Looking at two possible GVR cooling solutions for less than $5:
TEST RESULTS:
Metal Sponges - FAIL:
At first I thought the copper sponges were causing interference and stutter but I then realized I was using the wrong governor in Synapse. Once I fixed that the lag disappeared.
Unfortunately, although the copper became warm, it was not wicking off enough heat to prevent shutdown. I am thinking this is because there is not enough surface area of the copper in contact with the battery as you would have in an actual heatsync with 100% contact.
So, metallic sponges are a fail due to not enough surface contact. Interesting idea, doesn't work.
Chilled Hobby Ziplock Bags Full of Fake Ice Goo - SUCCESS!:
Ok, bought 4" x 3" plastic ziplock bags from the hobby section of Walmart. Also bought bag of Coleman Ice Goo. Filled baggy about 1/2 full (don't want it too thick) and triple bagged it alternating direction of the seal to protect against leaks. Chilled baggy until cold but not frozen (didn't want to fog lenses if too cold). Played various 3D games for about 1/2 an hour before I had to quit to do some other things. After 1/2 hour no heat warnings and battery was cool to the touch - so I'm assuming it was working.
The baggie was however only cool and no longer cold. I do not know if it would still cool the battery enough in that state but might due to the fact this is good and not just water. Will need a longer test for that. Regardless, easy enough to create multiple baggies for quick replacement without quitting your game.
So anyway, there it is, $5 cooling solution from your local Walmart. Hope it works for you.
** I do not claim using chillpacks to be an original idea, just a really cheap implementation of an idea lots of folks have discussed.
*** I placed this directly on the battery but if that makes you nervous I should think it would still work placed on the back cover - as a matter of fact it might stay cold longer that way and will be easier to switch out on the fly without your battery falling out. Make sure you don't overfill the baggie because with the cover on you will have a lot less room.
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I just read this online:
From a chemical standpoint, aluminum is a better thermal and electrical conductor than steel.
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I'll see if I can buy some at Lowe's.
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This may be a crazy idea but I'll put it out there. What if you were to take some loosely woven aluminum wool and stuff it between your Note 4 with the back cover off and the GVR cover? Would this provide enough of a heat sync to prevent overheating while gaming?
Super cheap and easy if it works. I'll try it and report back.
** I know nothing about electronics. Is this will short out my phone or something else terrible, please give me a heads up before I break things.
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I don't think you're gonna want to do that, because that aluminum wool can shed little "flecks" of aluminum just by squeezing/pulling it- just from the friction action within the wool. These little microscopic flecks can get into everywhere and everything. If they get inside electronics, they can create electrical bridges (shorts), and truly mess up your electronics. I'm not saying absolutely don't do it, I'm just sharing that it's something to be aware of. I don't like that stuff.
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I don't think you're gonna want to do that, because that aluminum wool can shed little "flecks" of aluminum just by squeezing/pulling it- just from the friction action within the wool. These little microscopic flecks can get into everywhere and everything. If they get inside electronics, they can create electrical bridges (shorts), and truly mess up your electronics. I'm not saying absolutely don't do it, I'm just sharing that it's something to be aware of. I don't like that stuff.
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Thanks yes I also considered that. What I ended up getting was two small copper sponges from Walmart. I don't think these will shed as they are woven not wool.
I also picked up some of that ice substitute stuff and some 4 x 3 hobby zip lock bags. My idea is to chill the baggy full of goop then place it inside a cloth sunglass pouch and that between the N4 back cover and the GVR cover. Will report back.
Just a followup. I do recommend you go with a chilled pack as opposed to frozen for a couple reasons:
1) Frozen may not fit well as the liquid expands when it freezes.
2) Frozen will cause fogging.
3) I believe a nicely fridge chilled pack will last you about 30 to 40 minutes of gaming at which point you can swap in a new one without stopping.
Yes this is a bit of a cludgy inelegant solution but it is simple, cheap and it works without modding anything permanently.
Did you experience any problems with condensation when you used the ice pack?
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Did you experience any problems with condensation when you used the ice pack?
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If the pack was frozen, yes. If only chilled well then no. YMMV.
mitchellvii said:
Looking at two possible GVR cooling solutions for less than $5:
TEST RESULTS:
Metal Sponges - FAIL:
At first I thought the copper sponges were causing interference and stutter but I then realized I was using the wrong governor in Synapse. Once I fixed that the lag disappeared.
Unfortunately, although the copper became warm, it was not wicking off enough heat to prevent shutdown. I am thinking this is because there is not enough surface area of the copper in contact with the battery as you would have in an actual heatsync with 100% contact.
So, metallic sponges are a fail due to not enough surface contact. Interesting idea, doesn't work.
Chilled Hobby Ziplock Bags Full of Fake Ice Goo - SUCCESS!:
Ok, bought 4" x 3" plastic ziplock bags from the hobby section of Walmart. Also bought bag of Coleman Ice Goo. Filled baggy about 1/2 full (don't want it too thick) and triple bagged it alternating direction of the seal to protect against leaks. Chilled baggy until cold but not frozen (didn't want to fog lenses if too cold). Played various 3D games for about 1/2 an hour before I had to quit to do some other things. After 1/2 hour no heat warnings and battery was cool to the touch - so I'm assuming it was working.
The baggie was however only cool and no longer cold. I do not know if it would still cool the battery enough in that state but might due to the fact this is good and not just water. Will need a longer test for that. Regardless, easy enough to create multiple baggies for quick replacement without quitting your game.
So anyway, there it is, $5 cooling solution from your local Walmart. Hope it works for you.
** I do not claim using chillpacks to be an original idea, just a really cheap implementation of an idea lots of folks have discussed.
*** I placed this directly on the battery but if that makes you nervous I should think it would still work placed on the back cover - as a matter of fact it might stay cold longer that way and will be easier to switch out on the fly without your battery falling out. Make sure you don't overfill the baggie because with the cover on you will have a lot less room.
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What governor do you use? I've noticed on Lollipop that there is stuttering using the interactive governor.
I have had no problems just yet. But also I have not used it for more than half hour.
Wow, interesting read.
I just got a Gear VR Innovator edition for Note 4. It overheats like crazy!
I was thinking of a way but I am glad I found this because at least I can use the freezy things while I work on what I had planned for cooling.
My plan... Ummm, is to make the battery remote. The note 4 fits in the gear vr without the back cover installed, so I am wanting to make some sort of remote battery tray, just to get all that heat AWAY from the phone.
If anyone has any cheap ideas on what to use to make a battery tray, and also the dummy battery that I would need to put in the phone, please chime in?
I was thinking I could do it all with cardboard(ugly style) or dremel out the parts from flat plastic. 3D printer would be nice... lol
Edit) This would be ideal. All I would have to do is pry it apart and solder 3 leads onto the board where the pins connect, then use the spare battery, with the leads blocked, or gutted, or some sort of homemade insert for the connection to the phone.
In my case, 25 bucks would be worth it. Both my kids, and I have Note 4's, so about 8 bucks per phone.. not bad. OOPS. I chose that link because I thought it would last a while, but I found many of these for 20-30 bucks elsewhere.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Battery-Charger-Replacement/dp/B00NQG2XNC
Found a knockoff here,, 10 bucks.. I am ordering this one for sure.
http://www.amazon.com/LEMFO®-Galaxy...id=1456774018&sr=1-18&keywords=note+4+charger
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I use to see your post all the time on the Tab S forums. Do you still have it? Anyway I think it's crazy to have to go through so much to use a GVR without it overheating. I'm using mine with a S6. 5 to 10 minutes after using it, videos, games, pictures, doesn't matter, I get the need to cool down message. I tried all of the phone settings suggestions I could find to resolve the overheating and nothing works. I pre-ordered a S7 and should have it around next Friday. Hopefully I'll have better luck with the S7. If not I may try your solution or just sell it and wait for a reasonably priced PC VR to come out.
In my opinion the best of the cooling fan.
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Now that I've successfully waterproofed the nook, the only thing preventing it from being THE best device to start your day with is the lack of a good, solid shower mount.
It's amazing how well the ziplock bag works - totally waterproof, and doesn't affect the screen or typing at all. In fact, it might be better than the bare glass.
But how can I successfully mount it to my tile shower wall? I don't trust tape...and of course, it must be able to be removed once a week to charge.
Ideas? Think of the possibilities! Watching the morning newscast, NPR in the shower, using it as a remote to control your audio system, etc, etc.
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Why not consider one of the car windshield mounts? I'm assuming that the texture of your shower walls will be compatible with a suction cup.
One question though: I didn't really scrutinize your photos. It looks like you're using something like a ziplock bag. Can you control your nook thru the waterproofing?
/not interested in doing this myself, but I am curious about controlling thru the plastic..
Jgrimoldy said:
Why not consider one of the car windshield mounts? I'm assuming that the texture of your shower walls will be compatible with a suction cup.
One question though: I didn't really scrutinize your photos. It looks like you're using something like a ziplock bag. Can you control your nook thru the waterproofing?
/not interested in doing this myself, but I am curious about controlling thru the plastic..
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I'm going to try suction cups as well as 3M velcro.
The plastic doesn't interfere one bit. It works perfectly. Though I did just find a company called Drycase - I might pick up one of these and use it with my EEE Transformer. Would be really nice with the bigger screen and better bluetooth range to stream the audio to the bathroom speakers. Either way, it's a hell of a lot cheaper than having a screen professionally flushed into your shower.
Actually, plain Ziploc bags work fine. I use one of the gallon double-seal freezer bags (heavier plastic) when I'm reading in the bathtub. I've even dropped it in a few times.. I don't even worry about it at this point when I do, unless it smacks the side of the tub.
Just make sure you fill it with water to leak-test that it was fully bonded all the way around at the factory. No water can get out? No water can get in later, once you've dumped it out and left it open to dry for a while.
Then just insert NC, zip the bag mostly closed, and suck out as much air as possible before closing it fully. Condensation works with the ambient moisture in the present air, and a temperature differential. Water doesn't teleport through the plastic. Less air means less chance for the present moisture in the trapped air to condense.
The touchscreen works fine through the plastic. Want to try it for yourself? Just lay a plastic sandwich baggie on the screen. Works fine, same way a screen protector does.
The professional versions (aquapac, pelican, otterbox) are generally just the same stuff with a wider bonding margin to make SURE it's sealed all the way around, maybe thicker plastic for durability, and a to-fit size. I'll take the twenty-cent version that I have to fold over itself, thank you.
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Have you tried leaving the top flap-bit not folded over, and piercing a couple of plastic grommets through the (non-sealed) flap bits? Could just use suction-cup hooks after that, though I'd be concerned at that point with the possibility of standing water sitting on the seal, which would then be made to hold the weight of the NC too. Could go for a windshield suction cup mount, but I've had bad luck with those holding on... and few are meant for all-weather applications to begin with.
Best option in my mind would be to figure a way to melt a strip together along the side or bottom, pierce the (now-solid) piece with a couple of grommets, and just use some nylon cord to hang it over your shower pipe. After leak-testing again of course.
Nothing really useful to contribute that hasn't been said already, but the wallpaper in the OP is really funny given the thread's subject.
I am interested in this, carry on
Have you thought of shower hooks? 3 total, 2 on sides, 1 bottom, slide it in from the top
computerpro3 said:
do you really think I would be doing this if I could not afford to buy another? These nooks are dirt cheap and I've been looking for a good shower solution for a while. I figure I might as well try this before dropping ten grand on a professional solution.
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Er... solution to what? My sense is that a Nook Color shower mount is a solution in search of a problem.
Now, a waterproof Nook Color would be cool, OTOH for reading while a in a hot tub.
Beyond an Pad winshield mount I don't have a good idea for you (though I would prefer something with 2 suction cups, not a single one) I have to admit that once I got past the WTF? momment I realized that using a large, heavy duty freezer bag (or two) would let me use the nook, or any other eReader, much more comfortably while soaking my damaged knees in the spa.
I hadn't been doing that for fear of an accidental drop, and the waterproof plastic case I have that will hold the nook is too heavy to use the screen controls.
If you can't see the use for this, you're just not very intelligent. New luxury homes are already having multitouch displays integrated into the shower for various home control functions. In ten years, they will be ubiquitous and nearly iron-man style (remember Jarvis?).
There are tons of practical uses - for example, using it with tinycam as a young child monitor. Or for your wife to monitor the security cams so she feels safe while you're travelling. Or to listen to the morning news while showering. It's really quite simple - while you're scrubbing your nutsack in silence in some dilapidated cramped cubicle, I'll be watching the morning news in HD via slingbox while being massaged and cleaned by multiple shower heads, all while being soothed by auto-controlled mood lighting.
Because I could think of about 1000 ways to mount it. Mounting it should be the least of his worries. One way would be the right way and it sounds like he would be cool with the other 999 ways considering he seems content with his ziplock bag waterproof method.
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I would start off buying a 2 inch usb doggle. Then find a packaging place in your area that will vacum wrap it with the doggle attached. (Mailboxes etc., ups, fedex,) use about .030 guage plastic or whatever works with the touchscreen. Find a rubber tight fitting cap for the exposed end of the 2 inch usb. Buy a nook color case that can be siliconed to your shower wall and snap it in. Lol. I'm trying to be some what constructive here. Goodluck
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I would start off buying a 2 inch usb doggle. Then find a packaging place in your area that will vacum wrap it with the doggle attached. (Mailboxes etc., ups, fedex,) use about .030 guage plastic or whatever works with the touchscreen. Find a rubber tight fitting cap for the exposed end of the 2 inch usb. Buy a nook color case that can be siliconed to your shower wall and snap it in. Lol. I'm trying to be some what constructive here. Goodluck
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Just found these
http://www.usbfirewire.com/usb-rugged-waterproof-plastic.html
Very interesting stuff, thanks.
You know, if you're going to mount a tablet into a shower...
... at least get one with a front-facing camera!
If you figure this out, let me know. I want to get a waterproof mount so I can use my NC in the toilet. Maybe mount it in the urinal at work or something.
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I would start off buying a 2 inch usb doggle. Then find a packaging place in your area that will vacum wrap it with the doggle attached. snip
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What's a "doggle"?
Just so it's clear... you apparently want us to believe you have fancy tastes in expensive cars and have enough of an income where gas mileage is of no concern, yet you wrap a cheap hacked e-reader up in a ziplock bag?
Seems like using duct tape as a mounting solution would keep with the motif of using a taped-up zip lock bag as a waterproofing solution. You could even color in a Maserati emblem on the duct tape to make it more water friendly and more baller.
I look forward to the results of your experimentation of trying to charge the nook in the shower.
im not so interested in the use of the nook in a shower, but i do like the idea of using a plastic bag to protect your nook from kids with dirty sticky fingers.
I will admit it. I put my NC in a heavy duty gallon freezer bag so I can read in the bath tub. However, a shower mount goes beyond me.
geekyradical said:
I will admit it. I put my NC in a heavy duty gallon freezer bag so I can read in the bath tub. However, a shower mount goes beyond me.
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Hard to fault ya there. That's just plain being sensible!
I'm not quite sure that I understand the need for the nook in the shower, but then I take showers that are usually 5 minutes or less. A shower is really a "get down to business" sort of thing.
A bath, OTOH: That's relaxation time; often involving a glass of wine, and usually lasting at least 15 minutes. I wouldn't think of trying to involve a laptop, but my nook in a ziplock? Hmmmm... yeah, prolly... why not?
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Hard to fault ya there. That's just plain being sensible!
I'm not quite sure that I understand the need for the nook in the shower, but then I take showers that are usually 5 minutes or less. A shower is really a "get down to business" sort of thing.
A bath, OTOH: That's relaxation time; often involving a glass of wine, and usually lasting at least 15 minutes. I wouldn't think of trying to involve a laptop, but my nook in a ziplock? Hmmmm... yeah, prolly... why not?
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I will freely admit I stole the idea from my SIL, who does the same thing with her iPhone so she can read. It really does work just fine through the ziplock plastic. The best way to do it is to put it so that the non-holey bottom corner in the corner of the ziplock, lay it on a flat surface, and then squeeze out as much air as possible. Then seal, and roll the bag up using the zipper part as the core. You can either tape it or hold it and it works like a charm.
Ok, since there is no general thread dedicated to Xperia T cases, I decided to start one.
Not to open new thread for every new case some of us get at that moment, let this be collection of all cases/pouches/bumpers, or whatever your phone protection is called.
I will start this thread with my first case for Xperia T, I recieved just this morning.
It's the Nillkin Xperia T case, ordered from eBay, and I must say it looks amazing on phone.
This is probably the best case I ever had on any phone (and I had like 10 cases form my Xperia Arc S).
It is very precisely shaped, and material finish is very good, not like some cheap plastic.
Here are 2 pictures I took just few minutes ago:
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Nice, looks almost like being a part of the device.
My greetings to Sarajevo :good:
@mr_torture nice case mate. All buttons are working fine of it's difficult pressing them? Usb? I had a case on my xperia u and was a pain in the *** . Thanks in advance
DaRk-L0rD said:
@mr_torture nice case mate. All buttons are working fine of it's difficult pressing them? Usb? I had a case on my xperia u and was a pain in the *** . Thanks in advance
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Yeah, buttons are very comfort for pressing, and also, usb plug is perfectly comfort for usb cable, with no interruption at all when being connected. After few days of usage, I can say with no doubt that this is the best looking/best built case I ever had.
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Yeah, buttons are very comfort for pressing, and also, usb plug is perfectly comfort for usb cable, with no interruption at all when being connected. After few days of usage, I can say with no doubt that this is the best looking/best built case I ever had.
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Nice to hear that mate
I think i am going to buy this case too. The only doubt i had with the buttons. Xperia U's cover was in plastic and after a couple of days wasn't covering the right side of the phone. Was totally deformed!
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Yeah, buttons are very comfort for pressing, and also, usb plug is perfectly comfort for usb cable, with no interruption at all when being connected. After few days of usage, I can say with no doubt that this is the best looking/best built case I ever had.
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I have been using this cover since beginning of having phone and had to stop. Cover scratched shiny frame next to touch panel. I will do some photos.
So what when I have clear back when my TP frame is scratched?
Scratched appeared next to buttons - there where the cover is very thin and easy to deformate. Never used the phone in difficult conditions or bad weather.
Also cover is causing small preasure in corners of back body. So expect in short time the same effect as not using cover. Rubbered corners will be damaged or scratched too.
Whole cover is not too hard and works while using the XPERIA or got phone in pocket.
If anyone wanna buy, got for sale NIKKILIN cover but black
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I have been using this cover since beginning of having phone and had to stop. Cover scratched shiny frame next to touch panel. I will do some photos.
So what when I have clear back when my TP frame is scratched?
Scratched appeared next to buttons - there where the cover is very thin and easy to deformate. Never used the phone in difficult conditions or bad weather.
Also cover is causing small preasure in corners of back body. So expect in short time the same effect as not using cover. Rubbered corners will be damaged or scratched too.
Whole cover is not too hard and works while using the XPERIA or got phone in pocket.
If anyone wanna buy, got for sale NIKKILIN cover but black
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Some photos would be really nice, because I'm not sure what "shiny" part you are reffering to, and also I'm not sure how could any non-moving part, as this case is, scratch something.
I don't know, I switched like 5 different hard cases on my last phone, Xperia Arc S, and I never had any scratch or damage on my phone, and you know that Xperia Arc is having very sensitive chrome edge around phone.
I'm not having any reason not to believe you but I would really like to see some photos, to see what kind of damages you are talking about.
Thanks in advance.
Update: Forgot to say that this case concretely is the best built hard case I ever had, and not just that, but probably the best hard case I ever saw in any of my friends phones. And generally Nillkin cases are regarded as good quality ones, so that makes me wonder how could it make such a bad damages to phone.
Some photos of damage. It is small scratches... but occurred in 2 months of using the phone with nikillin case.... I want to underline that phone have been used with maximum care and never used in dust or dirty. Also in pocket never other things or much pressure.
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Now, are you talking about those white lines, or those little spots all around...
These white lines are just light reflections I guess, so I suppose you're talking about these spots.
Anyway, thanks for your feedback.
I guess that pressure while carrying phone in pocket is also having its part in this, because it still seems unnatural to me that case alone could make such a damage, but I might be wrong.
Also, not related to your post, I'm planning to order leather pouch also, from eBay, to take the phone out of this hard case from time to time.
I discovered that there are official leather pouches from brand called Roxfit, and they really seem like a great quality. They are creating pouches / flip cases, for various Xperia models.
This is their webpage:
http://www.roxfit.mobi
http://www.roxfit.mobi/#!xperia-t/c1c0r
And this is the pouch I want to order from eBay (its much cheaper than on official page):
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221231391133?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649
Its originally for Xperia SP, but since dimensions are almost identical, the T will fit perfectly in this one.
just a tip, if you working a handwork, or you are many time outside. dont use such thing.
i saw it at my brothers last Sony.
hes working with cars (no office job), and with the time little dust or whatever go near the case, everytime he pulled it out and in, he got miniscratches. you will notice that later...
at the end it was full of scratches. looked horrible^^
it was an ArcS (shiny backside)
i mean these leather bags look nice, but if you not take care dust or sand or whatever, you will regret it later.
and thats the point, why buy a leatherbag for protection, when you have to take care the using. then you also can use it without that bag.
maybe its different, because the T hasnt shiny backside, but in my opinion this type hasnt the best well-wrought conecpt.
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Now, are you talking about those white lines, or those little spots all around...
These white lines are just light reflections I guess, so I suppose you're talking about these spots.
Anyway, thanks for your feedback.
I guess that pressure while carrying phone in pocket is also having its part in this, because it still seems unnatural to me that case alone could make such a damage, but I might be wrong.
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Yes, I meant white spots and scratches, not reflections. It is very very difficult to do a good photo of them.
My trousers are loose, so there was no pressure... Also in the pocket of the jacket was no preasure.
I noticed longer cooling down of the phone after gaming longer time or wheather is warm... It is not good for CPU/GPU.
Well, the way I see it, protective cases (all kind of, from hard cases, to flip, to leather puches), are only useful for some "accidental" events.
Like accidental drops, kicks, scratches, or so...
If you're a kind of "rough" user, not carrying too much about about your phone, then it will get weary and damaged eventually, with or without protective case.
Case in point, my last phone was Xperia Arc S, a very shiny piece of hardware (therefore very sensitive to all kind of scratches), and I used various hard cases and leather pouches on it. In a year and half of usage, till the moment I sold it, it never get any scratch on its body, not a single one, believe me. Beside that famous crack above sensor, housing itself was in state that it was the first day I bought it.
To conclude, if you're careful enough, you can keep your phone in mint state, and various cases are only a helpful tool for keeping phone protected from accidents, not from yourself. If you're not careful, your phone will be damaged by time, no matter what case you keep on it.
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Well, the way I see it, protective cases (all kind of, from hard cases, to flip, to leather puches), are only useful for some "accidental" events.
Like accidental drops, kicks, scratches, or so...
If you're a kind of "rough" user, not carrying too much about about your phone, then it will get weary and damaged eventually, with or without protective case.
Case in point, my last phone was Xperia Arc S, a very shiny piece of hardware (therefore very sensitive to all kind of scratches), and I used various hard cases and leather pouches on it. In a year and half of usage, till the moment I sold it, it never get any scratch on its body, not a single one, believe me. Beside that famous crack above sensor, housing itself was in state that it was the first day I bought it.
To conclude, if you're careful enough, you can keep your phone in mint state, and various cases are only a helpful tool for keeping phone protected from accidents, not from yourself. If you're not careful, your phone will be damaged by time, no matter what case you keep on it.
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Just observe yours XPERIA and buttons area If you see some scratches in 2 months, please give feedback.
I can agree that case is very good built.
Hmmm, even nikillin case will not help if you drop phone
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Just observe yours XPERIA and buttons area If you see some scratches in 2 months, please give feedback.
I can agree that case is very good built.
Hmmm, even nikillin case will not help if you drop phone
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I was replying to previous poster, who said that it's not "safe" to carry your phone in leather pouches.
And based on your experience, I guess I will not keep the phone in this case for next 2 months constantly.
I don't know, maybe some tpu/silicon case is better option then, but I'm just sick of those S-Line tpu cases, as everyone is carrying them around...
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I was replying to previous poster, who said that it's not "safe" to carry your phone in leather pouches.
And based on your experience, I guess I will not keep the phone in this case for next 2 months constantly.
I don't know, maybe some tpu/silicon case is better option then, but I'm just sick of those S-Line tpu cases, as everyone is carrying them around...
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I'm not quite sure about humidity and silicone case put on the phone. In warmer day you always get some humidity in pocket from your body. The same in winter - from cold to warm - water is liquefing. Dunno how sealed silicone case affect on that.
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I was replying to previous poster, who said that it's not "safe" to carry your phone in leather pouches.
And based on your experience, I guess I will not keep the phone in this case for next 2 months constantly.
I don't know, maybe some tpu/silicon case is better option then, but I'm just sick of those S-Line tpu cases, as everyone is carrying them around...
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I have tried the S line case and it seemed bit flimsy on the sides and was constantly snapping around when using the screen which could damaged the sides as in those pics posted.
I got another TPU GEL/Rubber case afterwards (link below), and has been in use for nearly an year now. Just noticed a tiny bit of the coating peeling off near headphone jack on top, but no other damages.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TPU-GEL-RUBBER-CASE-FOR-SONY-XPERIA-T-CLEAR-BLACK-/290949747829?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhonesCasesPouches&hash=item43bdf4d475
Wow, I just discovered this:
http://www.incipio.com/cases/smartp...t-tl-cases/sony-xperia-t-tl-dualpro-case.html
It seems like a rock solid quality. What you get are two different layers. One made of silicon that goes directly on phone, and another made out of some hard material, that goes over the silicon one.
The price is 30 dollars on official page, and I found it on eBay too, for the same price (with shipping included):
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-OEM-I...t=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&hash=item25820428cc
I have this same case, only in black, the phone is also black, and I think a great cover is thin, does not break too the great design of this phone, and is resistant to shock like no other, perhaps more expensive than other alternatives, but if someone wants a good case, without hesitation buying this.
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I have this same case, only in black, the phone is also black, and I think a great cover is thin, does not break too the great design of this phone, and is resistant to shock like no other, perhaps more expensive than other alternatives, but if someone wants a good case, without hesitation buying this.
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Well, thanks alot for your feedback. I'm torturing myself since I discovered this, should I go for it, or not...
So it is great, as I thought it is. Can you just tell me how good it's fitting the phone. Because this is the first time I'm seeing the case like this, with two different layers. I guess it is fitting phone tightly enough, judging by price.
I have ordered one of these (click to enlarge)
£4.95 + FREE UK delivery
I decided this was the best design as the clip is on the left side and wont get in my way when the phone is in my hand
http://www.amazon.co.uk/iTALKonline...1215&sr=1-4&keywords=italkonline+xperia+lt30p
When it arrives ill let yall know if its any good
(putting cards in there will more than likely cause damage (imprint my account number on the screen lol) and im a little worried about the magnet in the clip. not sure if this is an issue nowadays but I know a magnet sends old pc monitors permanently purple
Alright, I meant to post this about a month ago but I have been very busy.
I present to you the full body custom protection for the gear:
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Now LoL, dont laugh. It is not the best looking protection, but it is damn tuff. This was my first attempt and took some skill and patience to complete. When I originally did this there was a fair bit of "head scratching" going on.
This mod is pretty basic, but requires PATIENCE (very key). It is simply electrical shrink wrap tubing.
OhMGee! YOU USED HEAT ON A $300 HIGH TECH WATCH WITH DELICATE ELECTRONICS???!?!?!?!??!?!? YES, yes I did. That is where the patience part comes in. Take it slow and simple. Do not rush for any reason. The key is to heat up an area, shrink the wrap and let it cool. This way you do not get the watch too hot. Getting the watch warm is not a problem because electroincs get warm under operating conditions. Just dont heat the watches body up to the point that it is uncomfortable to touch. Size up the shrink wrap according to the watch size. A fairly large diameter piece is required for the main body, and the watch band part has to be at least the size of the clasp with the speaker in it. (I believe the watch band required a 1in diameter shrink wrap size which was a tight fit pulling it over the clasp but will fit)
Some other pointers I can give. Take your time and work all the way around the entire wrap. Meaning do not try to completely shrink one area at a time. The idea is to work around the outside shrinking the wrap evenly so it takes the shape of the watch. Also buy more shrink wrap than what you need. Your first attempt may not turn out like you expect.
You will have to trim some places. As will be seen in following pictures below, you will have to cut out a notch for the watch clasp. It will be obvious once you get things in place. Simply trim to fit. You will also have to cut out for the screen, camera, microphones, and speaker. The best way to do this is use a very sharp razor blade to score the surface of the wrap. Dont try to cut through the material in one go or you are going to cut your watch and/or scratch the surface.
Now a trick I used to cut out the camera. I used a fired .22 casing to score the surface of the wrap directly over the camera. Then slowly worked the razor around the mark the .22 made. The idea was to not cut out the entire area for the cameras lens so that over time the edges wont roll up. Just enough to let the camera see out is all I wanted.
Some other tips. This mod will make the watch band STIFF. Thats ok because I want it to be as ridgid and tuff as possible. During the process of shrinking the wrap to the band, you might want to bend the band inwards while the wrap is still warm and let it cool like that. You can always reheat the band later to reform it. This is all self explanatory but I wanted to explain for peeps that havnt used heat shrink before.
One more little note. When I did the watch face, I made a template of the screen size (actual screen) to go by. I would also highly advise that you put a screen protector on before wrapping the main body. Also required is to make little holes for the microphones and power button. No the charger wont fit with the main body wrap in place. I simply made a split right down the middle on the underside. Right now I have a small piece of blue painters tape holding it together. Cant see the tape when wearing the watch so I dont care. When I need to charge it, peel the tape back on one side and pull the wrap off. Same tape works when putting the wrap back on after charging. And yes, the wrap on the watch band is far back enough to allow the chrager to fit.
I do plan on remaking the body wrap part since I messed up the one I have on it now. Again, order more material than you need. Your first attempt will most likely not be that great.
Enjoy the Gear pr0n!!!
I dunno man... Part of the reason for getting the gear was the great looks compared to the other watches out there. I mean you wouldn't put something like this on a traditional watch! Looks are one of the main features
But then again, my day job is on front of a computer, where no harm will come to my watch so maybe I'm the wrong person to reply
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I dunno man... Part of the reason for getting the gear was the great looks compared to the other watches out there. I mean you wouldn't put something like this on a traditional watch! Looks are one of the main features
But then again, my day job is on front of a computer, where no harm will come to my watch so maybe I'm the wrong person to reply
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I agree with you, but when you break your watch looks wont really matter! LoL
My work calls for some pretty rough conditions. I work in commercial kitchens and on rooftops. Im jn the repair industry and my hand are constantly dirty and nasty. The main reason I bought the gear was to not have to handle my phone every 5secs when someone calls me. I also use my camera A LOT so having the camera on the Gear is just plain awesome for getting a pic of equipment and data plates with model/serial numbers.
This thread is for those that need good protection in extreme conditions. I know my Gear would have been destroyed on the first day at work.
Just food for thought
Hah yeah I kinda realised that might be the case once I wrote my first paragraph lol!
It's definitely impressive what you did though!
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BUT WHY !
I personally dont like it.. In saying that tho I dont even put screen protectors on my phones/watch.
I can understand why you did it tho..
Thank you sir! Keep in mind the watch body part is not necessary. When I am not working, I run the watch without the body part.
Just the protection for the clasp and camera is enough of a reason to do this. Not only that, shrink wrap comes in all kinds of colors. Dont like the black band? Change it up and make it yellow! Tired of that color? Cut it off and put something else on. The shrink wrap that I used is really thick. There are other pieces that are thinner.
Oh yeah I almost forgot. There is clear shrink too! If I can find some big enough I will give that a try. That would probably look better.
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fire3element said:
Thank you sir! Keep in mind the watch body part is not necessary. When I am not working, I run the watch without the body part.
Just the protection for the clasp and camera is enough of a reason to do this. Not only that, shrink wrap comes in all kinds of colors. Dont like the black band? Change it up and make it yellow! Tired of that color? Cut it off and put something else on. The shrink wrap that I used is really thick. There are other pieces that are thinner.
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You get points for innovation, but its ugly.. LOL
Good work and well done!!
Maybe for your work is good......but...... I don't like at all. It's very ugly
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Good work and well done!!
Maybe for your work is good......but...... I don't like at all. It's very ugly
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Keep in mind he is a tradesmen, If I was still a tradie myself I would be doing the same !
Its a great idea tho, really is..
aww cmon now. For a bunch of guys yall sure are worried about lookin purtty
I just want the functionality of the watch. No one even looks at my watch or phone... probably cause I am so hot. >.> I kid I KID rofl
Well shoot... I though more people would like it. LoL
Oh well back to the drawing board. Maybe I will repost if I find some clear shrink to redo it.
Honestly though, doesn't look that bad in person. Pics make it look worse.
.oops double post
fire3element said:
aww cmon now. For a bunch of guys yall sure are worried about lookin purtty
I just want the functionality of the watch. No one even looks at my watch or phone... probably cause I am so hot. >.> I kid I KID rofl
Well shoot... I though more people would like it. LoL
Oh well back to the drawing board. Maybe I will repost if I find some clear shrink to redo it.
Honestly though, doesn't look that bad in person. Pics make it look worse.
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Hahahahaha, you did well man.. Considering the materials you used its a clean job.
Dont try justify it with the pictures making it look bad tho bahahaha !
hahahaha. touche'
I use my phone for internet when I am on the go and I just got this laptop specifically for its 6 hour battery life. It otherwise kinda sucks but then again it was $230 bucks and runs windows. But while it doesn't have an optical drive it actually has the bay for one so I modified it to hold the phone. This way I can secure the phone in the laptop rather than my pocket and reduce disconnects from walking too far.
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So the original idea was to cut the blanking plate that laptop comes with but I couldn't find a replacement for warranty purposes. Not only does removing one width divider make it the perfect width, that width happens to be the same as a 2.5 inch hard drive. So the next idea came. They make 2.5" HDD adapters to fit into laptop optical bays:
Now I just need to put a screen protector on the phone. I used a piece of paper to cover the metal inside but dirt dragged across paper is still very bad for the screen. I still need to get a faceplate that matches this chassis to cut (which I believe I have found) to fill the excess left and right. It would be really cool if I was skilled and could throw a USB charger in there to run off the SATA's 5V line.
Here is the real purpose for this dock with one of my other laptops ODD drives as an example:
Once again I don't have a face plate on hand that matches this laptop, Yet.
Edit: Never mind I'm an idiot LOL
It's done really well, nice idea
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what do you mean by "reduce disconnects from walking too far"?
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Far might not be the problem as much as whats between me and it. I use it at work alot and while it defaults to sitting on top of my bag with the phone in it. I like to walk around with it. I don't like leaving the phone loose and walking behind a bunch of steel kinda doesn't seem to work. So instead of in the bag or in my pocket I was thinking securely attached to the computer might work.
Ive had the laptop in the lobby and walked probably 40 feet behind some equipment and came back and everything had been disconnected. It was already reconnected by the time I got to it but for things that are continous transmission/recieve its not a good scenario.
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Far might not be the problem as much as whats between me and it. I use it at work alot and while it defaults to sitting on top of my bag with the phone in it. I like to walk around with it. I don't like leaving the phone loose and walking behind a bunch of steel kinda doesn't seem to work.
Ive had the laptop in the lobby and walked probably 40 feet behind some equipment and came back and everything had been disconnected. It was already reconnected by the time I got to it but for things that are continous transmission/recieve its not a good scenario.
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Yeah I realized, I somehow missed the first few words of your post so it confused me. Good job on it though!
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Nice work OP. I'm a sucker for diy projects like this. I believe if you could get the phone to charge while "docked" in the laptop that would be pretty cool. You could maybe rig up a wireless charging pad in there or something. Keep us posted of any improvements you make.
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This is pretty dang awesome. That hard drive holder is a perfect fit for your Nexus!
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Nice work OP. I'm a sucker for diy projects like this. I believe if you could get the phone to charge while "docked" in the laptop that would be pretty cool. You could maybe rig up a wireless charging pad in there or something. Keep us posted of any improvements you make.
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Thanks. If it were my old laptop wireless charging would probably be possible, except for the fact that the laptop alone sucked too much power to begin with. Its a gaming laptop so its huge and while this one is a 9mm thick bay that one was an extra 3.5mm to play with.
Really I have the OBHD Sata connector from the kit and I could probably find a cheap usb dock to rip apart. But I am not confident in my skills for such a delicate situation of lining it up and making it stay there. Would be charge only though if there is a spare usb header on the board (doubt it) like my other laptop had could do data too.
Looks sweet! Good work!!
This is sick! Mad props
That's so sick! Do you have it connected to USB on the inside?
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why torture the phone like this. THough the idea is original I feel its kind of a torture for the phone. Think of all the heat that it will have to face, heat from using it as modem for your 3G and the computer itself. Man this will reduce the life of your phone in the long run
Look at this as a stepping stone. . . the beginning of a new chapter for next gen devices that allows for even faster data transfers. . . maybe even faster charging due to direct connections from manufacturers. His idea could make it big one day. For example, the Android Reboot feature that took so long to get LoL that I only got using CM back in Tue day
Nice idea, nice work!
That's pretty awesome!
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why torture the phone like this. THough the idea is original I feel its kind of a torture for the phone. Think of all the heat that it will have to face, heat from using it as modem for your 3G and the computer itself. Man this will reduce the life of your phone in the long run
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Well perhaps the real torture would be laying on top of the laptop and letting it drop on the floor all the time. Couple reasons it doesn't concern me is with the laptop off were looking at roughly the same impact to heat dissipation as an otterbox style case. With the laptop doing what its doing the phone runs cooler than it would if it were gaming whilst in a case.
Now laptops have a reputation for being hot I should know I was a laptop gamer for years. However this is powered by what is basically a Tablet cpu. The only real difference between BayTrail-M and BayTrail-T is the Graphics clocks. It underclocks with dynamic voltage scaling aggressively just like a phone reducing heat and power consumption. It runs cooler than anything I have ever layed my hands on and the phone is complete opposite of anything heat generating. It however shares the ambient heat dissipation plate thats in the top of the case that is meant to dissipate heat through the palm rest and keyboard. Now while this could be a good thing I look at it more as theres a way for heat to move from one side towards the phone. But on a hard surface the phones in the coolest portion of the unit.
Also whats 3G j/k.
This is from today with it in the laptop. Tests regular vary for me from 40/20 to 20/20:
Best thing in years! Ultra cool job mate! Just WOW!
Love the idea of it, creative and would be even better if u were able to charge it too
Woow , where from did you the idea, I mean this is so cool, I hope it doesn't damage the phone at all right? If it doesn't then this could do big things one day....
so its just a case now?? whats the purpose/use ?
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so its just a case now?? whats the purpose/use ?
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Did you read the first post? It's literally the first few sentences.
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Have read about someone modding a battery, added a heat sink and trimmed the case to allow the heat sink to protrude out of the back, anyone else modded their setup to dissipate heat better?
Suggestions?
Small electronics fan maybe?
I used a 9cmX4cm heatsink from Amazon and some thermal paste/epoxy, fit perfectly, and it hasn't overheated yet, just gamed for about 45 min, and the heatsink was barely warm.
http://www.amazon.com/20mm-Aluminiu...50MR8CG/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_i/179-5237737-1717433
Have a replacement back and second battery/external charger coming, will trim the back to fit the heatsink and have a back/battery for day to day use of the Note 4, will swap them out for VR use. I can trim the fins a bit and get the transparent cover on it, I think it'll work fine with a bit less surface area with the trimmed fins.
Am still pretty impressed with what Samsung has done, but it's not ready for general consumer use yet till they get the heat management sorted out.
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I'm sure someone will come out with a little clip on "fan " back that runs off a triple A battery.
I put an ice pack between the phone and visor.
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I put an ice pack between the phone and visor.
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Any condensation or fogging issues? If your face is warmer than the lenses you will fog.
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Any condensation or fogging issues? If your face is warmer than the lenses you will fog.
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I was just messing around, however there may be a way that I've been thinking about that might work for everyone!
I used to have a IcePack collar for my dogs neck. It may fit perfectly around the removable plastic visor and they also come in all sizes.
I created a solution that utilizes a 50x50x10 fan with an on/off switch and made a circuit board with 3 USB ports in various locations, which powers the fan and the phone. no more overheating and no more swapping batteries or any of that nonsense. lol
I only use the Gear VR for movies. I have tried games though and they run hot and suck the battery quickly as others report. Hence why I use mine just for movies now. Still a worthy purchase IMO just for movies
Fan.
I needed the most modular setup to attach/detach Note quickly. To keep heat under control, you only need minimal amount of airflow, best directed at warmest spot, right below the camera.
In my experience, even 40x40x10mm will do. I was able to demo Gear VR for 4 people in a room with ambient temperature over 72 deg, with constant videos and 3D.
Anything that involves removing back plate sucks. Your default back plate will wear out the little tabs, start creaking if done often. My wireless charring back is harder to put on (and expensive to monkey around with). I ended up with small piece of black velcro on the back, and the 40mm fan is quick to put on/remove (connecting velcro piece placed on its hub), it doesn't need to be aligned carefully, you don't need to worry about sticking fingers in it etc. I have it rigged to USB, fed by USB port on MOGA controller or a small battery pack.
The only time when I was able to overwhelm that fan was when my buddy played Anshar Wars while we were casting the screen to Chromecast - but this is extreme. 50 mm would probably keep up just fine.
Any other solution to get over this direct problem please?
Can anyone post images of slim moded solution ?
pliablemoose said:
I used a 9cmX4cm heatsink from Amazon and some thermal paste/epoxy, fit perfectly, and it hasn't overheated yet, just gamed for about 45 min, and the heatsink was barely warm.
http://www.amazon.com/20mm-Aluminiu...50MR8CG/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_i/179-5237737-1717433
Have a replacement back and second battery/external charger coming, will trim the back to fit the heatsink and have a back/battery for day to day use of the Note 4, will swap them out for VR use. I can trim the fins a bit and get the transparent cover on it, I think it'll work fine with a bit less surface area with the trimmed fins.
Am still pretty impressed with what Samsung has done, but it's not ready for general consumer use yet till they get the heat management sorted out.
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Jeepers. If channeling that much heat through the battery to need this, that is bad for the battery and the device overall. Another reason why I just watch movies, since seems too much for the current chipset design. That, or poor power management firmware........
I'm avoiding this problem for a long time by selecting saving mode in note 4, don't disturb mode and confortable mode in gear vr. Last day I could watch the entire 3 chapter of game of thrones, and after that 30 minutes playing hero of bounds, and no heating message showed up, I just stopped to go to bed
Keep pushing
Cold As Ice
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All setting turned up all the way! Never gets hot!!!
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All setting turned up all the way! Never gets hot!!!
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Hey @brekstar i have a question for you please pm me you have yours turn off so people cant send you pms. Thanks
Dumb question but can you use the Gear VR without the battery in the phone and just power it via the USB cable? Would that help with the overheating?
pliablemoose said:
I used a 9cmX4cm heatsink from Amazon and some thermal paste/epoxy, fit perfectly, and it hasn't overheated yet, just gamed for about 45 min, and the heatsink was barely warm.
http://www.amazon.com/20mm-Aluminiu...50MR8CG/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_i/179-5237737-1717433
Have a replacement back and second battery/external charger coming, will trim the back to fit the heatsink and have a back/battery for day to day use of the Note 4, will swap them out for VR use. I can trim the fins a bit and get the transparent cover on it, I think it'll work fine with a bit leurface area with the trimmed fins.
Am still pretty impressed with what Samsung has done, but it's not ready for general consumer use yet till they get the heat management sorted out.
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I went "the heat sink route" as well today.. I bought this 60x150x25mm aluminum heat sink. Since the heat sink was so large i drilled a hole for the camera so or else the heat sink wouldn't be tight enough to the phone to work properly. But the after the hole was done and I was going to try it for a fit... the heat sink was actually too wide to fit between the clips that keep the phone in place.
So I had to cut of a couple of centimeters. Of course my previous camera hole had to be cut away. But after a while I got the whole thing pretty right. Now I fitted the heat sink to the external cover. There it sits quite tight so I can press the the heat sink against the phone before use.
Often I sit with one hand one the touch pad and the other hand on the left side.
But what was so awesome was that I could play for like... forever... before I've always ended up with overheating . But now the there was no heat problems, no lagging or any smoothness problems. Btw I have Note 4 Snapdragon. A new experience.. I've tried all the gfx and cpu intense stuff.. and it was smooth like butter..
And the moment the mod is pretty rough.. just a proof of concept.. . maybe I Dremmel the sharp edges at least.
On first pic I covered the contact points and the lens.
Here is the heat sink from the front in the mount:
Here is the back side with hole for the lens.. look for the drill/break removal hole
Then a couple of pictures of the Gear VR in his shiny new armour:
OMG is that Daft Punk? No it is not easy to take a selfie with Gear VR:
Recently saw this post on the Seattle VR/AR Facebook group
He added a fan with aux power: