Hi, but any one know a detailed Teclast X98 Air 3G Windows 8.1 & Android 4.4 Tablet Review, for i am extremely to buy this new tablet, but i need a better knowledge first.
Annie Y said:
Hi, but any one know a detailed Teclast X98 Air 3G Windows 8.1 & Android 4.4 Tablet Review, for i am extremely to buy this new tablet, but i need a better knowledge first.
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Hello!
I guess you already checked this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...8-air-3g-tablet-9-7-2048x1536-t2913035/page43
There you can see thousands of opinions, and better, how to install real dual boot meaning Android and Windows of your choice when you switch on the tablet. I have installed dual boot and it is awesome (although still a lot of doubts).
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Hi, I was wondering if there's anyway to install windows without a USB hub?
[REVIEW] Teclast X98 Air 3G dual boot
Here you are my personal review after using
Almost four years have already run since I bought my first tablet up to the date, I've been using it quite a lot, upgrading to the different Android versions and of course trying all possible custom ROMs that I found interesting.
But after this years, not only the OS, also the specs have changed in a interesting way, of course making all the devices much more powerfull. And my old Acer Iconia A500 was asking me for a replacement more capable of following nowadays rythm.
So I started looking, comparing,... and of course talking. We all know that iPads and Samsung tablets are a safe option, but you are really paying for them, sometimes more than enough.
And by the other hand, I have the chance of knowing from first hand sellers (like Etotalk with whom I talk often via Skype) that can share their experience with me.
In the past years I have tried (quite) a few different smartphones and other gadgets, in a way that I have realized that, Chinese doesn't mean bad quality, it just mean “double check before buying”. So that I have found some awful products not working at all, and I have found really good quality devices. For some of which I have already done reviews sharing my good impressions (and the points of improvement!).
Having said that, I was recommended to take the Teclast X98 Air 3G, which brings something that I found really really attractive: dual boot.
I already know (tablets, tv box and smartphones) how Android does on the mobile market but, Windows?
I have used quite a lot Windows Phone 8 on Lumia smartphones, I saw real improvements with the first updates, and they are very nice to use mobiles BUT with a lot of limitations on tasks that I can do on daily basis with iPhone or Android. It's true that the ecosystem of applications is growing but sometimes not fast enough or (mainly) not with the quality you are expecting. With huge differences between Microsoft or Nokia applications or 3rd party apps. Still a lot of work to do, hopefully solved (at least partially) with the arrival of Windows 10.
Having said that... Yes! I took it that tablet with a lot of expectations and first one met was that it was at home only 3 days after ordering it
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Packaging and design
Very nicely packaged, with a “potato-plastic” bag covering the tablet, then in a second layer we find, a plastic protector for the screen, , the USB cable, an OTG USB cable, warranty card, anti-radiations sticker (yes first time I see it) and the charger (US plug) which is of 2.5A!! simply amazing, but we need to have into consideration the size of this battery (I’ll come back later).
I must mention here that everything is on Chinese. I don’t consider it a real issue because being honest, normally nobody reads the papers, we all know that once any device arrives first thing we do is booting it. And probably charge it.
I leave you this video I recorded for the unboxing (for the moment in Spanish I’ll translate it soon).
Maybe after this video, there is not much to say about the design, but I'm doing a review so... let's start with the front clean and simple view. Nothing but the big screen occupying almost the full surface and the tiny 2Mpx on the top. As said, very clean design (reminds me an iPad) but sincerely many times when using I'm missing some button.
On the left side we have both, the power/lock button and the volume up/down one, on the same just at the bottom, the slots for microSD card (up to 64GB) and the SIM card.
Moving to the bottom side of the tablet, we will find the plugs for micro USB cable, jack 3.5 and micro HDMI. Which leaves us the right and the top sides completely free of buttons or slots.
Turning the tablet, on the rear part, we have the main 5Mpx camera on the top and two speakers on the bottom. On the middle just “Intel inside” logo. Below that “X98” mark and again a lot of Chinese stuff.
Hardware and specifications
As I said on the beginning, the hardware has evolved quite a lot on the last years. I would point that one of the main surprises of this device is that it brings an Intel Atom processor (not very common on mobile devices), but take a look to the rest, it’s not bad at all:
Brand / Model Teclast X98 Air 3G(Dual OS)
OS Dual boot: Android 4.4.4 Kitkat / Windows 8.1
CPU Intel Atom Z3736F Quad Core 2.16GHz
GPU Intel HD Graphic
RAM 2GB
ROM 64GB
Extend card MAX supports 64GB Class 10 Micro SD Memory Card (TF-Card)
Screen 9.7 inches QXGA with a resolution of 2048x1536; IPS-LCD, Multi-Touch Capacitive technology; 16 Million Colors
Languages Czech, Dansk, German, English, Spanish, Russian, French, Italian, Dutch, Norwegian, Polski, Greek, Portuguese, Svenska, Turkey, Korean, Japanese, Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese
Color Front White Back Silver
Dimensions 240 x 169 x 7.4 mm
Net Weight 498g with battery
Camera Front Camera 2.0 mega pixel / Rear Camera 5.0 mega pixel / Auto Focus
Connectivity Built-in Wifi IEEE 802.11b/g/n 11Mbps to 54Mbps / Built-in 3G WCDMA Module / Built-in HDMI Out Port / Phone Calls / OTG
Sensors GPS, Bluetooth 4.0, Gravity Sensor
Battery Built-in Lithium Battery: 8500mAh
Screen
The Teclast X98 Air 3G is equipped with a 9.7 inches IPS screen with a very good resolution of 2048x1536.
Once we remove the sticker that comes with the tablet covering the screen, we quickly realize about the quality of this screen, the image and colors are greatly appreciated, and the angles of vision are very wide, no need to be just in front of.
The bright levels are very good, allowing to select very low bright or very high bright, however I'm missing here the option of automatic bright. Normally it comes with every smartphone, and even my old tablet has it. Here I have to select manually the level I want and it doesn't adapt to new conditions, so a point to improve here.
This tablet includes the Intel HD Graphics chipset, what I would say makes more complicated to compare with other devices where we know more about their GPU capabilities (i.e. the common Mali GPUs).
Up to now I have had no issues playing games or with HD videos, so I would say that this chipset makes its job.
Inside the settings, we see a new line for enabling Intel video improvements, but there no further description, so I just enabled it hoping to get the most of my tablet. As I told before the quality of image and watching videos (online/offline) is very good at every moment.
Software and multimedia
This is probably one of the main strengths of the Teclast X98 Air 3G. There are not many tablets allowing dual boot in such an easy way. As said a few times already, it comes with an Intel CPU, which means it can run Windows (not only Android as most of tablets) and... leave open the door to Linux, since... it's an Intel CPU!
I have read many questions about this model and how to use the dual boot function. In my case it's very easy (maybe as part of the customization by Etotalk) since every time I boot it, it asks me which system I want to use.
By default it remembers the last one I used and will boot it after 10 seconds, but I repeat, I don't need to change anything or enable whatever to access that dual boot screen every time.
Once again, this menu is in Chinese, so... I luckily there is only one button on that screen and it's for “OK”, they should have translated some more things to English at least.
Going into both OS:
Android works very well, smoothly as on any new device and (good point) with a few applications already pre-installed (mainly thinking on GooglePlay which give us access to all the market).
I sincerely don't like the default launcher, not allowing me to use widgets or having on the desktops only the apps I want and leaving all the rest for the menu. So one of first things I did was installing another launcher. I tried some free ones from Play, all work well so I just left the one I liked more by its design.
I have tried many applications and some games and no one single error or incompatibility message. Kodi, WPS, Maps, Asphalt 8, MX Player, VLC,...
Talking about connectivity, no surprises here. The WiFi connects very fast and I didn't suffer any unexpected disconnection. It's equipped with Bluetooth 4.0, which recognises, pairs and transmit fast enough, I tried with Digicare DO headphones and the quality of sound was excellent.
I know everybody will be expecting now the comments about the 3G WCDMA that brings the attention to this concrete model. And I must confess... also to myself. So I inserted the SIM (normal size) on the slot that can be found on the side and it didn't do anything... my mistake Plane Mode enabled
Now yes. SIM card detected, searching for networks... different ones available. I left itself do the choice and suddenly I received the provider's SMS with the config and tariffs information. Good job Teclast!
I couldn't resist then, I call to that number from my mobile... and I could answer the call! It's true with almost 10” is not a comfortable gadget to talk, but sincerely. I appreciate the option, we can always use a BT hands-free, and it allows us to send SMS, use whatsapp on a tablet, etc. very useful!
Finally the OTG function using the included cable was better than I though, very fast transference of files.
Time to shift to Windows. Once started I see more chinese menus and words that I found on Android's first boot. After going to the control panel and changing language and regional settings almost everything is now on English (because I choose that language) although there still some (isolated) words on Chinese.
After some days using, I've found that some of the applications were installed from the Chinese Store, so by removing them and installing again they are in the correct language
It's an improvement, but In settings for example the words “bluetooth” and “3G network” still appear in mandarin.
In the past years I have been using mainly Linux on the laptop and iOS or Android on mobile devices (except for that period using WindowsPhone). So I was completely new to Windows 8.1
It's maybe a little early to say it but, this tablet has made me love Windows 8.1. I feel I have a full computer on my hands, being able to execute programs, not only mobile applications. And Office 365 is included for one year!! with 1TB of OneDrive storage. This alone already made more than one third of the cost of this tablet.
I have told a few times lately: I like the route Microsoft is taking in the last times but... once more I'm delighted on how well their services work altogether.
Where's then the “but”? Of course there is. Again, need to improve the ecosystem of mobile applications, however it's not a problem on this device since you can run real programs planned for the desktop version.
I'm not still an expert on this Windows. I must confess that I'm still booting Android for many things, but each time I use this Windows I enjoy simply exploring new options or features of the system, playing with apps I found and trying different stuff...
For the connectivity, same impression, all works more than properly, fast WiFi, good BT, 3G networks at good speed too. No complains at all. Like in Android, the OTG function works very fast.
Camera
I'll start saying that on every (or almost every tablet) I've tried/used the cameras are quite deceiving (probably except for the iPads) despite the number of megapixels announced.
What happens here? Exactly the same, both cameras offer I would say a poor quality when taking pictures, a little bit better for videos. And we don't flash for the main one.
Is that all? For sure not! I didn't know where to handle this subject, so at the end I left for this section. Skype works amazing! Connects fast, great video quality, fluid in both ways and the sound higher than in many smartphones or tablets.
I was surprised with the quality of the video-conference, after trying the camera app... but I don't know, maybe is the way Skype handles the image, the result was very very good.
Maybe the point is not as much recording as playing or editing video, since both in Windows and in Android, we have a full set of apps for editing our videos. Some of them are included, the rest can be downloaded for free from each Store.
Autonomy and battery
Maybe you passed the specifications table from the beginning quite fast but... did you realize this Teclast X98 Air 3G has a 8500 mAh battery? Yes, it's huge!
It means that it will allow us to use it for longer and, when it's time to charge it, the charger included being 2.5A helps a lot on this task, it will take around 3 hours for a full charge, so quite similar to the time a smartphone will take to charge.
Since it uses a standard micro USB for charging (thanks god!), we can use the same charger and cable than for our smartphone. BUT, normally those chargers give an output power of 1A, so the charging time can be infinite. So better use the provided one.
Conclusions
No doubts we are facing a very very good product. It's not the cheap tablet that we can buy with coupons on the supermarket or with the newspaper. It's a powerful device that can offer us a lot.
The remarkable points (already mentioned most of them): dual boot which allows us to have the freedom of Android for playing and multimedia, but also the professionalism of Windows for working with Office or executing other software; simple and clean design with an excellent Retina Display; microSD expansion and 3G slots for improving storage and connectivity capabilities; fast quad-core Intel Atom CPU and Intel GPU,... and all that standing below 500 grams.
For the points that need improvement, I have already mentioned them a few times, and I will summarize them on: automatic brightness (I don't understand why it's not available) and please, less Chinese content on the package and on the tablet menus.
The price seems very correct for me. Specially when it includes VIP shipment with a trusted company like DHL, it's an extra since I have ordered a few times already to China and if you take the standard one, you can be waiting for one month.
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Great review ordered mine a few days ago...can't wait for it to arrive...this tablet will replace my netbook and Samsung tab
via OnePlus One
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Great review!
Got mine for almost a month now, loving both android and Windows on it.
It was a little searching but it's possible to get rid of all Chinese test just by making sure (on windows) to set ALL region settings and user accounts to the language you want.
Bluetooth and 3g will also be translated that way.
Only thing that is still in Chinese is the dualboot selector, but I've seen on YouTube this can also be in English, don't know how though.
Good luck with your teclast, it is indeed a fun device!
Aaaaaaaand it's dead...
Tried flashing a new bios, no errors but upon restart: nothing...
It was fun while it lasted hahaha, waiting for the programming tool now...
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Here is a little something I wanted to share with the group though it is quite possible it will be of no interest to anyone here. Still, blabbing seems to be allowed in this section so here goes.
Today I was going through some long unopened drawers at the office and ran in to a real antique: An HP Jornada 710.
I read about these devices before, how some people still experiment with them running Linux and stuff.
Well, I decided to see what the fuss was about but of course non of its original accessories were anywhere to be found.
Fortunately I have a 'heavy duty' 1000mA universal DC adapter at home that after some struggling I managed to connect to the device. (Mind you this is a particularly hungry little toy - 12V, 2.5A)
And to my surprise it came to life almost immediately after at least 3 years of lying dormant in a draw.
What surprised me even more, was what I found on the desktop of the unit. I worked with Win CE 4.2 and 5 devices but I really didn't expect that the old "Hand Held PC" derivative would have Power Point and Mobile Access apps preinstalled in ROM. (Just for the power point we had to wait through 3.5 Windows Mobile versions 2000, 2002, 2003 / SE).
All in all I found this 6 year old device to be more impressive then many WM5 devices I've seen.
Well right now I left it to charge over night and will take it back to the office in the morning for show and tell.
I doubt I will attempt changing the ROM, but I am trying to think of a neat use for it since it seems a shame to put such a device back in the draw.
Ow well, just thought I share, any comments, thoughts etc. are welcomed.
You should read Pocket PC Expert more! They have adverts in every magazine asking to buy, and also selling these devices. I still think that they were nearly the best form factor ever made - I loved my Psion 5, and still think in many ways it's the sexiest device I've used.
Someone should really refactor these devices - slightly thinner, foldback screen to use as a tablet (like Univeral), and it would be a beautiful "on the go" business companion.
Then again, we have Athena. $1100 right?!
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Is that the one with the built in dial up modem?
OdeeanRDeathshead said:
Is that the one with the built in dial up modem?
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Not unless there suppose to be some special cable for it that plugs in to a phone socket.
The software is there, even a dedicated button on the side of the screen but nothing that would look like a modem socket on the device it self.
One crazy though: I have a 3COM PCMCIA WiFi card for my old Toshiba laptop.
If that had a driver for CE (which I am pretty sure it doesn't) maybe it could have worked on the Jornada (probably not because of power requirements or interface version) and that would make a neat terminal.
Oh well, for now the adapter seems to have fried (no external damage, but the indicator light no longer comes on and something is loose inside).
I think the unit is still OK but the battery doesn't hold charge so for now all experiments are on hold.
I still have my iPAQ H3630 (UK) which I upgraded to PPC2002. I have the Stowaway Keyboard and the PC Card Expansion Jacket and used to use a 2GB PC Card HDD in there way back when!
Last week the internal battery died :-(
I need to see if its economically viable to repair....
I'll cut to the chase and save the boring details for the next paragraph: I want an external SDIO camera connected to my Tilt so I can record videos on bike rides. I've searched high and low, and I have a few products in mind. Can anyone tell me if they know of better products?
What I need:
- An SDIO camera which will work on the Kaiser
- An SDIO (standard SD size) to MicroSD cable/adapter (if microSD SDIO cameras do not exist)
- A way to hook up both a microSD card and the camera (if possible)
- A good shell to keep my Kaiser injury free when (and if) I take a spill
- Any other suggestions are welcome.
What I've found:
On Bluetooth Cameras:
So far I've found absolutely nothing in the way of Bluetooth Camera modules (except the following college research paper and patent application by Kodak) so I might be jumping the gun with Bluetooth, but here they are:
http://www.itn.liu.se/~shago/Exjobb/BT_Webcam.pdf [college research pap]
http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/02/kodaks-bluetooth-camera-module/ [engadget on kodak patent]
On MicroSD SDIO Camearas:
I have found nothing on this subject. If there are any microSDIO cameras that you are aware of or are around PLEASE PM, e-mail, reply, call or IM me!
On SDIO camera modules I've found the following:
- HP Photosmart Mobile Camera
This is for an iPaq with Windows PocketPC 2002 or Windows Mobile 2003. It takes video, but will it work on a Kaiser, considering it's a WinMo6 device? It looks like a good option.
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/pscmisc/vac/us/en/sm/pocketpc/FA185A_specifications.html
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=534595&SiteID=1 [this link suggests that it works fine under winmo5 and is even usable via camera APIs using some discontinued Veo camera APIs]
- eNnovation (LifeView?) FlyCam SD
For this one I have similar fears that some of the prerequisites are not satisfied by the Kaiser. Specifically they list the following:
CPU : Intel Xscale
OS : Microsoft Pocket PC 2000, Pocket PC 2002 and Pocket PC 2003.
The age of the OSes listed and the CPU requirement make me shy away from this one, although the HP seems just as bad when it come to support for WinMo.
http://www.ennovationtech.com/html/flycamsd.htm#F
http://www.msdner.com/dev-archive/144/11-35-1446805.shtm [this link suggests lifeview makes it and there's winmo5 support and an sdk, but the lifeview site is down.]
- Pretec SDIO 1.3MegaPixel Camera
This little card is just another one of the ones I've found. This one says Win PPC 2002 and higher, so I'm guessing it implies WinMo5&6 support, but that's a crap shoot. This camera also features 20fps max depending on resolution while the above two sport 30fps. Not my top choice.
http://www.pretec.com/epages/Store....s/Store.Pretec/Products/OS-CAS#Specifications
http://www.jactron.co.uk/pretec/io/sdio/sd-smartcam.htm
- Veo SDIO Camera
A lot is mentioned about these cams, but they seem to be discontinued and I am unable to find a place to purchase any of these. Would these be better suited? Anyone own one?
- Spectec SDIO Camera
This camera seems to be a 640x480 only discontinued model also. There is a chance that these do not work well with WinMo5/6 at all.
http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=121109 DISCONTINUED
On SD to MicroSD adapters/converters/cables:
I couldn't find any. The closest thing I found was a post on MoDaCo linking to an SD to MiniSD solution. I also found a camerahacker.com post on detailed images which show the pins are pretty much 1-1. I would also like to thank Chainfire who told me this fact ahead of time on IRC in #xda-devs. Additionally, there seems to have been an April Fool's joke about SanDisk making an SD to MicroSD adapter on another PPC device forum. Thanks to them I nearly soiled myself. I am highly inclined to create my own adapter, but feel free to save my time if one exists or is in development.
http://www.camerahacker.com/Digital/Inside_miniSD_Adapter.shtml [CameraHacker post describing pinouts with pics]
http://www.modaco.com/content/Windo...o-purchase-or-make-an-sd-to-microsd-adapter-/ [MoDaCo post related to this same endeavor]
http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/det.php?prod_c=460 [Japanese site with an SD to MiniSD solution]
On Connecting Both SDIO Device and MicroSD/SD Memory Card
I have not found any information on any device capable of allowing this sort of chaining an SDIO card with an SD card. I did find a WiFi card and a GPS card which allow a pass-through to a microSD card. None of the cameras listed above had this capability listed, and I did not see it in any of the pictures (although I could have missed it?).
On Protective Cases
I found two suitable solutions for this, and I'm leaning toward BoxWave's Armor Case as it has a screen cover as well. They're both around $30.
http://www.boxwave.com/products/armorcase/armor-case-at_t-tilt_2906.htm [BoxWave's Armor Case]
http://www.tiltdepot.com/a/att-tilt-metal-cases/monaco-aluminum-case-_4-23--3294.htm [Monaco Aluminum Case]
So far this is what I've got, and the idea is that I would mount the camera in my helmet, connect the SDIO connector to a cable that runs to my pocket where it converts to MicroSD and plugs into my Kaiser. I would like to get this project together so I can record some videos of upcoming rides. If you know of any better suited products or shortcuts that I can take please reply!
notten:
Here is something I've been looking at to record videos on bike rides.
http://www2.oregonscientific.com/shop/product.asp?cid=0&pid=709&scid=86
The big drawback is all the reviews say the video quality is not very good..
Using your 'Kaiser' as the recorder for video I would have thought is a little impractical.
Firstly the mini-SD card is not SDIO compatible even if you could get an adapter. Secondly, you have to find some way of protecting both camera and phone. Thirdly, any wireless connected camera (BT or WiFi) will be of low quality due to transmission rates/resolution restrictions (Check out my thread on connecting a Linksys network camera with peer to peer).
I advise you to Google 'Sports video camera' as there are some good packs out there. Then you can convert the video at a later date for viewing on any device.
Not really the answer you wanted but someone else may come up with something.
The microSD slot not being SDIO is slightly disappointing. Are you sure about this? I wanted to have the phone record GPS along with video, so standalone devices wouldn't really do the trick. Thank you both for your replies. So far it's not what I wanted to hear.
Additionally I cannot find any of the cameras I listed except the HP on sale anywhere. The HP Photosmart camera can only take pictures through an SDK which makes the whole project even less viable.
Are you certain the Kaisers don't support SDIO over the microSD slot?
My bet, and this is a gut instinct, is that none of those camera's will work under WM6. Wasn't the processor and achitecture different on the PPC systems to the newer WM6 hardware? I seem to remember programs came in XScale, ARM and other versions depending on the processor your device carried so it would stand to reason that something designed for a XScale processor wouldn't be to happy with an ARM processor. Course I could be way off base here!
The fact that so many phones, PDA's etc these days come with built in WiFi, Camera's, Bluetooth etc would make the market for add-on devices such as this rather small and its unlikely people would waste their R&D time building something for a rather small market place.
How about something like these?
www.helmetcamera.com
www.helmet-cameras.com
OK, now I know I am pushing the envelope here but Coreplayer have said that they have solved the Qualcomm driver issue for streamed video and that the upcoming version (1.2) of Coreplayer works perfect with the 'Kaiser'.
I would bet that if you can find a 'Rugged' housing for any Linksys camera with reasonable resolution, you can have a good peer-to-peer link in your pocket!!!
Hey! wishful thinking for the New Year???
OH, one thing you have to remember on ANY camera setup! How do you record.....
Honestly, I hope you are correct. I will definitely try the Linksys camera if Coreplayer delivers the updated punch to the video streaming. When it does I will come bug you to test the Linksys camera. With good video it's likely to be my solution. Also, I have a very good buddy who might help me fab an aluminum enclosure for the camera.
notten said:
Honestly, I hope you are correct. I will definitely try the Linksys camera if Coreplayer delivers the updated punch to the video streaming. When it does I will come bug you to test the Linksys camera. With good video it's likely to be my solution. Also, I have a very good buddy who might help me fab an aluminum enclosure for the camera.
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Well the Linksys WVC54G I have is only a poxy 320x240 cam but as I said in the thread, if you can find a Linksys cam with good resolution it should have the same stream available.
OK, I know Crimble is coming up but I will try to set up a 5V portable supply and test this out for you.....(only cause it looks like I'm doin summat good but you have me REALLY interested now for myself, SMILES).
EDIT; How often do we need GPS waypoint ties to vid recording do you think?? (Soz, brain running on...)
A qvga camera will do for me, but the VWC is just way too large. I don't think I can get those to comfortably stay on a helmet without looking outrageously falmboyant.
If there's anything in 640x480 that will stream to TCPMP and fit on a helmet I'm buying it. What exactly is this Crimble? I couldn't find anything on it, but I'll try to build a portable power supply myself if necessary.
As to the GPS waypoints on video: I'm looking to record cool rides and have the playback showing my location. I think I might've unknowningly stolen the concept from Indy 500, which sends some sort of local positioning system for the camera overlays they do with the races. I wonder what else could benefit from this.
notten said:
A qvga camera will do for me, but the VWC is just way too large. I don't think I can get those to comfortably stay on a helmet without looking outrageously falmboyant.
If there's anything in 640x480 that will stream to TCPMP and fit on a helmet I'm buying it. What exactly is this Crimble? I couldn't find anything on it, but I'll try to build a portable power supply myself if necessary.
As to the GPS waypoints on video: I'm looking to record cool rides and have the playback showing my location. I think I might've unknowningly stolen the concept from Indy 500, which sends some sort of local positioning system for the camera overlays they do with the races. I wonder what else could benefit from this.
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Ahh... Crimble is my home location's (Yorkshire, England) acronim (you know, you use those in the US) for Christmas!....
Just buying a camera and using it is not in the 'METHOD' of XDA, if we can get it to work, WELL, then we take the guts and suit it to our purpose. If I can't do the hardware, I am sure somone else will look into that. One task at a time...Lets get a good image with GPS tags...
Lots about going Glass to PC but what about the other way around? Like TeamViewer etc?
Don't need input, just streaming display.
Thoughts ?
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Lots about going Glass to PC but what about the other way around? Like TeamViewer etc?
Don't need input, just streaming display.
Thoughts ?
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I think; glass processing power, glass data streaming, and glass battery life while data streaming are the limiting factors. These may change with updated hardware.
However, small screen size, and the lag that comes with all RDP streaming would also make it impractical.
Lastly I don't see how it would be that useful (I'd love to hear what you have in mind though) and I still haven't addressed the other problem, which is is it sounds like a lot of work to code.
I'm doing my PhD (psychology) and will be using Glass throughout. Essentially, I need a computer to 'talk' to glass in real time and have a series of computer streams be available to the Glass wearer, either by swipeable cards, or some type of quad view layout. I was hoping that a direct video stream would be simpler than writing full software (especially since I've only just begun to learn java).
Battery can be dealt with (external battery pack).
Data over WiFi should be good enough.
I found this
https://developers.google.com/glass/develop/mirror/static-cards?hl=en#attaching_video
But we run into programming limitations at the moment.
And I saw someone had made an app that streamed from a Go PRO camera via a URL , with camera connected to PC, but I think updates have killed that option, for now. I have tried to sidleoad several VNC client apps but I can't access any of the fields to fill in server information.
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I'm doing my PhD (psychology) and will be using Glass throughout. Essentially, I need a computer to 'talk' to glass in real time and have a series of computer streams be available to the Glass wearer, either by swipeable cards, or some type of quad view layout. I was hoping that a direct video stream would be simpler than writing full software (especially since I've only just begun to learn java).
Battery can be dealt with (external battery pack).
Data over WiFi should be good enough.
I found this
https://developers.google.com/glass/develop/mirror/static-cards?hl=en#attaching_video
But we run into programming limitations at the moment.
And I saw someone had made an app that streamed from a Go PRO camera via a URL , with camera connected to PC, but I think updates have killed that option, for now. I have tried to sidleoad several VNC client apps but I can't access any of the fields to fill in server information.
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I think it is definitely possible with cards but I don't think streaming is. I have a GoPro hero 3 black edition and it is capable of streaming because it creates its own WiFi hotspot that a phone can connect to and stream from although it gets very hot while doing it and reduces battery quickly.
I think the cards option would work best, what type of data are you going to be displaying? Lastly I think once the newer model comes out with more RAM, a better processor, and a better battery that it will be much more possible to stream a live feed from the computer. It is definitely possible in terms of software, its just a matter of how difficult. I'm not sure if the current Glass software is going to be able to do the trick. But since glass is really an android phone you might be able to talk to th developer of an already-existing android phone app that streams from a computer (there are lots of them). They might give you a general idea of how to code for it.
I did look at the link but I know very little about Java (although that will change soon) and I only know some C++ so sadly I can't help you with the actual code.
Hello guys, I'm planning to build my first carputer. 2 years ago I have modified a tablet, Asus zenpad 8, very similar to Nexus 7 in my opinion. Now I want something more.
What I want:
Fully automated pc that works exactly like an android head unit but much better and more flexibility when it comes to external devices like an external DAC with optical output. Actually this is the main reason for not buying an android head unit, didn't find one that works very well with an external DAC. Some other things that I want from this carputer: the compatibility with steering wheel controls, backup camera, fm or even DAB radio, gps, phone calls( via bluetooth), 4G internet and so on. Many of those things are pretty simple to integrate, will talk about them later.
The components:
1. The pc - didn't think about it yet because there are loads of mini pc on the market for good prices. The only problem I'm thinking is the start up on ignition. First I wanted to go for a Remix mini pc but I don't know how could I make it start on ignition and after that automatically play the last song. If I would go for a normal PC, I found a smart PSU which has the possibility of ignition start and stop and puts the computer in sleep mode. That way I will avoid the waiting time for the boot, in fact the computer will be permanently turned on. The only problem I can think of, is the compatibility of this PSU with the android Remix OS. Is it possible?
I've tested the Remix OS and I like it, very quiq, easy to use in car with a touch screen, support all the external devices( wifi, 4g, fm and DAB, external DAC with optical output) and the launcher can be changed. I know I can opt for Windows OS and that way I will be sure that the PSU works but in my opinion windows is not so "mobile friendly", not so easy to use in car.
2. The screen: not so many to talk about, found on ebay some 9" tft touch screens, very good resolution, hdmi connectivity and USB for touch. The best thing with these screens is the AV2 input for the backup camera. The screen automatically switch to this input, has guidance lines, and this way I solved the problem with the camera. And also is quite cheap.
3. Steering wheel controls. Found on ebay the Joycon steering wheel adapter that is compatible with Android. I just have to make an initial configuration and that's it, nothing more, simply works through USB.
4. The other external devices: all of them can be found on ebay for good prices. The only thing that worries me is the bluetooth compatibility. I remember when I built that Asus zenpad tablet, I couldn't find a solution for this. Now my question is, what type of bluetooth adapter should I buy and how do I integrate this in the carputer. And I'm not talking about physical connection, I think I will need some kind of software, app, that knows what to do with this bluetooth adapter.
So, in the end, I would need some help regarding the ignition start, just the hardware part of it, all the other automatic things (launch the app and play the song) can be made with tasker very easy. Also I would need some help with the bluetooth phone calls.
Hope I didn't miss any important thing and I will appreciate any help. Thanks.
yoiedi said:
Hello guys, I'm planning to build my first carputer. 2 years ago I have modified a tablet, Asus zenpad 8, very similar to Nexus 7 in my opinion. Now I want something more.
What I want:
Fully automated pc that works exactly like an android head unit but much better and more flexibility when it comes to external devices like an external DAC with optical output. Actually this is the main reason for not buying an android head unit, didn't find one that works very well with an external DAC. Some other things that I want from this carputer: the compatibility with steering wheel controls, backup camera, fm or even DAB radio, gps, phone calls( via bluetooth), 4G internet and so on. Many of those things are pretty simple to integrate, will talk about them later.
The components:
1. The pc - didn't think about it yet because there are loads of mini pc on the market for good prices. The only problem I'm thinking is the start up on ignition. First I wanted to go for a Remix mini pc but I don't know how could I make it start on ignition and after that automatically play the last song. If I would go for a normal PC, I found a smart PSU which has the possibility of ignition start and stop and puts the computer in sleep mode. That way I will avoid the waiting time for the boot, in fact the computer will be permanently turned on. The only problem I can think of, is the compatibility of this PSU with the android Remix OS. Is it possible?
I've tested the Remix OS and I like it, very quiq, easy to use in car with a touch screen, support all the external devices( wifi, 4g, fm and DAB, external DAC with optical output) and the launcher can be changed. I know I can opt for Windows OS and that way I will be sure that the PSU works but in my opinion windows is not so "mobile friendly", not so easy to use in car.
2. The screen: not so many to talk about, found on ebay some 9" tft touch screens, very good resolution, hdmi connectivity and USB for touch. The best thing with these screens is the AV2 input for the backup camera. The screen automatically switch to this input, has guidance lines, and this way I solved the problem with the camera. And also is quite cheap.
3. Steering wheel controls. Found on ebay the Joycon steering wheel adapter that is compatible with Android. I just have to make an initial configuration and that's it, nothing more, simply works through USB.
4. The other external devices: all of them can be found on ebay for good prices. The only thing that worries me is the bluetooth compatibility. I remember when I built that Asus zenpad tablet, I couldn't find a solution for this. Now my question is, what type of bluetooth adapter should I buy and how do I integrate this in the carputer. And I'm not talking about physical connection, I think I will need some kind of software, app, that knows what to do with this bluetooth adapter.
So, in the end, I would need some help regarding the ignition start, just the hardware part of it, all the other automatic things (launch the app and play the song) can be made with tasker very easy. Also I would need some help with the bluetooth phone calls.
Hope I didn't miss any important thing and I will appreciate any help. Thanks.
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Have you thought about using a rock 64 single board computer like a Raspberry Pi that Android is really supported something like that could work really well as it has gpio outputs for various functions USB inputs for audio dacs and DAB radio and can work with touch screens or even projectors for heads up.
The truth is I know nothing about raspberry pi, heard about them but nothing more. Can you please explain a bit more? Is it possible to make it automatically turn on/off on ignition? How? Apparently that's the hardest part of the job. I've read on the internet that Remix OS doesn't work very well with stand-by function and if I'll make it to shut down completely, I'm afraid that will take too long to boot back. I was thinking about Remix mini pc and a controller that simulates pressing of the on/off button simultaneously with the ignition but it has to be tested.
So, quickly searched on google about raspberry pi and banana pi possibilities, there are some power supplies for in car use, basically they simulate a shut down from the button with a delay. That looks very good, very easy to do and also very cheap. But, how fast can boot a raspberry or banana pi running Remix OS? Does anyone know?
yoiedi said:
The truth is I know nothing about raspberry pi, heard about them but nothing more. Can you please explain a bit more? Is it possible to make it automatically turn on/off on ignition? How? Apparently that's the hardest part of the job. I've read on the internet that Remix OS doesn't work very well with stand-by function and if I'll make it to shut down completely, I'm afraid that will take too long to boot back. I was thinking about Remix mini pc and a controller that simulates pressing of the on/off button simultaneously with the ignition but it has to be tested.
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To make it turn off and on with the ignition, just plug it into a 12v line that is powered when ignition is on. Generally the 12v line to your head unit fits that criteria. If you want constant power to keep the device in standby mode, you can connect a relay to an a wire that is powered when the car is powered, then use the relay to short the pins of the standby button.
For boot time, you can achieve quite a bit of improvement by getting the fastest sdcard you can buy.
Thanks for advice. I've searched on youtube how android works with raspberry pi and in my opinion they don't do it very well, I mean it struggles even on youtube playing videos. So, I bought an ssd hdd, 32gb and made some tests on my pc. Found a version of android 7 special made for in car use and I'm quite happy with it until now. This android has a "special" feature, when the power button is pressed the pc shut down without displaying any confirmation message on screen. That means it will work perfectly with an intelligent power supply like m2-atx, m3-atx etc. In the next few days I'll get a new pc, micro atx mainboard so I'll begin the tests on that. Until now I've got a boot time around 30-40 seconds. Is not a bad time but I'll try to remove the unnecessary apps from startup and see what happens then. I'll post some pictures or even videos when I'll have good results. Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
yoiedi said:
Thanks for advice. I've searched on youtube how android works with raspberry pi and in my opinion they don't do it very well, I mean it struggles even on youtube playing videos. So, I bought an ssd hdd, 32gb and made some tests on my pc. Found a version of android 7 special made for in car use and I'm quite happy with it until now. This android has a "special" feature, when the power button is pressed the pc shut down without displaying any confirmation message on screen. That means it will work perfectly with an intelligent power supply like m2-atx, m3-atx etc. In the next few days I'll get a new pc, micro atx mainboard so I'll begin the tests on that. Until now I've got a boot time around 30-40 seconds. Is not a bad time but I'll try to remove the unnecessary apps from startup and see what happens then. I'll post some pictures or even videos when I'll have good results. Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
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Check these out http://www.hardkernel.com/main/main.php
yoiedi said:
Thanks for advice. I've searched on youtube how android works with raspberry pi and in my opinion they don't do it very well, I mean it struggles even on youtube playing videos. So, I bought an ssd hdd, 32gb and made some tests on my pc. Found a version of android 7 special made for in car use and I'm quite happy with it until now. This android has a "special" feature, when the power button is pressed the pc shut down without displaying any confirmation message on screen. That means it will work perfectly with an intelligent power supply like m2-atx, m3-atx etc. In the next few days I'll get a new pc, micro atx mainboard so I'll begin the tests on that. Until now I've got a boot time around 30-40 seconds. Is not a bad time but I'll try to remove the unnecessary apps from startup and see what happens then. I'll post some pictures or even videos when I'll have good results. Any advice is welcome. Thanks.
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Why don't you get an android head unit?
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Why don't you get an android head unit?
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I think you didn't read, I couldn't find any that works with an external sound card(DAC). My audio system is quite expensive, made for sound quality, and of course I want the head unit to be as good as possible. An external sound card with optical output I think is the best you can get.
Google search "raspberry pi alternative" theres lots of these little gadgets now adays, raspberry pi 3B is one of the most popular ( and cheapest) but there are more out there that are more powerful & better hardware.. The ASUS Tinkerboard is becoming popular as well I think I may be getting one for a streaming machine.
I've already purchased the PC and ordered the PSU. The price for all those components(+ a 30gb ssd) was under 100£ so not very expensive. Why I went for a pc instead of a single board pc? I don't know, maybe because I have no previous experience with them. Yes is true that is way much bigger than a raspberry alternative and the power consumption as well but I don't mind, maybe in the future when I'll get bored again I will try one of those pc's.
So, I've tried to install the Android X86 64bit (there is one version on internet with a patch that removes the confirmation message when you want to shut it down) on this pc with no success, all I've got was a black screen or a continuous reboot. Found out that Android X86 64bit is not so friendly with AMD cpu's. Should've search for that before buying it. Anyway, tried the 32bit version so that one works very well but I didn't find any with that patch installed. How can I remove that confirmation message when the power button is pressed?
Thanks.
first tests, quite happy with it, still lot of work to do.
https://youtu.be/lNJmRjXG81A
Odroid C2 with android + kodi
Hi folks,
I'm still rocking my Note 8 and S8+.
I've been watching and learning how to day trade from my friends. I'm looking to get into this slowly and carefully.
There are several great free apps for this, but because each app send to miss a few components that others have, it'll take three apps running at once on a screen in real time to even come close to providing all the charts and info that my friend's desktop E-Trade account (that costs more than I can afford right now) shows.
I'll be making really small, low risk "baby trades" on this set-up for now, until I graduate to the real deal quite some time from now.
Question is, is this the type of thing that a DeX dock will do for me, utilizing my phone with a high speed WiFi connection, keyboard and mouse?
I'm not finding YouTube videos about Dex that show it being used in this type of application.
Thanks muchly!