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i just noticed that my 1 month old nexus one has the notification bar burnt in. go to landscape view in the browser, load a white background like google.com, and sure enough i can see very faintly the notification bar.
i've always kept the display on auto brightness. i'm very curious to hear if anyone else checks their screen if they have the same issue. the phone is only 1 month old, maybe 2 at the tops, so its very strange for this to happen. anyone else?
Had mine since end of March. No burn-in or any type of ghosting. I have my screen time-out set to 30 seconds. I wonder if that's got anything to do with it.
that's weird. my time out has always been at the default of 2 minutes. surely that isn't too much different though. 1.5 minutes shouldn't make or break it.
RogerPodacter said:
that's weird. my time out has always been at the default of 2 minutes. surely that isn't too much different though. 1.5 minutes shouldn't make or break it.
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how bad is it? Is it possible to show us a picture?
its not too bad, but definitely there. the concern is how new this phone is. what happens after 6 months?
I'll try to take a pic later, but don't have a good camera on me.
RogerPodacter said:
its not too bad, but definitely there. the concern is how new this phone is. what happens after 6 months?
I'll try to take a pic later, but don't have a good camera on me.
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Definately, you should give htc a call and tell them whats up. No rush on a picture.
AMOLED displays are worse for burn in than old CRT's, so br interesting to see how these fair
Got mine in late Jan and no sign of it.
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that's weird. my time out has always been at the default of 2 minutes. surely that isn't too much different though. 1.5 minutes shouldn't make or break it.
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Can't say either way if 1.5 minutes more of screen-on time can create the burn-in. But compared to the standard 30-sec time-out on most phones (some have 15 sec), 2 minutes is pretty long. You may want to set it to a shorter time-out duration.
you REALLY have to look close to see it. I tried it on black screen and you can't see it all. except in landscape the notification bar switches so at the very left inside the bar you can see the small faded line of the portrait bar.
i don't care enough to call HTC for any type of exchange or repair. I've heard the horror stories of their service too!
I have slight burn in on mine too. It's expected and I doubt the screen time out has anything to do with it. Keep in mind that any use of the phone the notification bar usually stays in the same place. Sometimes I have maps nav going on and that alone keeps the display on for the length of a car trip.
Also you guys can test by getting Dead Pixel Detect from the market and cycling through a few different colors.
well I'm not gonna get all worked up about it. sucks it happened so soon, hopefully it doesn't get worse. I'll try that dead pixel app just to see.
I'll take a pic shortly, but I don't know if it will actually be visible from a photo.
thats bad if its true....still a new phone with this problem already? wow..mine is less than a week old ...I will keep an eye out for it though, and if anyone has a solution that would be nice...
Drawing white on AMOLED requires much more than drawing black.
One more reason for using Desire (or a black notification bar theme)
I have two Nexus One's. The first was the Tmobile version which I used on ATT EDGE. That device has the purple tint issue and also has some burn in(uneven wear)where the notification bar is. Unfortunately I ran it with the brightness at 100%, 24-7. Now, it is very slight, but it is there.
I also have the 3G ATT version and it has no purple tint and has no burn in(uneven wear) yet and I've used it more now that I did the EDGE version. BUT, I never run this one with 100% brightness unless I have to.
Also, it is better to run at very low brightness for the first say hundred hours because there is a sharper dropoff in brightness half life during that time, making burn in(uneven wear)detectable with the human eye more likely to occur.
At the end of the day, for my situation, I blame myself for running at 100% brightness. I should have known better. LCD, with as long as they have been around, have innovated to the point of having very long half lives making burn in possible, but very rare. I was operating the way I always had with mobile devices. BUT, with these new screens, new care must be taken until AMOLED matures with higher brightness half life.
100% brightness I understand, but auto setting and this still happened in a month?
that pixel detector app definitely shows the burn in. I can see the icons too for 3g, signal meter, M from the pm time stamp, etc.
I guess there's no way to fix other than replace the screen? cause I'll change my notification bar to black if I had known this could happen.
I wonder what I should do...repair, HTC warranty, live with it, etc
I have the same problem. t-mobile nexus one. Happened about 2 months after I first got it. HTC replaced it. And it happened again on the new one. I keep it on 100% brightness pretty much all the time except at night. Doesn't bother me much though. I hardly use my phone in landscape and it's only on white backgrounds.
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100% brightness I understand, but auto setting and this still happened in a month?
that pixel detector app definitely shows the burn in. I can see the icons too for 3g, signal meter, M from the pm time stamp, etc.
I guess there's no way to fix other than replace the screen? cause I'll change my notification bar to black if I had known this could happen.
I wonder what I should do...repair, HTC warranty, live with it, etc
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If you get a new one just remember that even with a black notification bar, you're at risk. You will also need to run dark or black backgrounds to stay even with the black bar. Otherwise you will end up with a very bright bar and the rest of the screen will look yellowish/grey compared to it. It's always about making sure all the pixels are as evenly worn as possible. Another thing you can do is switch to a black notification bar now and run bright backgrounds and you can reverse some damage. It will never be perfect but you can get the wear more even again thus making the issue even less noticeable than it already is.
I agree about auto setting should have prevented this. At least you would think, but I'm no expert.
Several more things that can be done to help prevent this issue: if browsers or apps you use have the option to turn off the notification bar, use it. The more you can keep that notification bar off the screen, the more evenly you can wear the screen. Also, set your screen timeout to a shorter level. I used to use two minutes but now I use 30 seconds. The time that the screen is on and the bar is on the screen add up and can eventually contribute to uneven wear, and it's just wasted time waiting for the screen to timeout.
i'm seeing some faint burn in too
I don't feel so bad since I'm not the only one.
even with a black notification bar you would prob need white letters which would still burn in the white letters.
why the hell did I read this thread... lol mine is slight but I have some and I didn't notice it before because the only time I'm in landscape is in navigation most of the time.
So after reading the burn in thread and seeing the horror there.. and doing some general reading across the web.. I found out your not suppose to have your phone going for more than like 30 minutes at a time.... Which is ironic because part of the reason I have come to desire one as much as I do is I see my girlfriend use backflip more than she uses her laptop now.
While I do understand that it is probably not good for your eyes to use it as muich as she does.. and 30 minutes of straight use is a lot considering phone size..if I ever get into a serious game of robo defense I don't want to have to watch the clock and go "woops 29 minutes! time to let my screen rest!"
I really want a nexus one.. But, I really am worried about spending 529$ on a phone that I can't use the way I want without possibly damaging it.
I left my screen on all night long and, besides heat, no damage was actually done to the phone.
No noticble burn in?
The 30 min requirement does not matter if you use a black notification bar and also use launcher pro which hides the notification bar. The idea is you just don't want a static image in the same spot for hours.
I use my phone for hours at a time now with no problems.
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Burn in can only happen if the image (or part of it) is completely static for a LONG time.
that works... Does launcher pro require root? or is it an app on the market? if on the market how much does it cost?
Market, free.
Awesome, I think that covers all my major concerns
the fact that I'm somewhat A.D.D. is probably going to ensure nothing stays in one place to long and the launcher will make sure of that for what would otherwise be static images. Many thanks.
Where did this 30 minute rule come from? Doesn't sound too credible to me. As I understand it, burn in on OLEDs is caused by the gradual dimming of the display over time. This dimming is cumulative so it has to do with the total amount of usage of the display, not how long the display is used at any one time.
Someone was quoting that out of their manual I believe..
Seeing as I don't have an n1 manual I can't verify it or deny it.. however, I will say that 30 minutes is definitely a limited amount of time when you rely on a phone.
I don't have a manual either, I don't think the N1 came with one. 30 minutes would be an absurd limitation especially considering that normal usage of the Navigation would result in much longer then 30 minutes of normal on time. I think the desk dock also disables screen timeout, so I can't imagine that being an official recommendation from Google.
RogerPodacter said:
The 30 min requirement does not matter if you use a black notification bar and also use launcher pro which hides the notification bar. The idea is you just don't want a static image in the same spot for hours.
I use my phone for hours at a time now with no problems.
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I ask this all of the time.. What are you people doing, staring at the launcher!?!?
There are many apps around that doesn't hide the notification bar. I have some slight burn-in and I can assure you I don't stare at the launcher all the time heh
If I remember correctly Google navigation doesn't hide the notification bar either.
i use my phone as a phone and some web/gaming, I didnt notice anything..Whats burn in anyway?
@johnnie93
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_burn-in
although you may be better off not looking for it.
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@johnnie93
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_burn-in
although you may be better off not looking for it.
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Thanks, i didnt have time to search since i have alot of work.
no problem.
You can use your device longer than 30 minutes with no issues. The problem is using it with the stock white notification bar. This causes burn in. Switch to a black bar and feel free to use it for hours with zero burn in
android should allow for cutomization of the notification bar, this seems to be the only that cant be customized, its always white and always the same.
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There are many apps around that doesn't hide the notification bar. I have some slight burn-in and I can assure you I don't stare at the launcher all the time heh
If I remember correctly Google navigation doesn't hide the notification bar either.
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Agreed, and understood. But the post I was responding to was talking about hiding the notification bar in Launcher Pro.
I've been begging Waze to hide the notification bar, because that IS something I run a lot with high screen output..
So i've noticed a very strange issue with my Nexus 7. If I wake the tablet up while touching the screen I get some very strange touchscreen behavior. It's almost as if there are dead areas on the touchscreen that don't respond to touch. If I put it back to sleep and wake it up without touching the screen the issue is gone. I've made a youtube video demonstrating the issue but I can't post the link yet since I haven't had 10 posts yet. If someone PMs me I will message them the link so that they can post it to this thread.
Has anybody else experienced this issue?
I'm having the same issue. I noticed it while typing.
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Any specific areas that are less responsive? I wonder if there's a touchscreen calibration app for the Nexus. I know there are for other devices.
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I'm having the same issue. I noticed it while typing.
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+1 Definitely noticing this. It appears to occur randomly and inconsistently in different regions. The same region will not go dead again, necessarily. It seems as though the screen simply does not register those touches.
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Any specific areas that are less responsive? I wonder if there's a touchscreen calibration app for the Nexus. I know there are for other devices.
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It seems to be towards the center most of the time and the dead zone appears to vary in size. It's possible the dead spot may center around whatever part of the screen was touched when waking the device. I'll have to do some more testing to see if that is the case.
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It seems to be towards the center most of the time and the dead zone appears to vary in size. It's possible the dead spot may center around whatever part of the screen was touched when waking the device. I'll have to do some more testing to see if that is the case.
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Just got mine and it was sitting outside in the heat and the touchscreen was not responding well when I first turned it. After it cooled off and installed the update every thing is working fine.
Here is a video from the OP. He asked me to post it for him.
Is it possible that the capacitance of the screen is calibrated upon wake or something? Not even sure if possible, but it's a thought.
Edit: a drawing app may allow you to demonstrate a little easier.
I don't know if my issue is related but scrolling is totally inconsistent on my n7. Usually when I swipe it'll work correctly but one out of five times a swipe will be registered as a tap. This gets really annoying when you're trying to scroll but end up clicking something instead. Wonder if my n7 is defective.
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Here is a video from the OP. He asked me to post it for him.
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I don't have my N7 yet so I can't test it out for you but that's definitely weird. Can someone with an N7 try to duplicate the issue?
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I don't know if my issue is related but scrolling is totally inconsistent on my n7. Usually when I swipe it'll work correctly but one out of five times a swipe will be registered as a tap. This gets really annoying when you're trying to scroll but end up clicking something instead. Wonder if my n7 is defective.
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I've also seen this happen on occasion when I trigger the issue. Swipes will sometimes register as clicks...
A good way to confirm the dead spot is to download a drawing program and see if there are breaks when you try to draw a straight line. Even though I can replicate the dead spot when scrolling, everything seems fine in the drawing program.
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This is an Android problem as far as I am concerned. All of my android devices have typed funky while charging.
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A good way to confirm the dead spot is to download a drawing program and see if there are breaks when you try to draw a straight line. Even though I can replicate the dead spot when scrolling, everything seems fine in the drawing program.
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I tried this out in two drawing apps and got different results. In "Draw Free" when drawing vertical lines my line would stop at the beginning of the "dead" spot and pick up again on the other side of the "dead" spot. I could not replicate the issue when drawing vertical lines in the "Picasso" drawing app.
Not seeing this issue on my Nexus 7. Not very helpful in tracking the problem, but I figured it was worth mentioning that this doesn't seem to be global. I'll post again if I manage to replicate the issue.
I enabled show touches in developer options when it started happening, and I saw ghost touches nearing the middle left side of the screen when nearing areas with dead spots.
Seems like a grounding issue internally causing the touch driver to short in some places.
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I enabled show touches in developer options when it started happening, and I saw ghost touches nearing the middle left side of the screen when nearing areas with dead spots.
Seems like a grounding issue internally causing the touch driver to short in some places.
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If it is due to a internal grounding issue I don't think it will be as simple as a software fix
I am on the fence on whether I should try and get mine swapped out with a new one at GameStop...At a minimum I am going to try and call google support at some point today and get their take on the situation.
I would definitely swap it out.
Hello to all. I don't have an Nexus 7 but i do have Nexus S and i noticed from some time when i take out the phone from my pocket if i touch the screen and then turn it on the display was not responsive on touch but did not make some tests to see if the touch before turning on the screen was the exact problem. Now i saw this thread and tried the "pointer location" in Developer options and got this:
Turning off the screen.
Put my finger on a chosen spot.
Turn on the screen.
Unlock.
Try to draw a line passing through the exact same place where my finger was when i turned on the screen.
The line get to the point and then make a half circle around the spot or it break the line and then continue after the point where my finger was.
After turning off and on the display again the non responding spot disapear.
Sorry for my bad english
I too am having this problem.
I bought one at Sam's because i was sick of waiting on the play store....now I'm trying to decide if i should take delivery in the hopes that the touchscreen bug is only on some...
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Every amoled screen I had was burned after some time. Mostly on the status bar. Once it was WhatsApp.
This time I want to prevent or delay it as long as possible. What recommendations do you have?
Never understood how people managed with burn ins. Well, stop watching a static picture with 100% brightness for 5hrs in a row is a good start.
i have owned more than a dozen samsung products with amoled screens, never had burn in on one of them. I always keep the screen very bright because my eyesight isnt that great. the one lg amoled phone i owned had terrible screen burn
The factors involved are: heat (ext), brightness (curr), uneven degradation rate of each color (rgb), persistent elements, and age (of panel). If half a screen is black and the other is blue, at max brightness, the blue subpixels are under the most stress. Their decay rate will overshadow the resting blue lights - plus that of green and red.
5yrs from now you're going to look at an all white image. Half of it will look awful.
Thanks guys, but not really helping, are you?
Fall asleep once with your phone under your face and you'll have a burn in your amoled screen. Probably many other ways.
This is a common issue that most people don't even notice.
I get how it happens. I'm looking for ways to prevent it.
Setting a screen timeout is helpful
Had every Samsung for years and never had this, so I've no idea.
Maybe some people don't have a screen timeout and fall asleep sometimes dunno
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Do i remember wrong, but didint Samsung add pixel shifting at least for their launcher elements which stay at same of screen all the time?
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Do i remember wrong, but didint Samsung add pixel shifting at least for their launcher elements which stay at same of screen all the time?
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I don't remember that. I know they had it on their Plasma TVs. I thought the Pixel phones with OLED screens also had it but don't know about Samsung phones. I do think that 99.9% of people that use a phone normally will never experience burn-in for the time they own the phone.
Use full immersive mode to hide the status bar and the top and bottom. Turn off auto brightness because if you leave it on and go in sun the brightness get high.
Screen time out to 15 seconds
Leave the brightness slider 50 percent or less
If you use aod make sure to flip the phone so it turns off when not using it
Use youtube in full screen if you use it a lot
These are my tips as I've had my screen changed 4 times due to burn in on my note 8.now using these methods my screen so far has no burn in
For me it's always was the top status bar that would burn in
But now I should never experience burn in ever again now I've actively tried to avoid it
Everyone I know that swears blind they don't have burn and have never had that issue on any device I immediately grab there phone and look closely on a complety grey background and 100 percent of them have status bar burn in at the top at the very least
No way am I turning stuff off to avoid something I've never seen
900 quid to have to suffer immersive mode utter lols, if I have to did that I'll sell it
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I also honestly don't know what you're talking about. I've had s3, s5, s7, s9 and now to s10. Never had anything of the sort and since s7 I've been using AOD. Nothing happend. For the love of me I can't imagine how you may have had anything wrong with the display....
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Use full immersive mode to hide the status bar and the top and bottom. Turn off auto brightness because if you leave it on and go in sun the brightness get high.
Screen time out to 15 seconds
Leave the brightness slider 50 percent or less
If you use aod make sure to flip the phone so it turns off when not using it
Use youtube in full screen if you use it a lot
These are my tips as I've had my screen changed 4 times due to burn in on my note 8.now using these methods my screen so far has no burn in
For me it's always was the top status bar that would burn in
But now I should never experience burn in ever again now I've actively tried to avoid it
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Exactly, it's always the status bar. I think there is no immersive mode on s10+ yet, but I removed all the icons.
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Everyone I know that swears blind they don't have burn and have never had that issue on any device I immediately grab there phone and look closely on a complety grey background and 100 percent of them have status bar burn in at the top at the very least
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THANK YOU
I'm pretty sure many think they never had a burn in on their precious amoled screen, but they actually had.
Well they probably aren't looking for it that closely
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lumiden said:
Every amoled screen I had was burned after some time. Mostly on the status bar. Once it was WhatsApp.
This time I want to prevent or delay it as long as possible. What recommendations do you have?
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Lol, sorry to see everyone busting you up on this....because you know, it's always more helpful to give someone a bad time to ensure a post count increment, than to be useful and offer up some insight.
Well, I have had screen burn in occur on 3 different galaxy phones. Not from falling asleep, not from being clueless...but from using my phone with games. 2 were mine and 1 on My wife's..hers occurred from youtube.
I used to play clash of clans tons, got burn in from the smaller stats numbers at the top- over time...But replaced the phone no sweat. Verizon insurance took the phone as a defect, noted as screen image ghosting, no charge. I just didn't realize that it was an issue playing, but it was over time. I think it was an s6. The reps in the store were as surprised as I was that it had occurred.
Different device & model, S7 , but same thing occurred, not in the same game either...This time with clash royale- the towers and little cloud icon burned in from too much playing and too often, apparently. I thought I had been a bit more careful, but i think it was the frequency in which I was playing versus overall time.
This time I simply contacted support in the chat about the ghosting, they replaced it again as a defect, no charge.
My wife's occurred on the s7, hers was the top bar because of YouTube, too much & too often. So, did the same for my wife's phone through Verizon insurance, they replaced as a screen ghosting defect.
After I noted what was going on, she made adjustments, didn't happen again to either of us.
Both of us are on the 10s now and very aware this can occur. So, you just need to make sure you're not on those static images or bars or icons for either long periods or frequent shorter periods...it takes time, but it happens, despite popular misconception.
It is only really noticable on a white background, like when looking at mostly blank new tab in chrome.
On the last device, the S7, I made sure to cut the amount of time spent on static images, especially the games. I still kept the brightness always max during the day, nights it was at the lowest setting.
And yes, I kept my settings the same after the replacement, just made adjustments to my gaming approach. I didn't want to baby the phone screen settings, shouldn't have to. No issues on that one after adjusting my approach.
So, it's certainly possible to avoid and I bet there's many out there that use certain apps for long periods and frequently just do not really notice it may have occurred, even if slightly.. and I'm taking heavy users.
A note app with a clean page or white blank background reveals it, most of the time you're not using that, so ignorance is bliss...and makes It's easier for folks to bust on someone else for asking about screen burn in because they themselves are simply clueless it even remotely occured with them.
Heavy user naysayers, check your old phones, just for the heck of it... and then keep the findings to yourself because no one actually cares about you being right or wrong.
Anyway, it was an inconvenient lesson at the time,for me but good to know and learn from. Didn't cost me much but time, as it just took up time set up the phones again.
I know Samsung isn't too concerned about it or they wouldn't have preinstalled games on the phone (ie. solataire).
Just do your best to adjust your screen settings, like those that mentioned, if you're into that. Or simply adjust your apps/usage habits.
Don't overlook the Digital Wellbeing settings on the S10...that may also help you target certain apps with a timer also. Might be something useful for you.
Hope that helps some.
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Lol, sorry to see everyone busting you up on this....because you know, it's always more helpful to give someone a bad time to ensure a post count increment, than to be useful and offer up some insight.
Well, I have had screen burn in occur on 3 different galaxy phones. Not from falling asleep, not from being clueless...but from using my phone with games. 2 were mine and 1 on My wife's..hers occurred from youtube.
I used to play clash of clans tons, got burn in from the smaller stats numbers at the top- over time...But replaced the phone no sweat. Verizon insurance took the phone as a defect, noted as screen image ghosting, no charge. I just didn't realize that it was an issue playing, but it was over time. I think it was an s6. The reps in the store were as surprised as I was that it had occurred.
Different device & model, S7 , but same thing occurred, not in the same game either...This time with clash royale- the towers and little cloud icon burned in from too much playing and too often, apparently. I thought I had been a bit more careful, but i think it was the frequency in which I was playing versus overall time.
This time I simply contacted support in the chat about the ghosting, they replaced it again as a defect, no charge.
My wife's occurred on the s7, hers was the top bar because of YouTube, too much & too often. So, did the same for my wife's phone through Verizon insurance, they replaced as a screen ghosting defect.
After I noted what was going on, she made adjustments, didn't happen again to either of us.
Both of us are on the 10s now and very aware this can occur. So, you just need to make sure you're not on those static images or bars or icons for either long periods or frequent shorter periods...it takes time, but it happens, despite popular misconception.
It is only really noticable on a white background, like when looking at mostly blank new tab in chrome.
On the last device, the S7, I made sure to cut the amount of time spent on static images, especially the games. I still kept the brightness always max during the day, nights it was at the lowest setting.
And yes, I kept my settings the same after the replacement, just made adjustments to my gaming approach. I didn't want to baby the phone screen settings, shouldn't have to. No issues on that one after adjusting my approach.
So, it's certainly possible to avoid and I bet there's many out there that use certain apps for long periods and frequently just do not really notice it may have occurred, even if slightly.. and I'm taking heavy users.
A note app with a clean page or white blank background reveals it, most of the time you're not using that, so ignorance is bliss...and makes It's easier for folks to bust on someone else for asking about screen burn in because they themselves are simply clueless it even remotely occured with them.
Heavy user naysayers, check your old phones, just for the heck of it... and then keep the findings to yourself because no one actually cares about you being right or wrong.
Anyway, it was an inconvenient lesson at the time,for me but good to know and learn from. Didn't cost me much but time, as it just took up time set up the phones again.
I know Samsung isn't too concerned about it or they wouldn't have preinstalled games on the phone (ie. solataire).
Just do your best to adjust your screen settings, like those that mentioned, if you're into that. Or simply adjust your apps/usage habits.
Don't overlook the Digital Wellbeing settings on the S10...that may also help you target certain apps with a timer also. Might be something useful for you.
Hope that helps some.
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Thank you for your insight. I wouldn't be able to return it if it happens.
I'm also worry the AOD can cause burn in. I never used it before because I had a notification led...
I know it moves around, but is that enough? I also turn it off 8hs a day.
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Thank you for your insight. I wouldn't be able to return it if it happens.
I'm also worry the AOD can cause burn in. I never used it before because I had a notification led...
I know it moves around, but is that enough? I also turn it off 8hs a day.
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You can set the schedule for the time for the AOD is active and either use the AOD auto brightness option or set the brightness lower, if that helps you feel more confident with it. The movement should help avoid issues.
FWIW, I used AOD with my previous phone without any issue and I anticipate the same with this one.
My burn in issue was only with the games & YouTube as noted.
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This is my main issue with AMOLED screens. They look nice but they wear out. The nature of Android means they will wear out unevenly which is why people see burn in. The wearing out of your screen is cumulative. Meaning that it isn't like an old CRT TV where it would take weeks of a static image to burn in but just showing the same image over time day in and day out. The only way to prevent it is to use the entire screen with moving images, like full screen movies, so that the panel wears evenly.
The status bar and navigation bar tend to be on the screen all the time those images will burn in first. Dark mode can also cause issues because if the area is dark it isn't being used and if it isn't being used it will look brighter than other areas that were used more frequently. The s10 has a full screen mode option for some apps. Some apps like Netflix will show the full screen movie even around the camera cutout and that is ideal. Youtube will also allow you to zoom in and show the video around the camera. cutout Chrome and the Samsung browser keep the status bar but it will change colors based on the site and if the bar is white it will invert the status icons which will help keep the panel wearing evenly. I have the dolphin browser which runs in full screen but the top portion of the panel is not used so that is less than ideal.
Auto brightness can be used but in the bright sun that panel is wearing much faster. The screen time out should be set to 15 seconds. These panels are designed to look great but not be super durable and in many cases that's what Samsung wants. They benefit when you have to buy a new device. It's sad to say but its business.
Hi all,
I want to find out if heavy usage of youtube on this phone will cause Screen Burn In?
Heavy usage = Always on youtube. At least 8 to 10 hours of youtube per day.
Unless all the videos have the same static image (or its the same video on loop) screen burn is unlikely. The only issue would likely be the video not filling the screen leaving black bars down the side which could burn in. I'd recommend zooming in the video to fill the screen to avoid that.
That would mean there will still be burn in. ???????
RaiderX303 said:
Unless all the videos have the same static image (or its the same video on loop) screen burn is unlikely. The only issue would likely be the video not filling the screen leaving black bars down the side which could burn in. I'd recommend zooming in the video to fill the screen to avoid that.
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isnt it an amoled display, meaning the black bars would just be the leds turned off meaning no burn in?
I use you tube a fair bit, maybe not to the extent the OP uses but a good few hours, and not even a hint of burn in
They would burn in eventually as the black bars are getting less use than the video area so they'd be brighter than the rest of the display
My experience with burn in is that I had to go change the front panel 4 times in One Year (Samsung). I am now afraid to buy a new phone because I don't want to have to go to the service centre 4-5 times in one year. Just wanted to find out if Huawei also would get such issue. And don't know if Huawei cover such issue in their warranty.
kljs said:
My experience with burn in is that I had to go change the front panel 4 times in One Year (Samsung). I am now afraid to buy a new phone because I don't want to have to go to the service centre 4-5 times in one year. Just wanted to find out if Huawei also would get such issue. And don't know if Huawei cover such issue in their warranty.
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It's going to happen on any Amoled screen if you leave the same image on for long periods of time, nothing to do with the manufacturer of the device, the displays are rarely made by the same OEM as the device anyway
Turn brightness down and don't leave the same image on the screen, turn it off when not using it
I would recomend you to use "Youtube Vanced" as it has built in "background playback" and completly black theme and you can also turn the screen off during video playback.
adamlee2012 said:
I've had my P30 PRO since July 2019 and no burn in at all. 6-8 hours screen time a day.
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Me too, the display seems very high quality in terms of build quality....
It really depends on your personal usage. High brightness means screen burn ins will appear sooner rather then later. On my old Galaxy S4, after 3 years of usage, no burn ins. On my old Galaxy A5 2016, after 2 years, no burn ins. My girlfriend's Galaxy S9+, after 1 and a half year, full keyboard burn in. She uses her phone with brightness at maximum a lot of times while I, on the other hand, can't stand high brightness, only in direct sunlight.
It all depends on your usage.