Hello,
Ive downloaded and tried some games on my Diamond. Like SimCity SOciitiets Mobile. I just have one problem. The game starts and all is good, but it is just a small square in the top left. The game doesnt cover the screen? Its really really hard to see anything.
Can i change resolution or something? Some games does cover the whole scren, and some dont.. Anyone know why?
rnenjoy said:
...Anyone know why?
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I suggest, because some are developed to support vga and some not?
kkempe said:
I suggest, because some are developed to support vga and some not?
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I think your right.
Some support various resolutions, and screen sizes but not VGA. Whereas some will be full screen but ive noticed a bit fuzzy in quality as the image is being zoomed in to fit (if that makes sense?)
Is there anyway to force it to be fullscreen even tough its not 640x480?
Its seems that almost every java mobile game is for poor resolution. Ive tried the NVD software that changes the resolution. But its very hard to load the game after you have changed the resolution.. Anyone has any idea how to change the resolution on start of the game, and then go back to normal?
Any news on this matter?
Almost all java programs are not usable.
TDO
In this topic we will discuss about console/platform emulators compatible with Touch Pro.
So far I got these working on the TP:
- PicoDrive
- FinalBurn
- Genesis Plus by n0p (you can achieve better framerate with PicoDrive - but far away from smooth gameplay)
- PocketSNES by n0p (better for SNES, but far away from smooth gameplay)
- PocketSNES by masterall
The emulator were tested with sound.
Performance tests (more to come?)
- Picodrive (Sonic 3): HTC Tornado (SPV C600) vs HTC TOuch PRo.
More information about poor touch pro graphics performance can be found here.
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I've also tried PocketSNES without succes (black screen when trying to load a ROM), PocketNester Plus (program exits after loading a ROM)
Haven't checked yet:
- FPSCe (playstation emulator)
- MorphGear (multi-console: NES, Sega, GBA)
- PocketScumm
You may check this guide.
Please post here your experience with emulators on TP. Also, you may post link to workable emulators and I will update the first post.
I Tried finalburn, can load ROMs with it, plays perfect, but on the same time are unplayble, due that the keyboard maps the same (OE) key on all.
Still haven't found a fix for this. Do you know of one?
For the fix try this. If the arrow keys are inversed, just map:
- Up: left key
- Down: right key
- Left: down key
- Right: up key
Ah, one note, on PicoDrive you must select "Fast renderer" because the poor redraw issue of the device, otherwise you will get full of annoying vertical delays. Anyway, at this point emulation is better (fluid) on my good old Tornado overclocked at 252Mhz than on touch pro (tested Sonic 3 with PicoDrive) .
I've been using the Gameboy Color emulator PocketGnuboy v1.21 with the KforTouchPro 1.0.0.3 keyboard fix. It runs well when set to 160x144 with sound enabled. I've noticed that Frame Skip has to be set at Auto or else the phone crashes after a bit.
Scummvm works and looks fantastic on TP only issue i had was that i couldn't map keys to the qwerty keyboard, but most games where still very playable, even COMI worked for a while!
Hope that helps
using morphgear gbc module with the fix by dilta.. works very smoothly
For an SNES emulator, use n0p's:
http://n0p.tonych.info/?PocketSNES
You have to use portrait right mode without the stretch, which puts that ugly controller skin on the screen. If you do portrait right mode with the stretch all the roms just glitch out. Also, there's no sound. Other than that, games tend to run smoothly (although I've come across a few that just don't work). Still need the KforTouch fix though.
Also, in your main thread you said Morphgear supports GBA, but from what I've seen it only supports GBC. I was able to get PocketGBA to work:
http://sunbug.net/attachements/download/9
However, I haven't found any way to put the emulator in the correct display mode for using the hardware keyboard, so I was stuck using the sucky directional pad on the Touch Pro with the touch screen keys. But, it works like a charm.
Alot of complains about the TP i cant seem to fit any of the complains here on my device v 1.90.409.6
1:You have to use portrait right mode without the stretch, which puts that ugly controller skin on the screen. If you do portrait right mode with the stretch all the roms just glitch out! >-->> i play it perfectly on my TP with sound and in ladscape mode with the keyboard to play with no need to use the skin i use pocketsnes 1.52!
2: Ah, one note, on PicoDrive you must select "Fast renderer" because the poor redraw issue of the device! >-->> i use picodrive and cant see any redraw issue on my phone also need to limit fps to 50-60 to get the games run perfect or they run too fast!
the only redraw issue i get is in opera browser! IE work greate without the redraw...so im not sure why my device dont get the other problem on emulators..and for the key settings use (shift left) (ctrl left) (tab left) and (q or a) for the r1 and l1 buttons on the snes use the volume keys its alot playable then for emulators i recommend is PocketSnes 1.52 (super nintendo) PicoDrive 0.52 (sega genesis) PocketGba Rel 060723 (gameboy advance) fpsece (playstation slow yeat but some games you get 30fps+) PocketNesterPlus 0.9 (nintendo) FinalBurn 0.011 (arcade) is some of the emus i recommend for you and all this emulators i can run at landscape for a note hope this help some!
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Alot of complains about the TP i cant seem to fit any of the complains here on my device v 1.90.409.6
1:You have to use portrait right mode without the stretch, which puts that ugly controller skin on the screen. If you do portrait right mode with the stretch all the roms just glitch out! >-->> i play it perfectly on my TP with sound and in ladscape mode with the keyboard to play with no need to use the skin i use pocketsnes 1.52!
2: Ah, one note, on PicoDrive you must select "Fast renderer" because the poor redraw issue of the device! >-->> i use picodrive and cant see any redraw issue on my phone also need to limit fps to 50-60 to get the games run perfect or they run too fast!
the only redraw issue i get is in opera browser! IE work greate without the redraw...so im not sure why my device dont get the other problem on emulators..and for the key settings use (shift left) (ctrl left) (tab left) and (q or a) for the r1 and l1 buttons on the snes use the volume keys its alot playable then for emulators i recommend is PocketSnes 1.52 (super nintendo) PicoDrive 0.52 (sega genesis) PocketGba Rel 060723 (gameboy advance) fpsece (playstation slow yeat but some games you get 30fps+) PocketNesterPlus 0.9 (nintendo) FinalBurn 0.011 (arcade) is some of the emus i recommend for you and all this emulators i can run at landscape for a note hope this help some!
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You must be using those emulators without sound? That's the only way you're going to get 100% speed. I've used every one of those emulators you've mentioned, and I haven't been able to get full speed on any one using landscape mode with the hardware keyboard.
@Quake3000, I can record a video if you don't believe me. Try a fast action game such as Sonic 3 & Knukles.
... And the redraw issue si present not only in opera. Just see my videos from here (i've done a test with IE too). Maybe you just don't feel it.. try with other sites . Anyway, we are kinda offtopic here. We can contine the discussion in the appropiate topic specified above.
@kevingilbert thanks for the links, I will try them ASAP and update my first post. I haven't tried yet MorphGear, but on this page GBA is also mentioned..
@0llyTouchPro have you tried KforTouchPro?
@at10ti0n thanks !. any other experience?
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You must be using those emulators without sound? That's the only way you're going to get 100% speed. I've used every one of those emulators you've mentioned, and I haven't been able to get full speed on any one using landscape mode with the hardware keyboard.
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nope with sound my favorite games on the genesis is the sonic games i have them all from sonic 1 to sonic 3d even sonic spinball...what firmware do you have? anyway i will see when il get time to record a video. Need to get my nokia N95 back from the care center first. then il use that to record with since my video camera died this summer after a very big fall from mountain there the plan was to film when i was mountain climbing:/
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nope with sound my favorite games on the genesis is the sonic games i have them all from sonic 1 to sonic 3d even sonic spinball...what firmware do you have? anyway i will see when il get time to record a video. Need to get my nokia N95 back from the care center first. then il use that to record with since my video camera died this summer after a very big fall from mountain there the plan was to film when i was mountain climbing:/
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I'm amazed. And I'm almost certain it can't be true. I'm running the stock Sprint firmware. With sound I can only run 100% speed with jittery movement due to all the frame skipping. I'll have to await your video.
DSF I'd like to thank you for making this thread, I'm a gamer, and I really wanna know how the Touch Pro compares to the tilt in gaming. The tilt cant play any emulators without lagging or needing to disable sound.
One main concern I have is, does the TP have the same touchscreen bug that the tilt had? the one that when you held down the touchscreen it would lag horribly? best way to tell is map the onscreen buttons in finalburn and see if it starts lagging.
speaking of finalburn, what roms have you tried and how was the peformance?
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DSF I'd like to thank you for making this thread, I'm a gamer, and I really wanna know how the Touch Pro compares to the tilt in gaming. The tilt cant play any emulators without lagging or needing to disable sound.
One main concern I have is, does the TP have the same touchscreen bug that the tilt had? the one that when you held down the touchscreen it would lag horribly? best way to tell is map the onscreen buttons in finalburn and see if it starts lagging.
speaking of finalburn, what roms have you tried and how was the peformance?
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Hey Mikeeey,
Good to see you on this forum. I'd only ever seen you post on Modaco.
Unfortunately, there's always a little lag on finalburn - even when using the software keyboard. Final Fight plays pretty good. CPS2 games (like D&D) I tried are a little more annoying. The big neo geo games also have some slowdown.
Actually, Mikeeey - your request made me find out something VERY interested. I just played D&D Tower of Doom and tried the screetap for the first time ever.
Using screentap instead of the action buttons - lag goes away altogether! I couldn't believe it and had to go through several fight scenes to prove it. Everytime I press a button on the keyboard in a fast action scene, the game stalls for a fraction of a second. If I do the same with a screen tap - there's no stall - it's just as fast as my 6700.
I think it's an issue of the program that we have to run in the background. I wish there was a fix for this, but HTC screwed up the keyboard setting such that without the background program - we can't map keys.
I've gotta say this is exciting, I played a few other games - and if we solved this, emulation on the touch pro would be near perfect.
Not sure why he says PokketNester doesn't work. Works perfectly for me.
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Hey Mikeeey,
Good to see you on this forum. I'd only ever seen you post on Modaco.
Unfortunately, there's always a little lag on finalburn - even when using the software keyboard. Final Fight plays pretty good. CPS2 games (like D&D) I tried are a little more annoying. The big neo geo games also have some slowdown.
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hey PolloLoco nice to see you here too! well if you look at my post count youl see I've actually been here for quite some time lol. How long have you been here?
I had no idea you got a Touch Pro, thats awesome! I thought you had verizon? isnt the verizon version not out yet? if it is what do they call it? I'm recommending it to my friend who has verizon.
how much lag is a little lag? On my tilt it was so bad, if i tried playing metal slug with sound it would slow down and the sound would be skippy cuz it was lagging.
wow... so.. they fixed the screen bug..but now there are button bugs?? Idk which is worse.. Well hopefully there will be a fix for the button mapping issue and the buttons slowing down the game. Have you flashed to a custom rom?
I noticed the TP has less buttons for games in portrait mode. It doesnt have the left and right softkey.. am I correct?
have you played in finalburn games that were in portrait mode, like those verical air shooter games? DonPachi for example?
Could someone try DoomGLES on the TouchPro?
I would have when I went to play with the Fuze at the AT&T store but the guy had to grab one from the back and he watched me as I played with it, waiting for me to give it back so he could put it back in the box.
I've 100% discovered that any slowdown with games on the touch pro - is 100% due to lag from the keyboard. It may not even be the background program "Kfortouchpro". Some users have reported that they have keyboard lag when typing - UNTIL they flash to a new rom (GSM version). I hope there's a similar fix for the CDMA version. Then it may be reasonable to use this phone for gameplay with the keyboard.
What I did to test this was by digging up (it took hours) my old smartphone bluetooth joystick. I installed the program (told it it was an HTC Magician) and then mapped the joystick buttons to the very few hardware keys that register. By the way - on the keyboard, up down left and right map independently without k for touch pro - and there's apparently no lag.
Once I'd mapped to the hardware keys, I started playing Finalburn. It played awesome. Almost 100% speed. On some high speed action shootemups (shocktroopers 2) - I saw a little slowdown. That said, I'm picky about emulation, and I have no concerns about recommending Finalburn on the touchpro. It's beautiful, great speed, and it looks and sounds great on the VGA screen and speakers.
I then tried Picodrive - and it worked just as well! The difficult and jittery gameplay I had before, were purely from the keyboard lag. I'm happy - and I'm still hopeful I can connect my phone to the tv and play games from my couch on the bluetooth joystick. However, I'm expecting serious slowdown due to tv out.
Mikeeey, to answer 2 of your questions. I'd heard about Verizon's initial plans to issue a crippled touch pro - slower processor and half the ram - for the same price. So I sent a complaint e-mail, wondering why it wouldn't make sense to switch to Sprint. I never got a reply. So I decided to switch to Sprint. It makes sense for me - the same unlimited data plan is at least $15 cheaper than Verizon's and I haven't had any coverage issues since I got this phone 3 weeks ago.
The Verizon phone, since many user complaints - may not be as crippled as originally planned. The latest rumors I've heard were that the Verizon XV6850 will have almost the same processor and 192 megs of RAM as opposed to the 256 of the Sprint Touch Pro. Early leaks suggested that the Verizon prototype is a touch slower. We'll see.
Mikeeey - the vertical shooters you're suggesting would stink on this phone that way. The optical joystick and surrounding buttons stink. Very often you press one direction (they're connected) and the next direction registers. So it's not very accurate and I try not to use it. For a vertical shooter I'd either use the direction buttons on the pull out keyboard (they work as I mentioned) and the 3 front face buttons that register.
well im glad you discovered the problem, I'm glad to know it's fast!
ah yes, the speakers, how are they? louder than the 6700 and kaiser? does it have good sound quality?
So I assume you use the arrow keys on the keyboard then, isnt that difficult considering you cant easily go from 1 key to the next or press 2 at the same time. For example trying to press right and up at the same time? on my Tilt if I try to do that I end up pressing "enter" as well.
damn.. vertical shooters are my favorite.. does the D-pad actually "click" or is it touch buttons? I didnt have enough time to figure it out when I played with it. and is there a single softkey button on the device anywhere?
This is the first game with such great graphics and to run so soothly on the Touch Pro. The only thing I found to kinda be cut off because of the difference in screen size is the loading screen.
EDIT: Well after looking closer I found that while playing the game the left part of the screen is slightly cut off not allowing you to see your score. But is still good enough to play.
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If at first the game does not work thy this:
3D Drivers
I just installed it, neat game. I can't believe they didn't use the accelerometer for steering. Steering and shooting with the stylus is impossible at later levels. Since the game gives you separate scores for shooting, steering, and stunts... you'll take a hit on shooting or steering.
But the game is playable. Perhaps if the game was using a different orientation (dpad in the left hand)... you could steer with the Dpad and shoot with the stylus.
It is smooth and the graphics look great. Thanks for sharing!
White Screen
All I'm getting is a white screen.
I'm on a Touch Pro using illboredsll ROM, I think its 11039.
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All I'm getting is a white screen.
I'm on a Touch Pro using illboredsll ROM, I think its 11039.
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Try this
http://www.4shared.com/file/94903988/46937ade/Driver_Ati_d3d.html
They are 3d drivers
Control really isn't optimal, but I guess since it's meant for another device... The help screens are cutoff and I can't make out some of the controls. Did figure out if you start the game after opening the keyboard, can use the Up/Down arrows on the kb to steer.
The game does look pretty good!
Works, but the right-hand side is cut off. Regardless, it's a great game, but the controls are a bit wonkey (maybe because I'm not good), still playable though, completed the first level. I had to exit by going to the control panel.
And the drivers you posted are the same as here. Right?:
http://www.fuzemobility.com/the-new-3d-drivers-are-here-with-video/
Now if only I can get FPSE to do this graphics rendering so well with PS1 games!
White screen
This is my first post! So... hello!
I had the same problem with white screen (mSD isntallation). I have 3d drivers installed.
After installing it in the device memory it works great!
Definitely the best looking game I've seen so far. Now if we could only get a version for our screen resolution lol
was anyone able to beat the first boss?
for some reason, I can't hit the corners of the stupid shield...
If you click around where the orange corners are you have to do it pretty quick and hit all of the corners or it won't drop the shield.
To those having trouble with the steering/shooting
I found it much easier to open up the keyboard and use z/x to steer left and right with your left hand. This leaves you right hand free to control the shooting. Also you don't have to hit home to exit. Although the majority of the quit button is cut off, you can hit the edge of it if you look in the top corners.
very nice game ... i'm waiting the touch pro porting with gsens and VGA resolution
yeah, been using it on my touch pro (latest official rom) since it came out. works well (apart from sides cut off ofcourse) but everything is accessible (tap small blue area top left to go back or just use dpad). still cant beat first boss. hope an update will have gsensor enabled or something
The hardest thing about beating the boss is you not hitting it, especially when it shields itself. I found that you have to hit the orange spot a little offset to the left. I was able to get rid of the shield pretty fast this way.
The problem is, it doesn't die right away!! You'd better hope you get through the first form within a min and a half, or you may not have enough time for the next form :/
screens??
Anybody that have some screenshots they post? =)
NEVERMIND! Used youtube and got a nice preview.
Wow this game is pretty badass!
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Anybody that have some screenshots they post? =)
NEVERMIND! Used youtube and got a nice preview.
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Here are some screenshots for the benefit of others. The graphics are great and game is a lot of fun.
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Thanks a bunch. This game plays very smoothly on the fuze. Even though it is sized for wvga, the game is still fully playable.
It's absurd that WinMo doesn't have games that utitilze the full 3D accelerator of this $300 phone. Will be on the hunt for more of this type.
not working on i900/ omnia any reasons why just says
the file cannot be opened. either it is not signed with a trusted csrtificate or one of its components cannot be found if the problem persists try reinstalling or restoring this file,
iv got it installed to main memory and installed the 3d drivers just incase,
any ideas how to make it work please
Ok guys i just want to get some help from more experienced people if it comes to PDA applications. Tibiame is cool mmorpg for mobile phones but, unfortunately, there is no windows mobile version. There are JAVA versions and symbian versions.
www.tibiame.com is the games main site
Java version can be ran on JBLEND , and application knows the resolution but only menu is full screen while actual game is very little and unplayable , unless u can see whats written on such a low screen. So what i basically want is making the game think my screen resolution is smaller and then stretch it to full screen (stretched pixels will be much better than what i can get now).
Other thing is running symbian application which resolution is 360x640, but i have never heard about running .sis on WM.
Thanks for help !