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[Q] Accidentally accepted update

Let me explain: So I got the OTA overnight, and when I woke up (to my alarm clock) I accidentally accepted the update. I had planned to root my phone and looked into keeping root through the OTA. I postponed it for the last two days, trying to figure out how to root/keep root through OTA. I've been busy with work and had to put it aside until I had a day off. To get to my question, am I screwed or will there be a way to root this phone after the update? This is my first Motorola phone, so pardon me if this is a dumb question. Thanks for any and all comments.
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pborner said:
Let me explain: So I got the OTA overnight, and when I woke up (to my alarm clock) I accidentally accepted the update. I had planned to root my phone and looked into keeping root through the OTA. I postponed it for the last two days, trying to figure out how to root/keep root through OTA. I've been busy with work and had to put it aside until I had a day off. To get to my question, am I screwed or will there be a way to root this phone after the update? This is my first Motorola phone, so pardon me if this is a dumb question. Thanks for any and all comments.
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screwed for the time being. jcase already verified there's other ways to root the update but won't release them yet. in due time I'm sure someone will release something. I'm patiently waiting too.. bought a used moto x with the update already applied. sucks.

If its still within the return time, shoot compressed air in the ear piece and speakers. It'll screw it up, take it in and get a replacement. Then don't screw up the next time around.

gokart2 said:
If its still within the return time, shoot compressed air in the ear piece and speakers. It'll screw it up, take it in and get a replacement. Then don't screw up the next time around.
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Um... As much as I'm in favor of screwing Verizon (and all other multi-national corporations), why not just search the threads for how to use RSDLite to reflash the original stock firmware, then don't accept the OTA until you've waded through the process for keeping root? Or, you can destroy a perfectly good piece of technology for no reason.

hazenberger said:
Um... As much as I'm in favor of screwing Verizon (and all other multi-national corporations), why not just search the threads for how to use RSDLite to reflash the original stock firmware, then don't accept the OTA until you've waded through the process for keeping root? Or, you can destroy a perfectly good piece of technology for no reason.
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You cannot downgrade firmware.

mandrsn1 said:
You cannot downgrade firmware.
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I'm pretty sure you can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515

hazenberger said:
I'm pretty sure you can:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515
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Nope. When you bootloader updates as part of the camera update, it prevents firmware downgrades. That link is just for restoring to stock if you haven't updated.

mandrsn1 said:
Nope. When you bootloader updates as part of the camera update, it prevents firmware downgrades. That link is just for restoring to stock if you haven't updated.
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Sorry. You're right.
So go ahead and screw Verizon using the air trick. Or wait until someone finds a new root exploit for this firmware.

hazenberger said:
Sorry. You're right.
So go ahead and screw Verizon using the air trick. Or wait until someone finds a new root exploit for this firmware.
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There are other known, but unreleased, root exploits. They aren't going to be released until another major firmware upgrade (e.g., 4.4).

Thanks for the heads up guys. Not really in favor of the air method. There's nothing wrong with this phone unrooted, actually the first phone I can say that about. Just wanna tweak some things, preferably a CM MOD. Will wait for a new method.
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pborner said:
Thanks for the heads up guys. Not really in favor of the air method. There's nothing wrong with this phone unrooted, actually the first phone I can say that about. Just wanna tweak some things, preferably a CM MOD. Will wait for a new method.
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if you are on verizon and you go to a verizon store, they are typically pretty nice there. Basically, you could walk in say that you accidentally took the OTA and you wanted to root so can give you me a new one. They will probably say yes. Or you can just say your battery drain is really bad and you have spent hours trying to fix it but people on forums said you needed to return it. The guy at my store doesn't even ask or look at my phone anymore if i bring it in...

mandrsn1 said:
There are other known, but unreleased, root exploits. They aren't going to be released until another major firmware upgrade (e.g., 4.4).
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This is good to hear... Do you happen to know if there's been any solid progress made on a bootloader unlock for Verizon? I wish I knew the first thing about Android programming so I could help out in this effort. I love my Moto X as is, but would love to see permanent root methods so we could have access to custom kernels (and so I can try to get rid of the damn NLP wakelocks).

[Q] A few questions about the Moto X

Just curious if anyone here on AIO Wirelss have conditional call forwarding setup on their AIOP Wireless device. I am switching from Sprint, to come to AIO, and do not want to use the AIO voicemail app
Can someone post their settings if they do know how to set it up, I have been a GVoicemail user for years and don't want to give that up
Also can the AIO wireless VM app be disabled or removed, if I have a none branded Moto X device, I'm not going to root this device, please advise thanks.

Damn, I can't believe not one person with a Moto X is using Google Voicemail ??

You just set voicemail up in the settings of the phone app ad well as in the Google voice app and online in Google voice.
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spencer88 said:
You just set voicemail up in the settings of the phone app ad well as in the Google voice app and online in Google voice.
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Just to be sure, go to Settings/Calls/Call Forward, and over write the AIO number VM, to my GV number ?? That will only forward calls to GV voicemail, and not all calls to go through GV ??

I finally got the phone, and just noticed it does not have an LED light when charging, looks like that option can only be attained if rooted ??

I assume there is no way to adjust the resolution of a picture taken, you figure that would be something basic with a camera, what was Google thinking ?? who wants to always take a 10 MP picture, to big to email when need to email a bunch of pictures.

DonB. said:
I finally got the phone, and just noticed it does not have an LED light when charging, looks like that option can only be attained if rooted ??
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Theres an app kicking around to give you the charging light, but yeah....needs root.
DonB. said:
I assume there is no way to adjust the resolution of a picture taken, you figure that would be something basic with a camera, what was Google thinking ?? who wants to always take a 10 MP picture, to big to email when need to email a bunch of pictures.
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Lots of great camera apps on the playstore. I use "a better camera". And I've used camera fv-5 and pro camera. All good apps.
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....

OK, another quick question, just received the notification for the 4.4.2 update, should I take it, or should I wait. Are there any issues, if I take this update will I be able to root if I decide to do so down the rood ?? Any feedback, I did some reading and seem to be getting mixed reviews. I will be on AIO wireless at the end of the month and from what I read I will need this update for proper MMS receiving.

DonB. said:
OK, another quick question, just received the notification for the 4.4.2 update, should I take it, or should I wait. Are there any issues, if I take this update will I be able to root if I decide to do so down the rood ?? Any feedback, I did some reading and seem to be getting mixed reviews. I will be on AIO wireless at the end of the month and from what I read I will need this update for proper MMS receiving.
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If you purchased it through Sprint I believe you can get your bootloader unlock code for free anytime from the Moto website. It will void the warranty though. So root is available anytime.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/app-moto-x-led-control-tasker-t2602689 <- That is the link for getting the Led to function.

GandalfTehGray said:
If you purchased it through Sprint I believe you can get your bootloader unlock code for free anytime from the Moto website. It will void the warranty though. So root is available anytime.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/themes-apps/app-moto-x-led-control-tasker-t2602689 <- That is the link for getting the Led to function.
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No, it is not a Sprint device, I am on Sprint right now with my current Note II, I purchased the Moto X New AT&T branded and unlocked, so just want to make sure before I update it, I have not activated the device, will do so at end of month with AIO.

DonB. said:
No, it is not a Sprint device, I am on Sprint right now with my current Note II, I purchased the Moto X New AT&T branded and unlocked, so just want to make sure before I update it, I have not activated the device, will do so at end of month with AIO.
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When you say unlocked you mean the Dev edition? Or carrier/sim unlocked?
If it is not the dev edition I would not update to 4.4.2 if you want root at any point in the future. You need to go through a method from 4.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/4-4-root-slapmymoto-1-0-motowpnomo-t2538896

GandalfTehGray said:
When you say unlocked you mean the Dev edition? Or carrier/sim unlocked?
If it is not the dev edition I would not update to 4.4.2 if you want root at any point in the future. You need to go through a method from 4.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/4-4-root-slapmymoto-1-0-motowpnomo-t2538896
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Not Dev edition, Carrier Sin Unlocked. OK, I will wait until I activate my device to AIO and see if I get the MMS, if not then I will either root or take the update, but I am on 4.4 right now, so does that make a difference, or am I too late on rooting on 4.4, if I am too late them I might as well update ??

DonB. said:
Not Dev edition, Carrier Sin Unlocked. OK, I will wait until I activate my device to AIO and see if I get the MMS, if not then I will either root or take the update, but I am on 4.4 right now, so does that make a difference, or am I too late on rooting on 4.4, if I am too late them I might as well update ??
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4.4 is fine. You can still downgrade to 4.2 for the root method, after that though it is not available.

GandalfTehGray said:
4.4 is fine. You can still downgrade to 4.2 for the root method, after that though it is not available.
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Got it thanks, I was just reading that, K I will decide, for now no need to update and i will see what I will do, not sure I need to root this, but will wait anyways and see what happens with AIO and MMS, thanks for all the info, cheers :good:

GandalfTehGray said:
4.4 is fine. You can still downgrade to 4.2 for the root method, after that though it is not available.
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Well I guess not available for now, but might be available down the road,
Still on the fence for updating though, I still have not taken the update, and still not sure I will need to root my device, I have always been rooted on most of my devices for the past years, but I really am not sure if I still need to be rooted, since I really don't tether, and using root apps are just for that, for the purpose of being rooted, LOL anyways, I am still on the fence.

DonB. said:
Well I guess not available for now, but might be available down the road,
Still on the fence for updating though, I still have not taken the update, and still not sure I will need to root my device, I have always been rooted on most of my devices for the past years, but I really am not sure if I still need to be rooted, since I really don't tether, and using root apps are just for that, for the purpose of being rooted, LOL anyways, I am still on the fence.
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I keep tether for emergencies mostly and Exposed.

A few more questions.
1) is it possible to sideload the Samsung Keyboard ?? without being rooted, is there such a thing or Keyboard.
2) Has anyone on AIO wireless been able to get tethering to work ?? without ROOT

DonB. said:
A few more questions.
1) is it possible to sideload the Samsung Keyboard ?? without being rooted, is there such a thing or Keyboard.
2) Has anyone on AIO wireless been able to get tethering to work ?? without ROOT
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You may install any kb you want from internal storage. Try it. I love smart keyboard pro.

aviwdoowks said:
You may install any kb you want from internal storage. Try it. I love smart keyboard pro.
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That I already know, but I really love the Samsung Keyboard.

Another thing I get being on AIO wireless is every now and then I get echo feedback often when my buddy calls me from his Sprint device, and I only have the echo. Any clue what is causing this and how to resolve other then hanging up and calling back. ?
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What's needed to work on the Bootloader

What are we needing in order to figure out how to unlock or bypass the AT&T Bootloader?
I downloaded the stock files and have the aboot.mbn and the sbl1/sdi.mdn files. I have never worked on bootloader files before, but have some experience modding kernel and ROM level code.
This may be ignorant on my part - but since we have the files, couldn't we open and manipulate the code that is currently restricting 3rd party recoveries, kernels and ROMS?
What is needed? And/or, could we not utilize the modified bootloaders from another device with similar architecture? Perhaps like the Note 3 or even the S4; not to mention the T-Mobile S5? Since the T-Mobile and AT&T versions of all Samsung phones are almost identical, I would assume that would be the easist route - at least to help determine the differences that are restricting our device.....
Let me know if anyone needs these files or has info on what to look for within them.... I'm happy to mod anything on my end.
Thanks !

Because it is locked we can't just flash over it with another one due to signatures and miss match.
Need to research into the os and associated code to find an exploit that can be used like safestrap.
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TheArtiszan said:
Because it is locked we can't just flash over it with another one due to signatures and miss match.
Need to research into the os and associated code to find an exploit that can be used like safestrap.
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Or if someone that works at AT&T or Samsung would be nice enough to leak a signing key or a signed unlocked bootloader.

Key from Tmobile S5
T-mobile S5 is rooted. Can we find the signing key used for Tmobile phones? Is there is a remote chance keys are same?
Will recoveries on Tmobile and ATT phone be same?

yoonus said:
T-mobile S5 is rooted. Can we find the signing key used for Tmobile phones? Is there is a remote chance keys are same?
Will recoveries on Tmobile and ATT phone be same?
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Thats a good question. I wonder if we know how many keys the S5 will accept for signed updates? I.e. Is there a Samsung and a AT&T key for all S5's or is it per model or is it derived somehow from the IEMI.

Why would the developers even waste their time on the AT&T S5? They know the story behind it. Same ol' thing. I would rather have them actually develop roms on the T-Mobile S5, which we all can use btw, instead of wasting time on trying to unlock the bootloader. If it could be hacked, it would have, LONG AGO!

yoonus said:
T-mobile S5 is rooted. Can we find the signing key used for Tmobile phones? Is there is a remote chance keys are same?
Will recoveries on Tmobile and ATT phone be same?
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How would the key used for the G900T be helpful? Its not like the key is on some partition somewhere

MattMJB0188 said:
Why would the developers even waste their time on the AT&T S5? They know the story behind it. Same ol' thing. I would rather have them actually develop roms on the T-Mobile S5, which we all can use btw, instead of wasting time on trying to unlock the bootloader. If it could be hacked, it would have, LONG AGO!
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Well to be fair, if you took the best developers and hardware/software hackers in the world and put them in a room with an amazing salary.. it would be hacked..
So lets not say that its impossible. It is just extremely difficult and beyond the scope of the few developers (if any) that are still around trying to crack into it. The problem is that there aren't that many people that just want to sit around trying to figure out a way to make it work, they would rather move to different phones and carriers instead, because its just overall easier.

MattMJB0188 said:
Why would the developers even waste their time on the AT&T S5? They know the story behind it. Same ol' thing. I would rather have them actually develop roms on the T-Mobile S5, which we all can use btw, instead of wasting time on trying to unlock the bootloader. If it could be hacked, it would have, LONG AGO!
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Yep, hate to burst anyone's bubble who has a G900A, but it's not going to happen... EVER. Options are to hold out for a developer edition phone from Samsung or get a T-mobile version... which is exactly the same thing minus the restrictions. Or if you are pissed at AT&T, just find another carrier. Maybe if there was enough churn from this, they would stop doing it.

enigma99a said:
Yep, hate to burst anyone's bubble who has a G900A, but it's not going to happen... EVER. Options are to hold out for a developer edition phone from Samsung or get a T-mobile version... which is exactly the same thing minus the restrictions. Or if you are pissed at AT&T, just find another carrier. Maybe if there was enough churn from this, they would stop doing it.
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The s5 will get root same as the s4 did. People just need to be patient. There is definitely a dev that is working to unlock this thing. Everyone said the same thing about the s4 and now look

enigma99a said:
Yep, hate to burst anyone's bubble who has a G900A, but it's not going to happen... EVER. Options are to hold out for a developer edition phone from Samsung or get a T-mobile version... which is exactly the same thing minus the restrictions. Or if you are pissed at AT&T, just find another carrier. Maybe if there was enough churn from this, they would stop doing it.
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People like you make me laugh. Not even 2 weeks after release and you're already declaring the device will NEVER get root. Lol.

karmuh said:
People like you make me laugh. Not even 2 weeks after release and you're already declaring the device will NEVER get root. Lol.
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Yea I don't think its fair to say it "will never" or "cannot be" done.

PunchLick said:
Yea I don't think its fair to say it "will never" or "cannot be" done.
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Exactly. It can be done and it will be done. Anyone thinking otherwise is pretty naive. But then again, it's expected from those who don't even have the AT&T model, but continue to post in the AT&T section.

nbrent1007 said:
The s5 will get root same as the s4 did. People just need to be patient. There is definitely a dev that is working to unlock this thing. Everyone said the same thing about the s4 and now look
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This thread is about the boot loader, not getting root.
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Yea I don't think its fair to say it "will never" or "cannot be" done.
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No. Again, there is a difference from root and unlocking the bootloader. I was referring to the bootloader as that's what this thread is discussing. I never said it was impossible, it is quite possible just takes a lot of hard work. My prediction is that it will never be fully unlocked.

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No. Again, there is a difference from root and unlocking the bootloader. I was referring to the bootloader as that's what this thread is discussing. I never said it was impossible, it is quite possible just takes a lot of hard work. My prediction is that it will never be fully unlocked.
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I don't want to even have to worry about if it will or not, because I don't know who or how many are working on an exploit..
That's why I am switching to the One M8, but either way if/when something does change I may switch back.. I just would rather have fun now!

PunchLick said:
I don't want to even have to worry about if it will or not, because I don't know who or how many are working on an exploit..
That's why I am switching to the One M8, but either way if/when something does change I may switch back.. I just would rather have fun now!
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You can always put in a bounty in the Verizon thread. So devs like myself who have experience cracking and exploiting might show some interest

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You can always put in a bounty in the Verizon thread. So devs like myself who have experience cracking and exploiting might show some interest
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Id rather just not worry about it.
I do love Samsung, but HTC is the ethical choice.
Another one might be moving to TMO, but we shall seeee.......

PunchLick said:
Id rather just not worry about it.
I do love Samsung, but HTC is the ethical choice.
Another one might be moving to TMO, but we shall seeee.......
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+1. Loved Sammy but went to M8.
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enigma99a said:
You can always put in a bounty in the Verizon thread. So devs like myself who have experience cracking and exploiting might show some interest
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that bounty is up there pretty high already just sayin

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that bounty is up there pretty high already just sayin
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I think the problem is SELinux is an extremely tough nut to crack(and I'm guessing you could easily get a six figure payday for an unknown SELinux/PaX kernel exploit in the black market at this point). Pretty much every linux kernel vulnerability exploit code I've seen fails on all of my boxes with SELinux, PAX and hardened GCC(one of these protection mechanisms always ends up killing the exploit before it can deliver its payload). Do we know exactly what SELinux and PAX(if any) features were enabled in the .config that Samsung used to compile the kernel (and if a hardened toolchain was used for the userland)? At least from what I've seen a properly configured SELinux box with Pax and hardened GCC is one of the toughest boxes to crack. I guess what we can hope for is that someone at Samsung did something stupid otherwise its quite possible we could be waiting for awhile(unless a key or signed unlocked bootloader leaks).
(edit: This applies to getting root through a kernel exploit.(Although with SELinux that isn't enough you need to not only be UID0 root but you also have to switch the role to sysadm_r. The bootloader I'm not 100 percent sure on the secure boot process but my understanding from reading other dev's threads is that this will be even harder than getting a root escalation in the SELinux kernel). Although if we could crack the bl we could just inject root easily.

Is the reason people can't find a stable root for US LG G4's cause of an unknown boot

Just browsing on signal strength app and saw that a boot loader was unknown and wondered if it was keeping blocking root stability?
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UktenaWarrior28 said:
Just browsing on signal strength app and saw that a boot loader was unknown and wondered if it was keeping blocking root stability?
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It probably shows that because it is a brand new phone and the app doesn't have the bootloader in it's database. just a guess
root has already been achieved in multiple ways, on all carrier devices. We are just waiting on the devs to release now.

Thank you for the reply. I was kinda curious about why mine shower no boot loader.
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Has anyone heard any news? I keep looking and have found nothing new.

DattKiddKFC said:
Has anyone heard any news? I keep looking and have found nothing new.
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I don't understand why they don't release the root method with an "at your own risk" disclaimer. A good number of us root users cut our teeth on the original HTC Dream and understand the involved risks.
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blackknightavalon said:
I don't understand why they don't release the root method with an "at your own risk" disclaimer. A good number of us root users cut our teeth on the original HTC Dream and understand the involved risks.
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I'm pretty sure the devs want to release the dummy-friendly version, like myself, who knows nothing about root but would like to try it.

xfearlz said:
I'm pretty sure the devs want to release the dummy-friendly version, like myself, who knows nothing about root but would like to try it.
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I'll take the step-by-step version where you have to read the instructions at least twice before going through with it. It'll remind me of the old days.
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Tomyk89 said:
It probably shows that because it is a brand new phone and the app doesn't have the bootloader in it's database. just a guess
root has already been achieved in multiple ways, on all carrier devices. We are just waiting on the devs to release now.
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From the research I've done, I've yet to see any proof that devs have achieved root on all carriers. Where did you find this information?

I have yet to see it done on a T-Mobile, Verizon and Sprint variation. I have seen it done on a AT&T phone. I am patient enough for the root
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From the research I've done, I've yet to see any proof that devs have achieved root on all carriers. Where did you find this information?
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I agree. I'd love to see someone that has achieved root comment.

blackknightavalon said:
I don't understand why they don't release the root method with an "at your own risk" disclaimer. A good number of us root users cut our teeth on the original HTC Dream and understand the involved risks.
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They do not have it.
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ambervals6 said:
They do not have it.
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Agreed. If root were available, even if the devs didn't feel it was ready for prime-time, we'd know about it. The fact that nobody has actually seen a rooted 811, pretty much proves that root has not been achieved.

There is a root method that does work. Its not prime ready. But there are articles ststimg root was achieved on an U.S. variant G4. As I stated before the dev bricked the first phone from the unstable root. After his second attempt he was sucessful. So how can justify there is no root for G4 stable or unstable?
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UktenaWarrior28 said:
There is a root method that does work. Its not prime ready. But there are articles ststimg root was achieved on an U.S. variant G4. As I stated before the dev bricked the first phone from the unstable root. After his second attempt he was sucessful. So how can justify there is no root for G4 stable or unstable?
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Not sure if this was directed at me or not, however.... There is clearly root for a "U.S. variant G4". There is clearly no root for the H811/T-Mobile variant. Nobody has claimed to see it either (that I am aware of).

ShermCraig said:
Not sure if this was directed at me or not, however.... There is clearly root for a "U.S. variant G4". There is clearly no root for the H811/T-Mobile variant. Nobody has claimed to see it either (that I am aware of).
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just because you haven't experienced it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Look at the female orgasm for example. Just believe.

The only thing I can see why one carrier may take longer is only the fact that carrier has just added something in a file that made it harder to exploit. But it has never really been that way.
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UktenaWarrior28 said:
There is a root method that does work. Its not prime ready. But there are articles ststimg root was achieved on an U.S. variant G4. As I stated before the dev bricked the first phone from the unstable root. After his second attempt he was sucessful. So how can justify there is no root for G4 stable or unstable?
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As I've said, devs should release it with an "at your own risk" disclaimer.
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blackknightavalon said:
As I've said, devs should release it with an "at your own risk" disclaimer.
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I was agreeing with you and telling the others that there is one
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Root achieved. Go get it. Already rooted and install TWRP on mines. http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/...-tmo-vzw-intl-variants-soon-root-lg-t3164765/

Will anything past OE2 ever get Root? (OG5,OG7,etc..)

Anyone know of any active developement regarding the 925V variant? Way too nice not to have root.

There is zero development.

Zero KNOWN progress. Who knows for sure though. King root might work for us one day or it might not.

There wasn't much development on my tmboile s5 either. What phones do have good development these days?

I guess mostly just Nexus devices.
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jjlean said:
There wasn't much development on my tmboile s5 either. What phones do have good development these days?
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I've stuck with my ATT Note3 on TMO, and TMO Note4. My son has a Sprint S6 Edge on TMO and it has surprisingly quite a bit of development. If I knew anything regarding locked vs. unlocked BL's I'd have a go with this 925V. Just really surprised at the lack of development for this device. Sucks!

Unfortunately, it seems that we've been left in the dark. Surely one of the many devs would have a thread going with some sort of progress update if any were working on it.

@spadz93 That's kinda what I'm thinking. Too bad. I use way too many root functions to even consider keeping my 925V. Really nice hardware either way. I'll probably look for a TMO variant.

Verizon sucks anyway. Worst service I've ever had. I liked T-Mobile way better. I have constant dropped calls, missed texts etc with Verizon.

I would pay good money to have some development for this device... without development, its useless... anyone interested? pm me =]

smithilberry said:
I would pay good money to have some development for this device... without development, its useless... anyone interested? pm me =]
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I wouldn't go so far as to call it useless... It's still a solid phone with decent hardware. Just because you can't root it and install custom ROMs doesn't make it useless. I'm more interested in a phone that works consistently everyday than I am the ability to push the hardware to the point of random reboots and overheating. Once I gave up root for 5.1 I've had next to zero issues with the phone and I like it much more.
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32BitWhore said:
I wouldn't go so far as to call it useless... It's still a solid phone with decent hardware. Just because you can't root it and install custom ROMs doesn't make it useless. I'm more interested in a phone that works consistently everyday than I am the ability to push the hardware to the point of random reboots and overheating. Once I gave up root for 5.1 I've had next to zero issues with the phone and I like it much more.
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Yea, my statement is a little exaggerated but no xposed is huge for me personally. I like to play with my phone and customize it. Without root and xposed, I can't do that like I could with my s4 so it bothers me

What upsets me is the fact that devs give up trying to root a phone if a solution doesn't come within a month or two, if the phone is the only variant that still doesn't have a root and it will take more effort than a few tweaks to do it. I've seen it over and over again with so many phones. If I knew how to even begin to look for a root on the phone and I had the money to buy phones that I could burn in the process, then I'd totally work at it.

what I dont understand is theres ppl with the Note 4 that are able to root 5.1.1 using King Root and no one has tried it on any firmware beyond OE2 for us yet..
I know one person said it worked for him on OF1 but need more to confirm before I update and update all my ROMs.

elliwigy said:
what I dont understand is theres ppl with the Note 4 that are able to root 5.1.1 using King Root and no one has tried it on any firmware beyond OE2 for us yet..
I know one person said it worked for him on OF1 but need more to confirm before I update and update all my ROMs.
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Kingroot does not work... :/ I'm on OK7, FYI.

dSlice said:
Kingroot does not work... :/ I'm on OK7, FYI.
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well theres that lol.. anyone on firmware between OF1 and OG5?

elliwigy said:
well theres that lol.. anyone on firmware between OF1 and OG5?
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Right!? It's a damn shame! This phone had so much potential! Maybe the S7... Lol

dSlice said:
Right!? It's a damn shame! This phone had so much potential! Maybe the S7... Lol
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it has been great for me..had since day 1 and been rooted ever since..
only thing missing at this point is twrp/aosp roms/xposed

elliwigy said:
it has been great for me..had since day 1 and been rooted ever since..
only thing missing at this point is twrp/aosp roms/xposed
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I enjoy it.... I also had it since day one. I unrooted mine and took the updates. Lol I need AOSP and we were never given the time to achieve it.

dSlice said:
I enjoy it.... I also had it since day one. I unrooted mine and took the updates. Lol I need AOSP and we were never given the time to achieve it.
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agreed.. i might update when marshmallow comes but i also might buy a nexus once my tax return comes to satisfy my rooting needs..
although my aftv2 has been satisfying that lol