Hi,
I own a Moto X DE for few days. It runs Kit Kat, and is unlocked and rooted with TWRP. Today, I've got a notification about an OS update. But when I try to update my system, the phone reboots on the TWRP menu, and no way to update.
Any idea about this?
Thanks.
I have a the T Mobile (Same as Dev). Had it rooted and bootloader unlocked. I didn't really care for saving data tbh. So what I did was return to stock.
Already had the 4.4 in my fastboot folder. So I booted into recovery and wiped everything.
Then went back to download mode and fastbooted the T-Mobile 4.4 version. Ran phone setup, check for update and installed. Took about 10 minutes max.
Though of course this is one way out of a few. The stickies in this section have the various ways. Find one which better suits you.
Do note you should not take OTA with root and a custom recovery
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Thanks, should have read a bit before asking. Sorry, and thanks again for the help.
Does new phone come with JB? If so should I stay with it and not to accept OTA?
It seems that Kitkat update introduced several issues (problem with email syncing, bluetooth incompatibility wit some cars, etc). Is there anything else? I am fine with not having the latest and greatest.
Also: is it possible to downgrade Moto X DE (GSM) back to JB? I am not 100% sure from reading this forum.
The kit Kat update had issues but nothing on the scale of the Samsung galaxy family's 4.3 update. I haven't noticed any issue on mine nor any on customers. Totally worth upgrading it.
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The only issue I am having with mine is that while it says its connected to web (either lte or wifi) it won't actually connect. A reboot fixes the issue until it comes back.
texanman said:
The only issue I am having with mine is that while it says its connected to web (either lte or wifi) it won't actually connect. A reboot fixes the issue until it comes back.
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Did you have this issue while on JB?
Dont know as mine came with 4.4 which did not have this weird issue. It may be something I installed so a wipe may be in order.
Go to KK, no question
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The only issue I had was Google maps not showing my direct location with high accuracy on. It was hard for me to distinguish if I needed to go right or left then it has a hard time rerouting. Which pissed my wife off lol.
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It will come with KitKat, and good luck not bricking the phone trying to downgrade it.
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Don't forget text reflow has been deprecated. Major loss in browsers and reading apps.
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@rbiter said:
Don't forget text reflow has been deprecated. Major loss in browsers and reading apps. Blink is in web view. Also means invert lost.
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eksasol said:
It will come with KitKat, and good luck not bricking the phone trying to downgrade it.
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Mine arrived with 4.2.2 installed, (2 weeks ago) and it took two updates to get to 4.4, 1'st 4.2.2 then 4.4. No regrets on the update for me, but then again I let the updates fly when I turned on the phone.
eksasol said:
It will come with KitKat, and good luck not bricking the phone trying to downgrade it.
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Just got my vzw DE wednesday, 2/12/2014. Came with 4.2.2 pre-camera update. soon as it booted it took the 4.2.2 camera update, then shortly after that came 4.4. did all the updates then unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted. happy as a clam!
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Just got my vzw DE wednesday, 2/12/2014. Came with 4.2.2 pre-camera update. soon as it booted it took the 4.2.2 camera update, then shortly after that came 4.4. did all the updates then unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted. happy as a clam!
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let me make this blunt before you even get your phone
your phone is a DE so you can root any version
is you come with 4.2.2 camera update or 4.4 you can upgrade and downgrade between thouse two versions only
if your phone comes with 4.4.2 you can not downgrade at all so just root it and enjoy because most people are trying to get there and bricking there phones half the time.
if you have any other question please post or PM me
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let me make this blunt before you even get your phone
your phone is a DE so you can root any version
is you come with 4.2.2 camera update or 4.4 you can upgrade and downgrade between thouse two versions only
if your phone comes with 4.4.2 you can not downgrade at all so just root it and enjoy because most people are trying to get there and bricking there phones half the time.
if you have any other question please post or PM me
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That makes it very clear. But can you elaborate on why downgrade from 4.4.2 is not possible? I currently use rooted Droid Incredible on Verizon with CM 7.1 and if I am not mistaken I can flash pretty much any previous ROM I want (I really haven't tinkered with it for last couple of years, so I may be wrong).
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That makes it very clear. But can you elaborate on why downgrade from 4.4.2 is not possible? I currently use rooted Droid Incredible on Verizon with CM 7.1 and if I am not mistaken I can flash pretty much any previous ROM I want (I really haven't tinkered with it for last couple of years, so I may be wrong).
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Moto changed the bootloader in 4.4.2 and they dont allow you to downgrade
Moto X DE - mine coming soon as well - some questions
dray_jr said:
Moto changed the bootloader in 4.4.2 and they dont allow you to downgrade
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My VZW Moto X DE is on its way to me, and I've spent a bunch of time on the forums yet still have the following questions and hope you can help. My current phone is an original Droid Incredible, which I rooted, mostly for recovery, backups, tethering, and system monitoring. This site was a great resource back when I did that and I greatly appreciated the information.
RE: the Moto X, I've read the steps for unlocking the bootloader and which paths for upgrading/downgrading are safe given the release shipped with the phone. That information was for the standard Moto X. If the DE is unlocked, can I just go straight to rooting the phone? If the OTA updates won't work with root, is it best to accept the latest OTA pushes once my phone is online and then root? I want to be clear about what I've gained by getting the DE edition. Why go back to 4.4.2 if it ships with a later release?
I have no plans in the near future for changing ROM's. I'd just like to initially install what I am using on the Incredible - the clockworkmod recovery app (or current equivalent), titanium backuip, and a good tethering program. I currently use android wifi tether.
Thanks for any help.
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My VZW Moto X DE is on its way to me, and I've spent a bunch of time on the forums yet still have the following questions and hope you can help. My current phone is an original Droid Incredible, which I rooted, mostly for recovery, backups, tethering, and system monitoring. This site was a great resource back when I did that and I greatly appreciated the information.
RE: the Moto X, I've read the steps for unlocking the bootloader and which paths for upgrading/downgrading are safe given the release shipped with the phone. That information was for the standard Moto X. If the DE is unlocked, can I just go straight to rooting the phone? If the OTA updates won't work with root, is it best to accept the latest OTA pushes once my phone is online and then root? I want to be clear about what I've gained by getting the DE edition.
I have no plans in the near future for changing ROM's. I'd just like to initially install what I am using on the Incredible - the clockworkmod recovery app (or current equivalent), titanium backuip, and a good tethering program. I currently use android wifi tether.
Thanks for any help.
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I have a dev ed and keep mine the same way you intend... What I've gleaned so far is that the each update includes a new bootloader version that cannot be downgraded, i.e. if you take 4.4.2 you cannot downgrade to 4.4. At this point the VZW version only has 4.4.
As far as getting the phone to how you want it after you take the upgrades the material in the following two links should get you right where you want to be...
Custom recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2424110
Verizon boot animation and tether hack...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645343
He kind of muddied it up by adding other cleanup tools that I'm not interested in, if you're like me and only want the tether hack you will need to go to the 140.45.5 folder in his link and download xt1060-140.45.5-vzw-removal-s.zip He also has an undo zip that you might want to download and stash away just in case.
This part is speculative and potentially dangerous so take with a grain of salt and correct me if I'm wrong.
My understanding is that the big issue from the downgrade is that there will be a partition table mismatch if one takes an OTA upgrade and the phone will be bricked, though I can find nothing solid on this. Being that I plan on keeping a custom recovery I don't have to worry about accidentally taking an OTA and for some reason prefer to have the ability to downgrade, when 4.4.2 comes out I'm going to try to flash everything but the bootloader and I believe the partition table, (I need to read more and understand more before I speak with authority) to see if I can get away with it.
Also, on a side note, I found that freezing pre installed apps/bloat destroyed the wonderful battery life I was getting so I would suggest you keep your phone stock for a few days to get a feel for how the phone behaves before you begin freezing bloat.
Enjoy your new toy!
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I have a dev ed and keep mine the same way you intend... What I've gleaned so far is that the each update includes a new bootloader version that cannot be downgraded, i.e. if you take 4.4.2 you cannot downgrade to 4.4. At this point the VZW version only has 4.4.
As far as getting the phone to how you want it after you take the upgrades the material in the following two links should get you right where you want to be...
Custom recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2424110
Verizon boot animation and tether hack...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645343
He kind of muddied it up by adding other cleanup tools that I'm not interested in, if you're like me and only want the tether hack you will need to go to the 140.45.5 folder in his link and download xt1060-140.45.5-vzw-removal-s.zip He also has an undo zip that you might want to download and stash away just in case.
This part is speculative and potentially dangerous so take with a grain of salt and correct me if I'm wrong.
My understanding is that the big issue from the downgrade is that there will be a partition table mismatch if one takes an OTA upgrade and the phone will be bricked, though I can find nothing solid on this. Being that I plan on keeping a custom recovery I don't have to worry about accidentally taking an OTA and for some reason prefer to have the ability to downgrade, when 4.4.2 comes out I'm going to try to flash everything but the bootloader and I believe the partition table, (I need to read more and understand more before I speak with authority) to see if I can get away with it.
Also, on a side note, I found that freezing pre installed apps/bloat destroyed the wonderful battery life I was getting so I would suggest you keep your phone stock for a few days to get a feel for how the phone behaves before you begin freezing bloat.
Enjoy your new toy!
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Thanks for that information. The last paragrapht seems counter-intuitive. I froze apps on the incredible so that it would reduce battery drain, why would freezing apps increase battery drain?
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Thanks for that information. The last paragrapht seems counter-intuitive. I froze apps on the incredible so that it would reduce battery drain, why would freezing apps increase battery drain?
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No idea, but freezing moto apps killed the battery. I haven't figured out what the culprit is yet as I'll be travelling this week and I don't want to jack up the phone while I'm on the road. I suspect another system app was spending effort looking for a missing app. Had I not ran my phone stock for a week I may have assumed that was just the phone as the high battery use was about the same as what I typically got on my S3. However, once I started freezing apps battery life went way down. Battery is good again after defrosting all Moto stuff that I assumed to be garbage. Once I get off the road I'll start freezing apps one at a time to see if I can isolate the culprit.
My thought is if you run it stock for a week you'll have a pretty good feel as to how the phone performs so you'll know whether your tweaks are helping or hurting you.
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Verizon boot animation and tether hack...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645343
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Now that I'm looking at a full size computer I see that you are not getting a VZW version, The link above is not good! Sorry
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Now that I'm looking at a full size computer I see that you are not getting a VZW version, The link above is not good! Sorry
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Yes, I am getting the Verizon DE. (VZW, 1st post).
I know, I know, there are a ton of posts by people asking how to return to stock. My situation is quite peculiar though.
I was part of the Motorola Feedback Network and I got to test 5.1 Lollipop on my XT1053 along with maybe 100 other people a few months. I was quite fortunate, but I felt like messing around and I flashed CM12.1. Now that 5.1 is available for everyone, I want to go back since CM has a cell radio battery drain bug that isn't present in stock.
So here's the problem:
I am unable to return to 4.4.4 to receive the OTA. Because I was already on Motorola's 5.1, my bootloader, motoboot and other important files were all upgraded to 5.1 and I can't downgrade. I tried flashing them using fastboot but no dice. Thankfully, I had a back up of CM12 or else my phone would be bricked.
I tried downloading a flashable OTA but it won't install because it's expecting me to come from 4.4.4, not 5.1.
I think what I would need is a generic 5.1 zip for the XT1053 in order to return to stock, but what do you think?
Like I said, I have the CM12 back that restored just fine so my phone is functional so I'm in no hurry. Thanks for any help!
Just curious how long it takes before recovery images are posted for Lollipop 5.1 https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
I noticed the GSM versions have been there for a while. When will motorola VZW (dev) versions be posted?
I was also wondering about this. Have you contacted Motorola?
Quite awhile back, I installed this one and am still using it without trouble: (well, a tweak here and there). Is this not what you're after?
http://motofirmware.center/files/category/11-moto-x-1st-generation/
I may have misunderstood what you're looking for but it sounds straightforward and is in SBF format and is stock. Just a thought. It now rooted with recovery, has a few verizon apps frozen by me and is doing well.
Hi!
Long time no see, haven't touched android in a couple years and could use some help unrooting my Moto X. It is a verizon Moto X (2013), android 4.4.2 rooted with towel pie root.
What do I do? Read through this page but was still confused, and several of the download links weren't available. There is an update available for my phone, what would happen if I accept it while it's rooted? I'm fine to be on 5.1, just want to get the phone working for my friend. I wasn't too familiar with things back when I first rooted it but I am basically back to ground zero in the lingo and know-how
Many thanks!
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