[Q] Worth switching from a Moto X 2014? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I currently own a Moto X 2014 and I'm considering buying a Nexus 6. Does anyone who owns the Nexus 6 think it's worth the upgrade from the Moto X 2014? I know the Nexus 6 has better specs, but the devices look near enough identical apart from size obviously. I miss my fast Nexus updates which is the main thing pulling me towards the N6.

Had the X 2014 for about a month. Miss the development community of the nexus. If you can handle the size then its an all around better phone. No regrets since switching.

I have a N6 in my cart and a X 2014 in my hand. If moto suite were able to work on the N6 I would click on process order now. But I don't think I could live without it.

Thanks for the replies. The Moto suite doesn't bother me too much I could easily live without it. The size of the Nexus 6 is a bit of a concern but I'm sure I'd get used to it. I think I'll sit on this over the weekend before making a decision. I do miss the Nexus developer community.

Diesel779 said:
Does anyone who owns the Nexus 6 think it's worth the upgrade from the Moto X 2014?
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Yes.

I had the 2014 Moto X and returned it for the Nexus 6. I too was concerned about the size of the Nexus but its really not that bad. I don't miss the Moto X at all. The fast updates and Dev community makes the Nexus a clear winner IMO.

Diesel779 said:
Thanks for the replies. The Moto suite doesn't bother me too much I could easily live without it. The size of the Nexus 6 is a bit of a concern but I'm sure I'd get used to it. I think I'll sit on this over the weekend before making a decision. I do miss the Nexus developer community.
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The size is what made me leave nexus. I had nexus 4 then nexus 5. Now I am on HTC m8. Glad I didn't jump to nexus 6. I will wait for the next nexus;if there are any.

badboy47 said:
The size is what made me leave nexus. I had nexus 4 then nexus 5. Now I am on HTC m8. Glad I didn't jump to nexus 6. I will wait for the next nexus;if there are any.
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I had an M8 too, loved it. I only got rid of it because of the camera really. I'm almost certainly going to get the M9 or HIMA as it's being called.

Diesel779 said:
I had an M8 too, loved it. I only got rid of it because of the camera really. I'm almost certainly going to get the M9 or HIMA as it's being called.
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I had the M8 too but it bothered me how tall it is and how the camera was worse than my M7. I ordered Moto X and it was almost $622 with leather back and I could not justify getting a bad camera and small battery for that price. I returned my Moto X 2014 (I've had 2) and jumped to Nexus 6. No regrets at all. It is every bit Motorola and Nexus. Miss the Moto Voice at times but that is the only thing I miss. Just my .02 cents.

noobsquared said:
I had the M8 too but it bothered me how tall it is and how the camera was worse than my M7. I ordered Moto X and it was almost $622 with leather back and I could not justify getting a bad camera and small battery for that price. I returned my Moto X 2014 (I've had 2) and jumped to Nexus 6. No regrets at all. It is every bit Motorola and Nexus. Miss the Moto Voice at times but that is the only thing I miss. Just my .02 cents.
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Thanks. Yeah the M8 was a bit tall for me too. Isn't the camera in the Nexus 6 the same as the one in the Moto X 2014 apart from the ois?

Diesel779 said:
Thanks. Yeah the M8 was a bit tall for me too. Isn't the camera in the Nexus 6 the same as the one in the Moto X 2014 apart from the ois?
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They made M8 like iPhone and I dislike iPhone with a passion (trying to not use the hate word) lol
No, the camera module is completely different.
Moto X has an older version of Sony sensor (IMX135) that is 5 piece I believe and has f2.4. It's a pretty old sensor that I don't think anyone else is using but I may be wrong.
Nexus 6 has the same sensor (IMX214) as OnePlus One and a lot of other 2014 phones with 6 piece lens and f2.0 for wider aperture and better low light pics. OIS helps too of course. They need to work on their software but that's a whole different can of worms.
Motorola did something right with the X by going with Sony sensor but they picked a very old sensor that may have been laying around just like they did with the processor on 360. I have no complains about my 360 but I'm just making a point. I don't know why they do it but I am seeing a pattern here?

noobsquared said:
They made M8 like iPhone and I dislike iPhone with a passion (trying to not use the hate word) lol
No, the camera module is completely different.
Moto X has an older version of Sony sensor (IMX135) that is 5 piece I believe and has f2.4. It's a pretty old sensor that I don't think anyone else is using but I may be wrong.
Nexus 6 has the same sensor (IMX214) as OnePlus One and a lot of other 2014 phones with 6 piece lens and f2.0 for wider aperture and better low light pics. OIS helps too of course. They need to work on their software but that's a whole different can of worms.
Motorola did something right with the X by going with Sony sensor but they picked a very old sensor that may have been laying around just like they did with the processor on 360. I have no complains about my 360 but I'm just making a point. I don't know why they do it but I am seeing a pattern here?
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Thanks for the clarification. Do you think Lollipop will bring any software improvements to the Moto X? I'm close to pulling the trigger on a Nexus 6. I almost purchased a OnePlus in the week but decided I'd rather not go down that road. So, for me it's either stick with the Moto X until the M9 is released or get a Nexus 6. The only thing that slightly concerns me about the Nexus 6 is its size. However, I'm sure I'd adjust.

Diesel779 said:
Thanks for the clarification. Do you think Lollipop will bring any software improvements to the Moto X? I'm close to pulling the trigger on a Nexus 6. I almost purchased a OnePlus in the week but decided I'd rather not go down that road. So, for me it's either stick with the Moto X until the M9 is released or get a Nexus 6. The only thing that slightly concerns me about the Nexus 6 is its size. However, I'm sure I'd adjust.
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You're very welcome. Instead of saying thanks, better thing to do is hit the thanks/thumbs up that helps with other person's repo and gets the point across.
Anyways, I used the X with Lollipop and didn't see much difference. Don't get me wrong, it is not a bad camera and software is pretty decent but it is just not there yet. Being an old sensor, I think it has it's limitations on top of software. Go to a store like TMobile, ATT or Sprint and play with one before pulling the trigger. It feels just like X, just bigger IMHO.
I actually lioe the dimple and sides better on N6 since X is almost too skinny and slippery.

noobsquared said:
You're very welcome. Instead of saying thanks, better thing to do is hit the thanks/thumbs up that helps with other person's repo and gets the point across.
Anyways, I used the X with Lollipop and didn't see much difference. Don't get me wrong, it is not a bad camera and software is pretty decent but it is just not there yet. Being an old sensor, I think it has it's limitations on top of software. Go to a store like TMobile, ATT or Sprint and play with one before pulling the trigger. It feels just like X, just bigger IMHO.
I actually lioe the dimple and sides better on N6 since X is almost too skinny and slippery.
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For some reason I'm limited to 8 thanks a day and I've already used my 8 today. I'll be sure to click thanks on the posts you've helped me with tomorrow.

Diesel779 said:
For some reason I'm limited to 8 thanks a day and I've already used my 8 today. I'll be sure to click thanks on the posts you've helped me with tomorrow.
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Haha, no worries man. I was just making sure you know. Feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I had both at one point and i picked N6 but YMMV. Just play with N6 and see if you like it. I know, I am not going back to X just because N6 is every bit X and some more IMHO. Be sure to play with one at a store first if you are concerned about the size.

noobsquared said:
Haha, no worries man. I was just making sure you know. Feel free to ask any other questions you may have. I had both at one point and i picked N6 but YMMV. Just play with N6 and see if you like it. I know, I am not going back to X just because N6 is every bit X and some more IMHO. Be sure to play with one at a store first if you are concerned about the size.
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Yeah, I'm going to go to the Vodafone store tomorrow here i the UK, they should have them in. If I like the size I'll definitely pull the trigger. I love Nexus devices ad the de community they have.

Diesel779 said:
Yeah, I'm going to go to the Vodafone store tomorrow here i the UK, they should have them in. If I like the size I'll definitely pull the trigger. I love Nexus devices ad the de community they have.
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The size takes about a week to get used to. It also depends on what your previous phone was. To me, I started becoming comfortable after a day or two because the phone I had prior to this was 5.5.
Once you use it for a week, you won't want to go back and your view on phones will look different especially to phones that don't have wide screens
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zephiK said:
The size takes about a week to get used to. It also depends on what your previous phone was. To me, I started becoming comfortable after a day or two because the phone I had prior to this was 5.5.
Once you use it for a week, you won't want to go back and your view on phones will look different especially to phones that don't have wide screens
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I did have a G3 earlier this year and I was happy with the size of that device, so the Nexus 6 should suit me. I really miss owning a Nexus phone and all the perks that come with it.

I've played with a Nexus 6 in store today and the size is fine. However, now I've got Lollipop on my Moto X 2014 I'm even more torn.

Maybe you should ask this same question in the moto x forum. Both sides of the fence...

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The Moto X or Note 3 or LG G2 or Nexus 5??

Which one y'all this going to be the best? Right now I have the Moto X and it's the best phone I had so far but what about these other great phones are they just as good or better? Will the Nexus 5 be like the Moto X just with a bigger screen and a little differences? What y'all think?
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I have the SGS4 and honestly I'm so over skins on android. so no matter what the specs on a phone I'm done with anything skinned. That said I am torn between the Moto X and nexus 5. The 5 maybe has better specs but I really love the X and want motorola and the USA made X to do well. So in in the fence. 60% Moto x 40% nexus 5
I tried the Note 2 last year and hated the huge size. So for that reason the Note 3 is completely out of the question (even though i'd love it).
The LG G2 is out of the question for me also because in my opinion if i'm gonna get a 5" phone it's going to be the Nexus 5.
That being said, I love my Moto X. I have one more week to return it to AT&T and decide if I want something else but i'm not sure what i'm going to do.
From what I can tell the only advantages to the Nexus 5 will be the larger screen, the fact that it's LCD (which I prefer) and the development will probably be awesome.
The Moto X has SUCH good battery life, comfortable size, active notifications, and as someone else mentioned... built in the US which I like.
I'm pretty torn between the X and the Nexus 5 and ultimately i'll probably end up keeping the X and if anything i'll sell it down the road and pick up a Nexus 5 off contract.
cc16177 said:
I tried the Note 2 last year and hated the huge size. So for that reason the Note 3 is completely out of the question (even though i'd love it).
The LG G2 is out of the question for me also because in my opinion if i'm gonna get a 5" phone it's going to be the Nexus 5.
That being said, I love my Moto X. I have one more week to return it to AT&T and decide if I want something else but i'm not sure what i'm going to do.
From what I can tell the only advantages to the Nexus 5 will be the larger screen, the fact that it's LCD (which I prefer) and the development will probably be awesome.
The Moto X has SUCH good battery life, comfortable size, active notifications, and as someone else mentioned... built in the US which I like.
I'm pretty torn between the X and the Nexus 5 and ultimately i'll probably end up keeping the X and if anything i'll sell it down the road and pick up a Nexus 5 off contract.
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Its posts like this that make me want the X and not wait for the nexus 5
Yea I got the Moto X on the first of October so it's to late for me if I wanted to switch. I have Sprint. I love the phone but I have a feeling it's going to be like the Nexus 5 so it's no need to bring the Nexus 5 but I hope it gets Updated just as fast as the Nexus phones.
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I think the T-Mobile and developer editions will be updated right away
AndreaCristiano said:
Its posts like this that make me want the X and not wait for the nexus 5
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Are you still using an S4? It's hard to appreciate how awesome the Moto X is until you actually use it.
Every night I still have between 20-40% battery with 2-5 hours screen on time over about 16 hours.
I've never seen anything like it except phones like the Note.
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Yes unfortunately haven't decided if I want to plunge the 600-650 for the moto x or wait and see what the nexus 5 costs
I hope the Sprint Moto X gets updates right away. And when I went to Sprint I was going to get the IPhone 5C but then I saw the Moto X so I got it and I made a good decision it's a very awesome phone.
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AndreaCristiano said:
Yes unfortunately haven't decided if I want to plunge the 600-650 for the moto x or wait and see what the nexus 5 costs
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Well that changes things a bit in my opinion. If I were looking at paying full retail for the Moto X or potentially as low as $349-399 for the Nexus 5 I would absolutely choose the Nexus 5 every single time.
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Well that changes things a bit in my opinion. If I were looking at paying full retail for the Moto X or potentially as low as $349-399 for the Nexus 5 I would absolutely choose the Nexus 5 every single time.
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And there lies the conundrum. The person I was selling the sgs4 to decided he didn't want to wait any longer. I now have only the option of gazelle or buyback world. The most their giving is 322 so if this nexus doesn't drop by months end that will go down as well
AndreaCristiano said:
And there lies the conundrum. The person I was selling the sgs4 to decided he didn't want to wait any longer. I now have only the option of gazelle or buyback world. The most their giving is 322 so if this nexus doesn't drop by months end that will go down as well
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Have you ever used Swappa? I've had GREAT success. The S4 is currently listing for $300-600.
cc16177 said:
Have you ever used Swappa? I've had GREAT success. The S4 is currently listing for $300-600.
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No how does it work
AndreaCristiano said:
No how does it work
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Just check out www.swappa.com you make an account and list your phone. Check how much other phones like yours sold for to figure out an asking price and I generally ask for 20 over that to allow wiggle room.
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cc16177 said:
Just check out www.swappa.com you make an account and list your phone. Check how much other phones like yours sold for to figure out an asking price and I generally ask for 20 over that to allow wiggle room.
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Phone is up. Selling it a 32g Samsung SD and the S view cover
I know I hate skinned android and I dont have much time to flash or keep up with the latest ROMS, so LG, Samsung, and HTC were out for me. I picked up the moto X and I will probably hold onto it for a little while and then sell if for the nexus.
That being said, the X is an awesome phone. Great form factor, active notifications are awesome, good battery, no lag or issues.

[Q] Would you still buy the X now?

I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
Slayers said:
I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
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I'm going to buy a spare moto X as I predict no phone will come come close to it in ergonomics and thin bezel size/aesthetics for a long time.
Moto X2 is almost guaranteed to have a 5 inch screen = automatic disqualification. I have bigger than average hands (can grip a basketball) but I use my phone so little that I really can;t justify carrying around a huge screen 14 hours a day for the 2 minutes it comes in handy for.
Basically all the phones released this year are sh1t aesthetically.
S5 = thick size bezels, looks like a boat
HTC M8 = MASSSSSSSSSSSSSSIVE bottom bezel, huge phone for that small (in comparison) screen
Oppo Find 7 = Too big (that's what she said)
Sony = bezels always too thick
LG G2 = buttons on the back = GTFO LG
Nexus 5 = bezels are thicker than it's twin brother than LG G2 which is unacceptable for me
iphone 6 = as per leaks the side AND top/bottom bezels are very thick
Basically after being addicted to phones since 2011 I have spent close to $4k on this stupid hobby.
Top 3 phones were:
1. Moto X
2. iphone 5
3. Nexus 4
Slayers said:
I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
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I'm in the situation your in right now. My S4's SIM tray self destructed. Needing a phone immediately and sick of using a large phone, I opted to buy the Moto X for 50 bucks.
Best phone I've ever owned. Period.
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My list of phones -> http://forums.androidcentral.com/an...3-post-your-phone-timeline-2.html#post2949873 and keep in mind, for the "Work" phones, I can pop my personal sim in and used them if I wanted.
Yes, I would still buy the X today.
Size, feel, screen, battery life, over all usability make the X my favorite device. And its great for single handed use.
My Samsungs don't feel right in my hand, and I have to shift them around too much for single handed use. Touchwiz is still too cartoony. There is a lot of bloat I don't use. The built in apps for SMS/MMS have issues when sending to non-samsung phones (S4), as does the calendar when sending invites(Note 2).
I like my BB Z10 more now that it runs Android APK's natively, and has a better camera than the X, but I like widgets and other things on the X better.
The only thing I'd change about the X is its camera in low light. It has gotten better with the software updates but its still not up to where it needs to be. That being said, for outdoors, the software improvements (rom and camera app) have made big improvements.
Oh, but if you want to Root the X, buy the developer edition, or one with an unlockable bootloader!!! It might cost you more, but you can be assured that you can root if you want.
In a heartbeat. I have always loved Motorola phones. If it wasn't for LTE I would have never got my S3. I genuinely feel like my droid x and x2 were better phones than my Galaxy S3, other than the LTE and camera.
I'd by an x right now cause there's nothing better out right now. Once the MotoX replacement comes out that might change. I'm hoping for a removable battery so I can get an extended battery.
I just bought one on eBay rather than a Nexus 5 - because no other manufacturer has really done the Active Notifications, Always-On Voice Command and the human-friendly design together just yet.
Here's to hoping Nexus 6 has all of those, though Active Notifications are unlikely on non-AMOLED phones.
Just got my X yesterday, so I guess I'm still in the "honeymoon" phase...but I'll be honest with you...I love this phone.
I have been around XDA for a while now and have owned 6 consecutive Android phones (goes without saying, I will have a sex change before I ever get an iPhone). I used to theme for several Moto phones back in the day (BIONIC/RAZR/DX). Motorola phones, in my opinion, are the best built phones out there. Mix that with Google and it's just a whole lot of awesome. From the day I rooted my original DROID I knew that I would never own another phone that I didn't root. 5 or so years later I have found myself with a phone that may never see the beautiful world of root and/or unlocked bootloaders. While that sucks, it says something about this phone. The fact that I am not regretting my decision to buy it should tell you how awesome it is. Everything about it is just sexy (besides the camera, which is nothing to write home about). As already mentioned, it is ergonomically stellar. By far the best in-hand feeling phone I've ever owned. Love the vibrant display and the nearly-vanilla android stock ROM.
To put it simply: I hate that it is locked down. But this is an incredibly solid and fun device and I could not be happier that I went with it. :good::good:
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Just got my X yesterday, so I guess I'm still in the "honeymoon" phase...but I'll be honest with you...I love this phone.
I have been around XDA for a while now and have owned 6 consecutive Android phones (goes without saying, I will have a sex change before I ever get an iPhone). I used to theme for several Moto phones back in the day (BIONIC/RAZR/DX). Motorola phones, in my opinion, are the best built phones out there. Mix that with Google and it's just a whole lot of awesome. From the day I rooted my original DROID I knew that I would never own another phone that I didn't root. 5 or so years later I have found myself with a phone that may never see the beautiful world of root and/or unlocked bootloaders. While that sucks, it says something about this phone. The fact that I am not regretting my decision to buy it should tell you how awesome it is. Everything about it is just sexy (besides the camera, which is nothing to write home about). As already mentioned, it is ergonomically stellar. By far the best in-hand feeling phone I've ever owned. Love the vibrant display and the nearly-vanilla android stock ROM.
To put it simply: I hate that it is locked down. But this is an incredibly solid and fun device and I could not be happier that I went with it. :good::good:
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You know about buying unlock codes? May not last long. If your phone is on his list.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751177
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You know about buying unlock codes? May not last long. If your phone is on his list.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751177
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Yeah, mine was manufactured in September so I'm not going to go through the hassle to find out it's a no go. Thanks for looking out though!
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I actually did just receive my Moto X today. Coming from a rooted Galaxy S3 running CarbonROM and KT Kernel.
With my GS3's governor set to Interactive and the go_hispeed_load set to 50, the GS3 has smoother scrolling. But the unrooted, stock Moto X has faster app opening speed, which was pleasantly surprising.
Like many other users have said, all newer phones are simply just too big. All VZW phones are also locked, so it makes software considerations important. Moto X is as close to stock Android as you can get on-contract with Verizon and that is a huge plus IMO.
The touchless controls work surprisingly well, sometimes it doesn't fire, but it works consistently enough to be useful.
Negative:
Can't find a way to completely silence the phone. Even if I turn all volumes down to 0, if I accidentally trigger the Google Now hotword, it will beep. Bad during a test or interview.
The screen is a bit too warm. Even though the PPI is a tad higher than the GS3 and is a non-PenTile screen, white text on dark background on the Moto X looks weird. It's hard to describe but it almost seems liek as if the edges of the letters are bleeding.
My GS3 earbuds wire controls don't work.
Non-removable battery or microSD.
Camera.
I take it from what a few of you are saying is that no Moto X I buy now from the Moto Creator site or Verizon is going to be rootable if it's not a developer version, correct? If this is the case, how much extra am I going to have to spend? I need root for my root call blocker and greenify.
Also, I have been considering getting one of the wood back ones. I think they look super slick from the pictures I've see. Never seen one in person though. Any positives or negatives someone could share about the wood backs?
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jamesino said:
Can't find a way to completely silence the phone. Even if I turn all volumes down to 0, if I accidentally trigger the Google Now hotword, it will beep. Bad during a test or interview.
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Settings -> Touchless Controls ->Launch Phrase Sound [Unchecked]
Problem solved.
Slayers said:
I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
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Yes. It's by far the best phone ever made.
The only phone you should consider waiting for is the Moto X+1 or LG G3
Yes if you can find a good deal on a used one. No because its been out for 9 months already which is like 5 years in phone time. If my X broke now I would get a beater phone for summer until iPhone6 or X+1 came out.
You ask a question like this in a Moto X forum, what answer do you expect?
I have a Moto X, and if the X2 is 5 inches, I will keep using my X. Best phone I ever had.
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Hmmm, Well if I get a brighter screen on my next DE X (warranty) then yes.
I have used the S4 and unless you put CyanogenMod to it, Touchwiz is just horrible and overall it's much slower than the Moto X. It's just a night and day difference in experience. You'll find much more useful features with the Moto X. The camera is not as good, but it's the only thing you'll miss. The Moto X is still a great device, there isn't any other device out now that make me want to switch to it probably until the Moto X+1 come out.
Active notifications are just a show stopper. Being able to pull your phone out of pocket abs it shows the time without even having to wake it. Also if its sitting on the desk , just nudge it and the time appears. It's brilliant
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I've had my motox for 7 months now and I can honestly say I would buy this phone again if I had to.
It's the only phone on the market that has the features I want.
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Slayers said:
I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
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The answer is yes, just ordered mine yesterday. Cant wait to get it. Moving from a HTC One.
After reading through all these comments I'm even more excited to get it. I was able to get a student discount on it and I chatted with them so they sent me a free skip.

[q] nexus 4 or moto x

hey everybody, i wasnt sure where i should ask this question but here we go.
My dad is looking for a new phone, looking at the moto x or nexus 4 because theyre pretty much the same price and ive always wanted the moto x. I have a nexus 4 now and hes thinking on buying the moto x and swapping it for my nexus 4. would you guys recomend me doing it? im having some doubts and i will list them now
doubts about swapping:
i love the nexus 4 design
i love how the nexus 4 has a android L preview and will get updates quick
i love the choice of roms, kernels and all sorts.
when i had a moto g (as a temp phone) to be able to use hangouts you had to have the text messaging app on as well, which i didnt like in the slightest. also the phone app didnt have the search feature like the nexus does.
Reasons to swap:
i like the smaller bezzles of the moto x
i like the features
i like how its faster
i like how the battery is better
i like how the speaker doesnt flicker like the nexus 4
better camera
better front camera
no snapchat reboots
(smoother?)
how it doesnt heat up and throttle like the nexus
I've searched and searched but nothing really answers my question, they just compare price and stuff but price isnt a problem. What do you guys recommend? Thanks.
If you want to flash lots of things, nexus. If not....moto x.
Easy decision when you decide that.
But N4? Why not N5? Price is comparable to the X.
The Moto X is probably in reality better than the N4 in every way. But a flashing enthusiast will get bored with the X....like I did. Now my wife has it. Also, some X's don't have unlockable bootloader.
My advice is always....want roms and mods...like to tinker...then N5....if not, moto X. Its a great phone!
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If you want to flash lots of things, nexus. If not....moto x.
Easy decision when you decide that.
But N4? Why not N5? Price is comparable to the X.
The Moto X is probably in reality better than the N4 in every way. But a flashing enthusiast will get bored with the X....like I did. Now my wife has it. Also, some X's don't have unlockable bootloader.
My advice is always....want roms and mods...like to tinker...then N5....if not, moto X. Its a great phone!
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no i dont like flashing stuff really, i just like something that works. and nexus 5 is about £100 more- but yeah, should i get the moto then??
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no i dont like flashing stuff really, i just like something that works. and nexus 5 is about £100 more- but yeah, should i get the moto then??
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The devices I own are in my signature. And the Moto X, I'm my opinion, is the most polished device I've used. And best radio signal strength as you expect from Motorola. I'd still have mine....but I like to tinker to much. Lol
My wife had an iPhone 4s. Then an S2. Went back to her 4s. And said she wanted an iPhone 5s. Then she played with my moto x and loved it. I gave it to her and got an N5...to play with. I asked her a month later if she still wanted a 5s.....she said nope. She never wants another iPhone.
She may want the next X tho.
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Your Dad may take issue with the trade tho. Lol
KJ said:
The devices I own are in my signature. And the Moto X, I'm my opinion, is the most polished device I've used. And best radio signal strength as you expect from Motorola. I'd still have mine....but I like to tinker to much. Lol
My wife had an iPhone 4s. Then an S2. Went back to her 4s. And said she wanted an iPhone 5s. Then she played with my moto x and loved it. I gave it to her and got an N5...to play with. I asked her a month later if she still wanted a 5s.....she said nope. She never wants another iPhone.
She may want the next X tho.
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Your Dad may take issue with the trade tho. Lol
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hahaha yeah i think i'd swap then! and nooo hes not really bothered which he has, he likes the nexus- if anything he thinks the nexus is better//the same.. not gonna decline the offer though am i "1 2 3 no swap back" hahaha
A vote for the Moto X. I've bought a handful of phones of the years (HTC, Samsung, LG, Nokia, Moto), a few for myself and more for my family members. The Moto X stands ahead of the others for quality, ruggedness and design.
In fact, just for fun I did T-Mobile's 7-day iPhone 5s test drive last week, and I returned it a day early. I wanted to get back to my Moto X. (And I'm a Mac fanboy, by the way.)
That said, I do miss flashing ROMs the way I did on my HTC Sensation. But I probably get more actual use out of my phone now.
idonttakedrugs said:
hey everybody, i wasnt sure where i should ask this question but here we go.
My dad is looking for a new phone, looking at the moto x or nexus 4 because theyre pretty much the same price and ive always wanted the moto x. I have a nexus 4 now and hes thinking on buying the moto x and swapping it for my nexus 4. would you guys recomend me doing it? im having some doubts and i will list them now
doubts about swapping:
i love the nexus 4 design
i love how the nexus 4 has a android L preview and will get updates quick
i love the choice of roms, kernels and all sorts.
when i had a moto g (as a temp phone) to be able to use hangouts you had to have the text messaging app on as well, which i didnt like in the slightest. also the phone app didnt have the search feature like the nexus does.
Reasons to swap:
i like the smaller bezzles of the moto x
i like the features
i like how its faster
i like how the battery is better
i like how the speaker doesnt flicker like the nexus 4
better camera
better front camera
no snapchat reboots
(smoother?)
how it doesnt heat up and throttle like the nexus
I've searched and searched but nothing really answers my question, they just compare price and stuff but price isnt a problem. What do you guys recommend? Thanks.
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You've asked in the moto x forum. Are you asking for biased views? Because your gonna get them.
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You've asked in the moto x forum. Are you asking for biased views? Because your gonna get them.
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You are obviously right.
I did throw the N5 name in there tho. ?
Why Nexus 4? Why you picked that? Where I live Nexus 5 and X are of almost same price (N5 being slightly higher), and in UK the price is almost same if I am not wrong, unless you are in a contract. N4 is quite outdated, old.
Moto X definitely. Chose it over Nexus 5. The reasons have been said already, a lot of times, still repeating, Active display, AMOLED, Ergonomics and Size, Call quality, Speaker phone quality, and of course the performance. While with Nexus you will get the fastest Android out there at the moment because of better hardware, and a bigger display with more resolution, but it's IPS, so it's dull, call quality can never match X's, everyone knows how the speaker is on the N5, no active display, if that matters to you, and last but not the least an extremely fragile device.
If there were a phone at X's size, with S5's display, Z2/1020's camera and G3's hardware then I would probably let myself switch off from browsing mobile related websites for six months.
So I have a moto x right now and just loved the active display function. Very good battery life and smoother. Just my opinion.
I've had a N4 before and there's no comparison when pitted against the Moto X. Almost everything about the X is better than the N4 and N5.
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A vote for the Moto X. I've bought a handful of phones of the years (HTC, Samsung, LG, Nokia, Moto), a few for myself and more for my family members. The Moto X stands ahead of the others for quality, ruggedness and design.
In fact, just for fun I did T-Mobile's 7-day iPhone 5s test drive last week, and I returned it a day early. I wanted to get back to my Moto X. (And I'm a Mac fanboy, by the way.)
That said, I do miss flashing ROMs the way I did on my HTC Sensation. But I probably get more actual use out of my phone now.
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okay, sounds good!! thanks
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I've had a N4 before and there's no comparison when pitted against the Moto X. Almost everything about the X is better than the N4 and N5.
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thank you! im about to go to the shop now
I wouldn't say the X is better than the N5, just bought a N5 after having my moto x for almost a year, the major difference is development for N5 kicks azz while the moto x development just sucks. Both phones have there advantages and disadvantages, yes moto did a good job on the firmware side but for those who run custom Roms and the such the N5 rocks. Sorry moto ,nexus devices are always going to be in my pocket from this day forward
Moto X to a Nexus 5

Other phones to consider

Unfortunately, I will not be purchasing the phablet, it is simply to big for my taste and small hands. I was gutted when the rumors of it being 6 inches ended up being true. So, I am now lost as to what other phones to look into as I would like to upgrade my Nexus 4.
What are some phones with similar specs to the Nexus 6 without the ginormous size? I travel quite a bit so a good camera is a must.
Cheers!
texaslittleangel said:
Unfortunately, I will not be purchasing the phablet, it is simply to big for my taste and small hands. I was gutted when the rumors of it being 6 inches ended up being true. So, I am now lost as to what other phones to look into as I would like to upgrade my Nexus 4.
What are some phones with similar specs to the Nexus 6 without the ginormous size? I travel quite a bit so a good camera is a must.
Cheers!
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Get the Nexus 5. It's still a great phone!
jcarlm said:
Get the Nexus 5. It's still a great phone!
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The Sony Z3 looks interesting. The Verizon Z3v isn't quite as good, but I'm guessing you're not on Verizon.
I know this is the Nexus forum but the LG G3 might be a good one to put on the list. Still top specs and large screen without the weight and size.
Moto X 2014
Get the OPO
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Moto X 2014
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:good:
Z3 Compact. Great specs and one of the best battery test in the market.
If the Moto X had a 3000 battery it would be my new phone.
October 27 15:00 GMT One Plus One pre-orders open up.
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Get the OPO
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Same situation, that's what I'm trying to do!
I would get the Droid turbo if I wasn't getting the Nexus. I believe there will be a GSM variant. Smaller but huge battery. I would also consider the OPO.
Ditto what hockeyman12c said. Droid Turbo or the GSM variant (Moto X Play) have nearly the same specs as the Nexus 6 but in a smaller form factor.
Droid turbo, opo or whatever phone that has huge battery.
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I would get the Droid turbo if I wasn't getting the Nexus. I believe there will be a GSM variant. Smaller but huge battery. I would also consider the OPO.
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÷1 for the Droid Turbo
fleonard said:
Same situation, that's what I'm trying to do!
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The funny thing is we will get our nexus before you get your opo ....they have so f'd up everything trying to launch and sell that phone
nexus6R3plicant said:
The funny thing is we will get our nexus before you get your opo ....they have so f'd up everything trying to launch and sell that phone
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Was once the best phone you couldn't buy.
Now it isn't the best phone, the company selling it has the worst customer support in the industry, the Q/C is no bueno...and...wait for it...you still can't buy it even if you wanted to.
Posting their "pre-order" 2 days before Nexus6 is just monumentally stupid timing.
My first recommendation would be the Moto X. I just got mine and it is one seriously amazing device. Same look and feel as the N6, stock Android, unlocked bootloader if you get the Pure Edition... It got kind of a bad rap for its battery, but believe me, it's not as bad as its rating would have you believe. I can get 6 hours screen time, no problem. I can't recommend it enough.
Another option would be the Nexus 5, which is still a beast of a phone. It definitely has at least another year of life left, especially with Android L on the horizon which makes it a completely different phone. I just flashed L on it last night, and it makes me want to use it as my daily driver again, even though I just bought the iPhone 6 and 2014 Moto X. You can't go wrong if you get the N5.
If you are in the US, droid turbo is a good choice
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Z3 Compact. Great specs and one of the best battery test in the market.
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Another vote for the Z3C, battery life is a beast. 7.5 SOT over 13 hours of heavy usage. (no games though)
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Best phone to get next? (Small)

Hey Guys,
Just wanted your advice on what phone I should get next. I Love my moto x Dev ed, its the best phone I ever had but its time for an upgrade.
One of the things I loved about it most is the size. Although the new moto x improved on a lot of stuff I don't like how much bigger it is. Its really hard to find a good/better phone in the same size range. Any suggestions? Anyone who upgraded to something else?
I know the main to contenders are galaxy alpha and sony xperia z3c. However, with the samsung I don't want to deal with touchwiz.. (although i suppose I could root and put cm or a custom rom?) . I really like the z3c and it has great reviews BUT the forums have a lot of people complaining about the glass back spontaneously cracking. Also hearing about sony leaving the smartphone market has me worries about future support and updates.
With either of these and others I will also miss the moto x features like active display and moto voice.. Not to mention, I've had a great experience with motorola customer service and warranty replacements/RMA and I'm not confident about getting the same from sony if the glass cracks or something happens.
Which leans me back toward moto.. but I don't want to go bigger. I was also considering the saygus V2. But don't know about their support, updates, and real hands on use reviews..Not to mention its not cheap haha.
So you see my dilemna? I think I might just have to compromise and go with the new moto x and just get used to the size. Thoughts?
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..
pelebkf said:
I am in the exact same predicament. I bought the 2014 moto x and returned it due to size.
The z3c looks like a good small phone but the glass reminds me of the nexus 4 and it will scratch without a case. Plus Sony may exit the smartphone industry. Updates are going to be slow as well.
The other ones are stripped down versions of there flag ships.
The iPhone 6 is not too much bigger and feels good in the hand but iOS is too limited for my taste.
The nexus 5 is not that much bigger but certainly not as nice feeling as the moto x
Really the smaller phones are going away. So if you are going to increase in size I would go with the 2014 moto x
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motorola should keep't the size of moto x and just upgrade hardware inside. like iphone 4/4s 5/5s.
that is the big problem of android. you see every new phone different design. even it is great design, they upgrade it with ****.
why i love my moto x and dont want upgrade?
- every possible rom is available, i cant use android without root
- good build quality, after 1 year of use, no scratches on screen (never used any screen protection or case)
- battery is enough for me for all possible scenarios.
- 2 port usb charger
- clean system as possible (even though I am a big fan of htc sense)
- never had any problem openin a webpage (yes that is another reason why people buy smartphones )
- speaker and audio codec quality
- useful functions without any gimmick
and size, use it without dropping it. yes this is a good feel
i'm watching new smartphones but none of them exciting me (Z3 Compact, Galaxy Alpha, X 2014)
thanks to moto x i have first time not changed my android phone more than 1 year. (using android since g1) that is biggest reason why i love moto x 2013 :good:
I too am starting to look for a replacement for my XT1060. I love it, but will need something new soon. I was very hopeful for the Nexus 6, but it absolutely too big. The Moto X 2014 looks nice but after getting a Moto Maker 2013 edition and using the Chinese Middleman to unlock the bootloader, and Verizon not offering the Pure edition, it's a no go. Droid Turbo was nice in hand, but it has little hope of rooting or bootloader unlocks (seems to be little demand), and it didn't seem as smooth as the Nexus 6 that my GF has. I held an HTC One M8 the other day and some of the developments for the M9 look nice, but I've never had an HTC device. I would need to be able to root/unlock and get as close to pure Android like the Moto X as possible. It is bigger than the Moto X 2013, but not as big as the Nexus 6.
I have a Nexus 7 2013, so I don't really need a big phone. I've used my GF's N6 a few times and it is just awkward as a phone. Too big for one hand and almost too small for two. Part of it is probably me forcing myself to dislike it so I don't cave and just go buy one.
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Thanks! I had a nexus 4 and it was fine but I did keep it in a case. I guess I'd have to do the same for the z3c.. it looks pretty sleek so I would've like to rock it without a case. Still want it even with all the complaints of bad experiences.
And yeah, definitely not switching to iOS. I can consider nexus 5 I suppose. Its sad how limited the smaller options are. I'll probably end up going with 2014 moto x..
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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.
I'm getting a free upgrade/replacement to moto x 2014 under warranty from motorola. I'm deciding if I should just keep it since they're giving me it, or sell it and get something else. Maybe I'll just buy a 2013 dev ed again. I really had no complaints about it.. It wasn't slow or laggy or anything really.. or a nexus 5.. hmm.
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Here's a page that shows the size difference between the phones you mentioned. The 2013 X is much smaller than everything else you mentioned, the 2014 is biggest.
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Thanks, I was actually looking at size comparisons earlier. The z3c is actually the same or even barely smaller than 2013 x actually. and alpha is close as well. I might just take the plunge for the xperia z3c and be careful with it...
I'd buy a Galaxy Alpha if verizon had it. Actually verizon has no new phones that are as small as the 1st Gen moto X, since they also didn't get the Xperia Z3 compact.
Samsung is not my favorite, but I'm really hoping someone this year addresses this with a smaller phone with excellent build quality and some updated specs - preferably either Motorola or HTC. Although, I guess I can survive with my 1st Gen moto X for another year. Once Lollipop rolls out for moto x 1st gen maybe I won't care as much =)
I keep hoping that Moto will add something that's between 4.7" and 5" to the lineup that still has Active Display and Moto Voice. Doesn't have to have Moto Maker, doesn't have to have top of the line specs (slightly better than the Moto X 2013 would be good). An HD screen would be nice. Obviously AMOLED is a requirement to do the active display. Heck, I'd even take no LTE. Price point between the Moto X and the Moto G would be fine.
I doubt this would happen as the phone would compete directly with the Moto G 2014, but I can hope.
Since none of the current small handset options seem worthwhile, I'm thinking I may just stick with the moto x 2013 for now and wait to see what comes out in the next few months. Hopefully we'll have a good alternative soon. In the mean time this should hold out. And I agree, won't feel the need as much once we get lollipop.
Thanks!
me too
Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice
I'm sticking with my Moto X, although the Nexus 6 gets more and more tempting. I find myself missing my Note 2 for its screen size, but not much else.
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Keeping my moto x 2013 Dev with KitKat and hoping for a smaller moto x 2015.
Also, tweeted the thread to @motorola may they hear our voice
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Thanks! When the new one first came out there was also a huge thread with many people disappointed by the larger size. I highly doubt they would go backwards/smaller now though..
I love this phone but I too am itching to move on. I have told myself I'm only buying a phone that launches with lollipop ? so far I haven't seen anything.
I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!
mario24601 said:
I went from nexus 4 to 2014 X to Sony z3 compact to finally 2013 X.... I made the best choice I think!
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Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..
vikramkhalsa said:
Wait really? You moved backwards, in a sense? For size/comfort or what? What made you give up the z3c?
I went from nexus 4 to 2013 x. And I'm worried about the future, 2013 x is good for now but we'll probably need something else within this year..
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Yeah a bit of a step back but the 2014 X was way too big, the z3c was nice but screen sensitivity was too high, it would register these Phantom tap or slides. Drove me nuts. The charging part also sucked with the little cover. I had the magnetic charger but darn thing never stayed on properly if I touched phone at all. 4.7 screens are sweet spot. I do hope someone comes out with a suitable replacement but in meantime the 2013 X is best out there for me.
Personally I hate the route phone manufacturers are taking with 5+ inch screens. Soon the word mobile will lose it's defined meaning. It's OK if you have a carry bag but if you use your pocket it becomes uncomfortable nor practical or "bonner" like lol.
Moto X 2013 has a 4.7 screen and the smallest body of any other phone with same screen size. A winning combination! Whoever takes the same approach next will get my cash until then Moto X will be the only phone I will use. Anything above 5.2 is just dumb and calling it a mobile is an insult imo.
My thoughts exactly. I can't stand the direction phone manufacturers are moving in. I'm holding on tightly to this phone until another small phone comes out with good specs.

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