Why Android 5? - Galaxy Note 4 General

I am the only one not interested in upgrading to Lollipop? I'm a big fan of Xposed, especially App Settings, as I do not like the standard DPI.
With the introduction of ART runtime, Xposed does not work. It does not look that likely that it will work anytime soon. This is have a big impact on my ability to customize my N910H.

I'm also a big fan of app settings, but that won't affect me changing the dpi, everything can be modded manually and flashed just like older days and enjoy the lower dpi values
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bala_gamer said:
I'm also a big fan of app settings, but that won't affect me changing the dpi, everything can be modded manually and flashed just like older days and enjoy the lower dpi values
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Thanks. I've admired your mods from my Note 2 days. As I haven't seen any DPI modded apps for the Note 4 I was getting concerned.
So you think that setting the system to, say, 420DPI, will not be a problem? Modded apps will appear for In Call UI, Lockscreen, Calc etc etc?

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Thanks. I've admired your mods from my Note 2 days. As I haven't seen any DPI modded apps for the Note 4 I was getting concerned.
So you think that setting the system to, say, 420DPI, will not be a problem? Modded apps will appear for In Call UI, Lockscreen, Calc etc etc?
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yes, it can be done. without xposed manual mods will be back in action

SO how does one change the dpi for apps without app settings?
I just need it for root explorer, gmail and chrome.

I imagine A5 will give us a bit more smooth trip with TW. Not even Samsung can mishandle A5 that much I hope I love xposed but I love a smooth and micro lag free ride even more.

my estimate is that when the big manufacturers (samsung/lg/motorola/etc) all finish updating their mid to top range smartphones to lollipop(lets say in samsung case for example: S4, note 3, S5, note 4) exposed will come with it as well. right now maybe 0.1% of all android devices have android 5.0, so I can see why the dev working on it taking his time as there is simply not high enough demand for it. (one of the reason i'm not upgrading to 5.0 too atm)

tal123 said:
my estimate is that when the big manufacturers (samsung/lg/motorola/etc) all finish updating their mid to top range smartphones to lollipop(lets say in samsung case for example: S4, note 3, S5, note 4) exposed will come with it as well. right now maybe 0.1% of all android devices have android 5.0, so I can see why the dev working on it taking his time as there is simply not high enough demand for it. (one of the reason i'm not upgrading to 5.0 too atm)
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From what I've read it might be impossible to get ART working with xposed. I too am happy to wait, but we might never get xposed with A5
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Hell I'm bored to death with Android honestly

liquidguru said:
I am the only one not interested in upgrading to Lollipop? I'm a big fan of Xposed, especially App Settings, as I do not like the standard DPI.
With the introduction of ART runtime, Xposed does not work. It does not look that likely that it will work anytime soon. This is have a big impact on my ability to customize my N910H.
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I am also very happy with Android 4.4.4, its got very little bugs, incredibly stable and efficient, all I want is further optimising of power usage and app optimisation, thats all I ask for, but hey, this is how tech works, got to moving, and the great thing in 5.0 is ART, apps should run faster, better audio, better memory management, etc etc...I am not in a rush, I am glad we will be getting 5.0.1 and not the buggy 5.0

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I am also very happy with Android 4.4.4, its got very little bugs, incredibly stable and efficient, all I want is further optimising of power usage and app optimisation, thats all I ask for, but hey, this is how tech works, got to moving, and the great thing in 5.0 is ART, apps should run faster, better audio, better memory management, etc etc...I am not in a rush, I am glad we will be getting 5.0.1 and not the buggy 5.0
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Yep agree on that. Lollipop definately has some improvements over 4.4.4. Although 4.4.4 is really running perfectly.
I will be looking forward to 5.1 though, as 5.0.1 is not yet perfect...still has some bugs.

I thought I was the only one thinking like this because all I've been seeing is hype ? but reading through your comments got me thinking about actually upgrading to Lollipop... I love Xposed to the point I can't live without it but if 5.0.1 is THAT great... Idk anymore.
Also, does anyone know if there's an official forum or something here on xda for all this xposed situation?
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caaanaya said:
I thought I was the only one thinking like this because all I've been seeing is hype ? but reading through your comments got me thinking about actually upgrading to Lollipop... I love Xposed to the point I can't live without it but if 5.0.1 is THAT great... Idk anymore.
Also, does anyone know if there's an official forum or something here on xda for all this xposed situation?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52288979&postcount=3

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52288979&postcount=3
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Thanks!!

caaanaya said:
I thought I was the only one thinking like this because all I've been seeing is hype ? but reading through your comments got me thinking about actually upgrading to Lollipop... I love Xposed to the point I can't live without it but if 5.0.1 is THAT great... Idk anymore.
Also, does anyone know if there's an official forum or something here on xda for all this xposed situation?
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I'm sure A5 will be great, but sure that that it will great enough to give up xposed, at least until there are alternatives for tweaking the UI. Xposed has its own forum on XDA. At present there doesn't seem much hope for getting it to work with A5.
Edit: Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed
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liquidguru said:
I am the only one not interested in upgrading to Lollipop? I'm a big fan of Xposed, especially App Settings, as I do not like the standard DPI.
With the introduction of ART runtime, Xposed does not work. It does not look that likely that it will work anytime soon. This is have a big impact on my ability to customize my N910H.
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I was using xposed on my stock rooted rom but had a huge battery drain, didn't find out why, anyway i started using X-Note on my N910H and its amazing, multi dpi without xposed, no battery drain and lots and lots of mods, amazing rom, i have no complaints at all :fingers-crossed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/development/xnote-v3-0-n910c-port-t2977944

Lollipop is awesome. I just put it on my mates sm-n910f, and we were looking at Google cardboard vr apps....
They were running at close to TWICE!! the frame rate that they were running at on KitKat touchwiz. Unbelievable.
The UI is noticeably much smoother too. Highly recommended. More than that, it's an absolute must have IMO..
I've got it on my s4 also, and there's not a thing I can do with it to make it skip a single frame anywhere. Love it.

knuckles1978 said:
Lollipop is awesome. I just put it on my mates sm-n910f, and we were looking at Google cardboard vr apps....
They were running at close to TWICE!! the frame rate that they were running at on KitKat touchwiz. Unbelievable.
The UI is noticeably much smoother too. Highly recommended. More than that, it's an absolute must have IMO..
I've got it on my s4 also, and there's not a single thing I can do that will make it skip a single frame anywhere. Love it.
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Thanks. I hope there will be similar benefits when it hits our N4.

Related

Android L leaked for Samsung Galaxy S5

http://www.phonehorn.com/2014/10/android-l-leaked-samsung-galaxy-s5
Looks like Samsung is getting ready to update the beast as soon as Google unveils Android L to public and has started internal testing. Do watch the video preview and visit source for more info. Sorry for no download links as its very buggy and unstable currently
Well, IMHO, I can't see a big difference, but thats because of TW
I like the animations, wonder why the statusbar isn't changing color like the action bar (probably a bug)
More excited for the roms to come.
Touchwiz just ruins it for me.
Rom leak? Or only video
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Rom leak? Or only video
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Just a video. Very buggy and laggy atm.
I've never had strong feelings about TW one way or the other, but that may be because I just picked up my first Samsung phone a few months ago. I'm really looking forward to seeing the changes in L.
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If there will be no GPE with L I'll switch to Nexus 6
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They probably will..... 8 months from now....but I'll be right there with you bro in the nexus 6 forums I just can't wait that long if I already waited so long for aosp on this phone, I just gotta see the phone in person, I never really liked the note series due to its massive size, but if It feels comfortable in the hand I will definitely make the jump, if not nexus 5... S5 had so much potential to be a better phone but with all these damn bugs (battery drainage on idle, audio issues when recording a video, choppy video for 1080p, whatsapp mic still sounds too low)...and Samsung not releasing the right source codes this phone was a disaster... Nothing compared to the s4 forums... *sigh's*
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Awww Jesus Christ!!!!!! Wtf!!! See I knew it! And some ppl over at my thread "Android L and Touch Wiz" were doubting Samsung wouldn't ruin it! See I just knew it, how in the F$%& would android L still be present if they got their damn skin over it! Where are the shadows? The animated clicks? Where is the depth for f#%$ sakeeeee!!!! And then there's always AOSP tho right?...smh you know how long that's gonna take to get running on our phoneeeee?!?! Aosp 4.4.4 took like 5 months... Now imagine android L for CyanogenMod... Guess I'm gonna just have to sell my phone... *sighs*
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They probably will..... 8 months from now....but I'll be right there with you bro in the nexus 6 forums I just can't wait that long if I already waited so long for aosp on this phone, I just gotta see the phone in person, I never really liked the note series due to its massive size, but if It feels comfortable in the hand I will definitely make the jump, if not nexus 5... S5 had so much potential to be a better phone but with all these damn bugs (battery drainage on idle, audio issues when recording a video, choppy video for 1080p, whatsapp mic still sounds too low)...and Samsung not releasing the right source codes this phone was a disaster... Nothing compared to the s4 forums... *sigh's*
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you are entirely too emotionally attached to this. your grief mirrors that what you see on the news when they show syrian refugees mourning
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you are entirely too emotionally attached to this. your grief mirrors that what you see on the news when they show syrian refugees mourning
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I'm just bothered that all this waiting is always for nothing, and we paid a valued amount for a great spec'd phone but we can't get the best out of it, for f$!# sake is processor (801) is newer than the nexus 5 (800 chip) but the N5 is faster. ..WTF!!! so the reason they feed us this crap is because we are OK with it, so Samsung just keeps screwing us in the a$$ cold, how we pay more for a phone that isn't better than a nexus, and it could of all been better without that TW S!#/ they put in there.... but... we're OK with it... right? Because it's just a phone... right?
That's not the case with nexus phones because they rooooock!!!!! Plus it's made by a younger generation (google)
i find the s5 on touchwiz fine. some apps i personally dont like the look of so i replace with stock kitkat ones. but i dont have any slowdown
I don't like TW eighter, but to sell my phone for it ? Don't think so....
I just installed Go Launcher Ex (my favorite launcher for years already) and remove all the bloatware with Titanium Backup which I don't need or want.
Result : clean rom to my likings
Slicktune said:
F/$# touch wiz! !!!!! Fawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwk!!! Why are we accepting thissss!!!!!!!! Why do we settle for laggggggggg why!!!! we can't get too comfortable!!!
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Simple install any aosp rom.
matheus_sc said:
Simple install any aosp rom.
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Audio issues still persist (low audio on what's app voice messages, and low audio when recording a video) along with battery drainage when idle, wish it was that simple bro.....
Slicktune said:
F/$# touch wiz! !!!!! Fawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwk!!! Why are we accepting thissss!!!!!!!! Why do we settle for laggggggggg why!!!! we can't get too comfortable!!!
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So why did you buy an S5 if you knew you hated TouchWiz and the "lag" (I don't even have any lag on my S5, and my last phone was a Nexus).
Do you people buy Samsung phones just to complain about them? Buy a different brand, it's really not so hard.
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F/$# touch wiz! !!!!! Fawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwk!!! Why are we accepting thissss!!!!!!!! Why do we settle for laggggggggg why!!!! we can't get too comfortable!!!
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protip: Open S voice, go to settings, disable home activation, disable S voice. Congratulations. You have the smoothness of an AOSP ROM without the stupid bugs.
Ohmigosh, the passion...
Got a Note 3 with close to stock ROM. Modding it made it feel and look really not like TouchWiz. No lag, no s**t.
Imagine the Google Launcher when it gets L updated.
Imagine what Wanam's wonders are going to look like after he gets hold on L TouchWiz.
Also, reports claim that even the dev preview of L gets better battery life on the Nexus 5, so AOSP is going to be even better.
Calm your whatevers-that-make-you-mad and be happy that you have first world problems.
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Awww Jesus Christ!!!!!! Wtf!!! See I knew it! And some ppl over at my thread "Android L and Touch Wiz" were doubting Samsung wouldn't ruin it! See I just knew it, how in the F$%& would android L still be present if they got their damn skin over it! Where are the shadows? The animated clicks? Where is the depth for f#%$ sakeeeee!!!! And then there's always AOSP tho right?...smh you know how long that's gonna take to get running on our phoneeeee?!?! Aosp 4.4.4 took like 5 months... Now imagine android L for CyanogenMod... Guess I'm gonna just have to sell my phone... *sighs*
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You sound like a 5 yr old that didn't get her way. Stop whining, complaining and b*tching. It looks finee to me. Plus it's still in ALPHA STAGE....
Slicktune said:
Awww Jesus Christ!!!!!! Wtf!!! See I knew it! And some ppl over at my thread "Android L and Touch Wiz" were doubting Samsung wouldn't ruin it! See I just knew it, how in the F$%& would android L still be present if they got their damn skin over it! Where are the shadows? The animated clicks? Where is the depth for f#%$ sakeeeee!!!! And then there's always AOSP tho right?...smh you know how long that's gonna take to get running on our phoneeeee?!?! Aosp 4.4.4 took like 5 months... Now imagine android L for CyanogenMod... Guess I'm gonna just have to sell my phone... *sighs*
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you sound mad. why didn't you buy a nexus instead?
bloodrain954 said:
you sound mad. why didn't you buy a nexus instead?
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cause his personal tastes should be universal standard. didnt you know?

Living without Xposed...

Hi. I'm thinking of getting a Nexus 6. One thing I'm curious is how are people coping with not have Xposed modules. Are you depending on custom roms and themes to make up the difference? Currently on my Note Edge I use App Settings, Heads Up Notifications, Multiwindow plus. Notifly Clean, Swipeback and YouTube Adaway among others. For example App Settings really comes in handy for changing look of apps and such (can give more of a tablet UI). I'd especially like to hear from folks that heavily used Xposed in the past to get their impressions. Anyways, I might get a N6 or wait a bit more to see what comes out at CES. Thanks!
mscion said:
Hi. I'm thinking of getting a Nexus 6. One thing I'm curious is how are people coping with not have Xposed modules. Are you depending on custom roms and themes to make up the difference? Currently on my Note Edge I use App Settings, Heads Up Notifications, Multiwindow plus. Notifly Clean, Swipeback and YouTube Adaway among others. For example App Settings really comes in handy for changing look of apps and such (can give more of a tablet UI). I'd especially like to hear from folks that heavily used Xposed in the past to get their impressions. Anyways, I might get a N6 or wait a bit more to see what comes out at CES. Thanks!
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I have adaway on my Nexus 6 and it works great. It's part of the LS ROM. The Nexus 6 is fine without xposed even after using it heavily on all of my other phones. If you want a tablet UI then you can change the DPI on your phone to 320 (560 is stock) and most people seen to like 460-480dpi. It's well worth the upgrade if you love to flash. Anything from CES (LG, ASUS, Samsung etc..) Won't have nearly as much development if any compared to a Nexus device. I like to flash ROM's and kernels so rather than deal with the hassle of unbricking a LG or Samsung with factory tools I can flash the stock ROM via fastbokt with my nexus easily. It's all up to what you plan to use the phone for. Any new phone debuting this year won't have xposed anyway because they will have lollipop
Your problem is not the Nexus 6, your problem is with Lollipop. Due time, Xposed will be made to work with ART.
Regardless of whatever phone you're using, if it has Lollipop, Xposed will not work.
Pilz said:
I have adaway on my Nexus 6 and it works great. It's part of the LS ROM. The Nexus 6 is fine without xposed even after using it heavily on all of my other phones. If you want a tablet UI then you can change the DPI on your phone to 320 (560 is stock) and most people seen to like 460-480dpi. It's well worth the upgrade if you love to flash. Anything from CES (LG, ASUS, Samsung etc..) Won't have nearly as much development if any compared to a Nexus device. I like to flash ROM's and kernels so rather than deal with the hassle of unbricking a LG or Samsung with factory tools I can flash the stock ROM via fastbokt with my nexus easily. It's all up to what you plan to use the phone for. Any new phone debuting this year won't have xposed anyway because they will have lollipop
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zephiK said:
Your problem is not the Nexus 6, your problem is with Lollipop. Due time, Xposed will be made to work with ART.
Regardless of whatever phone you're using, if it has Lollipop, Xposed will not work.
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Thanks for your replys. I was wondering if folks could change dpi on apps individually instead of globally.
Clearly lollipop is inevitable. I've tried a recently released developers version of lollipop on my former dd (Note 3) and it has some nice features plus some Note 4 multiwindow improvements. But I also missed my Xposed mods when using it. The main problem I'm having with the EDGE is that I'm not sure how much development will continune on it. Currently there are two very nice roms (I'm refering to tmobile here variant) but no custom kernels. So I guess I'm suffering from developer envy lol... CES should be interesting in that more devices should be introduced with 64 bit processors along with, perhaps some of the larger screen sony devices. At lest that is the hope!

First impressions of Android L for Note 4

Some of you may have installed the recent Lollipop update, if so what are your first impressions "Was it worth the Waiting"
Has TW improved & what the changes?
Howz Battery life & overall Performance?
Does ART have a notable impact and do you miss the Xposed functionality? (Xposed now updated for Snapdragon & soon will be Exynos.
There are many more questions but these in time are best answered by people having updated, I myself will wait because I'm presently happy with KitKat.
Just downloading the N910K ver now, I get back to you in a day or two.
sucks
No 64 bit no 4g ram. My antutu went from 52.000 to 43000 . Pretty colours and the end
Sounds a huge let down, oh well, I still have a N910G on KitKat.
oiwnos said:
No 64 bit no 4g ram. My antutu went from 52.000 to 43000 . Pretty colours and the end
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Thanks Oiwnos for the reply., Sorry your first impression is not positive, was it a OTA update or did you flash as clean install?
asia559571 said:
Thanks Oiwnos for the reply., Sorry your first impression is not positive, was it a OTA update or did you flash as clean install?
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Clean install . of 4.4.4 then ota . the antutu test happenend with just the phone's apps
Have found first few issues with 5.0.1 stock:
1. Heartrate sensor is almost always active -- if you put your finger or anything else on the sensor it's going to flash red. All the time, even after reboot and no SHealth running.
2. Interruptions mode settings are not complete. HERE you can see how it's done in S5 lollipop firmware, but in Note4 I don't have "Sound mode" settings and no interruprions settings from the volume button menu, only through Settings -- Sound Notifications -- Interruptions.
Next update needed.
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Clean install . of 4.4.4 then ota . the antutu test happenend with just the phone's apps
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Question! Is running ART? if yes, is there an option to go back to Dalvik.
There's no new API for camera. Google, Motorola, Sony and (I guess) LG imported them. Just Sammy doesn't updated it in Lollipop. Pretty dissapointing as it was the only feature that I wanted in this version. Note 3, S5 and S4 are affected too.
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There's no new API for camera. Google, Motorola, Sony and (I guess) LG imported them. Just Sammy doesn't updated it in Lollipop. Pretty dissapointing as it was the only feature that I wanted in this version. Note 3, S5 and S4 are affected too.
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Only Google has actually used the Camera2 API in the Nexus 5 and Nexus 6.
Motorola, HTC, Sony and LG are all not using them on their Lollipop updates. We may expect them to support it on 5.0 released devices like the S6+
I hope this isnt final!
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No 64 bit no 4g ram. My antutu went from 52.000 to 43000 . Pretty colours and the end
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If the 64 bit stuff is not accessible neither is the 4gb of ram.....then this is total disappointment. another user said that their benchmark results dropper as well. what's going on samsung? was this just an aesthetic update? i can do without the make-up I want my performance.
ddaharu said:
If the 64 bit stuff is not accessible neither is the 4gb of ram.....then this is total disappointment. another user said that their benchmark results dropper as well. what's going on samsung? was this just an aesthetic update? i can do without the make-up I want my performance.
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i got 49607 at AnTuTu now with Lollipop (and the device was hot before the test, so, could got more points if was colder) .. Strange that i have loose 1500 points on multitasking and won 1500 points too on execution time.. the rest still the same value +/- that was on 4.4.4.
i've no bug with S-health sensor, stays off until i choose some function on S-heath app
Same problem with interruptions (incomplete)
The rest the ROM it's faster and smoother than 4.4.4, very beautiful too...
ddaharu said:
If the 64 bit stuff is not accessible neither is the 4gb of ram.....then this is total disappointment. another user said that their benchmark results dropper as well. what's going on samsung? was this just an aesthetic update? i can do without the make-up I want my performance.
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1. 64 bit wouldn't do diddly squat for the performance of your phone. Hardly anyone even utilizes the power of 64 bit on desktop work let alone a phone.
2. download more ram? Say wha???
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i got 49607 at AnTuTu now with Lollipop (and the device was hot before the test, so, could got more points if was colder) .. Strange that i have loose 1500 points on multitasking and won 1500 points too on execution time.. the rest still the same value +/- that was on 4.4.4.
i've no bug with S-health sensor, stays off until i choose some function on S-heath app
Same problem with interruptions (incomplete)
The rest the ROM it's faster and smoother than 4.4.4, very beautiful too...
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thanks bro! well this makes me feel a lot better. I'll just wait for it to come out on my n910h
Sublation said:
1. 64 bit wouldn't do diddly squat for the performance of your phone. Hardly anyone even utilizes the power of 64 bit on desktop work let alone a phone.
2. download more ram? Say wha???
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lol yeah ur right!
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Blazing fast Dirty installed over my 4.4.4 X-Note installation. Everything works without problems. No FC's. Simply perfectly smooth. Waiting for custom ROMs with blacked out ui
asia559571 said:
Some of you may have installed the recent Lollipop update, if so what are your first impressions "Was it worth the Waiting"
Has TW improved & what the changes?
Howz Battery life & overall Performance?
Does ART have a notable impact and do you miss the Xposed functionality?
There are many more questions but these in time are best answered by people having updated, I myself will wait because I'm presently happy with KitKat.
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A simple review video :
youtu.be/s392gzrgU34
Portuguese-BR
Like and subs.
I will post a CM12 review too when it "comes out"
Wrong forum?! I think topic must be moved to general or Q&A section.
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After install the Lollipop N910C, i found that now, when you click com Quick Glance, you got a menu with options to what you want to show on the quick glance, but i can't get this to work, the settings gives me FC when i click on Try It, and the quick glance doesn't works at all...
Have any possibility that any developer can enable this ?
Deadly Sto(R)m said:
Wrong forum?! I think topic must be moved to general or Q&A section.
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Why wrong forum? Why don't you focus on something instead of being a mini-mod. These are exciting times because of Lollipop.
4.4.4 vs 5.0.1

[REVIEW] Official 6.0.1 TW firmware for Tab S

Here you have a proper review of the MM firmware update for the 8.4 inch model.
I personaly didnt like the update it hasnt got a much better performance and it hasnt got any design change like new samsung devices. It also hasnt got the theme store or microsd card as internal storage option. Its as laggy as the old LP and it doesnt have all languages (12 languages). Another thing to mention is that the s planner icon the gallery icon and the s browser icon are a bit blurred. It doesnt matter that much but its embarrassing anyway for such a big manufacturer like samsung. The biggest changes are the changed icons which now look like the ones on the note 5 on 5.1.1. Also the wallpapers has been repleaced with the s7 wallpapers as well as ALL transition animations. The last thing to mention is that the magazine UX is not working anymore, no matter if u activate it in the launcher settings or not.
Here is the video about the real life performance and all changes
Thank you for the review. At least we've been upgraded to 6.0.1 so the custom ROMs from the likes of yourselves will see an improvement
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Thank you for the review. At least we've been upgraded to 6.0.1 so the custom ROMs from the likes of yourselves will see an improvement
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Yeah but there are so many people who dont even know about custom roms.
And the bad performance like in 5.0.2 could be fixed also.
But yes u are tight at least we got thag update where others likentab pro didnt even got one updatesince now
Limited number of languages is because this first release is the Korean region version, and not an XXU1 (worldwide) version
It's sad indeed that Samsung has disabled adoptable storage for SD card. Do any of the workarounds found on other devices work here?
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Limited number of languages is because this first release is the Korean region version, and not an XXU1 (worldwide) version
It's sad indeed that Samsung has disabled adoptable storage for SD card. Do any of the workarounds found on other devices work here?
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I am not sure but i think i have heard that someone has found a way to activate that on the s7..
Looking at the pictures I do not see much changing
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Looking at the pictures I do not see much changing
Envoyé de mon SM-T705 en utilisant Tapatalk
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That's because Samsung almost never update the Touchwiz UI for older devices.
The important part is that all Marshmallow features are there. (Well, except the adoptable storage, but there's a workaround using adb.)
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I am not sure but i think i have heard that someone has found a way to activate that on the s7..
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That method has so far only worked on the S7. It fails on other devices like the S5 and Note 4 that got MM. A rooted device might have an alternative solution tho.
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Annoying that they didn't implement all the icon changes - ie they rounded all the default installed apps but not the Folder icon. The Note 4 got the new folders when MM came out. ?
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Annoying that they didn't implement all the icon changes - ie they rounded all the default installed apps but not the Folder icon. The Note 4 got the new folders when MM came out.
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Jup also saw that. Also the app drawer icon is still the same as before. They havnt changed anything on the TWlauncher :/
Sounds like my experience with MM on other devices. Not a huge difference. The improvements were fairly incremental. I'll probably keep LP on my rooted Tab S for a long time, and then flash the MM ROM when the final version/update comes out.
Guys, I totally understand your concerns about the shallow TouchWiz UI, but the major advancement with MM is supposed to be doze, which works under the hood. That alone justifies migrating to MM, IMHO. ?
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We always have the devs who makes sh*tty Samsung ROMs into masterpieces
Another important change is that this Rom should be compatible to a lot of newer Samsung apps as well as Rom mods from different devices. Stuff like Game Launcher or Good Lock for example should now work and maybe someone can port some other elements of newer devices like Grace UI. Good Lock alone is enough to change the notification UI BTW.
Anyway, what about the performance of the device? Has it improved with M?
Not really, performance is quite bad in my opinion.
Geekbench 4
822 - Single Core
1736 - Multi Core
Comparing with other geekbench 3 scores its around -40% multi core and -10% single core.
TheGoD said:
Another important change is that this Rom should be compatible to a lot of newer Samsung apps as well as Rom mods from different devices. Stuff like Game Launcher or Good Lock for example should now work and maybe someone can port some other elements of newer devices like Grace UI. Good Lock alone is enough to change the notification UI BTW.
Anyway, what about the performance of the device? Has it improved with M?
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Good lock has some bugs on the tab s.
The notification height is too small and the width of the quick settings and keep area is too big also.. However i fixed both with a modified good lock apk but it wont recompile -.- when i get that fixed i will upload this tab s modified good lock app
For grace ui i would recommend to wait its only aviable on phones yet. Sure we can port them but they wont look good on a tablet. The best way is to optimize them after porting but i know it from sucukrom when i ported s6 systemui and launcher - optimizing was hard and boring like hell.
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Not really, performance is quite bad in my opinion.
Geekbench 4
822 - Single Core
1736 - Multi Core
Comparing with other geekbench 3 scores its around -40% multi core and -10% single core.
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There must be gone something wrong while testing. This score is reallly bad..
TimurAlaskara_TR said:
Good lock has some bugs on the tab s.
The notification height is too small and the width of the quick settings and keep area is too big also.. However i fixed both with a modified good lock apk but it wont recompile -.- when i get that fixed i will upload this tab s modified good lock app
For grace ui i would recommend to wait its only aviable on phones yet. Sure we can port them but they wont look good on a tablet. The best way is to optimize them after porting but i know it from sucukrom when i ported s6 systemui and launcher - optimizing was hard and boring like hell.
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Wow, nice to see there is already somebody working on this (thanks for your support). I think its best than to wait for the Tab S3 to release which should be in the next few weeks anyway.
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Not really, performance is quite bad in my opinion.
Geekbench 4
822 - Single Core
1736 - Multi Core
Comparing with other geekbench 3 scores its around -40% multi core and -10% single core.
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Geekbench 4 runs a completely different set of benchmarks than version 3. I just recently read a (I think) Anandtech writer rant about how not related Geekbench 3 scores are to the experience in practical usage compared to the (then still closed beta) Geekbench 4.
So you can't compare those scores at all.
I just run Geekbench 4 on my Tab S 8.4 with Lollipop (but using Iron Kernel - interactive governor - and f2fs data/cahce) and got this:
812 - Single Core
1849 - Multicore
Do this update upgraded the imprint sensor functions?
Now can I interact with other app or like before it is only to unlock the device?
This is the main feature I'm expecting from MM (plus Doze, obv)
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Do this update upgraded the imprint sensor functions?
Now can I interact with other app or like before it is only to unlock the device?
This is the main feature I'm expecting from MM (plus Doze, obv)
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Yes, in MM apps can use the fingerprint API. This works with Google Play Store and Dropbox, to mention a few. My experience is with AOSP only, but I don't see why stock ROMs should be different.
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Yes, in MM apps can use the fingerprint API. This works with Google Play Store and Dropbox, to mention a few. My experience is with AOSP only, but I don't see why stock ROMs should be different.
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They didn't implemented the SDCard feature, they could also not implement this.
Before flash with odin the new FW I would like someone could assure me about this, because I will flash the new FW only to have this feature

How is the state of the OnePlus 3T right now?

Hello, I've been an Android user from a while and decided to upgrade from my Nexus 5 to the OnePlus 3T. The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is, but in October 31st, Nexus 5 will be 4 years older and although Google isn't still talking of stop working on the software side of it it is probably going to happen eventually.
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems, if people are using any specific ROMs that work better with it and anything that could be quality of life improvements that I could do once it arrives.
Thank you
perezdi said:
Hello, I've been an Android user from a while and decided to upgrade from my Nexus 5 to the OnePlus 3T. The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is, but in October 31st, Nexus 5 will be 4 years older and although Google isn't still talking of stop working on the software side of it it is probably going to happen eventually.
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems, if people are using any specific ROMs that work better with it and anything that could be quality of life improvements that I could do once it arrives.
Thank you
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The Nexus 5 is already discontinued when it comes to official software updates. It will only get security patches and even that won't be for long. (In fact it's latest factory image is from December 2016 so it might've fully stopped already.)
As for the Oneplus 3T, it's currently running the latest 7.1.1, latest security patch and the Oneplus skin (OxygenOS) is basically stock Android on steroids. I'm running the fully stock beta 4 version and the phone is extremely fast and smooth, battery is great. It's good to the point where I haven't even felt the need to unlock the bootloader and root yet. You definitely won't be disappointed in your purchase.
I recently (last week) replaced my 2 year old Nexus 6 with a OnePlus 3T and had the same concerns as you. Would I enjoy another OEM's version of Android? I was even running a really bare bones Vanilla AOSP ROM by the end and loved it.
I don't regret changing at all thus far.
I'm on OxygenOS 4.1.1 with Franco Kernel and Magisk v12 and it's working beautifully! I figured I'm gonna run OOS for a while before seeing if there's any nice ROMs available. I've been looking around a little, but not many of the available ROMs seems worth it (I don't want CM, Lineage or anything pre-rooted).
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As for the Oneplus 3T, it's currently running the latest 7.1.1, latest security patch and the Oneplus skin (OxygenOS) is basically stock Android on steroids. I'm running the fully stock beta 4 version and the phone is extremely fast and smooth, battery is great. It's good to the point where I haven't even felt the need to unlock the bootloader and root yet. You definitely won't be disappointed in your purchase.
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Ah, that's so good to hear! This is exactly what I was expecting. Yeah, Nexus 5 had an extremely good run and until the beginning of this year I felt it was still so good as far apps go, but anything web related started being more and more painful. It is still a pretty good phone and I'll keep around for Android dev related things.
Now I'm pumped for the 13th.
Thanks
Didgeridoohan said:
I'm on OxygenOS 4.1.1 with Franco Kernel and Magisk v12 and it's working beautifully! I figured I'm gonna run OOS for a while before seeing if there's any nice ROMs available. I've been looking around a little, but not many of the available ROMs seems worth it (I don't want CM, Lineage or anything pre-rooted).
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So you did modify your phone? Or am I getting it wrong? If not, why is that?
perezdi said:
The only thing I'm concerned is not having the Google Android version since I'm very fond of how good it is
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OOS is as close as you can get (factory OS) to "pure" Android unless you buy a Nexus or Pixel (and the latter will of course cost you). Many are calling the OP3T a spiritual successor of the Nexus series.
There are just a few OnePlus versions of apps (music player, file manager, weather) that many folks will find useless (you probably have your preferred options). And a OnePlus launcher.
But beyond that, there are a few modifications many will see as value added: The OnePlus camera app is really nice (great options in Manual mode). There are lots of settings which let you tweak and customize in (my opinion) really useful ways.
perezdi said:
With all that said, I'm trying to learn beforehand (my phone arrives in 10 days) if are there any lag problems
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This is arguably the fastest phone around, until the new flagships hit the streets.
perezdi said:
So you did modify your phone? Or am I getting it wrong? If not, why is that?
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I flash Franco Kernel because I have great experiences with it from my Nexus 6. Ran without for a few days, but realised I missed it...
I install Magisk because I want root and for a few nice systemless modifications. Currently: changing screen density, debloating system apps and Viper4Android.
redpoint73 said:
OOS is as close as you can get (factory OS) to "pure" Android unless you buy a Nexus or Pixel (and the latter will of course cost you). Many are calling the OP3T a spiritual successor of the Nexus series.
There are just a few OnePlus versions of apps (music player, file manager, weather) that many folks will find useless (you probably have your preferred options). And a OnePlus launcher.
But beyond that, there are a few modifications many will see as value added: The OnePlus camera app is really nice (great options in Manual mode). There are lots of settings which let you tweak and customize in (my opinion) really useful ways.
This is arguably the fastest phone around, until the new flagships hit the streets.
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I see. I never used a launcher (except the Google Now, not sure if that is even considered a launcher itself, and hopefully it is a feature in every Android phone, not just Google ones), ideally, I think I would want to get rid of that, if possible. The File Manager might be helpful, although I use one I like, perhaps theirs is a good one. No biggie, though.
Didgeridoohan said:
I flash Franco Kernel because I have great experiences with it from my Nexus 6. Ran without for a few days, but realised I missed it...
I install Magisk because I want root and for a few nice systemless modifications. Currently: changing screen density, debloating system apps and Viper4Android.
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I see. You were just tuning it to your taste and knowledge. Okee dokee. Thanks!
perezdi said:
I never used a launcher (except the Google Now, not sure if that is even considered a launcher itself, and hopefully it is a feature in every Android phone, not just Google ones), ideally, I think I would want to get rid of that, if possible.
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Google Now is a launcher (AKA home app). It's not pre-installed, but you can easily install it from the Play Store.
I don't think you can disable or uninstall the OnePlus launcher on a stock OP3T ("disable" is grayed out), but you certainly can with root (may want to freeze it before uninstalling, and make sure it doesn't break anything else). But I also doubt it would make any significant difference, compared to simply installing Google Now launcher, and making it the default home app.
perezdi said:
The File Manager might be helpful, although I use one I like, perhaps theirs is a good one. No biggie, though.
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Haven't used it much, it does the basic functions (move/copy files, looks like it can open archives like ZIP) but doesn't look like anything special. If you use one that has more features (particularly root browsing) you'll probably prefer what you already use.

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