Thinking of buying it... need advice! - X 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys!
I am in need of advice from you owners of the phone.
At the moment i have a galaxy nexus, and it kind of has done its job, so i was thinking of changing it with the moto X 2014.
My priorities are materials, dimensions and price. That's what brought me here.
The main reason i'm in doubt is because i've found an online website selling the white version, bamboo back, at 349 euros, which is a great price; but i'm more into the black front, which can be found on other websites, with the plastic back, at 430ish euros.
The question is: bamboo and lower price or plastic and higher price? Is the bamboo back really worth it? How does the plastic feel?
I've seen as many video reviews as can be found. Some say the bamboo feels fantastic, some say it looks like a sticker and gets easily scratched. What do you guys think?
On the other hand the plastic is said to have a good feel and not look like cheap plastic at all.
What is your opinion on this?
What's your opinion of the phone after a while using it? Would you reccomend it?
Thanks in advance, have a good day everyone ^^

check if both are the same capacity i.e 16 GB vs 32 GB has a considerable price differnece.

A lot of people have complained about the wood peeling off. It looks nice, but I have serious doubts about its durability. The soft touch plastic actually has a great feel to it, but aside from black I don't know what other colors have the soft touch. My first one was soft touch black but I exchanged it for black leather, which I absolutely love.
As far as my overall opinion of the phone goes- it's amazing. I've tried all the other flagship phones and there is no doubt in my mind that the X is the best smartphone on the market right now. Get it, you won't be disappointed.

einstien_ncp said:
check if both are the same capacity i.e 16 GB vs 32 GB has a considerable price differnece.
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Thanks for making me notice that unfortunately, they are both 16 gigs.
_MetalHead_ said:
A lot of people have complained about the wood peeling off. It looks nice, but I have serious doubts about its durability. The soft touch plastic actually has a great feel to it, but aside from black I don't know what other colors have the soft touch. My first one was soft touch black but I exchanged it for black leather, which I absolutely love.
As far as my overall opinion of the phone goes- it's amazing. I've tried all the other flagship phones and there is no doubt in my mind that the X is the best smartphone on the market right now. Get it, you won't be disappointed.
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Thanks a lot for your answer, it really helped a lot. Too bad moto maker is only available in America, anyway the black front black back looks really elegant

X 2014
I just purchased the Moto X 2014 Pure Edition (64gb). I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4 GPE which boasts a bigger, removable battery and removable storage. What drew me to this phone was the built in motorola software and the "OK Google" functionality. Overall I'm finding the battery to be a little lack luster; it doesn't hold up like my S4. However, the processor is quick and snappy, and the device overall has, in my opinion, a nice fit and finish. I purchased the black back with the dark silver accents. The phone has a nice weight, and it doesn't feel like it will fly out of my small hands like some lighter phones do. The metal on the rim and the black standard back are also both pleasing to the touch. The back plastic is almost soft to the touch; it isn't your standard shiny plastic. My fiancé has the previous generation Moto X with the dark wood back; one important thing to keep in mind, you're probably going to have this in a case to protect it. This renders the wood completely pointless in my opinion, even with a clear backed case. The OS takes up a fair amount of space, and I would recommend getting the most storage you can afford given that you can't expand it down the road. This phone, unlike the previous model, does not feel cheap in any way. I would easily group it in with S4-S5 quality.
I would encourage you to consider a phone with a bigger battery if you plan to fuss with it regularly throughout your day, or if you don't have a desk job where you can just leave it plugged in. But, otherwise, it's a great little phone with superb software, and I am fairly pleased with it thus far.

Here's my take.... I too had a Galaxy Nexus and then switch to the 2013 Moto X Developer Edition. Loved the Nexus with Paranoid Android. Loved the '13 X and its similar size.
Then I broke my '13 X and got upgraded to the "14 X Pure Edition with a Bamboo back. I have to say that it looks and feels really good. Of course its going into a case, but a clear TPU one. Just got the replacement in today and unlocking the boot loader tonight.
I'd say its a pretty decent phone if you don't mind the on screen buttons. I'm sure you mind coming from a Nexus. By the way, the radio in this phone is way better than Galaxy S4 that I previously owned too.

Mariusrapi said:
Thanks for making me notice that unfortunately, they are both 16 gigs.
Thanks a lot for your answer, it really helped a lot. Too bad moto maker is only available in America, anyway the black front black back looks really elegant
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Yep, that was my first one, it was gorgeous. The only reason why I swapped it for a leather one was because my buddy was twisting my arm.

I have a white bamboo and a base model black on black. I have had no issues with the bamboo peeling or scratching. I'm actually on my 3rd bamboo phone because I had a clumsy week and broke a couple screens. none of them had peeling issues. I like the bamboo and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I love it. the black plastic one is scratched and marred on the back already and IMO is not as scratch resistant as the wood. I left my real camera at work, but I will post pics tomorrow so you can see what I mean.

I have a bamboo one with a black front and love it. I briefly had an S5 but got bored of it as it was to similar to my old phone (S3) so sent it back. The Moto X is a real head turner with the bamboo back and so far I've had no issues with it peeling or scratching and don't use a case.
Regarding the battery I do charge the phone every night but that seems pretty standard with smart phones. Also I've noticed someone at my work who has a HTC M8 and she is charging hers at least once every day, I never need to do this.
Plus also you can get a turbo charger for the moto x which charges the phone ridiculously fast, so its win, win.

rob342 said:
plastic one is scratched and marred on the back already and IMO is not as scratch resistant as the wood....bla bla bla...... I will post pics tomorrow so you can see what I mean.
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here you go. see attached.
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i understand the fear of peeling, but i don't know why wood gets such a bad wrap. if plastic was so tough we'd make houses out of it, but we use wood for a good reason, from the framing to the floor. i make signs for a living. same thing. people come in here not wanting wood because they think it won't last. Outdoors, the MDO plywood signs i make last about 15 years before they even start to show their age. Outdoor plastic signs i make get brittle, crack, warp, and discolor after about two. What i'm saying seems consistent with this picture of two 5 month old phones

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i understand the fear of peeling, but i don't know why wood gets such a bad wrap. if plastic was so tough we'd make houses out of it, but we use wood for a good reason, from the framing to the floor. i make signs for a living. same thing. people come in here not wanting wood because they think it won't last. Outdoors, the MDO plywood signs i make last about 15 years before they even start to show their age. Outdoor plastic signs i make get brittle, crack, warp, and discolor after about two. What i'm saying seems consistent with this picture of two 5 month old phones
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That comparison doesn't really work. The wood on the x is veneer, and it's the adhesive that's failing. If it was a thick piece of wood, I wouldn't question its durability, but it is super thin, probably around .5mm. No house is built from wood that thin.
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_MetalHead_ said:
That comparison doesn't really work. The wood on the x is veneer, and it's the adhesive that's failing. If it was a thick piece of wood, I wouldn't question its durability, but it is super thin, probably around .5mm. No house is built from wood that thin.
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which one shows its age more in the pics?

rob342 said:
which one shows its age more in the pics?
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What does that have to do with the adhesive failing?

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Seidio Innocase Surface Review (quick/dirty)

My previous phone was a Heroc and it was wrapped with an Otterbox Commuter case. I LOVED that case. It saved my phone on numerous occasions from physical trauma and liquid disasters.
Unfortunately, Otterbox doesn't have a case developed for the Evo Shift yet. Hopefully they will soon though: twitter[dot]com/OtterBox/status/24490743817052160
I'm not a fan of the fake carbon fiber of the case Sprint offers so I went with the Seidio Innocase Surface.
The case itself seems a little flimsy/thin for it's $29.99 price point. However, it does an adequate job of covering the phone. Also, there's about a 3mm lip around the screen so I don't have to worry about placing it face down. This matters to me because I'm not too fond of screen protectors. I've tried them for the iPhone and Heroc and in my opinion, they degradate the touch surface too much to justify their use. For the year I've had the Heroc, there is not a single scratch on the screen. I have the same faith in the Evo Shift now that it has a case.
After a couple days of use, the only con I can think of is that it does make it a bit harder to use the top row of the physical keyboard. I'm getting used to it, but I was definitely frustrated with the typos I would make during the first day.
UPDATE:
Per questions below:
The case feels just like the original plastic of the Shift's body, if anything it feels "softer". (That's the best adjective I can come up with to describe the difference).
Also, to completely secure the screen portion of the case, I had to slightly pry the screen up from the base to make the gap wide enough to fit the left side clips in between them. When sliding the screen, it is now noticeable stiffer due to this. I think this will be an issue with any body case for the Evo Shift, since there is no gap in the sliding mechanism normally.
I didn't notice this before, but the top right clip of the screen portion of the protector comes unclipped when closing the phone. From what I can tell, the sliding mechanism isn't as forgiving as the bottom so it can't wedge itself between the screen and the base causing it to become lose. Though more than 1 of the 4 clips would need to come undone before it would detach the screen portion of the case.
UPDATE:
I rarely use the FN/Shift so I didn't notice until it was mention below. The case does cover those lights above the keyboard.
Dimensions with case (L x W x T):
Metric: 122mm x 64mm x 20mm
Imperial: 4.8" x 2.48" x 0.79"
Dimensions without case:
Metric: 117mm x 59mm x 15mm
Imperial: 4.61" x 2.32" x 0.59"
Wow. I really like the look. Thanks for the pictures. I'm contemplating buying it...
Does the screen protector portion of the case feel like it is going to stay on? I had bought a case like this for my old moment and the screen part wore down in like 2-3 months and it wouldn't stay on taking it in and out of my pocket.
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how is the texture? I like the feel of the shift's battery door, it is smooth enough to not rip your pocket out... but sticky enought to help keep it from sliding.
DWake014 said:
Does the screen protector portion of the case feel like it is going to stay on? I had bought a case like this for my old moment and the screen part wore down in like 2-3 months and it wouldn't stay on taking it in and out of my pocket.
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I haven't had an issues with that happening. Though I could see it being a possibility. To attach the left side of the screen portion securely, I had to slightly "pry" up the screen from the base so that the clips could attach. This does make the sliding mechanism noticeably stiffer.
BuddahWolf01 said:
how is the texture? I like the feel of the shift's battery door, it is smooth enough to not rip your pocket out... but sticky enought to help keep it from sliding.
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It feels exactly like the original plastic, maybe a little "softer". I don't notice any difference when putting it or taking it of my pants pocket.
cool, thanks for the info. I'm thinking of picking one of these up. Now my main concern is if I'll be annoyed by the top row of keys not having much room. I already make most of my mistakes on the top row.
Thanks for the review, I was looking into getting one of these cases as well. I do have a question though. How thick is the phone with the case on?
BuddahWolf01 said:
cool, thanks for the info. I'm thinking of picking one of these up. Now my main concern is if I'll be annoyed by the top row of keys not having much room. I already make most of my mistakes on the top row.
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Yeah, it definitely covers the LEDs for caps lock and function lock.
Try slightly sliding your keyboard in a tad to cover the LEDs and see if the reduced space bothers you or messes up your typing.
Thanks for the tip. Ill have to give that a try. Uh, I'm doing that right now, and I think I like it better this way. Is that weird?
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I want to get a case for mine, but my biggest concern is making the phone thicker than it already is. I don't want it to not fit in my pocket.
adamr240 said:
I want to get a case for mine, but my biggest concern is making the phone thicker than it already is. I don't want it to not fit in my pocket.
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Surprisingly the cases don't seem to make the phone much thicker. I'm still able to place the phone in the leg pocket of ky carpenter pants really easily. My Hero and my wife's Moment were both super thick with a case, but not the Shift.
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ryocho said:
Thanks for the review, I was looking into getting one of these cases as well. I do have a question though. How thick is the phone with the case on?
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Dimensions with case (L x W x T):
Metric: 122mm x 64mm x 20mm
Imperial: 4.8" x 2.48" x 0.79"
Dimensions without case:
Metric: 117mm x 59mm x 15mm
Imperial: 4.61" x 2.32" x 0.59"
There is a coupon code for that site.
DISC2011
Will get you 10% off.
I'm picking up a purple one for my wife and can add some pics to this thread too if people want to see another color option on a phone.
What is that spiky, purple thing in the last pic?
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Dimensions with case (L x W x T):
Metric: 122mm x 64mm x 20mm
Imperial: 4.8" x 2.48" x 0.79"
Dimensions without case:
Metric: 117mm x 59mm x 15mm
Imperial: 4.61" x 2.32" x 0.59"
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Thanks for the info
silex said:
What is that spiky, purple thing in the last pic?
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Haha, it's a cat brush. I couldn't get the phone to balance on its side so I used to to hold it up.
http://www.amazon.com/Kong-Zoom-Groom-For-Cat/dp/B00009ZJ0Q
Curiosity did not kill the cat this time, hehe.
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concern
I too am not interested in adding size to my phone.
I am most interested in the Ghost Armor product. All the protection, with no additional size.
I have this case as well for my phone, and i love it!!! doesn't add any really noticeable size to the phone and gives it the right amount of protection... great case

Incipio HTC Vivid Feather Ultralight Hard Shell Case

Well, when I got my Vivid, I was leaving 4 years of iPhones behind, so I don't know a life without using phone cases, since we all know how not-that-resistant iPhones are.
The thing is, I live in Brazil and the HTC Vivid isn't sold here. A friend brought it to me from a trip to USA, and I needed a case, and the only way was to buy it online.
It took me weeks of love making with Google until I finally found a store that seemed reliable and that didn't charge over US$80 only for the shipment.
I was really into the Speck purple-ish one, but the shipment was still expensive (don't remember how much they wanted to charge me but it was more expensive than the case itself so still not worth it). I'd seen many people talking about lots of cases that only had in black, and my phone is white so that didn't make any sense.
So I came across myIncipio.com. They offer two different cases for the HTC Vivid, and I chose the Feather Ultralight one, because of the material its made, the colour, price & shipment rates.
Yeah, it leaves all the buttons free, and I'm not that into this on the case, but other than that it's really good. I got it in blue so it looks really good on my white phone.
I've had several polycarbonate cases in the past and I thought this would be the same as them, but the touch is really soft, in a way that I can't describe. It feels so amazing that on the first few days with the case I was always stroking it - lol.
My phone hasn't suffered any falls since I bought the case, so I can't say much on this yet, but it seems to be protective enough - of course it's so slim that it could protect much better, but i believe that it'll work great for every day use. I tend to drop my phones a lot when trying to put them on my pockets (I'm not very bright and I wear super tight jeans a lot) and this case seems to be perfect for this kinda thing.
Anyways, if you're looking for a nice case that won't look bulky, this is the one.
It's US$14.99 on myIncipio.com
Also it comes with a clear screen protector & the usual cloth + applicator card, it's really easy to apply and I didn't get any bubbles at all, didn't have to use the applicator. It's not anti glare or anything but looks really clear and avoid scratches quite fine.
And note that my buttons are getting copper-ish.
It looks really sleek
Although it looks like it wont do well with falls, but good at maintaining everyday wear and tear.
It probably doesn't add any weight to the phone?
i also have the white vivid and this blue case and i love it it doesn't get in the way of any head phone jack
DjSpunz said:
It looks really sleek
Although it looks like it wont do well with falls, but good at maintaining everyday wear and tear.
It probably doesn't add any weight to the phone?
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No, it doesn't add any weight at all.
Just a few hours after I posted here my phone dropped for the first time since I bought the case a couple of weeks ago.
Not a single scratch neither on the phone or the case itself. So far so good.
I was really worried because the back cover just ends up half the way across the room when the phone drops and I read people saying that it might damage it permanently, like never being able to keep it in the right place again.
So I'm really glad to have something holding the back cover in place.
And it's incredibly light, and oooh feels so good to touch that I'm starting to concern my friends, can't stop stroking the phone - ROFL.
My wife has the same case and seems to like it...I have the white, Speck candy shell, which I love...it covers everything accept the screen...and the camera and speakers of course...had it off and on hundreds of times while flashing ROMS, taking sd card in and out, and the case has held up to the abuse. Think it was around $30...AT&T and amazon both have them.
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Already dented my N5

Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Strange. The Cruzerlite (which are thin TPU cases, cheap in my opinion) drop test stood up to NUMEROUS drops & the device survived without any sign of damage. Not a scratch or dent.
Is you device white or black? My old Nexus 10 had a defect in the black soft touch coating that looked like a dent, but it was more likely an issue in the molding or application process.
vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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Pics?
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Endoran said:
Pics?
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Mine is the white version, but the dent is on the top right above the camera, on the black portion, right where the side casing touches the glass. I would have a very hard time photographing this because of where it is on the phone/lighting etc.. ill try when I get home though.
vodka7 said:
Thats right folks, the out edge of this that lies around the screen is very, very brittle and thin. I have never dropped the phone and it has been in my spigen leather pouch for my old nexus since I bought it, no idea how it got dented, and its only very slight without scratches but it is definitely there.. just a forewarning.
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a picture speaks a thousand words
I have about 5 or so nicks on the sides where the glass and plastic edge meet on my naked white N5. I agree that the plastic used is pretty brittle but it's not noticeable unless you really look for it.
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Get a sufficient case otherwise you can't really complain...
I have one little mark or nick as well where the plastic case meets the glass on that tiny little lip. My 2 year old got a hold of my phone and dropped it on a metal external hard drive case the day I got it and it landed right on 90 degree edge of the case... I went temporarily insane. It is very small but kind of surprised me I guess. I dropped my galaxy S3 many times and never got more than the little hairline scratches you see in glossy plastic. That soft touch coating seems to have some give to it. It was my fault. My parents gave my kids a new ipad mini and I set my phone on top of it. I was in the other room and heard him say "new tablet". I knew at that moment the mistake I had made...
I have one of those really slim cases on the way which would have prevented it. I typically don't use cases and am usually not bothered by the small marks I get on my phones but because some of those ultra thin cases are so slim now days I am going to try one out. Marking up a brand new phone is a little different than one that's a year+ old...
I too, also have a slight dent under the screen bezel part of mine. I have never dropped mine. Noticed it while it was on the table; that the reflection of the curtain was slightly bent at the one area, instead of being completely straight. Looked closely, and sure enough, there was a dent. It's not noticeable during day-to-day use, but you CAN notice it if looking at the reflection it shows.
The chrome bezel on the nexus 4 was susceptible to dents as well.
A few weeks ago the Nexus 5 flew out of my hands and landed on our concrete driveway. I feared the worst, but only a small dent in the upper left corner of the back panel and some scratching is all that happened. Lucky me, but I still hate it. Never had a single blemish on the Nexus 4.
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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen
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The sides of this phone are fine, besides the fact that they collect dust like crazy. The screen, however, is not. Another guy posting on Android Central also reported having a dent, similar to mine. I actually think this dent came with my device. I noticed it a couple of weeks ago, but disregarded it, as I thought it was the screen protector that came with the phone, but I decided to remove it and check again. It IS a part of the screen
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Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.
bblzd said:
Normal. That's why most early glass screen protectors were not sticking properly.
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Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?
Hobbesfed said:
Normal? How is a dent on the screen normal? My Nexus 10 does not have this, my old Samsung Vibrant does not have this. Why would a dent on a Nexus 5 be normal?
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I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even in the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear. It's also not the screen itself but around it.
Dented
In my N5 have no dent and any scratch..
I love with my N5
bblzd said:
I would say it's normal because of the following reasons:
1) it doesn't effect the usage of the device in any way
2) it's barely noticeable even the "perfect" lighting conditions
3) many have reported the exact same thing in the early tempered glass threads; the only time it has ever come up or been noticed.
So why exactly is it a problem for you? Corners were cut to make this phone at a cheap price I would think that's pretty clear.
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There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.
Hobbesfed said:
There's a difference between "corners being cut" to make the device cheaper and really poor quality control. I understand them using a less camera module and a lower capacity battery, and a screen that washes out when tilted, etc, but the numerous issues with the hardware is ridiculous. Dents in screen, poor GPS connectivity, Wi-Fi problems, dust under screen, loose vibration motor, rattling buttons, and so on.
There is no reason for hardware bugs like this. To lower the price, lesser powerful hardware is used, but the low price is no excuse for poor quality. Like some users said, in terms of hardware, this device is like an alpha, and the only way to receive the "perfect" device is to continuously RMA.
We paid for the device, we should not be getting so many faults and issues.
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How is it even a defect? It's not even noticeable. No one would consider it a hardware bug except apparently you. Please explain how this effects the usage of your device in any way.
Poor quality control is EXACTLY how corners are cut. Manufacturing anything has margin of errors and the less margin of error you're willing to release the more phones are "thrown away" and the more money a released device will cost. I'd explain more but I'm sure Wikipedia or a Google search can better explain the finer points of manufacturing and quality control then I can.
You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?
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You read the specs of the phone and it has everything a $700 phone has but it costs $400. How did you think that was accomplished?
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There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.
LeoRex said:
There is a lot of discussion about that price... but Google routinely undercuts the competition when it comes to the nexus line (looking at you, 7)
Looking at the specs of the 5, then looking at comparable phones out ing the market, the only conclusion I can come to is that Google is letting these things go at either zero margin, or (my thought) at a fairly beefy loss.... kicking back cash to LG to cover their losses.
All you need to do is look at the other phones available at the same full retail price... does the 5 seem anywhere close to those? Nope, it blows them all out of the water... laughable in most cases. Now, you can cut corners to lower prices, but you can't cut THAT much.
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The actual cost break down might never be known. One thing is for sure though, LG is not willing to take any loss and whatever Google may have paid them "extra" they will still try and build the phone as cheap as they possibly can.
LG does not consider the Nexus as their flagship phone and will never treat it as such. It's a phone they were contracted to build and they will cut every corner they can. It's just business.

Football Leather (Verizon) how is it holding up?

Like the title says, how is the football leather holding up for everyone currently? I'm very interested in one but I don't want it to look like complete crap in a couple months.
Thanks for any insight!
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I came here with the same question. looks like it remains a mystery. I did purchase one, right now they are .99 with contract renewal. We shall see....
I've had mine since January and it has held up really well. No scratches or scuff marks, no separation at the edges or corners, and I have never had a case on it. It might be a little darker in spots from oil from my fingers, etc, but it still looks basically new to me. Hope that helps.
9 months in and it actually looks better than when I got it. It has softened up and the color is a bit darker. Really happy with it.

Quality feel (use of materials)

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Meh. It ain't no Note 7. That said, what wows me is performance first. My phone will be in a case which means aesthetics is moot.
The design isn't exciting, but honestly I didn't think much of the glass note 7. That stupid thing fell out of my pocket while I was laying down and cracked the back and the camera lens cover. as douger1957 said it'll be in a case anyway.
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Meh. It ain't no Note 7. That said, what wows me is performance first. My phone will be in a case which means aesthetics is moot.
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agreed...the quality of my N7 was amazing...as for the V20, screen looks great...i like the simplicity of the design...performance is great as well!!
It is an elegant understated design IMHO, least in the titanium color. Done well. Varying materials match colors (matching Al to plastic ain't easy), feels good in the hand for a naked phone (most are ice cubes).
before everyone was complaining about samsung and others that they dont use "premium" materials.
Now when they do glass/metal is bad also. Easy to crack, fingerprint magnet and at the end you put case on it so what's the point really?! just higher premium price. every phone in case will look almost the same no matter if its glass or metal or plastic but people wanted so they have it
I think my V10 felt more solid, but this phone is great too!
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I think my V10 felt more solid, but this phone is great too!
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I must concur with you. I in particular liked the steel rails of the V10, which were attached to the main body. I suspect the V20 would have done better in the torture test of trying to bend the main body if it still had the steel rails. Looks like most of the rigidity of the V20 comes from aluminum back, which isn't fully attached. True, that was a torture test, but still...
it's not shiny armor nor glossy glass. But since Optimus G Pro, I stick to LG products for their build quality. G Pro, G 3, G Flex 2 and now V20, all these guys looks and feels solid in my hand.
I'm coming from note 4. I feel that the built quality is nice. For metal phone it's light in hand, big enough to fit the hands. Nice to hold.
Also the screen is awesome. So far I'm liking the phone.
I wish I had note 7, but due to their fiasco, I purchased this and I'll be with it for some time now. I don't plan on getting a new phone until this one dies.
as for the V20, screen looks great
Honestly, I don't think it's the nicest looking phone I've ever had.
But, It fits in my hand perfectly and compared to my old samsung phones, it feels much more solid. Compared to the note 5, I can reach all of the screen with one hand no problem. I like the more rugged, metal look of the phone.
They have an obviously flawed camera glass design that is shattering for thousands of people for no reason and LG is refusing to own the issue as usual. Otherwise it feels like good quality.
Just be prepared to have a useless camera.
Maybe it has a kind of industrial look. but it is tough as hell! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2El1Fo8Pqc 1000Ft drop and it still works lol!
Who needs a glass back that easily cracks. It'll be in a case anyway as pointed out well in most posts. Mine had a case from the moment I bought it. Just a cheap $4 at first but bought the ringke onyx and spigen tempered glass instantly as well.
Purchased dbrand stickers as well for the rear dual cam since the factory installed clear plastic ones seems to be not durable and won't last long. Though I still have them on for addt'l layer of protection. I find drop protection more useful than waterproof or dust proof ability.
Durability
Speaking of durability, a guy dropped a V20 a thousand feet from a drone onto a concrete parking lot, and the camera glass didn't break, the phone was actually still functional. The glass seems to be more vulnerable to a scratch or maybe a direct hit, a guy scratched it with a box cutter and the glass cracked, something a protective skin should help with.
Ok gang, v20 has to be one of my ever lasting phones.
I've dropped it a few times (with case one and off) no issues.
Now my wife is using it, and it got into my little ones possession, and Bam .... To the floor ... Initially there was issues with the microphone. Saw the headphone icon on the top. I did the insert and pull out of headphone trick people mentioned on blog, after I did a soft reset.
I even cautiously or tried to replicate the drop see if it would goggle loose pieces together.
But after 2 days of waiting the headphone icon disappeared and my wife called me to see if mic was working and it was I was able to hear her.
So just getting it out there for anyone else with a similar predicament .... It's not solution but at least it will provide some hope for the problem to just wait it out.
kparikh82276 said:
Ok gang, v20 has to be one of my ever lasting phones.
I've dropped it a few times (with case one and off) no issues.
Now my wife is using it, and it got into my little ones possession, and Bam .... To the floor ... Initially there was issues with the microphone. Saw the headphone icon on the top. I did the insert and pull out of headphone trick people mentioned on blog, after I did a soft reset.
I even cautiously or tried to replicate the drop see if it would goggle loose pieces together.
But after 2 days of waiting the headphone icon disappeared and my wife called me to see if mic was working and it was I was able to hear her.
So just getting it out there for anyone else with a similar predicament .... It's not solution but at least it will provide some hope for the problem to just wait it out.
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Lucky. When I had a v20, lots of horror stories every week on Reddit about minor bumps breaking camera glass. One nice thing about the v20--a million screws but it is easy to tear apart and replace things if they die.

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