[Q] Root without supersu app - G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I want to use a Moto G 2014 in some kind of kiosk mode. That means modified rom with only one application that runs in front of everything. This application, all future helper scripts and system binaries must have root access. So I would like to have a su binary without the supersu app, that may pop-up and ask for permission.
I know I can change the settings of supersu not to pop-up and ask. But I recently had some problems with this settings and the dialog showed up again.
I would feel much better if there was a way to run the su binary without the needed interaction with the supersu app. I have googled for a few hours and read threads here in the forums. But I haven't found a good way to do this. Most answers refer to a normal phone and why the user should keep supersu.
- Do you have any glue how to do this?
- Is the su binary of supersu somewhere OpenSource, so I can modify it to get rid of the communication with the app?
- Are there any alternatives to supersu that work with lollipop?
- Is there already a working patched linker for the Moto G 2014 to bypass PIE
Alternatives:
https://github.com/koush/Superuser/issues/268 seems not to work with lollipop because of PIE
Thank you for your help!

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SuperSu not granting automatic permissions anymore

hey guys i have one problem with supersu.
i installed clean master and do cleaning **** and startup cleaning things and after reboot all apps that have granted root permission( foldermount, gmd gestures, lightflow, etc), these apps shows no toast popup after boot and to make them grant permissions i have to open them. Same thing when i installed boot manager and did not do anything but boot and again no supersu toast popups about root permissions after boot.
is there a way to keep the root grants after the boot? ( i have checked default acces to grant in supersu app)
I'm having problems with clean master working with SuperSu too.
clean master is so powerfull that disables supersu permissions.
They probably change some file permissions that SuperSU frowns at.
Chainfire said:
They probably change some file permissions that SuperSU frowns at.
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i want to maintain supersu permissions after every boot no matter what. is there some option in supersu to be activated for that?
i'm on note 3 rooted with stock tw.
''enable supersu during boot''
please explain to me for what is this option
thx :good:
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dancapitan said:
''enable supersu during boot''
please explain to me for what is this option
thx :good:
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This option has a summary that's pretty unclear. I've emailed the dev, hope to receive an answer soon. Fact is apps running during the boot_completed seem to get root randomly if this option is not enabled! Let me insist on the random fact, as my apps get root on boot frequently but not all the time. Other users have reported the same random behavior. Once the option is enabled everything works as expected!
However the option seem to imply that any root request on boot will be granted!? Regardless of user choice????
To make it short, check the option "enable supersu during boot" and root apps will receive root on boot as they used to!
3c said:
This option has a summary that's pretty unclear. I've emailed the dev, hope to receive an answer soon. Fact is apps running during the boot_completed seem to get root randomly if this option is not enabled! Let me insist on the random fact, as my apps get root on boot frequently but not all the time. Other users have reported the same random behavior. Once the option is enabled everything works as expected!
However the option seem to imply that any root request on boot will be granted!? Regardless of user choice????
To make it short, check the option "enable supersu during boot" and root apps will receive root on boot as they used to!
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You should turn this into a proper bug report in the proper thead (either the beta or its own new thread) with all the useful information you think may be relevant. There is no email support, all support is here.
The option itself is for apps that run before Android is fully up and running, or su from adb shell during a bootloop, etc. I thould not influence apps running su from bootcomplete receivers, and if it does, then that needs to be investigated.
Is there currently any way to enable this feature via ADB on a boot looped phone? I really wish I would have known about this! I wouldn't be stuck where I'm at if I had only checked this option. Device is stuck at LG logo, no download or recovery, but has access to ADB. SU was installed, but I don't have root via ADB since the phone isn't finished booting...thus I'm not able to copy over the proper system.img or change the recovery/laf. Dang!
I have the problem too, when I install Fake Wifi, the automatic SuperSU granted is not working. Please help some advance. Thank's.
Hey guys why root required apps request for root access after installing super su
I have the same problem, have to add a task in tasker, auto open supersu and root granted apps once after boot,

Uninstall as system app

The method I used for rooting my LG G3 (v5.0.1) installs SuperSU (2.46) as a system app. I would much prefer to have it be a regular app (as it has always been on my Android devices prior to v5.0). When I use SuperSU to clean up in preparation for "another" SU app, it removes itself and leaves behind a few files (including the su binary) in /system/xbin.
All well and good. However, after now installing SuperSU from the Google Play Store, SuperSU gives the message that there is no su binary installed, and of course refuses to work. I even tried copying su to "sux" and giving the latter 4755 privileges (while still rooted), but that didn't help.
Is this a bug in SuperSU, or is it a necessity of Android 5.x ???
ps: The XDA forum software will not let me post this as a question. Where do I post questions about SuperSU?
DeanGibson said:
The method I used for rooting my LG G3 (v5.0.1) installs SuperSU (2.46) as a system app. I would much prefer to have it be a regular app (as it has always been on my Android devices prior to v5.0). When I use SuperSU to clean up in preparation for "another" SU app, it removes itself and leaves behind a few files (including the su binary) in /system/xbin.
All well and good. However, after now installing SuperSU from the Google Play Store, SuperSU gives the message that there is no su binary installed, and of course refuses to work. I even tried copying su to "sux" and giving the latter 4755 privileges (while still rooted), but that didn't help.
Is this a bug in SuperSU, or is it a necessity of Android 5.x ???
ps: The XDA forum software will not let me post this as a question. Where do I post questions about SuperSU?
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Sorry as I don't have a solution for your problem....
But still as far as I know Super user 2.46 is not fully compatible with android 5 & above.
On other hand I would suggest you to give a try to super user 2.49 beta which is the latest but still under development.
Hope you find this useful.
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DeanGibson said:
The method I used for rooting my LG G3 (v5.0.1) installs SuperSU (2.46) as a system app. I would much prefer to have it be a regular app (as it has always been on my Android devices prior to v5.0). When I use SuperSU to clean up in preparation for "another" SU app, it removes itself and leaves behind a few files (including the su binary) in /system/xbin.
All well and good. However, after now installing SuperSU from the Google Play Store, SuperSU gives the message that there is no su binary installed, and of course refuses to work. I even tried copying su to "sux" and giving the latter 4755 privileges (while still rooted), but that didn't help.
Is this a bug in SuperSU, or is it a necessity of Android 5.x ???
ps: The XDA forum software will not let me post this as a question. Where do I post questions about SuperSU?
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If you want to make SuperSU a user app:
If SuperSU was "updated" by the Play Store (ie there's an eu.chainfire.supersu-*.apk in /data/app), then delete /system/app/SuperSU.apk and reboot. If it's flashed *and* the afore mentioned apk is *not* in /data/app, then move /system/app/SuperSU.apk to /data/app and reboot.
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DeanGibson said:
The method I used for rooting my LG G3 (v5.0.1) installs SuperSU (2.46) as a system app. I would much prefer to have it be a regular app (as it has always been on my Android devices prior to v5.0). When I use SuperSU to clean up in preparation for "another" SU app, it removes itself and leaves behind a few files (including the su binary) in /system/xbin.
All well and good. However, after now installing SuperSU from the Google Play Store, SuperSU gives the message that there is no su binary installed, and of course refuses to work. I even tried copying su to "sux" and giving the latter 4755 privileges (while still rooted), but that didn't help.
Is this a bug in SuperSU, or is it a necessity of Android 5.x ???
ps: The XDA forum software will not let me post this as a question. Where do I post questions about SuperSU?
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If all you wanted to do was make it a user app, reroot, open supersu, go to cleanup and choose for reinstallation. After choosing that, if it says to reboot then press it again, do so, else reboot and install supersu from play. Done, supersu as a user app
mmonaghan34 said:
If all you wanted to do was make it a user app, reroot, open supersu, go to cleanup and choose for reinstallation. After choosing that, if it says to reboot then press it again, do so, else reboot and install supersu from play. Done, supersu as a user app
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That doesn't work (v2.46 on LG G3 running v5.0.1). It loops trying to uninstall. After a couple minutes, I forced a reboot. SuperSU was still there, and as a system app.
Edit: The same thing happens when I tell SuperSU to completely unroot the LG G3. Since I needed to unroot in order to apply an LG/Verizon OTA update, I used LG's Flash Tool to replace the system partition (THAT removed SuperSU!), and then the OTA update was successful.
Since LG now supplies an on-phone backup/restore tool for the G3 as part of the Settings menu, I no longer need to run Titanium Backup, which means I no longer need root. Given the nuisance issues with rooting/unrooting/system updating/etc, I've decided to remain unrooted on the LG G3 for the time being. Quite a change for me, since this is the first Android device in well over a dozen for which I've made this decision.

[Q] SuperSU issues after deodexing stock ROM

Hi Guys, I'm having some issues with SuperSU and was hoping someone might know what is wrong or what I could check.
I recently deodexed my OG2 stock rom so that I could use arter97's port of the exposed frameworks. I used the following guide, which worked great by the way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-deodex-lollipop-rom-t3065596
The only issue is the SuperSU no longer prompts me when apps request root permission. I verified all this with root checker. With SuperSU set to prompt, apps just hang waiting for root which is never granted because I'm not getting the pop-up. However, if I set SuperSU to grant all root requests by default, everything works properly.
Has anyone ever seen something similar to this before? I'd love to get it working properly again. Kind of nervous about having SuperSU set to grant root by default.

Need Help with Z3 Compact

***UPDATE***
I removed Kingroot through their app and unrooted my phone. I tried another one click root, Kingoroot (I know, quite similar names.) The SU which this one installs, isn't restricting me and I successfully set read/write to /system.
I still would prefer to be using superSU but I get a binary occupied message, and the kingouser app doesn't have an option to switch SU app.
For anyone else struggling with kingroot not letting apps work properly, try kingo, who knows.
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I have the Z3 Compact, and I HAVE NO ACCESS to a PC, and thus have rooted my phone with King root (which was a terrible idea but any root is better than no root)
I have this issue, where King root in some way shape or form is not allowing anything that requires write permission to /storage access to it.
This is not allowing me to install/use things like busybox, lucky patcher, freedom, and is also, stopping me from using terminal emulator to do things such as mount -o rw,remount,/system or anything else. I tried to use a system I found on XDA to replace Kingroots superuser to SuperSU to get around this, however, the replace_kinguser method, fails with no write permission, and also, fails to remove kinguser from /system/apps/kinguser because that doesn't exist as a directory and I think Kingroot may have made changes to their superuser handler.
I really, really need help getting Kingroot out, and superSU in. Without the use of a PC. Considering I do, have root, there must be something I can do.
I also can't set system to write with ES file explorer or pretty much any other method on the first ten pages of Google.
Any time I try to set /system to r/w I get permission denied.
I'm running, android 5.0.2
Also, BOOTLOADER UNLOCK ALLOWED? NO
So I don't think I can flash a custom recovery of any kind.

Magisk Manager with built-in su

Hi all!
I might be asking a stupid question, so forgive me if I do.
The situation is the following... I have a TVBOX Q96 HOME 4K (cheap Chinese one based on RK3229) that is pre-rooted. All applications using root work fine. However, there is no "superuser" manager installed on it in order to disallow certain apps to gain root access. In the past I already had a similar situation with some other box and when I installed SuperSU apk the device hasn't boot anymore. I that case I got a stock firmware and could unbrick it, but now I can't find any ROM for this device in order to play with it.
So, the question is... is it possible to install Magisk Manager in order to manage access to the built-in su? Older version I tried correctly identify the device as rooted (with SuperSU 2.76), but do not offer me a Superuser menu where I could manage access to the su of the apps. Neither I get a prompt when an app is requesting access to su.
Any solution to my problem?
No, you will not be able to use the Magisk Manager to manage superuser access for SuperSU.
Any idea what might cause the device to not boot anymore after installing SuperSU.apk?
I compared the installed su binary with the one from chainfire's UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.76-20160630161323.zip (arm7), and they are identical. What does installing an apk alone to the system beside managing the access for the apps?
I have to admit I don't know exactly what happens "behind the scene".
I have absolutely no idea why installing the SuperSU apk would cause your device not to boot... Sorry.
Edit: Wait... You write "installing an apk alone to the system". You're not installing it as a regular app, but to the /system partition? If so, that's what might be causing issues.
Sorry to mislead you... I wrongly expressed myself.
I'm not installing it as a system app - I have installed it (on previous box) as an ordinary user app and as I said the system couldn't boot anymore afterwards (I had to reflash the ROM to unbrick it).
BTW... this is a known issue with these Chinese TVBOXes. There are couple of posts also here in XDA about it and nobody knows AFAIK what is the root cause.

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