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Hey guys,
Sorry to say but my laptop just died on me...
So im wondering about the capability of the nook color, which im using to write right now.
how does the ubuntu run compared to the honeycomb?
I am looking for msword capabilities and external keyboard capabilities especially.
thanks for all the inputs
I wish they'd get ubuntu netbook or jolicloud on the nook color
From what I recall they couldn't get wifi working on ubuntu last time I checked, not sure how progress has been on that front
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Particularly I am wondering how good ubuntu software that is already available to nook really is. i've never used ubuntu before.
on a side note, can anyone tell me if there is a way to boot straight into win7 from an external hard drive? a link would be nice since the internet on the nook is lacking, and having no undo button sucks too.
currently have the nook color running phiremod and samsung fascinate superclean, but no computer with sdk or adb access..
topikamew said:
Particularly I am wondering how good ubuntu software that is already available to nook really is. i've never used ubuntu before.
on a side note, can anyone tell me if there is a way to boot straight into win7 from an external hard drive? a link would be nice since the internet on the nook is lacking, and having no undo button sucks too.
currently have the nook color running phiremod and samsung fascinate superclean, but no computer with sdk or adb access..
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I haven't personally tried running ubuntu on the NC yet, but from the way I understand it, its not going to be a notebook replacement anytime soon.
If you really need to use the NC to replace a real PC at the moment, I'd be looking more in the direction of using dolphin browser and a bluetooth keyboard while running CM7.
On your sidenote, did just the HD on your pc die?
http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/21/seven-steps-to-a-bootable-windows-7-thumb-drive/
You will need a working PC to do it and IIRC you need win7 to make the drive bootable the way he describes, although it may be possible in vista, I don't recall.
FastCR said:
I haven't personally tried running ubuntu on the NC yet, but from the way I understand it, its not going to be a notebook replacement anytime soon.
If you really need to use the NC to replace a real PC at the moment, I'd be looking more in the direction of using dolphin browser and a bluetooth keyboard while running CM7.
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Yeah, once a release CM7 is nailed down with functional bluetooth and good compatibility with a couple of BT keyboards I could definitely see using the NC as a laptop replacement (just install a decent office app and you're good to go).
dsf3g said:
Yeah, once a release CM7 is nailed down with functional bluetooth and good compatibility with a couple of BT keyboards I could definitely see using the NC as a laptop replacement (just install a decent office app and you're good to go).
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Isn't that possible now.
Remember the Nook is a well specc'd Android e-book that just so happens is capable of being expanded to full Android tablet functionality. It is not a laptop replacement but can be used for light supplementary laptop like work.
So...
Watch Youtube
Watch ripped video's
Listen to music, Pandora etc
Email (Web based email such as Hotmail/Gmail as well as IMAP, POP3 and corporate Exchange email)
Browse the web (Flash currently sucks horribly when it can be made to work)
Read and do VERY basic creation and editing of MS Office docs through apps such as "Docs to Go"
Right now, using CM7 there is VERY limited BT connectivity available, we are taking 2-24 inches at best in range. There is NO USB hub functionality and no idea if that can even be enabled (although if anyone can get it to work it will be the CM7 guys...)
This is all a work in progress and to be honest if you're set on a touchscreen slate/tablet that can run Office apps, Outlook etc get a Win 7 built slate like the EXOPC etc.
I have ubuntu running on an older laptop and love it - I have a macbook air for my own use, wife and I each have dell windows laptops for work, son has a high end windows system for gaming - I'm very agnostic about computers.
I took one of my step-daughter's old windows laptops and repurposed it to ubuntu. Prior to the macbook air, this was my machine for personal use - android development, etc. Ubuntu is fiddlier than windows to get set up - finding the right driver's can take some effort - but I've found the performance you get from your hardware to be exceptional. There are a lot of good software solutions available on ubuntu now - open office has free software that largely replaces word, ppt, excel. Graphics are nice, chrome and firefox are both available and are very stable, and updating and maintenance aren't a big issue. My wife uses it now as her primary non-work computer - does all her options trading on it. I'd definitely look at ubuntu on an older machine if you don't require windows compatibility for work reasons. Unix was an amazing concept and its children have been very successful - linux, ubuntu (variation of linux), mac osX, iOS, android.
My macbook air though is by *far* the best computer I've ever owned, followed by the ubuntu laptop which shames my work dell laptop running windows XP. The macbook is incredibly stable and *fast* compared to my work laptop which is severely bogged down by corporate software. Office 2011 on my macbook is far faster than office 2010 on my windows laptop which has the faster processor. Windows doesn't have to be slow but gets severely clogged up very quickly.
The nook color is not a substitute for any of these. It really is suited for content consumption rather than creation - I wouldn't want to write a report on this. If I were strapped for money, I'd look for an inexpensive or used pc laptop. On the used one, I'd put on ubuntu.
Peter
I'm assuming the Nook Color is a little less powerful than my g tablet. That being said, I'd opt for a netbook, maybe one of the convertible ones if I needed to type anything but needed small size.
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Isn't that possible now.
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From what I've read, CM7 is still running nightly builds. No release version yet (or even release candidate).
everalm said:
Remember the Nook is a well specc'd Android e-book that just so happens is capable of being expanded to full Android tablet functionality. It is not a laptop replacement but can be used for light supplementary laptop like work.
So...
Watch Youtube
Watch ripped video's
Listen to music, Pandora etc
Email (Web based email such as Hotmail/Gmail as well as IMAP, POP3 and corporate Exchange email)
Browse the web (Flash currently sucks horribly when it can be made to work)
Read and do VERY basic creation and editing of MS Office docs through apps such as "Docs to Go"
Right now, using CM7 there is VERY limited BT connectivity available, we are taking 2-24 inches at best in range. There is NO USB hub functionality and no idea if that can even be enabled (although if anyone can get it to work it will be the CM7 guys...)
This is all a work in progress and to be honest if you're set on a touchscreen slate/tablet that can run Office apps, Outlook etc get a Win 7 built slate like the EXOPC etc.
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Yea i've done all of that, and everything works fine except msoffice capabilites and how good the bluetooth keyboard is thru wifi. Im typing thru slideit right now, and although the best keyboard so far for the nook, its function is limited by the screen which can register things one at a time not very fast.
I am not looking for another tablet, but something that can run win7 relatively fast. My computer died after me spilling hot water on it, nothing turns on so im thinking that the hdd isn't affected, only the power supply. My usb coincidentally has win7 on it but for installing. Ive heard of ubuntu bootable drives, anything for windows?
FastCR said:
I haven't personally tried running ubuntu on the NC yet, but from the way I understand it, its not going to be a notebook replacement anytime soon.
If you really need to use the NC to replace a real PC at the moment, I'd be looking more in the direction of using dolphin browser and a bluetooth keyboard while running CM7.
On your sidenote, did just the HD on your p
You will need a working PC to do it and IIRC you need win7 to make the drive bootable the way he describes, although it may be possible in vista, I don't recall.
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yea, I already have this usb installation disk, since I didnt have cds I could use. I am looking for an actual system I can just run off of an external drive. Anyone know about this kind of solution?
Running phiremod nook, which is the most comprehensive rom with cm7 also.
Can anyone share their ubuntu nook experience?
topikamew said:
I am looking for msword capabilities and external keyboard capabilities especially.
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Ubuntu is unusable for what you want, but CM7 + A Bluetooth keyboard + Quick Office HD from this thread will do what you want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934916&highlight=ink
I use it almost daily.
I have had this running on the Sony Arc and DHD. I am upgrading to Note soon so I thought I would post it here as Im sure it will work on the Note (my main reason for doing this).
Your Ubuntu, your way
Enjoy the simplicity of Ubuntu's stylish, intuitive interface. Fast, secure and with thousands of apps to choose from, Ubuntu gives you a clean and streamlined experience that you can really make your own.
Ubuntu is brilliant. It's no wonder our users ask how all this can be free. The answer is simple.It’s open source.
Our global community is made up of thousands of people who want to help build the best open-source operating system in the world. They share their time and skills to make sure that Ubuntu keeps getting better and better. From IBM to Google, Firefox to Wikipedia – some of today's best software is based on an open-source model. Shared efforts. Shared principles. No cost.
Why carry two devices, when you could carry only one? Your next high-end smartphone has far more horsepower than you’ll need on a phone, and more than enough for a laptop. So we’ve brought Android together with Ubuntu, the world’s favourite free operating system, to give you a full productivity desktop that fits in your pocket. Android for the phone experience, Ubuntu for the desktop, all on one device, running at the same time.
So forget the office PC. Just dock your corporate phone and enjoy Ubuntu. Anywhere. One address book. One set of bookmarks. One place for your text messages and email. No more typing on a tiny screen when all you want is a keyboard and a mouse. Seamless integration of your desktop and mobile worlds. Brilliant.
Why use Ubuntu?
Ubuntu is far more than an operating system. With thousands of applications to choose from, it’s completely free and easy to use.
Ubuntu is made for sharing. Use it, modify it, improve it, share it. Anywhere, any time and with any number of people all over the world. No licence required.
Ubuntu operating systems are regularly updated and come in a new, improved, easy-to-install release every six months, so you’re always up to date.
Ubuntu comes with all the support you need and powers the most popular computers - on servers, desktops, notebooks and netbooks and Android phones.
Ubuntu comes with a ready-made community dedicated to building and promoting free systems and software. Join us.
Here is a excellent video from XDA TV at WMC 2012 YOU MUST WATCH THIS: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kipBNiBtjmQ&hd=1
OK now that I’ve got that over and done with, I have got the Android software to run on our Arc, It is actually runs on the same Android kernel as Android , which means you can run Ubuntu and switch to Android and back to Ubuntu.
This is a large image and with the problem with hosts I have decided to upgrade my dropbox account, so that the download will be simple and because of that I will not have a download count, so if you download please click thanks and this will give me an idea of how many downloads have been.
Requirements: Root access also this will only run on external sdcard.
Installation:
You have to download Android VNC viewer free from the market also the terminal app, So first download https://rapidshare.com/files/1497399130/UBUNTU.rar
preferably on your computers and unzip it to a folder on your desktop called UBUNTU, then copy the folder onto the root of the root of your sdcard, that’s it
Now open your terminal and type (_=space)
$Su
#cd_/sdcard/ubuntu
#sh_ubuntu.sh
That’s it may take a while to complete, have a cup of coffee.
Now open vnc viwer
Nickname : ubuntu
Password :ubuntu
Address : localhost
Port :5900
Colour format :24-bit color
Just press connect and that’s you with Ubuntu, I use OTG cable for wireless keyboard and mouse dongle and HDMI cable to my tv, I now have a 43 inch tv computer which works great with keyboard and mouse.
Remember if you download please tick thanks.
Or if you want to buy me a cold beer just klick the donate button.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think you can run both the OTG and MHL adapter at the same time. You'd need to use a bluetooth keyboard / mouse to have input and HDMI at the same time.
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cant download :-(
Error (509)
This account's public links are generating too much traffic and have been temporarily disabled!
This looks amazing i really want to try this ! PM a link to the file and i can host this on my dedicated box for you
chrstndsgnr said:
I could be wrong, but I don't think you can run both the OTG and MHL adapter at the same time. You'd need to use a bluetooth keyboard / mouse to have input and HDMI at the same time.
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Works on the Arc hope it works on the note
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Can you, please, give another DL link?
briandevlin said:
Works on the Arc hope it works on the note
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I checked out the specs for the Arc. It looks like it has a dedicated HDMI port, so both the OTG and HDMI are plugged in to the phone itself at the same time.
However, the way the Note achieves HDMI out is through the use of an MHL adapter that plugs into the usb port, same as the OTG.
I believe only one may be used at any given time.
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This thread is one BIG tease !!
could you upload it somewhere else? greetings!
briandevlin said:
I have had this running on the Sony Arc and DHD. I am upgrading to Note soon so I thought I would post it here as Im sure it will work on the Note (my main reason for doing this).
Your Ubuntu, your way
Enjoy the simplicity of Ubuntu's stylish, intuitive interface. Fast, secure and with thousands of apps to choose from, Ubuntu gives you a clean and streamlined experience that you can really make your own.
Ubuntu is brilliant. It's no wonder our users ask how all this can be free. The answer is simple.It’s open source.
Our global community is made up of thousands of people who want to help build the best open-source operating system in the world. They share their time and skills to make sure that Ubuntu keeps getting better and better. From IBM to Google, Firefox to Wikipedia – some of today's best software is based on an open-source model. Shared efforts. Shared principles. No cost.
Why carry two devices, when you could carry only one? Your next high-end smartphone has far more horsepower than you’ll need on a phone, and more than enough for a laptop. So we’ve brought Android together with Ubuntu, the world’s favourite free operating system, to give you a full productivity desktop that fits in your pocket. Android for the phone experience, Ubuntu for the desktop, all on one device, running at the same time.
So forget the office PC. Just dock your corporate phone and enjoy Ubuntu. Anywhere. One address book. One set of bookmarks. One place for your text messages and email. No more typing on a tiny screen when all you want is a keyboard and a mouse. Seamless integration of your desktop and mobile worlds. Brilliant.
Why use Ubuntu?
Ubuntu is far more than an operating system. With thousands of applications to choose from, it’s completely free and easy to use.
Ubuntu is made for sharing. Use it, modify it, improve it, share it. Anywhere, any time and with any number of people all over the world. No licence required.
Ubuntu operating systems are regularly updated and come in a new, improved, easy-to-install release every six months, so you’re always up to date.
Ubuntu comes with all the support you need and powers the most popular computers - on servers, desktops, notebooks and netbooks and Android phones.
Ubuntu comes with a ready-made community dedicated to building and promoting free systems and software. Join us.
Here is a excellent video from XDA TV at WMC 2012 YOU MUST WATCH THIS: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kipBNiBtjmQ&hd=1
OK now that I’ve got that over and done with, I have got the Android software to run on our Arc, It is actually runs on the same Android kernel as Android , which means you can run Ubuntu and switch to Android and back to Ubuntu.
This is a large image and with the problem with hosts I have decided to upgrade my dropbox account, so that the download will be simple and because of that I will not have a download count, so if you download please click thanks and this will give me an idea of how many downloads have been.
Requirements: Root access also this will only run on external sdcard.
Installation:
You have to download Android VNC viewer free from the market also the terminal app, So first download http://db.tt/FWUH4mhC
preferably on your computers and unzip it to a folder on your desktop called UBUNTU, then copy the folder onto the root of the root of your sdcard, that’s it
Now open your terminal and type (_=space)
$Su
#cd_/sdcard/ubuntu
#sh_ubuntu.sh
That’s it may take a while to complete, have a cup of coffee.
Now open vnc viwer
Nickname : ubuntu
Password :ubuntu
Address : localhost
Port :5900
Colour format :24-bit color
Just press connect and that’s you with Ubuntu, I use OTG cable for wireless keyboard and mouse dongle and HDMI cable to my tv, I now have a 43 inch tv computer which works great with keyboard and mouse.
Remember if you download please tick thanks.
Or if you want to buy me a cold beer just klick the donate button.
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There is a app on the market called ubuntu installet that walks u through step by step and with links to download files for ubuntu work for my note
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And... you needed to quote the entire OP to say that... clever.
Oh btw. MHL and OTG at the same time is a no go for note. Bluetooth keyboard and mouse Is needed.
Only have 1 USB out and MHL adapters need power. So that power comes from the miniusb on the adapter you plug in the charger in.
So the fact remains. Bluetooth keyboard and mouse is the only way to go.
| GalaxyNote ICS | Tapatalk |
Thanks for your work. Would it always be necessary to connect to an external monitor? The screen size on the Galaxy Note would be sufficient for many cases. In other words, just running Ubuntu on Galaxy Note with BTKB and mouse would be cool.
Intall "ubuntu installer" from market and follow instructions. You will have a ubuntu 12.4 running on Note. Of course you need a bluetooth mouse and keyboard plus MHL for better experience.
Original Note thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405447 from creator in apps section.
This is misleading, and has existed for some time on various devices as the chroot Ubuntu install method. This means you access a chrooted Ubuntu under android through vncviewer, and is sloooow. The only difference now is the idea of exporting the display to an hdmi monitor...
Much of the text in the opening post seems taken from Ubuntu's webpage about their new 'Ubuntu for Android' concept, which is being marketed to OEM's to have Ubuntu installed side by side android by default, and to switch automagically to Ubuntu when plugged into an hdmi monitor... to my knowledge, this has yet to be released to the community.
I think following the advice in this post is great, but lets call this what it is folks, the Ubuntu chroot method. I would request for the mods to move this to the 'General Advice' area, rather than development.
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exactly. more info on ubuntu for android:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
this will kick-ass!
mscion said:
Thanks for your work. Would it always be necessary to connect to an external monitor? The screen size on the Galaxy Note would be sufficient for many cases. In other words, just running Ubuntu on Galaxy Note with BTKB and mouse would be cool.
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No you can just use the phone
cant find sdcard
i got ics with leaked chinese and teamrocket rom, when i give Su in terminal console it works but then cd_/sdcard/ubuntu cant find it even if i give cd_/sdcard/external_sd/ubuntu doesnt work i extract the 2 files in the folder but terminal console cant find them
ERROR on Rocket Rom V22
VNC Connection faild!
localhost/::1:5900 - connection refused
I think this work only on Rooted Stock rom
Hello fellow sim pilots. I'd like to announce that my brand new company, Touch Pilot, is looking for beta testers for our new tablet app. The app allows you to adjust your throttle, mixture, prop, landing gear, flaps, and more with just a tap. Now you don't have to remember all those keyboard commands. It works with any simulator or game running on a Windows PC. It especially works with FSX. It works by emulating a joystick on your PC, and transmits your inputs over WiFi. You map the controls just like you would on a regular joystick. There's a server component that you run on your PC, and of course the tablet app that runs on an iPad or Android tablet. You can sign up for the beta by visiting the link below. Looking forward to hearing your feedback!
http://gettouchpilot.com
Cheers,
Ben @ TP
here's a new background we're trying out. what do you think?
Interesting project! I'm not a flight sim fan but would be cool to see how models like this would be able to interact with other games.
CaveManDave said:
Interesting project! I'm not a flight sim fan but would be cool to see how models like this would be able to interact with other games.
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thanks dave! we have more apps coming soon that will work with other types of games, like driving games.
we need more android testers, so we're opening the beta up to all android users. if you have an android tablet, just email me at ben at touchpilot dot net. tell me what tablet you have, which version of windows you use (including 32 vs 64 bit) and what sims you fly. thanks!
Interesting concept indeed!
I would like to see an option to control flightsim through usb connection also (I use wifi only with my laptop) if there isn't too much extra work.
Also, are you going to support just tablets? UI for phones would be great!
Ben74 said:
thanks dave! we have more apps coming soon that will work with other types of games, like driving games.
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i would like to see one soon
ill try this out tonight
mikpel said:
Interesting concept indeed!
I would like to see an option to control flightsim through usb connection also (I use wifi only with my laptop) if there isn't too much extra work.
Also, are you going to support just tablets? UI for phones would be great!
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hi. sorry, usb connections are not in our plans. i feel it would be too much work and would cause too many support issues to deal with. all that for a feature that 1% of our users might actually use.
we might create a version for phones. some buttons would have to be removed to make it all fit.
btw, Touch Pilot One is now available on the iTunes AppStore, Google Play, and Amazon!
Hi, this is probably in the wrong section.
Does anyone manufacture a head unit running Linux, something for which I can just download a debian ARM iso and install from a usb stick/sd card? From what I can find it seems not to be the case. Why not? Why is android so prevalent?
I also have a question. I just bought an E46 with an eonon GA5150 which is MTCB-KLD-v2.30. I updated from 4.2.2 to 4.4.4 with Malaysk's ROM, but not the MCU, and now audio doesn't work at all. How should I begin to troubleshoot this issue?
Thanks, to a community I should have joined many years ago.
Answer to the first question is...um...well Android is running a Linux kernal...so...you can make the case it's running Linux (or a forky version at least).
As far as running Debian ARM on the typical SoC in these head units, I think it's very likely possible...if you are willing to write the drivers or chase them down (if they exist). And configure the system...it's not a super mountain to climb, but I doubt it's something that already exist. At least in binary format that you could put on an a USB key and install.
In fact, you would have to create a custom Debian build, most likely, and use a bootloader that is normally setup for Android (guessing on that one) to install it. There is no technical reason it should not work, just no one has bothered to do it. We already have Android, what does Debian Linux buy us?
Why run Android? Well, it's because that's where the focus of the development effort is for the kinds of apps you would most likely want to use in a car. My opinion is that's why these head units exist in the first place. The vast number of really good (and admittedly incredible number of poor) apps already exist...let's tap into them!
If you really want to run Linux in the car for some reason or another, there are other options out there...might look for "carputers" or "car PCs". I think a lot of folks who are determined to run Open Source car computers are now running Raspberry Pi (or similar) SBCs..seems to be a lot of that type of projects on Google, when you do a search.
On the second question...about your head unit's ROM issues, I defer to the experts on here.
fortune80211 said:
Hi, this is probably in the wrong section.
Does anyone manufacture a head unit running Linux, something for which I can just download a debian ARM iso and install from a usb stick/sd card? From what I can find it seems not to be the case. Why not? Why is android so prevalent?
I also have a question. I just bought an E46 with an eonon GA5150 which is MTCB-KLD-v2.30. I updated from 4.2.2 to 4.4.4 with Malaysk's ROM, but not the MCU, and now audio doesn't work at all. How should I begin to troubleshoot this issue?
Thanks, to a community I should have joined many years ago.
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Yeah, @tbd2k2 is right - Android IS Linux, albeit one that uses a very old Linux kernel (google is trying to rectify this but its gonna take years).
There are versions of Ubuntu (Debian based) that run on RK3188 devices, so I m sure someone who is experienced enough could make an Ubuntu ROM for MTCB/C units, but it would involve making all the MTC apps work with it too.
Thank you
What exactly are the mtc apps? What are they needed for? (Do you have a link I can read?) What kind of drivers would I need to write and how would I find what they are if I were to attempt something like this myself?
The reason I ask is that it seems to me that it's very difficult to update software on these head units. It takes a very specialised piece of software and it's impossible to keep up to date.
If these head units were just generic arm PCs then people could install whatever they wanted. I agree that most people would want to install android, but even then the situation would be simpler. Aren't these head units just 12V DC in, audio and video out with additional drivers for GPS, WiFi etc?.
fortune80211 said:
Thank you
What exactly are the mtc apps? What are they needed for? (Do you have a link I can read?) What kind of drivers would I need to write and how would I find what they are if I were to attempt something like this myself?
The reason I ask is that it seems to me that it's very difficult to update software on these head units. It takes a very specialised piece of software and it's impossible to keep up to date.
If these head units were just generic arm PCs then people could install whatever they wanted. I agree that most people would want to install android, but even then the situation would be simpler. Aren't these head units just 12V DC in, audio and video out with additional drivers for GPS, WiFi etc?.
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Read the wiki in my signature, it will answer all your questions.
"Very difficult to update" ? - what makes you think that ? - its as easy as you like - put update on sd card go to settings/updates hit "update", or hold down power and reset, release reset, release power to get into recovery and install update by clicking on it, very easy.
Sorry, I didn't mean in that sense.
I mean that if you want to run something obscure, it's not possible. If you want to run an app that only runs on later versions of android, it's not possible. The actual installation is as easy as can be, but you are limited to a small selection of android ROMs.
I realise that it's the way it is for a reason and I'm very grateful to the community of developers here who have contributed so much. I'm just looking for something different and wouldn't mind a project for myself.
Thanks
EDIT: Also, recently Linux operating systems (Ubuntu), and even windows are moving toward touchscreens. There's a huge amount of present and future development effort we could tap into if our hardware was compatible.
I have been a Unix/Linux IT professional for more than 25 years, and it also happens that electronics is my hobby, and I have build many things in recent years powered by Linux using the great new small boards such as Rasbperry Pi's, Beaglebone, Orange, etc.. including weather stations, wall clocks/electronic displays, radio receivers, etc.
BUT, Even I would not use a generic Linux system in place of these purpose built android devices. Using android which has a wealth of high quality apps dedicated to mobile device use for GPS, Maps, media, etc is infinitely more practical.
fortune80211 said:
Sorry, I didn't mean in that sense.
I mean that if you want to run something obscure, it's not possible. If you want to run an app that only runs on later versions of android, it's not possible.
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Are you talking about apps not showing up in the Playstore or not installing when sideloaded ?
fortune80211 said:
The actual installation is as easy as can be, but you are limited to a small selection of android ROMs.
I realise that it's the way it is for a reason and I'm very grateful to the community of developers here who have contributed so much. I'm just looking for something different and wouldn't mind a project for myself.
EDIT: Also, recently Linux operating systems (Ubuntu), and even windows are moving toward touchscreens. There's a huge amount of present and future development effort we could tap into if our hardware was compatible.
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nixfu said:
I have been a Unix/Linux IT professional for more than 25 years, and it also happens that electronics is my hobby, and I have build many things in recent years powered by Linux using the great new small boards such as Rasbperry Pi's, Beaglebone, Orange, etc.. including weather stations, wall clocks/electronic displays, radio receivers, etc.
BUT, Even I would not use a generic Linux system in place of these purpose built android devices. Using android which has a wealth of high quality apps dedicated to mobile device use for GPS, Maps, media, etc is infinitely more practical.
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I ve been using Ubuntu since 2009 and I ve been following the development of Ubuntu Touch for phones/tablets for a while as well - I d love it but until someone gets ART running on Ubuntu Touch so you can use Touch apps (which can also run on Ubuntu desktops) AND Android apps, I wont be using it (and I dont think many others will either) for precisely the reason that @nixfu says - I dont wanna loose access to all the apps available for android.
nixfu said:
I have been a Unix/Linux IT professional for more than 25 years, and it also happens that electronics is my hobby, and I have build many things in recent years powered by Linux using the great new small boards such as Rasbperry Pi's, Beaglebone, Orange, etc.. including weather stations, wall clocks/electronic displays, radio receivers, etc.
BUT, Even I would not use a generic Linux system in place of these purpose built android devices. Using android which has a wealth of high quality apps dedicated to mobile device use for GPS, Maps, media, etc is infinitely more practical.
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Look at this one: https://www.stepstone.de/stellenang...d-Unit-f-m-Ulm-BMW-Group--4333376-inline.html
BMW is obviously trying to work on exactly that; trying to professionally use Linux for Car Entertainment
I've pulled apart the system image for the 2016 and 2017 Kenwood units and it's just a QT app on top of the Linux kernel.
Sony's XAV-AX100 is the same and i'm pretty sure the new Pioneers are the same now they've dumped Android.
Once you stop them booting into the GUI app and get a console, you've got a Linux system with good enough hardware to play with.
All three also have sites where you can get the code for things like the kernel that they have to make available.
leonkernan said:
I've pulled apart the system image for the 2016 and 2017 Kenwood units and it's just a QT app on top of the Linux kernel.
Sony's XAV-AX100 is the same and i'm pretty sure the new Pioneers are the same now they've dumped Android.
Once you stop them booting into the GUI app and get a console, you've got a Linux system with good enough hardware to play with.
All three also have sites where you can get the code for things like the kernel that they have to make available.
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Sounds great, I guess you could even run Android apps on them as you can do that on a Linux desktop.
Google search i-carus (raspberry pi based)
Give that a go
So I am stuck in a dilemma. Ive switched roms so many times I still don't know which way to go.
I want to us Android Auto. But I want to natively run my Uber/Lyft driver apps on the main screen. I dont want to involve the use of a typical phone or tablet. I have 2 Raspberry Pi's. An 8gb and a 2gb. I have a Sim7600G-H cell/gps module. I have 2 mcp2515 can modules on the spi bus.
I have 10" screen and a 4" screen.
Ah, but it gets better. I also have a number of arduinos in the equation too. These will control lights and servos. All custom programmed in python to operate over i2c.
I think im sticking with the Open Auto Pro method as my main screen. But i'm not sure. I love the car launcher apps that are available on android so they would look cool as the main screen too. Not sold on Kodi as a launcher option.
So I open the floor to debate. Android as a main app and run linux as secondary? Or run Open Auto Pro (linux) as main and android (LineageOS or OmniRom) as secondary?
same question in my head because of another reason:
I have a carplay-dongle and bought Pi4 to use it. I can use it with LineageOS or openauto pro. I tried with an android-tablet but had some problems and decided to do it with raspberry.
Both of them has similar functions:
Integrated music player
Display OBD-II data
Plugin CarPlay Autobox for OpenAuto Pro
Navigation with Android Auto™ head unit emulation
Multi-langugage support
Benefits of LineageOS:
is free and you will get free updates all time.
Your android-apk will also updated all time.
Android developed and optimised for light hardware. A PI4 4GB will a really good hardware-base.
Openauto Pro:
It is developed as a car head unit. User interface, community, supports... All of them for same purpose. If you have a specific problem like wheel-controller or power on-off etc... It is easier than only-android. You can run not only apk's, also linux packages.
You get free-updates only one year. You have to buy Carplay-Plugin separately. Maybe this plugin will not works next year with IOS-16. I don't know, if I get a free update or not.
Other issue of it cpu-memory usage: Debian-OS is developed for a Desktop-PC and a Pi4-4GB is a thin hardware for this os.
My Wish-List:
DAB-Radio support
TSR (Traffic sign recognisition)
Lane Assistant
Both system does not have a built in solution for FM-Radio, TSR or Lane Assistent. But you can use Android-Apps on both systems.
I will try first with LineageOS and maybe some android-apps too. If it is not enought, I can buy Openauto and use bought apps on it too.