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Anyone heard anything about an official car dock?
First Sony phone for ages and I'm not sure if Sony tend to sell phone car docks. Suspect the magnetic charging pins are for power only - my old Galaxy Nexus had 3 pins, one of which is for data.
Sony has actually produced a fair few accessories this time around (some being universal, which is also a good thing).
However the car holder is just that - a holder. To me that seems rather stupid, as if you were going to use it as a SatNav (with the screen on) then you're going to either kill the battery while driving, or soon after.
Why couldn't Sony produce a holder that could charge via the pogo pins? Imagine how good that would be! Then include a smart tag (NFC) so that once you put the phone in the dock, it would connect to your car radio via Bluetooth and/or load up your SatNav software/Spotify or whatever.
And charging £40 is also a bit of a liberty if you ask me!
I hope we get a third party holder that does the above, and costs a bit less too.
jonmorris said:
Sony has actually produced a fair few accessories this time around (some being universal, which is also a good thing).
However the car holder is just that - a holder. To me that seems rather stupid, as if you were going to use it as a SatNav (with the screen on) then you're going to either kill the battery while driving, or soon after.
Why couldn't Sony produce a holder that could charge via the pogo pins? Imagine how good that would be! Then include a smart tag (NFC) so that once you put the phone in the dock, it would connect to your car radio via Bluetooth and/or load up your SatNav software/Spotify or whatever.
And charging £40 is also a bit of a liberty if you ask me!
I hope we get a third party holder that does the above, and costs a bit less too.
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agree thats a bit expensive for a holder, I just bought one on amazon for £14, which I'll modify to charge as well
Brodit
a couple of days ago I've contacted brodit if they could tell me a date when the holder for the Z1 would be available.
They told me it would take a couple of days.
gstadt said:
Anyone heard anything about an official car dock?
First Sony phone for ages and I'm not sure if Sony tend to sell phone car docks. Suspect the magnetic charging pins are for power only - my old Galaxy Nexus had 3 pins, one of which is for data.
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There is the official one...but it just holds it. I really want one that has a charge attached, I can deal with a cable down for the headphone jack, but I can't live without power. Sony really missed a trick on that one.
Especially with the magnetic charger port, and the fact they're even selling the cable separate to the dock in some regions. How hard to rig up this very lead to a car holder?
well I did not find any sony manufactured genuine car dock for Z1 at Amazon..there are some on ebay but not find one for Z1 and they are bit expensive too....and also found some from other vendors at Fommy...they have variety of docks with reasonable prices...
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I found this genuine Sony car dock for the Z1. Looks pretty basic and personally I don't think it's worth the premium in price. Plenty of other generic ones out there unless you really must get the Sony one. Link
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That's the one I was talking about earlier. It doesn't charge, which seems rather silly as I've regularly driven for 6-7 hours in a day (albeit with breaks) using satellite navigation, and there's no way the Z1 would cope with that and not die part way through.
I really did expect it would have been a dock with an integral magentic charger. Of course, you can presumably rig up a separate cable of your own - but you'd expect to buy something that looks sleek and designed for the phone.
Of all the Sony accessories, this has to be the worst.
Just ordered on if these: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/ultra-desktop-dock-for-sony-xperia-z1-p41456.htm
Will use some sticky tape and stick it on my dash. Been using a Galaxy Nexus the same way with the desktop dock, works great, just drop the phone in the dock when you get in the car.
Any hard breaking and your phone will fall out of the dock and either smash into your windshield or in your face. I'd not use those dock type of holders.
It's not perfect, but I plan on using my iBolt I have had for several phones now, and just ordered a couple magnetic usb cables from EBay. I'll just attach it to the back and leave it dangling. Then I can simply flick it in place when required. Should work! I just wish the Z1 had the analogue USB audio with charging the S4 has......only thing I miss so far!
How many phones do carry audio via USB? The Motorola Atrix did (very nice car kit) but I've not found a phone since.
I like the dock but price is a bit steep. The only problem I have with my universal dock is that since all buttons are locked on one side its very hard to place without hitting the volume of camera button. I'm sure soon we will see some aftermarket copy cats that sell it a at a reasonable cost .
Brodit has a Car holder ready! Not sure if it's a 2a or 1a charger and if there will be a passive charger.
http://brodit.se/productList.html?brand=Sony&model=Xperia+Z1&pn=prod
I got answer from Brodit.
The charger on the active dock is a 2a charger.
There will be an passive holder.
RobbieTr said:
Brodit has a Car holder ready! Not sure if it's a 2a or 1a charger and if there will be a passive charger.
I got answer from Brodit.
The charger on the active dock is a 2a charger.
There will be an passive holder.
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Brodit always look so tacky though.
Considering there is a charge point on the bottom someone could design a nice looking dock.
The deskdock would work if it had a slightly higher back and then a clip that could fold up and hold onto the top of the phone.
It needs to be a design that doesn't look like it has been made in metal shop by a 7 year old when the phone is not in there.
Yeah I believe this is definitely something Sony need to wake up about, because these sort of things will hold them back. Sony need to ask themselves a question what is going to be the thing that is going to piss people off the most. Obviously opening and closing flaps every day. Love the headphones jack with no opening and closing flaps .
For a flagship phone people expect lots of accessories for the phone, extra battery life, protective cases, docks, car kits... I purchased the Xperia Z outright, and then expecting some accessories for the phone to be released after, and finally pretty much nothing, what seriously hoping for a car kit to utilise the charge pins. As a consumer I feel abandoned by Sony .
They have made come some way with the Xperia Z1 offering quite a few accessories at launch date, but note most if not almost all of them are generic. It shouldn't be 100% other companies responsibility to provide accessories for a flagship phone, it is Sony's and who cares if other Companies may manufacturer accessories.
I now have the Xperia Z1 and happy with the phone, and now in the same situation as everyone in thread looking for a car kit again, a little bit better this time because there is a possibility that I don't have to keep on opening a flaps any more.
Due to this I am sure a lot of people are not buying Sony phones regardless of how good they are. Come on Sony I really think you will find that a huge percentage of people require car kits, as they use phones for an in car gps, in addition most countries will fine you if you are not using your phone hands free.
Check out this one at ebay....It luks nice one....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dedicated-A...5392?pt=US_Mounts_Holders&hash=item3a7b6e6460
RobbieTr said:
Brodit has a Car holder ready! Not sure if it's a 2a or 1a charger and if there will be a passive charger.
http://brodit.se/productList.html?brand=Sony&model=Xperia+Z1&pn=prod
I got answer from Brodit.
The charger on the active dock is a 2a charger.
There will be an passive holder.
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I'm using the passive holder from Brodit/ProClip. It makes sense for me since I already had the car mount from a previous phone. It works quite well but it is overpriced for a simple piece of plastic. I don't like their powered options so am just using a magnetic charging cable with it.
Jimmy2u said:
Check out this one at ebay....It luks nice one....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dedicated-A...5392?pt=US_Mounts_Holders&hash=item3a7b6e6460
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Had something similar before not nice in my hot climate blocking the aircon.
Z1 case and car holder 2in1 (DIY)
Hi , I found solution which works for me so I decided to share with you.
Bought Wallet Stand Case for 4.95 on ebay and adapt my old, unused car mount for nokia 5800.
I cut off some corners of holder cradle to get flat surface and glued it to the back of the case. There are some pics..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395943&stc=1&d=1384627505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395944&stc=1&d=1384627505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395945&stc=1&d=1384627505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395946&stc=1&d=1384627505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2395949&stc=1&d=1384627645
What I like in it is when I want to use my Z1 as sat nav the phone is still safe in its case with access to any buttons and no need to shift between case and car holder. Also you can use magnet charging cable as it easy access to magnet socket.
Just wondering if sony replaces flaps. If the flap was broken or cut. Do they sell new ones that fit perfectly? Anyone tried it? Thanks. I'm concern about my micro usb flap because i charge my phone everyday.
Hi giotzkie05,
You should consider buying a magnetic dock or magnetic charger . That way you will not open and close the flaps every time you charge the phone and worry about braking them.
There are also magnetic charging docks but the magnetic USB cables are cheap enough that I'd recommend just picking up a few and only using them to charge your phone to keep the flap securely sealed:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291175261140
bofis said:
There are also magnetic charging docks but the magnetic USB cables are cheap enough that I'd recommend just picking up a few and only using them to charge your phone to keep the flap securely sealed:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291175261140
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Since the Z1C was released i have tried 5 different magnetic charge adapters for my Z1C and Z3C (mostly out of interest). The one you are referring to (with waveshaped indentations on the USB connector and no text on the magnetic connector) have a rather weak magnet and are harder to get to connect properly. They are actually the worst ones I have tried, but they do function. The type that gives the best tradeoff between price and connection quality are the ones shown on http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Micro-U...t=LH_DefaultDomain_2&var=&hash=item27e912998b . The best ones I have tried are the ones in small boxes with a "Brasil world cup" logo and a Sony logo on the box and a Sony logo on the magnetic connector. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Cable-M...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item233f83d71c) These do cost a lot more, so I only use these for use in my car, while "best tradeoff" ones are fine for use next to my computer and my bed.
I had an older version of their product (which was a cable, not an adaptor) for my old nexus 10. It was a great cable, very strong magnetic attachment and worked flawlessly. I was very happy with their quality so I decided to look for another one for this tablet. It seems they got this new adaptor now, that looks very interesting, but the price is kinda big.
I bought a z1 cable for less then 5$ which does the job, but the magnet isn't very strong and not very fixed either, I mean the pins sometimes lose contact even tho the cable is still attached magnetically.
So 12 pounds + around 6 for shipping, seems a bit too much.
I was wondering if anyone tried this product?
I am also interest in someone's experience with this. Does it support 2 amperage? Amazon.de shows a couple of variants. That WHSKEN cable looks solid
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Got the Sony's one. The magnet was so loose. After it "snapped" I then place my tablet on the desk, the magnet fells off 90 degree (because the wire was "touch" by the desk).
Hard to precisely aim so that it actually charge. Most of the time it snapped by doesn't charge.
Back to USB cable for now even though the flap starting to loose...
I am using this one and it is good, i also have an original cable from the z1 compact dock, which does have a weaker magnet.
its only $4
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Trus...eria-Tablet-Z3-Compact-Z3-Z2/32232965248.html
I'm using my DK31 for my z1, z3 compact and z3 compact tablet. For the tablet I have a card on the back to hold it secure. It works fine for all 3 of my devices.
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I am using this one and it is good, i also have an original cable from the z1 compact dock, which does have a weaker magnet.
its only $4
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Trus...eria-Tablet-Z3-Compact-Z3-Z2/32232965248.html
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Also bought it and it does a fine job!
Could you repost. Link is gone, or missing
Would like to see this myself too
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Be careful with magnectors very strong magnets. They can easily pull off the magnetic port no matter how careful you are. Already pulled out my z3 and tab z3 magnetic port. Better use the dock or the cable from sony.
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The "MagNector Magnetic Charging Adapter for Micro USB Cable for or Z3 and Z3 Compact and Tablet" on amazon is okay. Works if you don't mess with it. Will fall of if you move it around.
infinitylook said:
Better use the dock or the cable from sony.
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There is an official Sony magnetic charging cable?
Could you provide a reference?
The magnetic connectors don't work as good as they do on the Z3 phone. The tab is too large and they easily fall off. Easier to use a dock.
dragonfire## said:
The "MagNector Magnetic Charging Adapter for Micro USB Cable for or Z3 and Z3 Compact and Tablet" on amazon is okay. Works if you don't mess with it. Will fall of if you move it around.
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Only recently found this thread as I am a new X3c Tablet owner.
I have a variant of this cable, the New Magnector X2 which uses the same magnets, but is an adapter for any other MicroUSB cable... This product pulled the magnetic pogo pin mount right out of my old z3c phone, so try the break the connection sideways instead of pulling straight off
Hi there, you can use the WKSEN Cable, it is well build and it support the Fast Charge Option via the right Qualcomm Charger.
I have a case on my phone, but I noticed recently the flap to the SD card and USB port isn't clicking shut. I mean, it'll click shut, but then it pushes itself out again. It's cheaper for me to replace the door than to get another $20 case that provides cover support to this port.
Which vendors sell the updated port cover that prevents this issue? I found one vendor, here: http://www.witrigs.com/oem-micro-sd-sim-usb-port-cover-flap-for-sony-xperia-z3-compact-black
Sony store sells it. In malaysia, it costs around us$7 for 1 flap
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I have a case on my phone, but I noticed recently the flap to the SD card and USB port isn't clicking shut. I mean, it'll click shut, but then it pushes itself out again. It's cheaper for me to replace the door than to get another $20 case that provides cover support to this port.
Which vendors sell the updated port cover that prevents this issue? I found one vendor, here: http://www.witrigs.com/oem-micro-sd-sim-usb-port-cover-flap-for-sony-xperia-z3-compact-black
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I've had to replace mine about 4 times now. The seal just doesn't cope if you open and close the flap a lot.
I get mine from Amazon. They're normally only a few bucks and come in a lot of different colours.
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Ticklefish said:
I've had to replace mine about 4 times now. The seal just doesn't cope if you open and close the flap a lot.
I get mine from Amazon. They're normally only a few bucks and come in a lot of different colours.
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My z3c has the same issue. The rubber seal detached from the flap itself after some use and the loose piece (the rubber seal) prevented the cover from a complete close.
I blame Sony for not having a better design/quality considered it is the cover of the charging port. IMO, It should be able to sustain usage on a daily basis.
I'm looking into the possibility of gluing the rubber seal in place with rubber cement or contact cement. Replacement flaps cost around $5/pc. Would hate to replace flap every couple months.
I don't care for waterproofness anyway as I don't use it underwated, so I just peeled away the rubber seal from the flap and put the flap back in its place, the replacement costs here around 5€ if I'm right, but as of now, I don't need it.
If you need to use your phone underwater, then buy a replacement part, otherwise it can be used without seal.
Cirra92 said:
I don't care for waterproofness anyway as I don't use it underwated, so I just peeled away the rubber seal from the flap and put the flap back in its place, the replacement costs here around 5€ if I'm right, but as of now, I don't need it.
If you need to use your phone underwater, then buy a replacement part, otherwise it can be used without seal.
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You can buy them from eBay or Amazon at about 7 or 8 bucks a piece, of course don't expect it to hold up against water compared to the original one Sony put in it.
I am considering buying an Xperia X because of the Wet finger tracking. My current Samsung doesn't support that, and since I do a bit of lobster and crab fishing, and I use an app (Fishing Points) to note what I get and where I put the pots, I am rather annoied with the Samsung since any drop of water on it will mess up my usage. And trying to dry out a phone in a small boat is kind of annoying. But then I see that the X doesn't support Qi wireless charging, and I have that in my home office, my car, on my motorcycle and next to my bed. Going back to where I have to actually plug in a cable seems so incredibly stone age. So are there any solutions for Qi compatible wireless charging that works on this, and that doesn't compromise waterproofing?
Mastiff said:
I am considering buying an Xperia X because of the Wet finger tracking. My current Samsung doesn't support that, and since I do a bit of lobster and crab fishing, and I use an app (Fishing Points) to note what I get and where I put the pots, I am rather annoied with the Samsung since any drop of water on it will mess up my usage. And trying to dry out a phone in a small boat is kind of annoying. But then I see that the X doesn't support Qi wireless charging, and I have that in my home office, my car, on my motorcycle and next to my bed. Going back to where I have to actually plug in a cable seems so incredibly stone age. So are there any solutions for Qi compatible wireless charging that works on this, and that doesn't compromise waterproofing?
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Yes, add a USB receiver.
Thanks, I see that you have that phone! You mean with the flat cable going into the battery bay? I did look into that, but found that it will compromise the waterproof seal. Or is there a way to do it that doesn't?
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Thanks, I see that you have that phone! You mean with the flat cable going into the battery bay? I did look into that, but found that it will compromise the waterproof seal. Or is there a way to do it that doesn't?
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It's a receiver that connects through the USB port of the phone, it do e's not affect any waterproof seal, although you probably need to dry the usb port before charging, this is the same with all phone if it just came out of water.
Thanks! But do you mean that I have to plug that in every time I need to charge the phone and then put it in the Qi charger, or that it's stuck to the outside of the phone? In the first case it's really just another way of plugging in a regular charger...
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Thanks! But do you mean that I have to plug that in every time I need to charge the phone and then put it in the Qi charger, or that it's stuck to the outside of the phone? In the first case it's really just another way of plugging in a regular charger...
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Go to ebay and search for qi receiver, there are many available, although depending which one you get will vary in quality.
Yeah, I've seen those. I'm afraid they will be ripped off in my pocket, I think. So maybe the best bet is two phones and a twin SIM, so I have one for regular use and one for fishing. Or wait until spring and see if Sony gets their act together and actually deliver an expensive phone with the most common wireless charging option.
Just use a case with the receiver, sony knows about qi, they have a offcial qi case for the Z5, but decided not to use qi, and opt for fast charging instead.
Good point, a thin case with the receiver inside would probably be a good solution! Thanks! And Sony didn't think that one through. It makes it less likely that Samsung people, who often have a bunch of QI stuff from their phones, will convert. Fast charging is OK, but I prefer to put the phone into the car holder or on the bedside table and start charging without having to plug anything.
This one could be the right type:
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Mastiff said:
This one could be the right type:
http://d3rmje198d1rhf.cloudfront.net/graphics/450pixelp/58836.jpg
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nillkin has the best receiver so far if you are in for a USB receiver, unlike the one's sold on ebay, they just use a thin sticker with the circuit in between, the nillkin uses thin plasic, and is very stable, I have the nillkin one for my XP and V20. USB is availabl;e in two version, A and B.
The offcial sony one is pretty thick, not worth buying, but that is for the Z5 only.
Thanks! I'll get that when I change phone, then. But the picture is of a case I can use on the phone, not a receiver.
In case anybody else wants to try this, it works. But not with the pictured case, that creates pressure on the back of the phone which gives color blotches on the screen. So I found my solution in a so called "Slim Rubber Gel Case Cover" and the Nillkin receiver. Problem solved, and it works quite nicely. I rarely need to to connect my phone with the USB, but it's quite easy to pop off the case and remove the receiver.