[Q] Does HTC desire 510 support MHL output? - HTC Desire 510

Hello folks,
I would love to stream videos on TVs and the only way to do this is via a mhl output. (Micro USB to HDMI output, also with adaptor) Could anyone confirm that my phone has such support?
Thanks!

maxime506 said:
Hello folks,
I would love to stream videos on TVs and the only way to do this is via a mhl output. (Micro USB to HDMI output, also with adaptor) Could anyone confirm that my phone has such support?
Thanks!
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No, afaik we don't have the underlying kernel support. This could be added in the future though. I have tried 2 adapters, couldn't get it to work on stock or cm11
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Thanks for the reply.
Did you try other methods such as pushing mhl kernel from other HTC rom to your device yet?

This looks interesting.. is this possible with device with modified kernel ?? I am wondering .. any comments from Experts..

Sarvesh.huddedar said:
This looks interesting.. is this possible with device with modified kernel ?? I am wondering .. any comments from Experts..
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Everything is possible if someone works hard enough to get it done! Right now the phone is not currently capable of this since it's not built in to the kernel.. But it can be done.

Thanks for the ray of light.
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Sarvesh.huddedar said:
Thanks for the ray of light.
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I'm actually using Airsync on DoubleTwist app to watch movies that are on my phone by sending it streaming to my DishTV Hopper box and it's a perfect picture too... I know this is not the type of streaming people have in mind but being able to send video's from my phone to the hopper is awesome since the TV is 60 inches lol..
The other thing is you can still use the entire phone while you're streaming something and it won't get interrupted which I like so I can answer questions like these on here and do other things while the movie plays.

MrMike2182 said:
I'm actually using Airsync on DoubleTwist app to watch movies that are on my phone by sending it streaming to my DishTV Hopper box and it's a perfect picture too... I know this is not the type of streaming people have in mind but being able to send video's from my phone to the hopper is awesome since the TV is 60 inches lol..
The other thing is you can still use the entire phone while you're streaming something and it won't get interrupted which I like so I can answer questions like these on here and do other things while the movie plays.
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Nice features there, but still not the same thing as MHL in which your entire screen is mirrored to the tv. Would LOVE to play my hardcore games with my Moga Pro from across the room. I've tried Airplay and Mirrorcast and BBQ Screen and various others to stream to my pc (rip :,( ) but it's so difficult without a powerful enough system to battle latency on those apps and the artifacting is atrocious no matter your data speeds on wifi or usb. Also it slows down the device trying to do too many things at once, not helping matters any.
If MHL was somehow pushed into a kernel (honestly not likely...I've done the research) it wouldnt be usable as our pins on the usb port aren't capable of pushing power out the cable for the hdmi signal.
I wish there was a much better app that would output the screen in a lossless format to a computer screen or some sort of dongle. But alas...

dragonhart6505 said:
Nice features there, but still not the same thing as MHL in which your entire screen is mirrored to the tv. Would LOVE to play my hardcore games with my Moga Pro from across the room. I've tried Airplay and Mirrorcast and BBQ Screen and various others to stream to my pc (rip :,( ) but it's so difficult without a powerful enough system to battle latency on those apps and the artifacting is atrocious no matter your data speeds on wifi or usb. Also it slows down the device trying to do too many things at once, not helping matters any.
If MHL was somehow pushed into a kernel (honestly not likely...I've done the research) it wouldnt be usable as our pins on the usb port aren't capable of pushing power out the cable for the hdmi signal.
I wish there was a much better app that would output the screen in a lossless format to a computer screen or some sort of dongle. But alas...
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Right it's definitely not MHL that's why I said I know it's not the type of streaming people are looking for but it suits me for now.. On the other hand, getting MHL into the kernel is gonna be time consuming not to mention the phone doesn't really even have enough RAM anyways.. But still it 'can' be done.

MrMike2182 said:
Right it's definitely not MHL that's why I said I know it's not the type of streaming people are looking for but it suits me for now.. On the other hand, getting MHL into the kernel is gonna be time consuming not to mention the phone doesn't really even have enough RAM anyways.. But still it 'can' be done.
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That's what my initial thought was for mobile high-definition streaming it just need to translate pixels into hd quality picture which I think should be possible very well with 1gb. only thing I think of is when we try high quality games on these devices will fail.. In other words if anything apart from display which is consuming cpu or other resources will have some problem..
Hence wondering if we should try same or not...
No harm compiling 1 kernel.. I am really not an expert to compile same but if I get required resources I will definitely try this..
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Sarvesh.huddedar said:
That's what my initial thought was for mobile high-definition streaming it just need to translate pixels into hd quality picture which I think should be possible very well with 1gb. only thing I think of is when we try high quality games on these devices will fail.. In other words if anything apart from display which is consuming cpu or other resources will have some problem..
Hence wondering if we should try same or not...
No harm compiling 1 kernel.. I am really not an expert to compile same but if I get required resources I will definitely try this..
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Well one could always create a swap to use the SD memory card as more RAM because you're definitely right that if you try to run anything else apart from the display like heavy memory usage games its certainly gonna be lagged as all hell or crash!

Sarvesh.huddedar said:
That's what my initial thought was for mobile high-definition streaming it just need to translate pixels into hd quality picture which I think should be possible very well with 1gb. only thing I think of is when we try high quality games on these devices will fail.. In other words if anything apart from display which is consuming cpu or other resources will have some problem..
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Hence wondering if we should try same or not...
No harm compiling 1 kernel.. I am really not an expert to compile same but if I get required resources I will definitely try this..
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Would do no good. As I said it's not a kernel limitation, or even a kernel feature. It's hardware related. Technically speaking, every Android device is capable of using MHL...has been since Gingerbread afaik. But the problem comes in the sending of the signal through the usb port. Certain usb ports have a different pin-out specifically for sending enough power through the cable to the television as a digital signal. Most Samsung devices have this because they use very similar ports. But not alot of other brands support it. Sure, the higher end HTC devices do and the newer LG/Moto/etc, but we're not going to get it on the D510.
Also swap doesn't quite work the way you think. It doesn't physically add speed to your system just by having the partition and supported kernel/app (currently rhinstone is the only swappable kernel, use RamExpander for best results). It's not exactly adding 3gb of ram, it's adding cache space for the physical ram to dump to when memory runs out. It is a small increase in performance, well worthwhile actually, but not going to improve gaming or multitasking as well as you'd hope
Edit: forgot to mention each brand has a dedicated MHL application to manage the output, so even if it WAS a kernel feature (again, it's not) you would need to find the corresponding MHL.apk that would support our device

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A shiny toy from LG just landed

Hi guys .. just got the Optimus 2x review unit.
I have it for about 2 weeks to try.
You guys got any questions about the device ? anything you want to know ? Will try to answer
Status LED
Oh Great!
yeah, here's the first one:
I saw on different pictures just left to the upper speaker several... let's say "spots".. in the display. I suppose one is for the brightness regulation and the others? For what they are? Would be amazing if one of these spots is a Status LED! Could you come up with this info?
thanks!
PS: h t t p://presse.lge.de/riot-utils/download/media/3/87566576697678/lg_optimus_speed_2.jpg Here you'll see what I mean.
probably proximity senzor, I dont think it has led indicator.
test battery life with sync and all apps and backround services,debugging etc off.
tet standby over a night with 3g and 2g.
then test heavy sufing with opera mini and standard browser on lowest and hight brightness
Yeah battery is important.
real life performance
Hi
I would be interested to know how smooth the optimus 2x would be after one day of usage and without using an application killer.
from my experience with the Galaxy S, the phone is quite smooth at boot time, but after sometime of usage where you would open and exit apps, the phone would get really laggy and even unusable to the extent that you have to reboot. People resort to using task killers to improve the phone performance which negates the purpose behind the android OS as it is designed to run at the same speed irrespective of whether you have 200 mb of free ram or 40 mb of free ram
So is this same with the optimus 2X or is the smooth experience persistent
Thanks
sadly .. its only the proximity sensor and nothing else .. digged into the menus and could not find anything about notification led
RADLOUNI said:
Hi
I would be interested to know how smooth the optimus 2x would be after one day of usage and without using an application killer.
from my experience with the Galaxy S, the phone is quite smooth at boot time, but after sometime of usage where you would open and exit apps, the phone would get really laggy and even unusable to the extent that you have to reboot. People resort to using task killers to improve the phone performance which negates the purpose behind the android OS as it is designed to run at the same speed irrespective of whether you have 200 mb of free ram or 40 mb of free ram
So is this same with the optimus 2X or is the smooth experience persistent
Thanks
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It's fault of Froyo not the Phone i think. There is multi task but no chance to close apps. With gingerbread update it will be better i think.
BATTERY ?
Does it play divx/xvid/mkv out of the box? and in 1080p?
If not, does any market app like vplayer or rockplayer solve it?
could you tell me if the LG flavour of Android includes the original News and weather widget?
rouvax said:
It's fault of Froyo not the Phone i think. There is multi task but no chance to close apps. With gingerbread update it will be better i think.
BATTERY ?
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Lag is a software problem not a hardware problem. The question is whether its a problem pertinent to the Android system itself or the vendor specific add-ons (bloatware) that each vendor adds (Touchwiz, htc sense, etc)
Gooler said:
Does it play divx/xvid/mkv out of the box? and in 1080p?
If not, does any market app like vplayer or rockplayer solve it?
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I know for sure that it play divX, but the others i don't know.
Is this a usa version? If so...what carrier?
sent from my galaxy s
RADLOUNI said:
Hi
I would be interested to know how smooth the optimus 2x would be after one day of usage and without using an application killer.
from my experience with the Galaxy S, the phone is quite smooth at boot time, but after sometime of usage where you would open and exit apps, the phone would get really laggy and even unusable to the extent that you have to reboot. People resort to using task killers to improve the phone performance which negates the purpose behind the android OS as it is designed to run at the same speed irrespective of whether you have 200 mb of free ram or 40 mb of free ram
So is this same with the optimus 2X or is the smooth experience persistent
Thanks
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I picked the phone up about a week ago.. Here's what I can tell you about the performance over time.
Immediately after a reboot it runs like a dreams.. even after a couple days its fine. I ended up having to reboot today because it was starting to get pretty laggy. But like rouvax said, i believe thats an OS problem, not a phone problem.
rouvax said:
It's fault of Froyo not the Phone i think. There is multi task but no chance to close apps. With gingerbread update it will be better i think.
BATTERY ?
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The phone comes with an app called CarHome (one of google's apps i believe), which after looking at the battery usage is an energy hog. After killing that, and some of the other bloatware that comes on it, the phone will last me a day or so of light usage with wifi constantly on. Playing a lot of games will obviously drain the battery, down to about 8-10 hrs from what i've noticed, I haven't tested it extensively for exact numbers
Did u have information about the sar value? It's usually add to the box..
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dan_11 said:
Did u have information about the sar value? It's usually add to the box..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932602
Hi!
One thing that would be nice to is if there is a widget to enable/disable mobile data connection.
What I mean is the widget "mobile" that (mostly?) HTC devices have.
Maybe the 2X/Speed has one under "LG Widgets".
Here are some screenshots of what I mean:
HTC Tattoo:
http ://htc.com/uploadedImages/Common/HowTo/HTC_Tattoo/S_Mobile_Network_Widget.png
HTC Desire HD:
http ://htc.com/de/howtoimage.aspx?id=13318
I am sorry to mess up the links, but I am not yet allowed to post external links...
Thank you!
raijinshou said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932602
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I know about this. Thx but i am trying to find out the EU version .. if he got it maybe he can help me(us)
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Hi,
Does the 2x support USB OTG or USB host, i.e. is it possible to access an external USB storage? Would be great to stream media from an external hard drive via DLNA or HDMI. A micro-SD card is too small for a feature-length 1080p movie.
Thanks
- Does it have a good and loud speaker function so it can be used in a car (as navigation)?
- Can de LG launcher be disabled in favor of the stock android launcher?

Help my poor computer..

I know there are better forums to ask this on but I love XDA and figured you guys might know a thing or two about computers..
I bought my HP Pavilion dv6 2190 2 years ago and it has been great to me.. only complaint is that the 6 cell battery give me enough time to un plug and find a new outlet..
Anyways after 2 years, it needed some work.. It has a 1.8Ghz i7, Nvidia GT230m 1GB GPU, and I doubled my RAM from 4GB to 8GB and then took the 500Gb HDD out and installed a clean install of windows 7 professional on a 128GB SSD and then put the 500GB HDD in a caddy and installed it in my DVD bay as media storage, plus I never used my DVD drive..
Now I split the 128GB SSD in two partitions for a Ubuntu and W7 dual boot and Ubuntu flies, no issues with videos, unlimited browsers, all kinds of applications open at once, But W7 just plain sucks.. Browsers when watching a Video, the video will become choppy and the entiresystem will come to a hault.. Also even before the SSD and RAM, Editing in Premiere Pro wasnt this choppy. Sometimes it flies like it should, then other times it gets so bogged down with just one Browser open, or when editing Video with no other programs running and less then 60 total processes running Video playback at 1/4 quality is so hoppy its un useable.
I understand that my computer is 2 years old but with this much new equipment and a clean install I would think it would be happy as a champ in both Ubuntu and W7.
I keep my computer clean and dont have tons of programs bogging it down.. I just want to know what you guys think and what info do you need to help me?
I tried to see if I have and back ground programs or processes that are holdong things back but I cant see anything..
Any ideas?
Last.. Mods feel free to move topic..
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What speed is the 500gb HD? And 1.7 GHz is not that much for video editing. Also make sure you don't have any unnecessary processes running. Go to task manager, second tab, and click the tab that I forgot what it says and I can't check now cuz I'm on a mac. It's the last one.
jaszek said:
What speed is the 500gb HD? And 1.7 GHz is not that much for video editing. Also make sure you don't have any unnecessary processes running. Go to task manager, second tab, and click the tab that I forgot what it says and I can't check now cuz I'm on a mac. It's the last one.
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The HDD is a 7200rpm and is data only. The os and few programs I have are on the SSD. And 1.8 ghz is not blistering fast but has worked just fine before. Plus premiere pro uses the gpu for playback.. And this happens with chrome too. It's not just editing. And I am down to 50-55 processes and they are all system except for the editing program.
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Spend 500 bucks and get a laptop 4 times faster, it's the most logical solution.
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Scan with an antivirus. There might be something there. Also if you have the time, format again, might help.
Sounds like a Hardware Acceleration issue to me. That's a weak GPU and everything you describe as causing problems is when the GPU is being utilised. Try turning off Hardware Acceleration in your Browser/Video Player (DXVA), and see if they run better without it.
Windows may also feel sluggish with Aero turned on as that also uses Hardware Acceleration.
DirkGently said:
Sounds like a Hardware Acceleration issue to me. That's a weak GPU and everything you describe as causing problems is when the GPU is being utilised. Try turning off Hardware Acceleration in your Browser/Video Player (DXVA), and see if they run better without it.
Windows may also feel sluggish with Aero turned on as that also uses Hardware Acceleration.
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+1 turn off Aero.
DirkGently said:
Sounds like a Hardware Acceleration issue to me. That's a weak GPU and everything you describe as causing problems is when the GPU is being utilised. Try turning off Hardware Acceleration in your Browser/Video Player (DXVA), and see if they run better without it.
Windows may also feel sluggish with Aero turned on as that also uses Hardware Acceleration.
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I will turn Aero off and see if that helps.. I remember AVG Tune up had me turn off Aero before I did all these upgrades, I will try that. and I know its a week GPU but it ran the murcery playback engine in Premiere Pro for over a year just fine with 1080 h.264 video with color correcting and multiple layers just fine at 1/2 quality realtime playback and now I can't watch 1/4 quality with out the computer coming to a stand still.. could my GPU have gone bad?
jaszek said:
Scan with an antivirus. There might be something there. Also if you have the time, format again, might help.
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multiple AVG full computer scans never come up with anything more then just empty browser cache and cookies and that small stuff.. I may format both the 500GB HDD and the 128SSD.. I know the HDD could use Defraging and probably should be just wipped.. But still the OS's and Programs are on the SSD.. And Ubuntu runs like a champ so I find it hard to think its so much hardware issue.
itsbeertimenow said:
Spend 500 bucks and get a laptop 4 times faster, it's the most logical solution.
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Its obvious your deep into your beer time.. I just put $200 into this computer to bring it up to speed, I am not buying a new computer.. I only use The hp for video and photo work, 95% of my time is on my Transformer booted into Ubuntu.
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swan3609 said:
Its obvious your deep into your beer time.. I just put $200 into this computer to bring it up to speed, I am not buying a new computer.. I only use The hp for video and photo work, 95% of my time is on my Transformer booted into Ubuntu.
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Why would you spend $200 on something that's not going to be worth half that when you're done.
Shoot your computer it's lame.
itsbeertimenow said:
Why would you spend $200 on something that's not going to be worth half that when you're done.
Shoot your computer it's lame.
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How does that make any sense?
Anyhow, to the OP, couple of things:
1. If your copy of Windows isn't legit, get it legit. I remember I used to have problems on my laptop because I hadn't activated my Windows yet. Once I did, everything was gone.
2. What's your WEI for the graphic card? Maybe do a stress test and see how well it performs.
Well worth checking out whether the GPU has indeed gone bad. Run some tests and monitor temps too as it may be throttling. Don't forget that the age of that Laptop puts in within the period of time of the Nvidia 'Bumpgate' troubles, where their mobile GPU's were dying left and right because of a manufacturing defect.
http://semiaccurate.com/2010/07/11/why-nvidias-chips-are-defective/
kareeem said:
How does that make any sense?
Anyhow, to the OP, couple of things:
1. If your copy of Windows isn't legit, get it legit. I remember I used to have problems on my laptop because I hadn't activated my Windows yet. Once I did, everything was gone.
2. What's your WEI for the graphic card? Maybe do a stress test and see how well it performs.
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Windows is legitimate. I am a student and got w7 professional as a download with a valid product key.
I am not sure about my WEI. I will check it when I get back home. I believe that it was very high 5+ if I remember rightly. I will try testing the card this afternoon and see what is up.
I would be a sad dude if my gpu was bad. I am well out of my warranty
DirkGently said:
Well worth checking out whether the GPU has indeed gone bad. Run some tests and monitor temps too as it may be throttling. Don't forget that the age of that Laptop puts in within the period of time of the Nvidia 'Bumpgate' troubles, where their mobile GPU's were dying left and right because of a manufacturing defect.
http://semiaccurate.com/2010/07/11/why-nvidias-chips-are-defective/
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That sucks. I will check it out. What is the best stress testing application? I have a bad feeling about mine..
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Run rthdribl against it for a while:
http://downloadcenter24.com/video-and-dvd/rthdribl.html
it's a pretty little graphics demo that won't over-stress anything, but can give you some idea if your're GPU is unstable. Run GPU-Z at the same time to monitor temps and to see if the GPU is running at it's proper speed:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
I would use memtest, or the Windows 7 memory test, to check that your RAM is alright too.
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/715-memory-diagnostics-tool.html
DirkGently said:
Run rthdribl against it for a while:
http://downloadcenter24.com/video-and-dvd/rthdribl.html
it's a pretty little graphics demo that won't over-stress anything, but can give you some idea if your're GPU is unstable. Run GPU-Z at the same time to monitor temps and to see if the GPU is running at it's proper speed:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
I would use memtest, or the Windows 7 memory test, to check that your RAM is alright too.
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/715-memory-diagnostics-tool.html
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thank you. My ram is fine. I just swapped for 8gb less than a month ago and it is just fine. I will run some tests on my gpu this afternoon. Thanks again.
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DirkGently said:
Run rthdribl against it for a while:
http://downloadcenter24.com/video-and-dvd/rthdribl.html
it's a pretty little graphics demo that won't over-stress anything, but can give you some idea if your're GPU is unstable. Run GPU-Z at the same time to monitor temps and to see if the GPU is running at it's proper speed:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/
I would use memtest, or the Windows 7 memory test, to check that your RAM is alright too.
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/715-memory-diagnostics-tool.html
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So I ran that applet and it ran just fine gpu around 75-80C and gpu load around 15-20% but premiere and online videos are killer. Not smooth at all.
So as soon as I load up premiere, the gpu maxes out the clock speeds which I assume is OK because it's getting used? It never shows the gpu load to go up though.
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If it's not crashy under load i think we can rule out a GPU failure. What's the CPU utilization while you're running Premier and Videos? Take a look in Task manager to see what it's doing.
It could just be something simple like a dodgy plug-in, or a driver that needs to be re-installed. If you haven't already to could try re-installing/updating the usual candidates. Graphics drivers/Flash/Siverlight/Browser/Sound.
DirkGently said:
If it's not crashy under load i think we can rule out a GPU failure. What's the CPU utilization while you're running Premier and Videos? Take a look in Task manager to see what it's doing.
It could just be something simple like a dodgy plug-in, or a driver that needs to be re-installed. If you haven't already to could try re-installing/updating the usual candidates. Graphics drivers/Flash/Siverlight/Browser/Sound.
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Graphics driver is the most current Nvidia Driver, Flash is current, It happens on all browsers so I want to rule out Chrome, and what about sound could it be? I just figured that the sound uses the built in sounds card on my motherboard.. I assumed my windows updates took care of that..
Device Manager will tell you if there's any problems. Press Win Key+Pause/Break, Device Manager and look for any exclamation marks in yellow triangles.
I'd still be interested to see what the CPU is doing when the issues crop up.
Also, test your drive with HDTune:
http://www.hdtune.com/
It will help diagnose any drive errors.
DirkGently said:
Device Manager will tell you if there's any problems. Press Win Key+Pause/Break, Device Manager and look for any exclamation marks in yellow triangles.
I'd still be interested to see what the CPU is doing when the issues crop up.
Also, test your drive with HDTune:
http://www.hdtune.com/
It will help diagnose any drive errors.
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I will check but I am starting to rule out hardware, only because my ubuntu boot is very very fast. I have never had chrome or firefox slow down on me. So I am thinking about doing a clean wipe of my ssd and my hdd and see if that fixes it.
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swan3609 said:
I will check but I am starting to rule out hardware, only because my ubuntu boot is very very fast. I have never had chrome or firefox slow down on me. So I am thinking about doing a clean wipe of my ssd and my hdd and see if that fixes it.
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Everyone works their way around to a clean install eventually!
I used to tell people to start with doing that, as it ends up being the faster option after all the messing about, but then people always want to try every other possible option first. I've learned that it's best to let them come to that conclusion all on their own!
Good luck. Let us know if everything is ok afterwards.

this new samsung chromebook is looking awfully tempting

have you guys seen the new samsung chromebook?
its got that Exynos 5 5250 A15 chip, an above 720 screen, SSD, no moving parts so no need for a fan (wont suffocate sitting on your bed), 2GB ram, bluetooth, USB 3.0, HDMI, 6.5 hour battery life @4080MAh battery, only 11.6 inches, 2.5 pounds, and .8in thick. things stylish too. its like a netbook on crack.. its only 249, i cant see any reason you wouldnt buy it.. oh wait.. it only runs chrome OS..
well i dont think you can put windows on this thing. maybe linux, but id rather talk about actually keeping the chrome OS.
i have a few questions, if anyone who actually owns one could fill me in.
can you use torrents on a chromebook?
can you locally store pictures/movies/music on here?
if so, is there an offline video player? can it play all kinds of video formats?
if i plug in a flashdrive, can i move files around? is there a file manager in this thing?
can chrome os play minecraft?
can anyone who owns one tell me a little more about these little guys? thanks fellas
soraxd said:
have you guys seen the new samsung chromebook?
its got that Exynos 5 5250 A15 chip, an above 720 screen, SSD, no moving parts so no need for a fan (wont suffocate sitting on your bed), 2GB ram, bluetooth, USB 3.0, HDMI, 6.5 hour battery life @4080MAh battery, only 11.6 inches, 2.5 pounds, and .8in thick. things stylish too. its like a netbook on crack.. its only 249, i cant see any reason you wouldnt buy it.. oh wait.. it only runs chrome OS..
well i dont think you can put windows on this thing. maybe linux, but id rather talk about actually keeping the chrome OS.
i have a few questions, if anyone who actually owns one could fill me in.
can you use torrents on a chromebook?
can you locally store pictures/movies/music on here?
if so, is there an offline video player? can it play all kinds of video formats?
if i plug in a flashdrive, can i move files around? is there a file manager in this thing?
can chrome os play minecraft?
can anyone who owns one tell me a little more about these little guys? thanks fellas
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I own a cr-48.
You can locally store pictures and music (idk about movies, never tried). It does have some (limited) offline capabilities, like offline gmail, calendar, drive (read only IIRC). There is a file manager.
As for the rest of your questions...I have no idea, I have a real PC for all that crap.
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Two Linux distributions: openSUSE and Ubuntu have been already ported to the new Chromebook. You can't run Windows because it doesn't support ARM chips. Well Windows 8 RT supports but you need to be Microsoft's hardware partner for that.
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have you guys seen the new samsung chromebook?
its got that Exynos 5 5250 A15 chip, an above 720 screen, SSD, no moving parts so no need for a fan (wont suffocate sitting on your bed), 2GB ram, bluetooth, USB 3.0, HDMI, 6.5 hour battery life @4080MAh battery, only 11.6 inches, 2.5 pounds, and .8in thick. things stylish too. its like a netbook on crack.. its only 249, i cant see any reason you wouldnt buy it.. oh wait.. it only runs chrome OS..
well i dont think you can put windows on this thing. maybe linux, but id rather talk about actually keeping the chrome OS.
i have a few questions, if anyone who actually owns one could fill me in.
can you use torrents on a chromebook?
can you locally store pictures/movies/music on here?
if so, is there an offline video player? can it play all kinds of video formats?
if i plug in a flashdrive, can i move files around? is there a file manager in this thing?
can chrome os play minecraft?
can anyone who owns one tell me a little more about these little guys? thanks fellas
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Just purchased a Chromebook last night, have used it for probably 10 hours since and here's my rundown of it.
It is wonderfully fast, but what more can you expect from a linux system running an operating system based solely around the internet browser Chrome along with some perfectly functional "web apps". Now, by web apps I literally mean if you open an app on your taskbar at the bottom, it opens Chrome and goes to a website and performs as such. Think of it as a super fast epic computing system that works exactly as one would expect when Google presents an operating system.
IMO after 10 hours of use
Pros - Lightning fast, beautifully functional GUI; incredible and intuitive trackpad, takes 30 seconds to learn the strokes of it. there are no left and right buttons and it is a large pad (one finger click or tap selects, two finger click is a right click, click and hold with your forefinger and drag with your middle for selection and graphic movement, two finger drag to scroll down, up, left, or right. Its pretty awesome). Keyboard with separated keys so the lack of size is still spacious and not cluttered, because it isn't a windows keyboard there are no F1-F12 keys, windows keys, caps-lock, scroll-lock, delete, insert, pg up, pg dwn, so in short there is tons of saved space. MASSIVE selection of apps in general, like woah huge, and that's just the free ones. Once you link your google account to the pc you have over 160 gigs of storage on your google drive, as well as a 16 gb SSD that makes the performance kind of ridiculous, it boots in mere seconds, comes back from sleeping in the time it takes the monitor to come to life *which isn't long* and opens web pages faster than my PC. The wireless is a dual band (2.5 ghz and 5.0 ghz) b\g\n after a speed test it registered the peak speed of my connection through my Netgear N Dual band router. (30 meg down and 3.2 meg up, I have a screen shot, but I am a newb here so I cannot post it *which I understand not complaining just explaining* <3 ) The design is clean sleek, and odd. All the ports are in the back, which threw me back to old 2 inch think laptops, but it keeps the design very clean and easy to keep clean. lots of clean if you didn't notice the pattern. HDMI port, usb 3.0, usb 2.0. No fans, unless their silent, but I cannot hear ANYTHING its very quiet and manages to stay cool with no other visible ports other than the speakers. That's the odd part. It's really, wonderful. Oh, and I almost forgot (sorry I know this is going on forever I just wanted to make sure to be detailed) Chrome has a wonderful multi-device streamlined epic google machine. The Chrome that I use on my chromebook is the exact same browser that I'm using on my PC, other laptop, and HTC Evo3D. By that I mean same history *which isn't much because I'm usually incognito* same bookmarks, same apps.
The Perk about this is that it is a 100% fully functional and mobile device. It is ideal for businesses and students because it contains everything one needs to be productive and have fun in a VERY mobile device. It's the best new toy I've had for a while =)
Cons - Small, feels fragile. Some webpages have to be zoomed through the menu because the pages seem to be shrunk in some cases. Some apps available through the Chrome Web Store are not supported on the device yet, and without knowing until you install it, its a minor inconvenience. The customization is limited, its pretty much a what you see is what you get device. You can change the desktop background and the theme of Chrome but that's about it. There is no, like none at all, working and functional Spotify app for this, which is evil to me.
Overall 8 of 10, money well spent for sure.
Graphics - everything is low intensity for the most part so 8 of 10 cause its still crisp and beautiful, videos also look wonderful
Functionality - 10 out of 10. Period. Because Google.
Gaming - 2 of 10, that is not what this was built for, unless you like games on smartphone or flash than go for it.
Video - So far I've been able to play .mkv .avi and .mpeg4 videos fine. as for any other format I do not know. But with those three covered thats pretty much all of the digital movie formats. (I do not condone or endorse torrenting, and as far as I know it's not an option because you cannot INSTALL software, they are web based apps.)
Basically, as if I wasn't enough of one already Google has officially made me their fanboy, True story...
Yea, hope that helps. I know its lengthy but to me 249, is still 249. and therefore, well informed is better than going off of the very limited results on an actual review of this thing, I went and used it for about 20 minutes at best buy before I was too giddy to not own it. So yeah, my recommendation is get it, but only if you're not expecting a PC, cause that's NOT what this is.
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Edit : Battery is epic. 8 hours of battery life if you don't need your screen bright as the sun. 6 and a half on full brightness. (the eight hour estimate is based on the fact that I have had it unplugged and powered on for the better part of 5 hours and the estimated time on the battery right now is 3 hours 43 minutes. So yeah, epic.
Please use the existing computer thread for this type of discussion, thanks. Thread closed.

S4 = what level of PC or laptop?

Been meaning to ask this but keep forgetting. If the s4 were an actual full fledged computer, what would be the equivalent for a regular computer? I know it's way more powerful than a 486, but I'm just curious on what it might be. I remember the days when my 800mhz Intel, forgot if Pentium 2 or 3, used to take over 24 hours to encode a movie ripped from a DVD.
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Been meaning to ask this but keep forgetting. If the s4 were an actual full fledged computer, what would be the equivalent for a regular computer? I know it's way more powerful than a 486, but I'm just curious on what it might be. I remember the days when my 800mhz Intel, forgot if Pentium 2 or 3, used to take over 24 hours to encode a movie ripped from a DVD.
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Maybe the level of a mid-high end PC from 2007?
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Maybe the level of a mid-high end PC from 2007?
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Going by Geekbench, a low end Core 2 duo from July 2006.
http://ark.intel.com/products/27249
Both products get a geekbench score of ~3200. The Core 2 Duo would still be faster in single threaded tasks since it only needs 2 cores to get that score, while the galaxy needs 4 cores.
Very interesting. Thanks for the info.
Chromebook?
I was thinking the other day if it could run Office, a larger monitor, and connect to my scanner and NAS, it could replace my desktop.
But it can't, yet.
What's funny about it is that you'll have 100's of less problems on this phone that a 2006 PC.
thunng8 said:
Going by Geekbench, a low end Core 2 duo from July 2006.
http://ark.intel.com/products/27249
Both products get a geekbench score of ~3200. The Core 2 Duo would still be faster in single threaded tasks since it only needs 2 cores to get that score, while the galaxy needs 4 cores.
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Cool, Thx for digging that up. Have you found any GPU comparisons as well?
I wonder how long it'll take until a smartphone can play games like Tomb Raider or Crysis 3.
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Cool, Thx for digging that up. Have you found any GPU comparisons as well?
I wonder how long it'll take until a smartphone can play games like Tomb Raider or Crysis 3.
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In 4 years, +/- 1.
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It's hard to Guage because the architectures are entirely different.
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maxnix said:
Chromebook?
I was thinking the other day if it could run Office, a larger monitor, and connect to my scanner and NAS, it could replace my desktop.
But it can't, yet.
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Anyone attempt hooking up a USB device to see if it can be a USB host? Used for copying/moving files to/from flash drive?
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Anyone attempt hooking up a USB device to see if it can be a USB host? Used for copying/moving files to/from flash drive?
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I have an OTG cable and a 32 GB tumb drive.
I attached cable with the drive to my phone and it recognized it right away.
So I would say USB host works for flash drives at least.
Haven't try keyboard or mouse. Don't have them..
Cool beans agat. It didn't need an additional 5vdc from a hub to power the device? Thumb drives probably don't need much to get them running but anything more would I'd guess. Yeah man, I'm ripping DVDs on my phone with an external DVD drive and a hub. Lol.
probablly a high end pc from 2005-2006 times, and the processor still competes with some mid-high end processors now
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probablly a high end pc from 2005-2006 times, and the processor still competes with some mid-high end processors now
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not quite; these are different types of processors; modern ARM is not comparable to modern x86 RISC processors at all. ARM is best for low power situations, x86 is much better for performance overall.
Keep in mind you are comparing one ARM machine with NAND flash memory 'hard drive' against an x86 with a spinning platter disc; and two totally different instruction sets.
I would like to see what a GS4 running pure linux vs an old Athlon or Core 2 Quad running same Linux at 1.9Ghz with same performing 'hard drive'/memory would do, but ARM is not ready to replace x86. CPU speed isnt everything.
If i had to make a comparison, i would say its closer to my ancient Dell Inspiron 5150 underclocked. Low power mode at 1.7Ghz (hyperthreaded, max 3.06 Ghz), 32bit, 2GB RAM (albeit at 333Mhz), 1600x1200 display, and with a PATA SSD (transcend PSD320), in terms of raw power, but i havent any way to directly test executable vs executable yet. Laptop still runs btw, and i still use it.
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I have an OTG cable and a 32 GB tumb drive.
I attached cable with the drive to my phone and it recognized it right away.
So I would say USB host works for flash drives at least.
Haven't try keyboard or mouse. Don't have them..
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Which cable did you get? I might have to give it a try.
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crawrj said:
Which cable did you get? I might have to give it a try.
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I've got it about 1.5 years ago for my E4GT and still using it.
I remember I paid about 4.99 (free shipping) but don't remember which one.
It looks exactly like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Straight-Mi...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a8146ec28
But I can't guarantee it's the same one tho.
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I've got it about 1.5 years ago for my E4GT and still using it.
I remember I paid about 4.99 (free shipping) but don't remember which one.
It looks exactly like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Straight-Mi...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a8146ec28
But I can't guarantee it's the same one tho.
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Thanks man.
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Kino Console - Game streaming

Hey there, guys.
There is a new app for streaming games from your PC to your Tablet, not necessary the Shield and not necessary a tablet.
For those which can't stream games because don't own the required hardware, this is a pretty decent option. It is very responsive and detect your shield controller on the fly.
KinoConsole: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kinoni.console
Here is a small video i made using it:
The Pro version claims to bring better graphics, but in my opinion graphics are quite good on the free version already.
Alright... thread cleaned, right back to the start. Lets try having a constructive conversation, and not fighting each other, mmmk?
Hmmmmm. .. is any one getting that the pc install.exe is detected as a Trojan?
dbefore said:
Hmmmmm. .. is any one getting that the pc install.exe is detected as a Trojan?
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Take a look with an online scanner to see if it is not a false positive.
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Hmmmmm. .. is any one getting that the pc install.exe is detected as a Trojan?
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I get that sometimes with an install i know is safe. Just a false positive.
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It works great, even with bad network conditions. As far as it being detected as a trojan.... It basically is a trojan, Trojans tend to do the same thing internally as a remote desktop app. It doesn't seem to have malicious code though. Your antivirus is just detecting the code that allows remote access to your PC.
There is a cool game which is under development by now, you can try to play it on its website: http://becoming.at/ - Wingsuitflyer
The game runs over Unity app, but it works great with Kino console as well. The Shield controller is fully supported.
I just test Kino; and it works really good.
I'm very surprised of the result.
I've played Ryse, son of rome on it.
Works fine but...
... not as flawlessly as e.g. Nvidia Gamestream or Steam in Home Streaming.
It seems that fps is limited to a specific value (about 20 to 30fps). My Wlan connection is 300mbit 5 GHz and i tested it with my shield tablet close to the router (about 2 meters - PC is connected via LAN).
Can anyone tell me if the free Version of Kinoconsole has limited fps or streaming speed? Will buying the pro version solve this problem, or have you made same experience in comparison to NVIDIA Gamestream and Steam In-Home Streaming?
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Rainer
rain1337 said:
... not as flawlessly as e.g. Nvidia Gamestream or Steam in Home Streaming.
It seems that fps is limited to a specific value (about 20 to 30fps). My Wlan connection is 300mbit 5 GHz and i tested it with my shield tablet close to the router (about 2 meters - PC is connected via LAN).
Can anyone tell me if the free Version of Kinoconsole has limited fps or streaming speed? Will buying the pro version solve this problem, or have you made same experience in comparison to NVIDIA Gamestream and Steam In-Home Streaming?
Kind Regards
Rainer
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Excuse me. You use Steam In Home Streaming with the Shield Tablet?
EDIT: Tried the free version of Kino Console and it looks great, but Steam Big Picture mode, on my Z3 Compact shows no video, just audio
Has anyone had issues getting Kinoconsole to detect their computer recently? I'm having no luck over LTE, Wi-Fi, or Ethernet.
This was working beautifully for me about a month ago, but now has issues on my Shield Tablet LTE. Tried a variety of other devices without issue so I'm wondering if it's a device specific problem.
EDIT: Was able to work around this issue by manually entering the local LAN IP.
Anyone else having an issue with KinoConsole having no sound on the Nvidia Shield Portable? How can I fix this.
Kino looks interesting, I'm looking for an alternative streaming app. May give this a whirl later.
Hey,
I've a problem with kino console. I can connect to my pc and start my games, but my controller isn't working. Anyone else had a similar problem? Also the performance isn't that good (low fps). It also feels very strange that you have to run the games in windowed mode but I can live with that.
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Hey,
I've a problem with kino console. I can connect to my pc and start my games, but my controller isn't working. Anyone else had a similar problem? Also the performance isn't that good (low fps). It also feels very strange that you have to run the games in windowed mode but I can live with that.
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I also have the same issue I really wish it would just detect my controller input but no nothing at all on my Shield TV .
crowruin said:
I also have the same issue I really wish it would just detect my controller input but no nothing at all on my Shield TV .
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I just can tell my solution: I sold my AMD card and bought a Nvidia card.
Now I'm using GameStream or Moonlight and everything works fine.
pnn1 said:
I just can tell my solution: I sold my AMD card and bought a Nvidia card.
Now I'm using GameStream or Moonlight and everything works fine.
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yeah im also planning to do that as well gonna buy a MSI GTX 750 ti 2GB
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yeah im also planning to do that as well gonna buy a MSI GTX 750 ti 2GB
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Might as well look at the 950 now...
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An Droid said:
Might as well look at the 950 now...
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I have a pretty small case and I found this variant of the GTX 750 ti http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127836
the 950 looks too huge for my case... I want to be 100% sure that it will fit.

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