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I believe it is and it has definitely been on my wish-list ever since it first came out. Specifically the i, not the M version. But it has been a year and a half since it was launched, so I thought you guys, the owners, would be the perfect people to tell whether it's still a good buy
Firstly, could you tell me about how does it age? I mean, if you have it for longer than a year now, did it collect too many scratches or other signs of wear and tear? The build quality of the thing seems to be top notch, but I hope you guys can tell me whether it stands up against the everyday usage just as well
And secondly, I'm just going to list things I use my smartphone for and what I want from it and maybe you could tell me whether the Ri would be a good choice for me
Use for, do and want:
-compactness (I currently have a DEFY+ and I love its size, except for the thickness - this little boy sure is a fatty, but I think that the Ri is the perfect size and can be used with just one hand easily, correct?)
-good battery life (I keep my phone always connected, it's on WiFi when at home and on 2G while I'm anywhere out and sometimes on 3G+ when I need the speed for browsing or a quick download of something - the Ri should be good in this regard, because of the power optimisations coming from Intel, right?)
-music playing (my smartphone is my music player and one big plus for the i in the Moto range is the memory card slot. How is the quality of audio output, though, if you could comment on that?)
-enough power for multi-tasking (multi-tasking in my case = music playing + web browsing + writing a mail, for example. It should have plenty enough power for tasks like this, I think.)
-quick camera (the biggest problem I have with my DEFY is that Camera takes 5-6 seconds to start which makes it almost pointless for me The only times I would use my phone as a camera is when I need to capture something quickly and the Ri seems to be perfect for such occasions, because of the dedicated camera button and the speed of all camera operations)
-custom ROMs (one thing I love about the DEFY is that sooo many ROMs are available for it! on the other hand, it seems that development for the Ri is at a much lower level... maybe that will change with KitKat, ey? But I really wish there was some CyanogenMod available for it, it's really got a lot more to offer compared to AOSP )
Don't use for, don't need:
-gaming (I don't game on my phones and I just need enough graphics power to have a smooth UI experience throughout all apps and when browsing and for an occasional video, I guess. Nothing more.)
So... That's pretty much it, I guess. I'm sorry about the long post But please bear with me and give me a couple of answers Please
Cheers!
razr i defy+
in my pinion the razr i has an ideal pocket size, not as thich as the dey+, but screen size a little bit larger. the razr is robust (metal frame), it's not
water resistent but water potected (some type of coating). The display is, sharp with good colours. The display suffers only the things every
phone display suffers, nearly not readable in the sun and not matted (I wish one day there are matted displys for phones).
Scratches, the same as all others (gorilla glass or similar) is scratch resitant till a certain point, but only a tiny grain of sand can scratch it and maybe even a hrdened or coated metal (I use a pouch). For not being afraid of snd grains you need display with saphire glass.
I have Omar's ROM installed and this ROM is very responsive on the razr i with good battery life. i'm looking forward to kitkat too.
I'm satisfied with the razr i. The only phone I would give away the razr I, is an xperia z1compact (because ofit's water resistance and the CM support).
I think, considering your list, you'd be happy with the Razr I. It's a great Smartphone and since Motorola announced the update to KitKat it'll become a bit more up-to-date.
The Razr I is my daily phone for more than a year and I'm still satisfied with it.
It's very robust (almost no scratches) and has everything a good Smartphone needs.
Additionally I'd recommend you to take a look at the Moto G, if you haven't done it before. I think it's at least as good as the Razr I and a good, but not so old Smartphone.
I also did have the defy:
niksy+ said:
Firstly, could you tell me about how does it age? I mean, if you have it for longer than a year now, did it collect too many scratches or other signs of wear and tear? The build quality of the thing seems to be top notch, but I hope you guys can tell me whether it stands up against the everyday usage just as well
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Mine has a couple of heavy scratches on the border (it fall when I was running) but pretty good overall.
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Use for, do and want:
-compactness (I currently have a DEFY+ and I love its size, except for the thickness - this little boy sure is a fatty, but I think that the Ri is the perfect size and can be used with just one hand easily, correct?)
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yes, you get used to the size pretty quickly
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-good battery life (I keep my phone always connected, it's on WiFi when at home and on 2G while I'm anywhere out and sometimes on 3G+ when I need the speed for browsing or a quick download of something - the Ri should be good in this regard, because of the power optimisations coming from Intel, right?)
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Can't complain, but its not much better than say a defy+
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-music playing (my smartphone is my music player and one big plus for the i in the Moto range is the memory card slot. How is the quality of audio output, though, if you could comment on that?)
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Its not great, but its better than the defy
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-enough power for multi-tasking (multi-tasking in my case = music playing + web browsing + writing a mail, for example. It should have plenty enough power for tasks like this, I think.)
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-quick camera (the biggest problem I have with my DEFY is that Camera takes 5-6 seconds to start which makes it almost pointless for me The only times I would use my phone as a camera is when I need to capture something quickly and the Ri seems to be perfect for such occasions, because of the dedicated camera button and the speed of all camera operations)
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yess its freaking fast
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-custom ROMs (one thing I love about the DEFY is that sooo many ROMs are available for it! on the other hand, it seems that development for the Ri is at a much lower level... maybe that will change with KitKat, ey? But I really wish there was some CyanogenMod available for it, it's really got a lot more to offer compared to AOSP )
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not so much scene for this phone, but I rather have a good stock experience than an half backed custom rom.
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Don't use for, don't need:
-gaming (I don't game on my phones and I just need enough graphics power to have a smooth UI experience throughout all apps and when browsing and for an occasional video, I guess. Nothing more.)
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I use it for gaming, and I'm pretty happy (ppsspp, and epsxe with the ipega, plus some native games and I'm really happy)
I don't know about serbia, but around here, the razr i is the cheapest phone to get kitkat that you can buy (yes, more cheaper than the moto g) If you are on a budget, its still a good option.
paulle said:
The display suffers only the things every phone display suffers, nearly not readable in the sun and not matted (I wish one day there are matted displys for phones).
Scratches, the same as all others (gorilla glass or similar) is scratch resitant till a certain point, but only a tiny grain of sand can scratch it and maybe even a hrdened or coated metal (I use a pouch). For not being afraid of snd grains you need display with saphire glass.
I have Omar's ROM installed and this ROM is very responsive on the razr i with good battery life. i'm looking forward to kitkat too.
I'm satisfied with the razr i. The only phone I would give away the razr I, is an xperia z1compact (because ofit's water resistance and the CM support).
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Display - Oh... I read the reviews and they all said great things about the display and its contrast when outside. Is it at least good outside, when not in direct sunlight? The DEFY's display is completely unreadable in direct sunlight
Gorilla Glass - Yes, I do know it doesn't offer complete protection from scratches, but it's still a huge advance from standard glass, imho. The Gorilla Glass on my DEFY was great for me, it has been actively used for two and a half years now and it does have a tiny scratch or too, but they aren't deep and they are hardly visible at any angles, I don't even remember where they are until I search for them. And I know what sapphire glass is, my dad's got a swiss army watch with it, it is incredible!
Z1 Compact - Absolutely awesome device! But I've got two problems with it - the price is MUUCH higher than Razr i and it's not a Motorola... I'm still a huge Moto fan
To tell you the truth, I would possibly rather have a Droid Mini (which is the actual Razr i/M successor, with a 720p 4.3" display and even more compact than Ri (it's noticeably shorter)), but it's only available in America and shipping and taxes would make it too expensive for me But the phone is a beast as much as that Z1 Compact, imho, although it does lack waterproofness. All Droid Minis are factory unlocked and work anywhere in the world, if you didn't know And the new Ultra line (which Mini is a part of) all have the Moto X8 chip which is in the X, as well, so there's touchless control and all that... A really sweet device
j0n1th4n said:
The Razr I is my daily phone for more than a year and I'm still satisfied with it.
It's very robust (almost no scratches) and has everything a good Smartphone needs.
Additionally I'd recommend you to take a look at the Moto G, if you haven't done it before. I think it's at least as good as the Razr I and a good, but not so old Smartphone.
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Age - Year and a half is a long period, it's good to know that you're still satisfied with it. Could you tell me if the battery is still as good as it was when you bought it? I'm kinda worried that it will start losing capacity quickly, which would be a big problem Actually, if you could tell me anything more about battery life, that would be great :good:
Moto G - a great device, but simply not for me. The build quality, camera, memory card slot, size - all in favour of the Ri The G does have more horsepower and a better (actually bigger, but not sure whether bigger = better) screen, but it's plastic and the bezels around the screen suck and it's veery limited on memory... I love what Moto has done, but it's really not for me
YaPeL said:
Battery:
Can't complain, but its not much better than say a defy+
Price:
I don't know about serbia, but around here, the razr i is the cheapest phone to get kitkat that you can buy (yes, more cheaper than the moto g) If you are on a budget, its still a good option.
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Battery - What does "not much better than a defy+" mean? Because my defy+ did last for 3 days often when it was new and on the stock Gingerbread ROM, but now I have to recharge it every night The only time it lasts for 2 days is when I'm at home for those two days and barely use it
Price - The Ri is cheaper than a 16gb Moto G here, as well
And yes, I am on a tight budget, to be honest. I believe the Ri is the best I could get for my money, but I'm trying to triple-check it with you guys, since I will probably be stuck with it for at least a year and a half after purchase
Thanks for helping out, mates
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I believe it is and it has definitely been on my wish-list ever since it first came out. Specifically the i, not the M version. But it has been a year and a half since it was launched, so I thought you guys, the owners, would be the perfect people to tell whether it's still a good buy
Firstly, could you tell me about how does it age? I mean, if you have it for longer than a year now, did it collect too many scratches or other signs of wear and tear? The build quality of the thing seems to be top notch, but I hope you guys can tell me whether it stands up against the everyday usage just as well
And secondly, I'm just going to list things I use my smartphone for and what I want from it and maybe you could tell me whether the Ri would be a good choice for me
Use for, do and want:
-compactness (I currently have a DEFY+ and I love its size, except for the thickness - this little boy sure is a fatty, but I think that the Ri is the perfect size and can be used with just one hand easily, correct?)
-good battery life (I keep my phone always connected, it's on WiFi when at home and on 2G while I'm anywhere out and sometimes on 3G+ when I need the speed for browsing or a quick download of something - the Ri should be good in this regard, because of the power optimisations coming from Intel, right?)
-music playing (my smartphone is my music player and one big plus for the i in the Moto range is the memory card slot. How is the quality of audio output, though, if you could comment on that?)
-enough power for multi-tasking (multi-tasking in my case = music playing + web browsing + writing a mail, for example. It should have plenty enough power for tasks like this, I think.)
-quick camera (the biggest problem I have with my DEFY is that Camera takes 5-6 seconds to start which makes it almost pointless for me The only times I would use my phone as a camera is when I need to capture something quickly and the Ri seems to be perfect for such occasions, because of the dedicated camera button and the speed of all camera operations)
-custom ROMs (one thing I love about the DEFY is that sooo many ROMs are available for it! on the other hand, it seems that development for the Ri is at a much lower level... maybe that will change with KitKat, ey? But I really wish there was some CyanogenMod available for it, it's really got a lot more to offer compared to AOSP )
Don't use for, don't need:
-gaming (I don't game on my phones and I just need enough graphics power to have a smooth UI experience throughout all apps and when browsing and for an occasional video, I guess. Nothing more.)
So... That's pretty much it, I guess. I'm sorry about the long post But please bear with me and give me a couple of answers Please
Cheers!
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I had the "common" Defy, not the plus one, before the Razr I. What a tough phone, I really enjoyed that, upgraded the CyanogenMod's until the ICS, then I sold it to a friend... whom killed him sinking it in a glass of Red Label whisky! Poor phone :crying:. But let's talk about the Ri. I bought mine in December, 2012. Now, I was about to buy another phone, but the news about upgrade to KK changed my mind, and I'll keep it a little more months. The Ri isn't water and dust proof as Defy, but it's tough anyway. It fell in the ground after 1 week I received it, and made a VERY little scratch in the bottom left metal corner! The Kevlar, in practice, doesn't make it feel tougher, but helps a lot about finger prints usually is visible in the back of other phones, in Ri is extremely reduced.
-compactness: In comparison to Defy, it's MUCH thinner! I use my Ri with a silicon case, and screen shield, and when I take out the case, it makes a huge difference, in weight, and dimensions, and the feel that metal + kevlar gives you. Yes, it can be used with only one hand easily.
-good battery life: It depends a lot of use. I use my Ri with static wallpaper and auto brightness. 2G/3G always ON, 40% of the time in WIFI, a few times checking Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, some SMS's and a few calls, it can handle from 8am till 10pm~01am most of times, in my style of use.
-music playing: I have to admit that Ri isn't my main music player, but my tablet Asus Transformer. Anyway, I have PowerAmp installed in Ri too, it has a good sound quality, the speaker could be louder, it reduces the bass to avoid dirtortions. The earphone that comes with Ri is an ordinary one, with a mic. If you really like sound quality, I recommend you to buy a good one, if you don't have already done.
-enough power for multi-tasking: It can handle this case of Multi Tasking easily. It won't be as fast as the top phones, but it won't disappoint you in your situation of multi tasking.
-quick camera: The camera opens REALLY fast. The case I use in my Ri, doesn't have the hole to press the camera button, so sometimes when I take my phone, accidentaly press the camera button and it instantly turns on. In quality of image, it's more than enough to post in Facebook, and this social websites. But looking deeply, in dark situations, it shows a lot of noise, if not used in Night mode (use in Auto, for ex.). The videos in Full HD are awesome, sound too, but the against part, is that if you don't get steady, they'll be shaky very easily.
-custom ROMs: This is weakest point of Ri, because of Intel processor, it makes to get the drivers much harder for the developers. But I'm fine with the way stock JB is, and Kit Kat is about to come. I had already passed some bad situations changing ROM's in my old Defy, so the more you stand in a stock ROM, better it'll be. With KK, Ri will be up to date, so there's no reason for a while to search for other ROMS.
I don't like gaming in the phones too. Although, Ri can handle most of them, it heats a little, nothing that makes unconfortable, like most of the other phones in the market.
Sometimes, my Ri starts to get a little laggy, but I learned a trick, that anyone can use it if you want: the cache memory from apps. When the laggy starts, just go to Settings, and clear the caches from the main apps (Facebook, Instagram, for ex., which ones can reach +100MB of cache quickly).
It's a good phone, worth it for it's price, but it will get outdated, as I bet that KK will be the last update for Ri. As someone told before, there is the Moto G, that is newer, and can receive another update, but it loses against the Ri in the lack of SD card, and camera.
Sorry for any mistake in my English, I really hope you understood everything I wrote, because it's my routine with Razr I.
You can also consider waiting few days for Moto E launch, but if you don't like Moto G, wou probably wouldn't like E as well ;]
I bought my Razr i just about month ago and it was great choice.
hey there, what an interesting subject !
I had similar thoughts to yours about a months ago.. and then I bought myself a white, used Razr I
I have to say that I'm very satisfied with it. Previously I owned a Samsung Galaxy S Plus (nice phone but the plastic-metal frame around the screen made it sooo ugly) and before this I owned a Motorola Defy whitch I practically felt in love with and I really liked Motorola for the quality of the product.
With the Razr I am now finally 100% happy. This phone is very powerfull - its flashing fast, the UI is super smooth on stock and every app and game Ive tried works amazingly great and I had no problems or disappointments at all.
Now I'll try to quick-answer to you questions basing on my experiences:
- multitasking - PERFECT
- battery life - you can easily get 2 days of usage with all the extras turned on all the time BUT with programs like DS battery saver installed (turns off all the connectivity after screen is turned off and just regulairly turns it on) and maybe other apps which prolong the battery use. WIthout these apps one day is easily achievable even with gaming, GPS, and web browsing etc.
- sound - really good, speaker isn;t as good as in DEFY (Defy's speaker is a legend !!) but its also loud and nice to listen to, not like in all the samsung galaxy S plus or LG nexus. With the headphones the quality is good for me, comperable to my iPod classic 5g.
- camera - super fast but the photo quality is not fantastic (Samsung S plus 5MP takes better pics), but still great, movies quality is super sharp !
- size and quality of make - the size is ideal, HEAVY is RELIABLE ("Lock stock and two smoking barrels" ;D ) but my first experiences were a bit stressing - the phone felt as it could fall out of my hands - after getting used to it it feels better. Im still thinking whether to get a case for it or not.
Generally its a great phone that I would honestly recomend, if you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Display - Oh... I read the reviews and they all said great things about the display and its contrast when outside. Is it at least good outside, when not in direct sunlight? The DEFY's display is completely unreadable in direct sunlight
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its passable with the brightness on medium, its better than the defy in every aspect but definition, you may see some pixels on the white letters, but you get used to it, and once you go amoled, you never go back (?.
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Battery - What does "not much better than a defy+" mean? Because my defy+ did last for 3 days often when it was new and on the stock Gingerbread ROM, but now I have to recharge it every night The only time it lasts for 2 days is when I'm at home for those two days and barely use it
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I get the same as with the defy, a day and a half, a day-
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And yes, I am on a tight budget, to be honest. I believe the Ri is the best I could get for my money, but I'm trying to triple-check it with you guys, since I will probably be stuck with it for at least a year and a half after purchase
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go for it, try to avoid the white version if you can.
Well,
I am on my second Razr I at the moment. When it came out, I was really happy to be one of the first to have the Atom based Smartphone. Here my thoughts about the phone:
Pros:
- Awesome battery life. I switched from a Galaxy S2 to the Razr I and I was happy to at last be able to last through the day. When the Razr I came out, I could hardly think of a phone that could beat it's battery life. Then, a year ago I moved and got a new phone, the Razr I was still the best option considering battery life. The "old Razr I" is now used by my wife, she also loves it.
- Good build Quality
- Excellent size for people who don't like having such big phones.
- Nice screen quality. That does't mean that it has the best screen, I just see it has a good contrast level (blacks are really black, colors are vivid).
Cons:
- Many apps were (or are still) not compatible with Intel based phones. One example was (now it works) Firefox. It isn't a stopper for me, but it could be for some people.
- Really few custom roms.
- Updates from Motorola... Well, its a shame but I see it's just the same with other vendors...
- Battery not removable. Bad if the phone hangs (has happened to me once or twice, rebooting it is not very normal-user-friendly). However, after having the first phone with relatively heavy usage since it was launched, battery still performs without any noticeable difference.
- The Aluminium Bezel easily scratches, and scratches then are... aluminium color, so for me using some kind of case is a must (imho).
- Even though it supports Hyperthreading, it is just not as fast as a 4-core chip...
So, if I was going to get a new phone soon, I probably would consider some other (newer / more actual) model. There are plenty of 2000mAh+ phones on the market, I would just look for options where battery life is at least as good as the Razr I and I would probably go that way. However, that doesn't mean that the Razr is not actual anymore, I think we will stick with them for at least one more year...
Regards
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- Updates from Motorola... Well, its a shame but I see it's just the same with other vendors...
- Battery not removable. Bad if the phone hangs (has happened to me once or twice, rebooting it is not very normal-user-friendly). However, after having the first phone with relatively heavy usage since it was launched, battery still performs without any noticeable difference.
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-Yeah well I think motorola is the best in this regard, also the razr i its one of the oldest non-nexus device to get kitkat (if not the oldest)
- Just press powerbutton + vol up + vol down and you will reboot your device, no matter how bad it hung it will work.
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- Just press powerbutton + vol up + vol down and you will reboot your device, no matter how bad it hung it will work.
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Yeah, I found out after the first time it got stuck... However, I don't see it as a very normal-user-friendly feature... Any normal user would remove the battery, and if it's not possible, they would keep the powerbutton pressed, but I can hardly imagine someone trying it in combination with other buttons (well, the Razr I only has these three )... I could imagine people letting the battery drain and rescuing the phone after a full charge...
I'm glad to say that after more than a year with this phone, I still wouldn't give it up and would whole-heartedly recommend it.
On the case of durability, I bought a bodyglove case for mine and it's practically indestructible. I mean, drop on concrete from five feet indestructible. Didn't even bother putting a screen protector on it, I let the Gorilla Glass do its job. Only a minor scratch after months without one, from one of my keys. The aluminum frame will scratch, but that's expected.
Battery life is, in one word, MAGNIFICENT. I used to be really frugal with it and never used 3G unless I needed it, and I could make it through twelve hours of light use with 60% left. Now I just leave my 3G on all the time, and I still make it through about 12 hours of heavy use (trivia crack got me) with about 40% left. It's truly fantastic.
Multitasking is fine for what you plan on using it for, I usually have music playing while I'm on it. As a music player, I love it. 32gb card keeps my whole collection, and I use Shuttle for a really nice, clean experience.
The camera is more than adequate, and very fast. Literally launches in less than a second. Pictures often come out grainy, especially if you zoom in it. But it's still a very good camera.
On roms, it's pretty meh. Not too many roms to choose from, but we have many dedicated members who have put some amazing roms out. I'm on omar's rom and it's quite fantastic.
Overall, it's a great phone. If you can find for a decent price, I'd go for it. Even with low price contenders like the Moto G (which has KK, a +) I would still recommend it. Definitely a good buy.
Do you want a compact phone? Get it. Otherwise get the moto g which is great. The I is fast, getting KitKat, the only downside is that it has only one gigabyte of RAM which us notable like once a day after heavy browsing. Speed wise its fast, real racing works nicely(it's the only hardware intensegame that I could test, I don't play on the phone). Browsing is fast but pages will have to reload after multi tasking more often then not. As I already said, if u want the size go for it, if you don't care or are after size don't.
I bought the Moto G for my father and he didn't want it so i decided to keep it. I have the Razr I and i have the moto X. Long story short, i sold the Moto G. Why? Well the screen technology is not as good as the amoled that is on the razr i. Yes it was fast, but the Moto G (at the time) didnt take an SD. The phone was considerably bulkier (and yes i have a Moto X that i use as my daily driver).
I am anxiously awaiting KitKat upgrade because the phone used to run out of memory and lag some once too many applications were running. Everyone compliments me on the Razr I and its screen when i travel.
Hi there, just adding, i bought a Rarzr i recently (around 2 month) well i have to say : totally worth it ( and i had a one X and a SGS III before )
It is the 1st one i keep at stock ROM plus the battery last quite long and it feels smooth and snappy
All i wait now is the 4.4 update...
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go for it, try to avoid the white version if you can.
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why should one avoid the white version ? ..
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why should one avoid the white version ? ..
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No kevlar. (Although its more beatiful)
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No kevlar. (Although its more beatiful)
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All right, i havnt even noticed how does it make a difference in practical way? Is kevlar lighter, protects the back of the phone stronger or radiates the hot temperature from the cpu better?
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All right, i havnt even noticed how does it make a difference in practical way? Is kevlar lighter, protects the back of the phone stronger or radiates the hot temperature from the cpu better?
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Well english is not my first tounge so I don't really know how to explain it exactly but some people reported that the "^threads^ of their back started to fall out", anyway is not something that happened to everyone, so maybe you got a good one.
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I know since G Flex 2 is just announced. I actually like the Flex. Just wanted to know if anyone has any peculiar inputs about it. Things I need to be careful about...?
Does anyone get a headache due to the bent screen?
Thanks!
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I know since G Flex 2 is just announced. I actually like the Flex. Just wanted to know if anyone has any peculiar inputs about it. Things I need to be careful about...?
Does anyone get a headache due to the bent screen?
Thanks!
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Great phone, IMO I like the design of the old flex better than the new one. I was planning on updating because the phone does have a sub par screen ( eg: the slight ghosting and 720p) but I couldn't go without the notification light on the back! No headaches from the screen at all, the real headaches are from the small number of devs working on this phone! Once the flex gets lollipop this phone will be golden.
would buy
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Great phone, IMO I like the design of the old flex better than the new one. I was planning on updating because the phone does have a sub par screen ( eg: the slight ghosting and 720p) but I couldn't go without the notification light on the back! No headaches from the screen at all, the real headaches are from the small number of devs working on this phone! Once the flex gets lollipop this phone will be golden.
would buy
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Thanks so much dear friend...I was just wondering if reading books is an issue. The 5.5 Flex2 would be great I know.. But the price is great too and this worries me.
The Flex original looks awesome...not very worried about the 720p display unless its a real hindrance.
I would mostly be doing:
Texting(WhatsApp)
Instagram
Flipboard
Google Books
and other regular browsing.
Occasionally movies watching...
What do you recommend then...the new Flex or the Original?
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Thanks so much dear friend...I was just wondering if reading books is an issue. The 5.5 Flex2 would be great I know.. But the price is great too and this worries me.
The Flex original looks awesome...not very worried about the 720p display unless its a real hindrance.
I would mostly be doing:
Texting(WhatsApp)
Instagram
Flipboard
Google Books
and other regular browsing.
Occasionally movies watching...
What do you recommend then...the new Flex or the Original?
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Then i would definitely recommend the first one. Bigger battery life, bigger screen and MUCH smaller price tag.
The screen really isn't even noticeably an issue unless you are on lowest brightness all the time (like me), but even then the screen is still pretty nice looking. The flex's poled screen would be great for reading with a black background on white text because it really produces deep blacks and uses no battery doing so!
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Then i would definitely recommend the first one. Bigger battery life, bigger screen and MUCH smaller price tag.
The screen really isn't even noticeably an issue unless you are on lowest brightness all the time (like me), but even then the screen is still pretty nice looking. The flex's poled screen would be great for reading with a black background on white text because it really produces deep blacks and uses no battery doing so!
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I've heard a lot about the legendary battery life...let's see how the Flex2 is priced..but so far...the flex original is my fav.
Thanks again..also...does it slow down with a tons of apps installed/?
Well, the gf2 is going to be priced higher than the g3. So expect 250$ to 350$ carrier pricing.
I've not experienced any slow down with tonns of apps installed.
Make sure though, if buying online, not to get a Chinese or Japan version.
I've been very happy with my flex, and came from the note2 which has mega dev support.
The 720p p-oled screen isn't as bad as many say. If you hold it 3inches from your face, you'll notice its not perfect, but at a normal 12inches or more its just fine.
Battery life is just stellar. There isn't much bad to say about it, other than taking slightly longer to charge.
All in all, if you want a large screen, top shelf battery life, and a dam near unbreakable phone, then the OG Flex is definitely not a bad choice.
on my flex last night I got 6.5 hours of screen on time and 17 hours on battery and was only down to 25% battery life and it said estimated life left was 3 hours
Thanks both you guys! Looking forward to get the Flex!!
na
Run run run FAST Dont waste your time on the FLEX
I wish there was a way to NOT thank someone, other than just not THANKING them...? Ickyz, ? indeed.
Really like this phone. Except the lack of development.
As far as F2 smaller screen & poorer battery life. If the F2 unsubsidized price is the same as the original ~$940 USD it's going to keep a lot of people away.
If the Flex was the same price as comparable Samsungs it'd have just as much development. But pricing it $300-$400 more than the Samsungs is crushing the development of it.
Hi to all.
I'm planing to by another phone. Budget is limited so there is not to much to pick.
Xperia seems good option because of big screen, LTE connectivity, premium design, important to me a very good camera and at the end is a flagship, but an old one, and that is my only concern.
So, my question is, should i by some newer(new) budget mid ranger or should give a try to Xperia Z? What is your experience with XZ?
Thanks
Ive had mine for a year now and do not intend to replace it any time soon. It runs all the current apps and games!
If your budget is tight, then get a Moto G, or OnePlus One or Nexus 5. Plenty of well specced devices around.
xperia u20i said:
Hi to all.
I'm planing to by another phone. Budget is limited so there is not to much to pick.
Xperia seems good option because of big screen, LTE connectivity, premium design, important to me a very good camera and at the end is a flagship, but an old one, and that is my only concern.
So, my question is, should i by some newer(new) budget mid ranger or should give a try to Xperia Z? What is your experience with XZ?
Thanks
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I bought mine 1 year and a half ago, and I can't be happier.
It's an excellent phone, great processor, ram, camera, water proof, design, development ( I had Lollipop from 1st day like a Nexus ), fullhd, 5"...
No need to spend 500€ to get a "rocket" smartphone.
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Thanks guys for the reply, for now is tight.
I would like to hear more opinions of owners.
What about screen on time? Now when is for example more then one year old? I don't play heavy games, mostly surfing, taking pictures, little facebook, and a lot texting and calling. And flashing roms of course
For me everything over 3 hours is good.
U can get maximum of 4.5 hours if u r not a gamer ( my experience with games 4 hour screen on time).. May b u will get around 5 hours screen on time if u play with some tweaks..
I bought my XZ this last year in November and I couldn't be happier. Ok, screen on time is not the best out there but, at least for me, it's enough. SOT performance goes between 3-4,5 h, which IMHO I think isn't bad. You could also underclock/undervolt it in case you want to expand its autonomy a bit else.
It depends on the price you are getting at, I would say go for z1 if the price difference is minimal. I've used both, choose the one in your budget
dont buy a Sony phone, they about to go out of business lol
I suggest no.
Xperia Z has following cons:
- Back glas went off due to bad glue.
- CPU throtthling while gaming due to thermal problems, games start to stutter. Device is getting hot while gaming. On 4.4.4 it a little bit better.
- Wifi and Bluettooth disconnects. Search for forums with this problem. You will hate that problem when you decide to get a Smartband. There i no fix for that.
- Weak Battery. I heavily modified my stock rom with tweaks for longer lasting battery, i reduced wakelocks, etc, but still only 1,5 days only with normal use (i dont use LTE). It loses too much battery on standby.
G1_enthusiast said:
dont buy a Sony phone, they about to go out of business lol
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So you came here from the HTC forum, proud of that you succeeded in unlocking the achievement? I find this behaviour a tiny bit bizarre, wondering what are you trying to prove? I mean, if you worship HTC, please remain in your little temple there. There's plenty of terrorist everywhere and nobody needs another one to come, terrorise Xperia or potential Xperia users.
Back on topic:
If you like Sony, just get another Xperia. They're not going out of business anytime soon as if anyone bothered to read, they're exploring (highly unlikely though) to start a jv or selling the business to another company. Of course if that happens, which have a remote chance, you're probably still be receiving smartphone support in the new business arrangement.
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jayp57 said:
I suggest no.
Xperia Z has following cons:
- Back glas went off due to bad glue.
- CPU throtthling while gaming due to thermal problems, games start to stutter. Device is getting hot while gaming. On 4.4.4 it a little bit better.
- Wifi and Bluettooth disconnects. Search for forums with this problem. You will hate that problem when you decide to get a Smartband. There i no fix for that.
- Weak Battery. I heavily modified my stock rom with tweaks for longer lasting battery, i reduced wakelocks, etc, but still only 1,5 days only with normal use (i dont use LTE). It loses too much battery on standby.
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- Back glass just fine, over 1.5 years old
- Name one device that doesn't throttle (and doesn't stutter while throttled)
- Wifi and Bluetooth fine as long as you don't use a smartband
- Battery life is average, not really bad but nothing special either, standy is great with the right kernel
Thats my Xperience, no major problems so far.
But really better deals for the money out there.
I guess it depends on the price..
But in today's terms the XZ really isn't great. Like others have said, newer mid-range phones have overtaken the XZ.
Battery life has always been the only major drawback for me using the XZ. In this day and age you should be able to use your phone as much as you like, not holding off reading emails / replying to tweets otherwise it'll die before you get home
You're lucky to get 4 hours screen on time, it's not exactly efficient in standby mode either.
the amount of money you are going to spent just get One Plus One or if you are on budget cost wait till you got abit more money to get a better device
Well, it's a wonderful phone, the main issue with it is the battery
As others said if your gaming is at minimum (1 hour Max a day) you can actually get it to work 8 hours, even more if no gaming and used the stamina mode
Other than that, it's easy to root at all times and relatively easy to flash and customize.
And it will be officially update to lollipop.
I say if z1 is in your range get it only for the battery issue.. If not the XZ is great
Z is a great device.. But u can also buy 1+1 since it has Z2 specs and a better front cam.. It lacks Water resistance like XZ though and the multimedia features won't be like a SONY.. So choose ur needs first and then select the one suitable.. Although i haven't experienced any of the issues which are mentioned in the thread yet.. I hope i won't too.. But still my XZ can beat the s**t outta One M7 & all their desire phones, any iPhone, any S**tsung.. If you are a rough handler of the phone, i suggest u to buy XZ coz its built better and 1+1 seems kinda delicate compared to Sony..
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Weren't you the one telling me I don't know what I'm talking about because of spelling mistakes?
G1_enthusiast has quoted you on xda-developers!
I'll believe you once you learn how to spell and put in some correct punctuation.
lol what company hire this moron? he cant even finished a sentence correctly.
I most probably will take XZ if i get good offer. But also maybe wait for month or two to see what will came out.
I also considering to buy SGS4 but i prefer Sony over Samsung. Only reason to take S4 will be the battery life. But like i said before i can live with 3+ hours of sot. Currently i'm using LG O4X which have vary bad sot. 2:30 is max that i can get. And all kind of problems with RIL, it's really "demanding" device, thanks to developers i still using him, but i think not for long.
Thanks
Azurren said:
I guess it depends on the price..
But in today's terms the XZ really isn't great. Like others have said, newer mid-range phones have overtaken the XZ.
Battery life has always been the only major drawback for me using the XZ. In this day and age you should be able to use your phone as much as you like, not holding off reading emails / replying to tweets otherwise it'll die before you get home
You're lucky to get 4 hours screen on time, it's not exactly efficient in standby mode either.
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Can you spell out some of those mid-range phones that are better than the XZ? my GF wants a new phone, and i cant seem to find a device thats as thin as the Z, has a fullHD 5" screen and 2gigs RAM and a 5.0 update for similar money...
this really isnt a sarcastic question. I just want to know what are those mid-range devices with these specs, so i can buy her a better phone and save some cash?
btw with heavy usage my Z never died on me until i came home(which means the whole day). im sorry if you use battery hogging apps that dont let your device sleep when you turn off the screen...
@Tommy-Geenexus
Do you really suggest that old spec phone to buy someone, with known not solved software problems on top of serious casing and thermal design flaws?
There are better options on the market. For that money you can have a LG G2 or a Galaxy S4 or a Honor 6 or One+ One.
Hello!
Go to red arrow in case you don't want to read my story
My phone broke a week ago(Xperia Z1) and Sony's customer service won't repair it because it was rooted and they will destroy it so I'm through with their bs lol
I looked up what phones I could get that had specs but there weren't many phones available, they seem to be able to sell anything with sh*tty specs here in Belgium xD
The moto X was one of the phones, the other phone was the oneplus one but even though it's a great device, my devices usually have hardware defects and need to be sent back and I've heard about the terrible customer service and I am not in the mood for bad customer service(Looking at you Sony!)
----> Now here is my question:
Love the specs, love how the device looks, storage is only 16gb but that shouldn't be an issue (XZ1 is also 16gb) but the ONLY thing steering me away from buying it is it's battery... because it is only 2300mAh I am really worried if it will last me a day! The AMOLED display should certainly help if you check the time often but I'm not sure about it!
How is the battery life guys, is it good on lollipop and to Custom ROM users: How is the battery life compared to stock, better, worse or about the same
My usage:
Basic apps like facebook, instagram, ...
Basic games like flappy bird, (I do not play games as GTA on my phone, I have a nexus 7 for that)
Lots and lots of music!
barely any calling
EDIT: If I buy a 4g device in Europe, what model will I get? (XT10..)
Thank you in advance for replying to my question!
Greetings,
noahvt
This is the wrong device for you, don't buy it. The battery life of this one isn't bad, but its only 2300mah, which is only enough to get from morning till evening on medium use. Expect about 3 to 3.5hrs screen on time.
People do not purchase Motorola devices for custom roms, because its already stock Android with some light, but useful customization. Most people who use Moto X do not install custom roms because it would lose those Motorola features. There are not many custom roms for it. Also there is more chance of permanently brick a Motorola if you don't know what you're doing. If you want custom roms, I suggest you get the upcoming Nexus phone this year.
I suggest looking at the two latest Moto X which will have better battery life. The flagship Moto X Style (3000mah), and the midrange Moto X Play (3630mah). They both have microSD card so you can store lots of media. This Moto X 2014 do not have microSD card.
You might be interested in the Moto G 3rd gen as well if you are not playing any heavy games. It's a budget phone, but with decent specs if you get the version with 2GB ram, have microSD and the battery life is supposed to last very long.
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How is the battery life guys, is it good on lollipop and to Custom ROM users: How is the battery life compared to stock, better, worse or about the same
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I normally go on the engadget battery tests to give a ball-park idea. The Moto X 2014 did about 10.5 hours of video usage, the Z1 gave "over 12" though they don't say how much over 12 it was.
Looking at that, it seems to depend how you rate the Z1 battery. If it's only just adequate then perhaps it might be best to look elsewhere. I find the battery OK to go from morning to bed time but I generally have quite low screen on time.
My normal usage is Spotify over bluetooth (perhaps 1.5 hours a day), text messages, web browsing, Viber messaging and a little Words with Friends. It generally results in 2 hours on screen time, and I'll make it to 11pm with 30% left. Also of note, that would be 80% on WiFi (I have good WiFi at home and work) and 20% 4G. Performance would vary a fair bit if it was the other way around.
Edit: this is stock lollipop.
Hey guys I'm about to buy a refurbished Xperia Z from Amazon, but I'd like you guys to give me some advice. Do you recommend me? My main concerns are battery, display(they say blacks are grayish), camera and sound. I come from a galaxy s3 and lumia 640 XL(maybe someone has/had one of these smartphones and could give me some thoughts). I suppose the performance is great. I also noticed the device has some pretty good community and development(which the s3 lacks a bit)-which is also very important to me... am I right? Also, how does AOSP-based lollipop(may I dare and also say marshmallow ) run on it? Sorry guys for too many questions and also sorry for my english.
Best regards!!
What can I say...
FIRST- if you're buying it for $100 or less maybe it is till a good deal, otherwise maybe it is better to see at other low-to-mid-range
SECOND- yes, the performance is good, even better with lollipop, screen looks better now (maybe sonybravia got better, maybe because lollipop has more white in it and the white is being displayed better), but anyway you have to UNDERCLOCK it in order to get a decent battery life
THIRD- battery life is very disappointing, you HAVE to underclock it and root it and greenify it to get any good battery life, unless you can charge it every 12 hours
FOURTH - the device is getting older and so the interest in this device (im talking about support from devs)
FIFTH - the phone gets hot, like really really hot when you're using it playing games (unless you underclock it), and since the back cover is only a adhesive line, when it gets hotter with the help off the Nfc antenna (which is set to push against the backcover) the backcover gets up and looses its waterproofness
SIX- the flaps - the damn flaps- they're everywhere - and you need to open them every-time you charge the phone, put on the headphones, remove the sim, remove the microSD, and they tend to get loose with time especially the one of the charger since you need to charge it frequently
NOW... that I told you about it downsides, its not a bad phone nowdays, it has a big and very beautiful display, connectivity is like the best i've ever tried, performance is pretty good (cpu + gpu ), camera performs really well - especially in macro, dev support for now is good.
Overall for someone who has it I think it can take another one or two years, but I personally would not buy it unless I find it for cheap or cannot buy a used phone. Personally I would look into a HTC M8 or a LG G3, maybe even used.
You decide
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What can I say...
FIRST- if you're buying it for $100 or less maybe it is till a good deal, otherwise maybe it is better to see at other low-to-mid-range
SECOND- yes, the performance is good, even better with lollipop, screen looks better now (maybe sonybravia got better, maybe because lollipop has more white in it and the white is being displayed better), but anyway you have to UNDERCLOCK it in order to get a decent battery life
THIRD- battery life is very disappointing, you HAVE to underclock it and root it and greenify it to get any good battery life, unless you can charge it every 12 hours
FOURTH - the device is getting older and so the interest in this device (im talking about support from devs)
FIFTH - the phone gets hot, like really really hot when you're using it playing games (unless you underclock it), and since the back cover is only a adhesive line, when it gets hotter with the help off the Nfc antenna (which is set to push against the backcover) the backcover gets up and looses its waterproofness
SIX- the flaps - the damn flaps- they're everywhere - and you need to open them every-time you charge the phone, put on the headphones, remove the sim, remove the microSD, and they tend to get loose with time especially the one of the charger since you need to charge it frequently
NOW... that I told you about it downsides, its not a bad phone nowdays, it has a big and very beautiful display, connectivity is like the best i've ever tried, performance is pretty good (cpu + gpu ), camera performs really well - especially in macro, dev support for now is good.
Overall for someone who has it I think it can take another one or two years, but I personally would not buy it unless I find it for cheap or cannot buy a used phone. Personally I would look into a HTC M8 or a LG G3, maybe even used.
You decide
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Thank you so much for your elaborated answer You really made me think about it.
FIRST- it costs me about $160(in a very good condition) and I really can't pay any more than this for a smartphone. It's actually a pretty good deal for what it normally costs in my country. If you/somebody could recommend me a better phone for this price point(taking into consideration the development community)...
SECOND- good to know.
THIRD- well I have to say it sounds dissapointing. Underclocking...doesn't sound that good to me... although I'd have no problem using greenify. 12 hours with 4g on? What's the usage?(heavy...moderate...)
FOURTH- this is the first thing I look when looking for an android device. If it doesn't allow custom ROMs and doesn't have a decent community behind then I don't buy it.
FIFTH- the "gettin really hot" thing sounds also really dissapointin. I'm not a heavy gamer but I do like to play graphic-intensive games from time to time. So is it really that annoing? About the waterproofness... really not important to me.
SIX- pretty annoing huh? Especially the headphones thing. What if you cut them out? You think there'd be any inconvenience on doing this aside from loosing the waterproof thing(and design of course)?
Well... so yeah some bad news for me here. But I can't find a decent phone wich also has community behind for this price. And another which makes me go for it are the 2GB of RAM.
So I wait for some other answers too guys
Also read my first post's EDIT.
Buying today XZ is stupid... seriously.
When I bought my XZ price of Z1compact was almost the same and it still is, its 20$-30$ difference for most of time(New XZ cost about 180$ z1c 200$)
And for that price you can buy WAY better phones, starting from Galaxy S4 to LG G series. And you want to stick to Sony you can get even z1 or used z2
As far as I love this phone I would not recommend it to anyone, battery is below average, camera is worst than my old Arc S, and those cover flaps are pain in the A##
This is best example of phone that look good, but those small bugs in everyday usage make it annoying to use...
And yes I still use it :] Because after using new phones... I found out that most of them are the same: average battery, and looots of small bugs that make them annoying after some time. So I decide to change phones once per 3-4 years...
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For that price NO! Performance with LP is good, camera not so good even with LP. Didnt have issues with overheating, connectivity is good. Screen and colors looks pretty nice for me.
MultiPDev said:
Thank you so much for your elaborated answer You really made me think about it.
FIRST- it costs me about $160(in a very good condition) and I really can't pay any more than this for a smartphone. It's actually a pretty good deal for what it normally costs in my country. If you/somebody could recommend me a better phone for this price point(taking into consideration the development community)...
SECOND- good to know.
THIRD- well I have to say it sounds dissapointing. Underclocking...doesn't sound that good to me... although I'd have no problem using greenify. 12 hours with 4g on? What's the usage?(heavy...moderate...)
FOURTH- this is the first thing I look when looking for an android device. If it doesn't allow custom ROMs and doesn't have a decent community behind then I don't buy it.
FIFTH- the "gettin really hot" thing sounds also really dissapointin. I'm not a heavy gamer but I do like to play graphic-intensive games from time to time. So is it really that annoing? About the waterproofness... really not important to me.
SIX- pretty annoing huh? Especially the headphones thing. What if you cut them out? You think there'd be any inconvenience on doing this aside from loosing the waterproof thing(and design of course)?
Well... so yeah some bad news for me here. But I can't find a decent phone wich also has community behind for this price. And another which makes me go for it are the 2GB of RAM.
So I wait for some other answers too guys
Also read my first post's EDIT.
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Well,
ONE - if you want a phone with good Dev community support and with that budget you'll have to take a look at ex-flagship devices, like HTC One M7 (this one remains IMHO one of the best devices ever), LG G2(very good camera from what I've been told, and powerful cpu), Samsung Galaxy S4(well because it is a Samsung and everybody has one so many developers...)
THREE - Underclock means you lower the frequency of the Cpu (example. it goes from 1.5 Ghz quad-core to 1.1 Ghz quad-core), I like more uncerclock than greenify, and underclocking at 1.1 Ghz in my opinion gives the best performance/battery life/heat ratio. Usage is normal, 1 hour browsing; 1 hour listening to songs (in 3g, even when 4g is available I disable it); 1 hour 9gag and gets at evening with 30-35%...
FOUR - many custom roms for now, and quality is really good, im using currently the 5.1.1 modified and runs pretty good.
FIVE- when you underclock (which I recommend!) you give your device better battery life but also it heats less. If you don't mind the waterproofness then it's better because I wouldn't call Waterproof a really thin bezel of adhesive (They're crazy !!!)
SIX- yeah, they're annoying but anyway you can live with that, and design is really good and would be a shame if you removed them.
So my list woud be;
1.Htc One m7
2.Lg g2
3.Samsung S4 or Xperia Z
(and btw where do you live? maybe i can see smth for you)
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For that price NO! Performance with LP is good, camera not so good even with LP. Didnt have issues with overheating, connectivity is good. Screen and colors looks pretty nice for me.
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Well it seems the camera is not that good as I thought. Do you think moto g 2/3 has better camera? Although they only have 1GB or RAM.
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Well it seems the camera is not that good as I thought. Do you think moto g 2/3 has better camera? Although they only have 1GB or RAM.
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As an XZ owner i would definitely recommend you to go with Moto G2/3. Beside better camera there will be MM support for both the 2gen and 3gen Moto, while not for XZ.
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Well,
ONE - if you want a phone with good Dev community support and with that budget you'll have to take a look at ex-flagship devices, like HTC One M7 (this one remains IMHO one of the best devices ever), LG G2(very good camera from what I've been told, and powerful cpu), Samsung Galaxy S4(well because it is a Samsung and everybody has one so many developers...)
THREE - Underclock means you lower the frequency of the Cpu (example. it goes from 1.5 Ghz quad-core to 1.1 Ghz quad-core), I like more uncerclock than greenify, and underclocking at 1.1 Ghz in my opinion gives the best performance/battery life/heat ratio. Usage is normal, 1 hour browsing; 1 hour listening to songs (in 3g, even when 4g is available I disable it); 1 hour 9gag and gets at evening with 30-35%...
FOUR - many custom roms for now, and quality is really good, im using currently the 5.1.1 modified and runs pretty good.
FIVE- when you underclock (which I recommend!) you give your device better battery life but also it heats less. If you don't mind the waterproofness then it's better because I wouldn't call Waterproof a really thin bezel of adhesive (They're crazy !!!)
SIX- yeah, they're annoying but anyway you can live with that, and design is really good and would be a shame if you removed them.
So my list woud be;
1.Htc One m7
2.Lg g2
3.Samsung S4 or Xperia Z
(and btw where do you live? maybe i can see smth for you)
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It seems the decision is getting harder and harder, although I already bought it because I don't wanna loose the deal. It's not available anymore at this price after buying it. I'm waiting for it to arrive in about two days I'll test it and if it doesn't satisfy me I'll return it.
ONE - Those devices are about $50 more expensive.
THREE - Maybe underclock could do the job, but will it still run smooth at lets say 1.2ghz? Anyway I think for the usage you described the battery doesn't sound that bad.
FOUR - Yeah, I'm looking at the hacking section and I'm stunned
FIVE - well, I'll happily underclock it if it doesn't affect performance too much. Maybe setting to the normal clock when gaming. And for the waterproofness thing... I'm shocked Anyway... I don't mind.
SIX - I guess...
From those devices you mentioned the only one I can afford is the Xperia Z. I really can't pay more than that for a device.
So, do you think I should buy a low end device from this or last year like the moto g 2014? I'm scared of the 1GB of RAM.
I live in Spain and price is a bit high here in Europe. I can buy from Amazon.es/fr/de/it... but I think I only have two options: buy a low-end device with no support from community or an exflagship device with support like the Xperia Z. I also think having 2GB of RAM is important right? I can't spend more than 150€/$160... ad I guess I'm asking too much from a device for this price. I really appreciate your help.
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As an XZ owner i would definitely recommend you to go with Moto G2/3. Beside better camera there will be MM support for both the 2gen and 3gen Moto, while not for XZ.
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Isn't 1GB of RAM too low nowadays?
Akinaro said:
Buying today XZ is stupid... seriously.
When I bought my XZ price of Z1compact was almost the same and it still is, its 20$-30$ difference for most of time(New XZ cost about 180$ z1c 200$)
And for that price you can buy WAY better phones, starting from Galaxy S4 to LG G series. And you want to stick to Sony you can get even z1 or used z2
As far as I love this phone I would not recommend it to anyone, battery is below average, camera is worst than my old Arc S, and those cover flaps are pain in the A##
This is best example of phone that look good, but those small bugs in everyday usage make it annoying to use...
And yes I still use it :] Because after using new phones... I found out that most of them are the same: average battery, and looots of small bugs that make them annoying after some time. So I decide to change phones once per 3-4 years...
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Unfortunately I can't afford those devices. I barely can afford the Xperia Z because I found a good deal.
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Isn't 1GB of RAM too low nowadays?
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It all depends of usage but i wouldn't worry about it so much. Motorola comes with almost pure Android.
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It all depends of usage but i wouldn't worry about it so much. Motorola comes with almost pure Android.
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Thanks, I'm considering the moto g 2.
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Thanks, I'm considering the moto g 2.
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Moto G (2nd generation) doesn't stand a chance to Xperia Z!
XZ has better specs, better screen, better CPU, more Ram, more internal memory ecc.
Yes, the Moto G (2nd generation) is being updated to Marshmallow but really with all the support from the Dev's we can still get unofficial AOSP Marshmallow Roms.
PS.: one more thing, I currently live in Italy and in big cities it is really easy to find used phones from people that sell them at a local website. I've been checking the prices for some time because I wanted to get a better phone and phones like the LG G3 go as low as 200 euro. Htc One M7 can be found for 150 euro in really good condition, one thing is that you don't have warranty, only if they give you the bill of the phone, then it is as you had bought it(be careful though not giving you a printed bill from the internet.) if you can live with that, that would get you a really good phone with low money.
aaronkatrini said:
Moto G (2nd generation) doesn't stand a chance to Xperia Z!
XZ has better specs, better screen, better CPU, more Ram, more internal memory ecc.
Yes, the Moto G (2nd generation) is being updated to Marshmallow but really with all the support from the Dev's we can still get unofficial AOSP Marshmallow Roms.
PS.: one more thing, I currently live in Italy and in big cities it is really easy to find used phones from people that sell them at a local website. I've been checking the prices for some time because I wanted to get a better phone and phones like the LG G3 go as low as 200 euro. Htc One M7 can be found for 150 euro in really good condition, one thing is that you don't have warranty, only if they give you the bill of the phone, then it is as you had bought it(be careful though not giving you a printed bill from the internet.) if you can live with that, that would get you a really good phone with low money.
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Yeah, XZ specs are really impressive for me, but the problems mentioned worry me. The screen seems a bit poor to me from what I read. Maybe the Moto G has a better screen and battery(camera also? I doubt it). Anyway... the XZ is on its way and I can't wait to test it!!!
The biggest problem I have with buying a used phone from people is, aside from the warranty- which is also important, the fact that I can't return it if it doesn't satisfy me. Thank God for Amazon!! lol :victory:
Hey what about speakers sound?
Yeah amazon has its benefits.
Sound speakers? Hah! That tiny little thing that barely makes a sound? ?
aaronkatrini said:
Yeah amazon has its benefits.
Sound speakers? Hah! That tiny little thing that barely makes a sound? ��
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Disappointing. It seems the device has lots of flaws.
MultiPDev said:
Unfortunately I can't afford those devices. I barely can afford the Xperia Z because I found a good deal.
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In that case welcome to the club
icrunchbanger said:
In that case welcome to the club
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Thanks buddy I hope I stay here for long
aaronkatrini said:
What can I say...
FIRST- if you're buying it for $100 or less maybe it is till a good deal, otherwise maybe it is better to see at other low-to-mid-range
SECOND- yes, the performance is good, even better with lollipop, screen looks better now (maybe sonybravia got better, maybe because lollipop has more white in it and the white is being displayed better), but anyway you have to UNDERCLOCK it in order to get a decent battery life
THIRD- battery life is very disappointing, you HAVE to underclock it and root it and greenify it to get any good battery life, unless you can charge it every 12 hours
FOURTH - the device is getting older and so the interest in this device (im talking about support from devs)
FIFTH - the phone gets hot, like really really hot when you're using it playing games (unless you underclock it), and since the back cover is only a adhesive line, when it gets hotter with the help off the Nfc antenna (which is set to push against the backcover) the backcover gets up and looses its waterproofness
SIX- the flaps - the damn flaps- they're everywhere - and you need to open them every-time you charge the phone, put on the headphones, remove the sim, remove the microSD, and they tend to get loose with time especially the one of the charger since you need to charge it frequently
NOW... that I told you about it downsides, its not a bad phone nowdays, it has a big and very beautiful display, connectivity is like the best i've ever tried, performance is pretty good (cpu + gpu ), camera performs really well - especially in macro, dev support for now is good.
Overall for someone who has it I think it can take another one or two years, but I personally would not buy it unless I find it for cheap or cannot buy a used phone. Personally I would look into a HTC M8 or a LG G3, maybe even used.
You decide
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in my country a NEW xperia z costs around 280-300 euro, i think people still prefer it