AuroEdge said:
My experience has been variable, but not unexpected. In the past I have had issues with installing OTAs resulting in poor performance -- sluggish response to touch, certain apps immediately displayed odd lag, etc. Going from 4.4.4 to 5.0 was no different. So, I performed a factory reset and the effects were stark. The performance is exactly where you would expect it to be for Lollipop i.e. it is smooth.
HOWEVER, all is not well. There seems to be a set of problems that I suspect is related to Lollipop utilizing the ART runtime. Certain apps, even before performing a factory reset, were really really slow when running the first time. I have experienced this before: when I tried out ART when it became available on the Galaxy Nexus. Two common apps this occurs with are Facebook and Mint. Who's to blame? The app developers? Google? Don't know but hopefully these issues get resolved soon.
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I also tried out the ART on some devices, mine were not even supported. There were a lot crashes but I also noticed some performance improvements.
Does factory reset also wipe the cache?
My Lollipop experience with my 16 GB WiFi-only Grouper isn't as good as yours. First, I thought I messed something up by rooting it with NRT, but after a manual factory image (flash-all.bat failed out of the box) without root it didn't get any better.
Most time its not as responsive as my N5, I've already had 1-2 minute hangs followed by hung apps (Google Search/GNL, system in most cases) and heavy lagging under most conditions. From time to time its getting close to 75-80% of the smoothness experienced on the N5 (which has better hardware, of course).
I have no idea what went wrong, I've already enabled 2D GPU hardware acceleration, but I'll definitely wipe the cache in recovery once more - you never know...
Thanks for the extensive review - Chrome is just a pain in the a** if you don't have at least 2 GB memory available.
iolinux333 said:
Does factory reset also wipe the cache?
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I suggest wiping cache, because you get to keep your apps and settings.
DoNuT_1985 said:
My Lollipop experience with my 16 GB WiFi-only Grouper isn't as good as yours. First, I thought I messed something up by rooting it with NRT, but after a manual factory image (flash-all.bat failed out of the box) without root it didn't get any better.
Most time its not as responsive as my N5, I've already had 1-2 minute hangs followed by hung apps (Google Search/GNL, system in most cases) and heavy lagging under most conditions. From time to time its getting close to 75-80% of the smoothness experienced on the N5 (which has better hardware, of course).
I have no idea what went wrong, I've already enabled 2D GPU hardware acceleration, but I'll definitely wipe the cache in recovery once more - you never know...
Thanks for the extensive review - Chrome is just a pain in the a** if you don't have at least 2 GB memory available.
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One thing I forgot to mention is that after the cache wipe the tablet was fairly fast but I also went into Settings > Storage, and noticed I have a lot of app data which frankly shouldn't be that much. I then went and cleared cache manually on every app and as it turns out, I managed to scrape off another 1GB there. So, I'm not sure how that would affect the overhaul system performance but it sure helped me get the snappiness I have right now.
Looks like wiping the cache had an impact on performance. I wasn't able to play around much, but it definitely felt faster after first reboot.
Too bad I just noticed my user partion only had 6,x GB (8 GB image obviously) - there are so many ways you could f**k up an Android system - so I'll have to format user data once more, approximately the third or fourth time in the last week.
Sometimes I understand why people fancy those awful Apple devices, but let's hope the speed boost persists.
Go in and delete all the apps in system folder that can be installed from play store and are not needed. After installing the lollipop images you have 11mb in system which seems to be main cause of lag. I freed up like 160 mb and no lag or stuttering. Not sure why google kept things like dialer and other things unusable on the tablet in there.
Also get now launcher and delete launcher.
For even better performance get faux kernel (Set kernel up to his recommendations) and/or install aosp 5.0 F2FS with minimal 5.0 gapps.
Oh I do have a problem with WiFi being weaker on 5.0 though.
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i am getting terrible lag too. last week i updated with the OTA file. wiping the cache improved performance but only for a short time. i guess eventually if ii want the speed back on my 2012 nexus 7 i am going to have to root and go back to jellybean
KiljoyMcCoy said:
Go in and delete all the apps in system folder that can be installed from play store and are not needed. After installing the lollipop images you have 11mb in system which seems to be main cause of lag. I freed up like 160 mb and no lag or stuttering. Not sure why google kept things like dialer and other things unusable on the tablet in there.
Also get now launcher and delete launcher.
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Thanks, that sped up things significantly. It's definitely a memory problem, because event on full stock setup you're getting glances of Lollipop smoothness.
But WTH is Google delivering a potentially lagging factory image? Couldn't they just resize /system by default in order to fit in all apps nicely? Well, that's Android - if it doesn't work, you have tons of options to fix it.
After my old N7 screen broke, I got a new refurbished 16GB unit for about US$100.
Had some bootloader issue earlier while trying to flash lollipop, and had to revert back to 4.2.2. Then it got all the OTA up to lollipop, and is running really well since.
Loving it now, better than most non-lollipop newer tablets around...
Lollipop is big disappointment. I hate new notification (double swipe down to access settings)
I am back on 4.4.4 Slimkat rom with Legokernel and f2fs
now is system smooth without lags
Listening to some of the advice in this thread, I rebooted into Recovery and wiped cache (I did it 3 times, because why not, right?)
In addition, I went into the developer settings and turned OFF "Force GPU".
After doing both of those, my performance seems to have greatly improved (specifically Chrome, which was borderline unusable).
For reference, I flashed the factory image from 4.4.4, and didn't get it OTA.
DoNuT_1985 said:
Sometimes I understand why people fancy those awful Apple devices, but let's hope the speed boost persists.
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Not any more! I have three new iOS devices and things are far, far worse since iOS 8 dropped. Apple now holds the lag crown. At least with Android you can revert back to earlier versions that worked. With Apple all you can do is whimper at the master's feet.
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Go in and delete all the apps in system folder that can be installed from play store and are not needed. After installing the lollipop images you have 11mb in system which seems to be main cause of lag. I freed up like 160 mb and no lag or stuttering.
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UTTER nonsense. Stop it. System being full affects nothing; it's read-only.
Is there a way to disable the storage encryption that is enabled by default? Disabling this apparently had huge performance upgrade for the nexus 6
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Lollipop is big disappointment. I hate new notification (double swipe down to access settings)
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Swipe once with two fingers.
I've done cleaned every thing in this ROM, repeatedly. Hopefully CM 12 will make it work!
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UTTER nonsense. Stop it. System being full affects nothing; it's read-only.
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understand what you are saying but after doing so i have no lag.
Have 2 x 2012 and both were lagging. After trying other things i deleted stuff in system and both are very smooth now. Very happy with them.
Even wiped and re installed one and just deleted stuff in system, to make sure it wasn't something else or a combo of things i did prior.
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
I'd recommend flashing a rom like pure nexus, super stable that should fix your problem, otherwise you've done all you can and is the easiest fix
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I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving​ apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
Finding the culprit will...
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5.1 said:
Hello,
It seems like some apps are really slowing down your phone. I use my N6 at home for web browsing mostly as I have a Pixel XL now. Just like you I love the screen size.
The camera has always been slow fore, because of the time it takes to focus...
Did you try using your phone a few days without Snapchat installed? Maybe you also have other misbehaving​ apps installed.
Uninstall Snapchat and other apps and start from here. Reinstall one per one with a few days interval. See if the issue still occurs.
Installing a custom ROM + kernel will likely speed up things a little bit. I second @Dugaldrob with Pure Nexus and I'd suggest ElementalX kernel on top. Running this combo on N6, N6P and Pixel XL and they work flawlessly.
I don't believe installing a custom ROM alone will fix your issue though. Stock ROM shouldn't cause the phone to slow down to the point you need to reboot to use it.
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Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Thanks
First step is to remove Snapchat. I rarely use the app and only because my daughter sends stuff on it. I am going to tell her to send me stuff via another method
If that doesn't work then it's a new ROM. I have performed ROM installs before but have never flashed a new kernel on a phone before so that will be a new experience. Hopefully I won't brick the phone
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Hello,
Don't worry, it's really easy. Also, if you are lost, there must be a ton of tutorials in general section. If you are lost yet, just ask and someone will point you in the right direction...
Good luck...
lchiu7 said:
I have a N6 purchased Dec 2015 new from Amazon. The only mods, if you can call it that is, I have unlocked the boot loader. I am currently running N6F26Y sideloaded via ADB.
The phone was great when I first got it but now after about a day or so of usage it becomes slow and sluggish and unresponsive I have to restart it to use it. I have done a factory reset a couple of times which gets it back to normal for a week or so and then the problem recurs. Occasionally I will delete the cache which also helps. Snapchat is one of the worse apps - crashes the phone regularly and is a very slow app.
Also the camera can get very slow often taking seconds to take one photo.
I love the phone but it's becoming unusable now. The contrast between this and a new phone (I have purchased a Moto Z) is like night and day. The Moto Z runs instantly, has no lag and is a nice phone. But what I like about the N6 is the large screen which makes it great for videos etc.
Short of perhaps flashing some custom ROM is there anything I could be doing?
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I've been running Pure Nexus and wanted to let peeps know I put Nitrogen on and man it's so smooth, my wifi tether is back and I went to sleep last night with 50% battery still. When I installed it I opted for the nano gapps I think so like 175mb for minimal apps and maybe that's why it's running so efficient. Maybe I could have re-installed Pure Nexus with a clean install and it would have gotten better but it was a good time to try something else. Also when Nitrogen got an update I was notified just like stock and it downloaded. I didn't even know these could do that. Anyways give it a try and you might just switch back. I was looking into new phones but if it keeps working so smooth with battery longer than a day then I'm fine for now.
Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
zelendel said:
... It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
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I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
NLBeev said:
I can confirm this, because I've removed these apps (-whatsapp) and also decrypted the data partition...
My N6 is fast.
Maybe a lite stock ROM and an other kernel is a good start.
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Currently I have FB, FB messenger, and Chrome but when I installed gapps I chose a super lite install so tons of bloat and google apps were not installed and my battery has gone way up and it's so smooth. I'm sure even when we don't use apps they're always doing something in the background. I bet you're right and a stock lite ROM would be good too with the minimal bs apps.
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Snap chat is not that big of an issue. What I have found to cause the device to slow down is normally almost full device storage and a crappy cache release code in apps. Some apps don't release their cache properly. So it causes lag. This is why a reboot seems to fix it.
While a custom rom may fix this issue it is not the solution. The proper solution is to find what is causing it and fix/repair/ditch it.
Worst offenders for crappy code in my thoughts. Other will disagree with one on this list I am sure. So don't bother. I know people swear by it. It runs like crap for me at times and causes my whole device to lag until I close it out.
1 Facebook
2 FB messenger
3 Google Chrome ( don't do it lol)
4 whatsapp
5 Hangouts
Mind you this is just a list on my usage. It may very per user and even device (considering different hardware)
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Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
lchiu7 said:
Thanks for the advice. Of the list of apps above I have only Chrome and Hangouts. I really can't see replacing either of them.
I also should have pointed out that the phone locks up randomly requiring a hard reset. I wonder if an errant app could cause that or I have some RAM problem. Certainly on a PC bad RAM can use in Windows a blue screen or something but perhaps Android isn't so forgiving?
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I would flash TWRP, flash supersu in TWRP to root, make a complete backup in twrp, then remove whatever Google apps you're not using with a system app removal app. Getting some of that bloat off the device should help. If it's still laggy, then look into a custom ROM. I run Tesla on my Nexus 6 with none of the issues you're having. I don't decrypt it either
Running abdroid 7.1 here. I dont get any slowdowns, at leas until the battery doesnt drop below 50 and 25 percent.
Im running a custom kernel and my phone is rooted. Everything else is stock.
Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
lchiu7 said:
Can you flash a custom kernel and presumably TWRP without wiping the phone? If so then might try that before a custom ROM
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Hello,
Since your bootloader is unlocked, flash TWRP and install the kernel, no problem.
Might give you a slight boost at first sight, but your device will likely slow down over time anyway...
Cheers...
I'm on 7.0 with the April SP. I have dozens of apps installed, including Hangouts. I use Firefox for browsing, I like it better than chrome (and you can install an ad blocker).
My camera slows down when the battery is under 40%, and the whole device slows dramatically, though not unusable, at or below 5%. But otherwise, no issues what so ever.
One solution that I have not seen suggested here is resetting the device and NOT taking the Google account backup of all your apps. I would suggest making a completely clean install of the factory rom you have and installing one or two apps at a time, most important to you first. And do this for a few days/weeks until you find the app that's misbehaving.
Although there are general bad players out there, this bad app could be unique to your device. Just because all devices of the same model have the same specs and components, doesn't mean that there isn't variability in parts quality.
I would do this before trying any new roms or kernels. Find the true problem first.
Good luck!
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I had another idea: Go into your battery stats and network stats and storage stats and see if any app seems to be using too much of any, or all of the 3. This may get you the answer more quickly.
I've been using the Pixel 4 XL for over a month now but lately there's a lot of scrolling lag. Especially on Google feed and Play Store. It doesn't matter if 90hz is forced on or off, it stutters and lags when scrolling and it's very unsightly especially when trying to show off against iPhone users who want to check out my phone. Other than that, performance is excellent.
I'm running 100% stock with the January update.
Anyone else facing the same issues and what could be done to alleviate or completely resolve it?
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I know this is extra, but I factory reset my phone after every new update. I've done this for the past 10 years of owning smartphones and i've almost never encountered any sluggishness or lag.
If your issues still persist, RMA. When a factory is churning out hundreds of thousands or millions of a product and each product itself is made of hundreds of tiny electrical components, it could just be something defective. Sorry about your luck but I hope factory resetting fixes it!
Yeah I would do a reset because I have never owned a smoother phone.
I haven't done factory reset and it's been perfectly smooth here. I used to do it once a year but I didn't need to with my 2 XL and probably won't need to with the 4 XL too.
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Besides a random restart that hasn't happened twice, this phone is ultra fast doing all the every day things. Have never experienced lag on social media, YouTube, emails, web pages or any of the things you've mentioned. Maybe a reset is in order and it the problem still persists, warranty repair cause something is definitely wrong.
Well I factory reset the phone and the stuttering is almost gone. I guess it's normal for the play store and Google feed to lag a bit as it renders images/videos?
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I get a little lag in the play store when I'm scrolling the main page (with pics and videos), but not really anywhere else. So far, this phone, like the last two pixels I've owned has been very smooth. I typically only factory reset when going from an Android beta to the stable, or if something isn't working right during the betas. I DO clean my phone and restart twice a week. I use SD Maid (rooted) to clean cache and such from system and apps. That works really well. If you're not rooted, unfortunately, most cleaning apps won't clear all app/system cache data. Anyway, something to try.
I've had the 4XL for almost a week and find some lag when unlocking the phone. The colour on the wallpaper will stay black and white for 1 second and then normal.
Also find swiping down for notifications will lag too after unlocking. Running stock, rooted with active edge mod and a font mod, ElementalX kernel.
Anyone else experiencing this? I mean it's not a big deal, maybe a reset and run everything stock to see if it continues.
peoplesindian said:
I've had the 4XL for almost a week and find some lag when unlocking the phone. The colour on the wallpaper will stay black and white for 1 second and then normal.
Also find swiping down for notifications will lag too after unlocking. Running stock, rooted with active edge mod and a font mod, ElementalX kernel.
Anyone else experiencing this? I mean it's not a big deal, maybe a reset and run everything stock to see if it continues.
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Perhaps it is something to do with the mods and kernel causing lag? Try a factory reset like I did and see if that fixes it without getting rid of the mods.
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CheatingOutlaw said:
Perhaps it is something to do with the mods and kernel causing lag? Try a factory reset like I did and see if that fixes it without getting rid of the mods.
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So I noticed it's the way I have my unlock process. I didn't have soli on when coming to pick up the phone for automatic detection. I liked being able to just check what songs playing on the AOD without it waking up while picking up the phone.
For the last few days I turned soli back on for that particular feature and no more delay or lag.