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Will we ever get smooth graphics on X1?

Im talking about watching movies, playing games - i dont know what the reason its so slow but it is painfully slow. its bothering me a lot. it seems like older much cheaper phones can play video much better than our phones.
is it a hardware fault (no hope) or a software fault ?

its a software fault
if you update your phone to some custom roms the phone runs LOTS faster
anyways, my videos and some 3d games run pretty fast on my phone.
not java games cause those arent hardware supported

I have to say that I am pretty darn happy with video playback on this phone... its fast and doesnt lag... the sound is even in sync with the picture unlike some devices I have tried before... I have not played any graphics intensive games on this phone so far though...

a game like archibalds adventure cant even scroll properly. i mean it looks like it was taken out of the 80s.

Maybe it is because this phone has up to 5 times more pixels then previous phones you have owned?

whats the point in it having 5 times the pixels if it cant cope with them

tehnoobzorz said:
its a software fault
if you update your phone to some custom roms the phone runs LOTS faster
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Care to recommend a ROM?

orangedavie said:
whats the point in it having 5 times the pixels if it cant cope with them
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It copes with them just fine. it just wasn't made with gaming in mind.

Shadowdh said:
I have to say that I am pretty darn happy with video playback on this phone... its fast and doesnt lag... the sound is even in sync with the picture unlike some devices I have tried before... I have not played any graphics intensive games on this phone so far though...
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What videos? Are these videos, by chance a chintzy 320x240? I've tried avi videos in standard DVD resolution, 720x480 and 640x480 and they are both choppy as hell. There are far too many apologists for the really lackluster video playback on this device. I realize it's a driver issue, but when rich multimedia playback is one of the selling points, I think it verges on false advertising when it can't play accepted video standards. Have HTC pony up the money to Qualcomm for the right drivers and I think the X1 and a number of other devices in their stable can really start to live up to their claims.

Yeah, I have to agree. 5X the pixels means nothing if the phone can't handle them

No problem for me with video...
-I recode vidéo in 800*480 with HTC Touch HD Video Converter
-I use Windows Media Player to watch video

rom im using
im using touch it xperience 3.5 but i've heard touch it 2.2 was faster

from now on if it has qualcom in the hardware spec im gonna avoid it like the plague!

I gotta admit, just when I start being happy with the Xperia video.....
I'll look over at some movie my wife is watching on the iphone and just shake my head. The Xperia is NOT impressive in the video dept. I can get video to play to ALMOST lag free and it looks pretty dang good. But c'mon already! With the hardware capabilities of this phone, video should look all around amazing.

KennyXL said:
What videos? Are these videos, by chance a chintzy 320x240? I've tried avi videos in standard DVD resolution, 720x480 and 640x480 and they are both choppy as hell. There are far too many apologists for the really lackluster video playback on this device. I realize it's a driver issue, but when rich multimedia playback is one of the selling points, I think it verges on false advertising when it can't play accepted video standards. Have HTC pony up the money to Qualcomm for the right drivers and I think the X1 and a number of other devices in their stable can really start to live up to their claims.
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I have converted some Chinese tv serial episodes using magic video converter and they came out great, not too sure of the res but by memory its around 640x480 to 720x480 as you comment... no lag and sound is better than I expected... I also have a movie or two that works just as well, again Chinese stuff (as I am learning Chinese I find this is an interesting way to help out with both reading (subtitles) and listening)... I am using coreplayer and have it in full screen mode when watching...
Oh and I am by no means an apologist... if it was crap I would say so, but its not... but then I dont expect my phone to act or have the same capacity as my laptop/pc.... its a phone and does what it says on the tin...

I dont get it. I have a stock ROM and my video is perfect. I downloaded an Ipod converted (m4v) version of Superbad and it looks and sounds amazing FULL screen btw). All i had to do was rename the file to mp4 and it works perfectly! Maybe there is something else going on with you guys phones. I also have Anchorman, SemiPro, and several others running perfectly. Besides TF3D, i dont have any other plug ins installed.

I also have no issues with video playback,
I am running Touch IT 2.2 which i am not willing to replace yet because the ROM is fast as hell and bug free. Just used the HD converter in the sticky on page 1 along with a few speed tweeks from the Mark a Clienti thread and POW!! full screen, top notch quality res and not a single lag or frame drop in sight.
I have noticed that a lot of people are having issues with various applications on their SE X1's but i dont seem to have had any issues at all. I started with the clean ROM and made sure i installed all of my required apps and tweaks in one go, making sure to reset after each install. After that i just sat back and watched it fly, maybe i'm just lucky
Regards,
Creamy-Goodness

creamy said:
I also have no issues with video playback,
I am running Touch IT 2.2 which i am not willing to replace yet because the ROM is fast as hell and bug free. Just used the HD converter in the sticky on page 1 along with a few speed tweeks from the Mark a Clienti thread and POW!! full screen, top notch quality res and not a single lag or frame drop in sight.
I have noticed that a lot of people are having issues with various applications on their SE X1's but i dont seem to have had any issues at all. I started with the clean ROM and made sure i installed all of my required apps and tweaks in one go, making sure to reset after each install. After that i just sat back and watched it fly, maybe i'm just lucky
Regards,
Creamy-Goodness
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i dont see why I have to convert videos to another format.

Shadowdh said:
I have converted some Chinese tv serial episodes using magic video converter and they came out great, not too sure of the res but by memory its around 640x480 to 720x480 as you comment... no lag and sound is better than I expected... I also have a movie or two that works just as well, again Chinese stuff (as I am learning Chinese I find this is an interesting way to help out with both reading (subtitles) and listening)... I am using coreplayer and have it in full screen mode when watching...
Oh and I am by no means an apologist... if it was crap I would say so, but its not... but then I dont expect my phone to act or have the same capacity as my laptop/pc.... its a phone and does what it says on the tin...
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You might want to check out what the bitrates are on those videos. Your average avi video is about 1.3-1.4 gigabytes in size for your standard 1.75-2 hour movie. That comes to about 1,500 kbs. Anything significantly less than that and it looks kind of muddy when viewed on a regular sized TV screen. Ideally, you shouldn't even have to recode video you ripped yourself. In theory you should be able to rip once and play on all your appliances that are video capable using a standard codec with reasonable settings. An avi file 1.3 gigabytes in size for a 2 hour movie is entirely reasonable and I highly doubt that you can achieve that with the X1 in its current state. I've tried extensively and the only way you can make it play with any level of smoothness is by dramatically reducing the resolution or dropping the bitrate precipitously. You can't just drag an acceptable video from your computer onto this phone and expect it to play acceptably the way it is right now. As for the expectation that it's only a phone I say that the drivers are the only thing that prevent it from meeting the expectations. I'll bet the hardware is there, but HTC just feels like being cheap. Heck, there are phones debuting at MWC right now that do full motion 1080p playback of h.264 video. The X1, which isn't more than a few months old, can't smoothly play back a 640x480 1,500 kbs video. At $700 retail and their promise of a full-featured multi-media device that is scandalous. I dare anyone to say otherwise.

KennyXL said:
You might want to check out what the bitrates are on those videos. Your average avi video is about 1.3-1.4 gigabytes in size for your standard 1.75-2 hour movie. That comes to about 1,500 kbs. Anything significantly less than that and it looks kind of muddy when viewed on a regular sized TV screen.
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You sound much more knowledgable than me so I wont try to argue with you, but I have quite a few avi files that are around the 800mb size that play very well and are crisp and clear even on a bigger screen (my laptop is 15.4 and pc is 19inches), in fact I find it pretty rare to have an avi file over 900 Mb for a standard movie (up to 2hours I would guess is pretty standard)... As another poster a couple of posts back mentioned, I notice a few problems that people are having that I dont... thank goodness as with my level of understanding I would be hard pressed to now what it is I need to search for to fix the problem...

Considering Nook HD+ ( Questions )

Hey guys I'm currently a nexus 7 owner thinking of picking up this device for it's 1080p screen, I just had a few questions. I basically use my N7 for watching anime and reading manga, so 2 things I really need is MXplayer and good battery life. Does anyone know if 10 bit mkv files play with hw+ works on the hd+? Also I get around 8 hours of battery life watching a few episodes and reading with brightness at 25%, any idea what the nook would get? Oh and is there a full screen option that I can use Pie with?
The father day deal is almost to good to pass up and I can easily sell me N7 for $180 and pick this up.

FLASHnox said:
Hey guys I'm currently a nexus 7 owner thinking of picking up this device for it's 1080p screen, I just had a few questions. I basically use my N7 for watching anime and reading manga, so 2 things I really need is MXplayer and good battery life. Does anyone know if 10 bit mkv files play with hw+ works on the hd+? Also I get around 8 hours of battery life watching a few episodes and reading with brightness at 25%, any idea what the nook would get? Oh and is there a full screen option that I can use Pie with?
The father day deal is almost to good to pass up and I can easily sell me N7 for $180 and pick this up.
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I know this is an old question. But I'm going to answer this in hopes I can save someone else who stumbles across/google's this question while debating about getting one. since I felt I kinda just wasted money.
I just bought a 16GB Nook HD+, installed mx player with the Armv7 Neon Codec. (I've used other players but they all don't differ much in performance)
So far I'm slightly miffed because I have a Nook Color which I had been reliably using for 2 years (of course can't watch anime on it) but bought the HD+ in hopes that I could actually watch anime on it.
If you are watching anime that is mkv 8-bit encoded 720p h.264 anime, the Nook HD+ can handle it fine. Just make sure to use the HW+ decoder ONLY. SW and regular HW isn't smooth and de-syncs and stutters with movement.
If the anime is 10-bit 720p h.264 mkv, Dont even try. It can't play it at all. The HW+, HW, and SW decoders can't take it at all.
BTW to let you guys know what I was using as my test cases.
C^3 OP
Sola OP
True Tears OP
Mondaiji-tachi ga Isekai Kara Kuru Sō Desu yo? ED
Psycho-pass OP

4K Video player

Hi. I need a video player that can run 4k videos. Is there any? I have the exynos lte one. I know exynos kimits the video recording to 1080p but can it play 4K just like normal 1080p? If yes, any player which can do so? I have checked mx player pro it plays the video but its plays with too much stutter cant see nothing. Any player anyone can tell which can help??

Try the wondershare from Google Play
Sent from my C6906

tonybz said:
Try the wondershare from Google Play
Sent from my C6906
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nope its also not working. MX Player Pro is hands down the best player for android. its running the videos but with stutter. im sure this Exynos ****SET is the culprit here.
thats the reason why i and millions of other people like Snapdragon chipsets. they at least work great with great battery life and everything optimized. not like samsung. i might sell this crap soon getting only 3 hours of screen on time. and its just box opened brand new tablet. SAMSUNG DISAPPOINTED ME AGAIN, AND ITS THE LAST TIME I GOT SAMMY ****!
#RANT

aami.aami said:
nope its also not working. MX Player Pro is hands down the best player for android. its running the videos but with stutter. im sure this Exynos ****SET is the culprit here.
thats the reason why i and millions of other people like Snapdragon chipsets. they at least work great with great battery life and everything optimized. not like samsung. i might sell this crap soon getting only 3 hours of screen on time. and its just box opened brand new tablet. SAMSUNG DISAPPOINTED ME AGAIN, AND ITS THE LAST TIME I GOT SAMMY ****!
#RANT
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I think the exynos is great. I get great performance and battery life.

aami.aami said:
nope its also not working. MX Player Pro is hands down the best player for android. its running the videos but with stutter. im sure this Exynos ****SET is the culprit here.
thats the reason why i and millions of other people like Snapdragon chipsets. they at least work great with great battery life and everything optimized. not like samsung. i might sell this crap soon getting only 3 hours of screen on time. and its just box opened brand new tablet. SAMSUNG DISAPPOINTED ME AGAIN, AND ITS THE LAST TIME I GOT SAMMY ****!
#RANT
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Did you try changing it from HW to SW. May help.

As far as I know Exynos doesn't support hardware rendering of 4k video (only 2.5k).

How do you know which is which?
Kahun said:
I think the exynos is great. I get great performance and battery life.
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How can you tell which chipset you have? I was told this had a 4k screen and I intend to use it soon.

Claw22000 said:
How can you tell which chipset you have? I was told this had a 4k screen and I intend to use it soon.
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Use an app called CPUZ. It can tel you your device info and chipset.

Chipsets?
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Use an app called CPUZ. It can tel you your device info and chipset.
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So I have the Exynos Processor. How many different chipsets are there in the SM-T800? why would they make more than 1 kind under the same model? What are the main differences between them?
I know noobish but I would like to know. Thanks
DrClaw

Claw22000 said:
How can you tell which chipset you have? I was told this had a 4k screen and I intend to use it soon.
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We only have 2K screen... 2560x1600... if you download your videos in 2560x1440 they work flawless... 4K video will give you stutter no matter which player you use on this device... I've tried a bunch of them.

TheGoD said:
As far as I know Exynos doesn't support hardware rendering of 4k video (only 2.5k).
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I tried playing a few 4k videos on my SM-T800 galaxy tab s 10.5 (exynos) and for every file it stutters.
I've tried MX player - but it defaults to S/W decoding since H/W decoding isn't supported. Even though the format is H/W supported (H264), it just doesn't allow H/W decoding at these resolutions.
BS Player defaults to S/W too, as it shows 'S/W' when it displays the player properties.
Is there no current solution? Do we just sit and wait for H/W support to be enabled in the near future - or is it just too hardware intensive on the Exynos that no one will bother.

Can somebody explain why you are playing 4k video`s on a 2k+ tablet, is it just to see if they play correctly, are they just clips, a full 4k movie must be a big file.
I use the free handbrake software on my notebook, to convert and movies or series mostly animi to nHD which is 640x360 if i am going to keep them on my tablet, the higher the video resolution the more power the tablet needs to use to display them, so not only are 4k video are huge, they use a lot of battery life to play.
John.

It's just to see if the device can actually play 4k, and to see if hardware encoding even makes a difference.
Given that 4k will be more prevalent in the future, it's just testing to see if it will be able to handle the larger bitrates/files.
Most of my 4k clips are only about 2-4 minutes in length.

I wish my 10.5" could play in hardware the new h.265 format, as the video files can be up to half the size of the current h.264 version for the same quality, but it cannot, so it will have to be played back in software mode, oh well you cannot have everything, maybe it will take a while for H.265 to catch on.
John.

Yes. Freezing temporarily. I can not believe that no solution. Note 3 has same cpu, I look its forum but nothing found.

[Q] Just started researching today; few questions regarding movie watching

Just started researching this VR stuff today (no idea why), but I'm considering getting a VR for a Note 4. I'm not much of a gamer, so the primary use would be for watching 3D content and what not, but who knows if I'll get into the other stuff.
1. Do any of you solely use the Gear VR for movie watching? Is that your go to method of watching movies now?
2. I'm really not a fan of TouchWiz, and I've been reading that you can play 3D content using another 3rd party player. Is the 3D experience worse outside of the cinema app, or do you get the same immersion? Are any of you running alternate ROMs and happy with the Gear VR?
3. For 3D rips, obviously close to source is best. Are the ~2GB rips from torrent sites complete crap for the VR experience?
4. Is there anything in particular through hacking/experimenting that you found pretty cool?

I can only tell you for Gear VR 2 (Samsung S6), but Oculus Cinema should be the pretty same:
1) not sure. I watched for 2 hours 2d movie and the screen is too big (i think), you can not watch the whole screen at a time, at least not for details. If the movie uses cuts often, it is hard to adapt the new viewing angle that fast. Maybe with more training for myself...
2) you can use cardboard players (bad) or you have to recode 3d-sbs to 1920x520-sbs for example (so every side has right aspect ratio). Then you can play with mx-player but no lens correction. All cardboard players suffer on missing AC3 codec, needs to recode audio to mp3 or similar.
3) torrent site crap i do not know, use 1080p-sbs content (4-10 GB), that is good quality
4) Thats what we all are waiting for. At least an AC3-codec like for mx-player would be nice!

1) definitely not. Pixels (resolution) on such a huge virtual screen turned me off.

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Just started researching this VR stuff today (no idea why), but I'm considering getting a VR for a Note 4. I'm not much of a gamer, so the primary use would be for watching 3D content and what not, but who knows if I'll get into the other stuff.
1. Do any of you solely use the Gear VR for movie watching? Is that your go to method of watching movies now?
2. I'm really not a fan of TouchWiz, and I've been reading that you can play 3D content using another 3rd party player. Is the 3D experience worse outside of the cinema app, or do you get the same immersion? Are any of you running alternate ROMs and happy with the Gear VR?
3. For 3D rips, obviously close to source is best. Are the ~2GB rips from torrent sites complete crap for the VR experience?
4. Is there anything in particular through hacking/experimenting that you found pretty cool?
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1. Yes and no - have a 120" projector screen so the gear vr doesn't really compare. But it is great in those situations where you don't have the option of using a large screen, or you only have a small lcd tv at home. The movie experience is pretty great on the gear vr especially if you re-enode your Blu-ray to full-sbs 720p movies.
2. Yes it is worse, so for now the cinema app is the best app.
3. 2Gb anything is crap when it comes to full movies.
4. Just remove the cushioning in order to get a much larger fov!

2) Kodi beats Oculus cinema hands down with network and 2d support.

120hz mode not affecting games

hello! I just got my brand new ROG phone 2 today and have been testing my apps and games since then. Everything works normal, the 120hz screen is as buttery smooth as everyone says, but when playing games I just can't notice any real difference between playing with a regular 60hz phone and this one. I have very few knowledge about the topic but I understand that the refresh rate and the in-game fps are different, however I supposed that using the 120hz mode should also increase the number of fps shown by the in-game stats, but in every game I test it always shows 60fps at maximum. I use to play Brawl Stars (a relatively low graphics game) a lot, and I noticed they posted about the recent launch of an update specifically made to give support to the 120hz refresh rate on the ROG phone 2, but It just goes to 60fps. I already tried setting the refresh rate to 120hz in the armoury crate app for the games but saw no difference. Is there any configuration or tweak I'm missing?. Oh, and I got the 8/128GB Tencent version. Thanks for your help.

Mike845 said:
hello! I just got my brand new ROG phone 2 today and have been testing my apps and games since then. Everything works normal, the 120hz screen is as buttery smooth as everyone says, but when playing games I just can't notice any real difference between playing with a regular 60hz phone and this one. I have very few knowledge about the topic but I understand that the refresh rate and the in-game fps are different, however I supposed that using the 120hz mode should also increase the number of fps shown by the in-game stats, but in every game I test it always shows 60fps at maximum. I use to play Brawl Stars (a relatively low graphics game) a lot, and I noticed they posted about the recent launch of an update specifically made to give support to the 120hz refresh rate on the ROG phone 2, but It just goes to 60fps. I already tried setting the refresh rate to 120hz in the armoury crate app for the games but saw no difference. Is there any configuration or tweak I'm missing?. Oh, and I got the 8/128GB Tencent version. Thanks for your help.
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That's because the games are capped at 60FPS by the developers. So, even though your screen can go 120Hz, it'll only be as high as the game itself.
Try these 120Hz games:
Trials Frontier
Mortal Kombat
Gear Club
DEAD Trigger 2

zayidhs said:
That's because the games are capped at 60FPS by the developers. So, even though your screen can go 120Hz, it'll only be as high as the game itself.
Try these 120Hz games:
Trials Frontier
Mortal Kombat
Gear Club
DEAD Trigger 2
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Thank you. I tried with Trials Frontier and for my surprise it goes up to 120fps I wonder why even the one that comes preinstalled with the device (Asphalt 9) can't go over 60fps

Mike845 said:
Thank you. I tried with Trials Frontier and for my surprise it goes up to 120fps I wonder why even the one that comes preinstalled with the device (Asphalt 9) can't go over 60fps
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You're welcome.
Asphalt 9 is capped at 60FPS