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ROOT! I thought MOTO was gonna unlock new phones

So i thought MOTO decided to unlock their new phones? Why is the 3 so F'N locked up???

Sorry MODS...i thought i was in general forum...could you please move?

I've got a dinc2 on the way for my wife and I'm really considering giving her my d3 and taking the dinc2. The really liking how sense 3.0 looks and the dinc2 just got unlocked and rooted.!
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suzook said:
Sorry MODS...i thought i was in general forum...could you please move?
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Haha, my heart skipped a few beats there when I read the title. Damn it

Moto shipped the D3 with a locked bootloader, but they will unlock later this year (supposedly).
Plus, per their quote from another Engadget article
We completely understand the operator requirement for security to the end user, and as well, want to support the developer communities desire to use these products as a development platform. It is our intention to enable the unlockable/relockable bootloader currently found on Motorola XOOM across our portfolio of devices starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it
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...starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it.
Motorola will make the first move with the bootloaders, then Verizon (or whoever else) will make theirs. Dunno how long between Motorola and us getting the unlock, but they can delay the process

Lol you got me there
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For the love of God, change the OP title.

I feel a little left out in the dark. Droid 3 has been out longer and it seems there has been literally zero movement on it. Sucks living in an area with the only available carriers being Verizon and AT&T.

haproot said:
I feel a little left out in the dark. Droid 3 has been out longer and it seems there has been literally zero movement on it. Sucks living in an area with the only available carriers being Verizon and AT&T.
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It's a locked bootloader running 2.3.4 which is extremely tough to crack. Plus you add in the fact that every single known exploit is blocked, that's the development delay.
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Moderators, please rename this thread, the subject is very misleading. OP doesn't seem to care.
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I doubt we'll see the bootloader unlocked. Look at HTC even. They've released their list of devices they'll be allowing the web-based unlock to happen with and it's over a dozen deep with not a single Verizon device on the list. It's Verizon that doesn't want us to have the unlock, not Motorola.

If Motorola really wanted us to have an unlock they would leak it. Maybe Googlorola will instead?
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Androidsims said:
If Motorola really wanted us to have an unlock they would leak it. Maybe Googlorola will instead?
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I prefer motoogle

elkay said:
I doubt we'll see the bootloader unlocked. Look at HTC even. They've released their list of devices they'll be allowing the web-based unlock to happen with and it's over a dozen deep with not a single Verizon device on the list. It's Verizon that doesn't want us to have the unlock, not Motorola.
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That sucks. I was worried that was the case and it most likely is. Anybody know if AT&T has anything that is unlockable? Its my only other choice for a carrier.
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Androidsims said:
If Motorola really wanted us to have an unlock they would leak it. Maybe Googlorola will instead?
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Motorola probably has a contract with Verizon that they will not unlock the phones without their permission first, which they would be breaching and surely be sued for if they simply just went ahead and did it.

haproot said:
That sucks. I was worried that was the case and it most likely is. Anybody know if AT&T has anything that is unlockable? Its my only other choice for a carrier.
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The Atrix bootloader can be unlocked. It might void some or all of your warranty, but it can be unlocked.

Please! Just got me for the second time.
leobg said:
Moderators, please rename this thread, the subject is very misleading. OP doesn't seem to care.
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dtdlurch said:
Please! Just got me for the second time.
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Try reading.. Only thing that needs to be changed is the exclamation point to a question mark and it couldn't get any clearer.

Viper ROM power settings

There any way to change the layout of the power bar in the Viper ROM?
(more specifically, disable the wifi tether icon)
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No
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Well that's dumb.. Any alternatives?
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Killer-B said:
No
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Actually, yes there is, and i've done it.
Disable (freeze) the wifi tether widget and it's gone.
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benmatlock said:
Well that's dumb.. Any alternatives?
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Become a dev yourself.
Look, the dev scene is just starting out. The phone hasn't even been out a month. Give it some damn time. There is no point in calling a devs work dumb just because it's missing one feature you would like to have. Especially this early in the game. They do this for free, they get nothing out of releasing their work, so you learn to code and add in the features you want, or suck it the **** up, cupcake.
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youkosnake said:
Become a dev yourself.
Look, the dev scene is just starting out. The phone hasn't even been out a month. Give it some damn time. There is no point in calling a devs work dumb just because it's missing one feature you would like to have. Especially this early in the game. They do this for free, they get nothing out of releasing their work, so you learn to code and add in the features you want, or suck it the **** up, cupcake.
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holy **** bro, chill the eff out, i did dig into it and find what I wanted, if you had read deeper down, you'd realize this.
Oh, and if I feel the need to learn the ins and outs of the application side of an os I can easily replace with linux, maybe i will become an android dev, but for now, i'll work on porting ubuntu to this phone,
Is that okay with you?
One more thing, when someone asks 'is this possible' and someone else says 'no' i take that as 'not yet'. I was basically saying 'that's dumb' to his response, not the fact that the app lacks functionality (which i understand will come in time, i develop bro, for posix based systems)

youkosnake said:
Become a dev yourself.
Look, the dev scene is just starting out. The phone hasn't even been out a month. Give it some damn time. There is no point in calling a devs work dumb just because it's missing one feature you would like to have. Especially this early in the game. They do this for free, they get nothing out of releasing their work, so you learn to code and add in the features you want, or suck it the **** up, cupcake.
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btw, you're very rude.

youkosnake said:
Look, the dev scene is just starting out.
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far from being correct by the way... the 'dev scene' has been around since punch cards and core memory.

What version of Viper are you on? I don't have the WiFi teather in any of my drop downs on 1.1.0. I only see it in my app drawer. It can grab it and place it in the home screens, but as a widget I done see it in any of the power controls or other multi system function toggle bars.
Like you mentioned I can freeze it from TB or simply uninstall it.
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Strangely enough after I installed the 1.1 it didn't come back
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Are you talking about EQS? If so, this might work for ViperRom since I believe EQS was ported from Torxx rom. Of course you would use files from viperrom not trickdroid
http://trickdroid.org/tutorial-how-to-modify-toggles-in-trickdroid-for-one/
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Wow still no root

I'm so surprised there's still no root for the ATT s5..im losing hope

Alternative: You can buy a T-Mobile S5, sim unlock and use on AT&T. T-Mo has unlocked bootloader...I did this and it works perfectly.

judicious said:
I'm so surprised there's still no root for the ATT s5..im losing hope
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it may take some time but it will get unlocked.

roughmouth said:
it may take some time but it will get unlocked.
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See people on the Galaxy S4 that are still looking for an exploit. It's highly unlikely bootloader unlock happens. Root is quite the long-shot as well.

judicious said:
I'm so surprised there's still no root for the ATT s5..im losing hope
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I wish there was a more active way to contribute despite having no developer background.
I know I'd be more than willing to do some seriously tedious code checking among other things if i knew it would help the cause.
Maybe buy some dynamite see if i can blow off the bootloader lock.. who knows?

Root will happen. It's not a matter of if, but when.

karmuh said:
Root will happen. It's not a matter of if, but when.
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Exactly.
Personally I went for the T-Mobile version and will unlock it to use it on AT&T.
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You can buy a T-Mobile S5, sim unlock and use on AT&T. T-Mo has unlocked bootloader...I did this and it works perfectly. also.

What are my choices if I bought the att s5 can I sell it for the same price as a t-mobile s5 and just buy one or should I try to get someone to trade with me?
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LeKtRiCzzz said:
What are my choices if I bought the att s5 can I sell it for the same price as a t-mobile s5 and just buy one or should I try to get someone to trade with me?
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The T-Mobile S5 is worth more because of the unlocked bootloader. You can sell the AT&T S5 for about $550 and get a mint T-Mobile S5 for the same price if you're lucky and negotiate on Swappa. Then you'll have to unlock it for about $30. Its all worth it in my opinion.
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The thing is the T-Mobile S5 will almost always show a full signal bar. When I had the TMO S5 it would show 4-5 bars with a -100-110 dbm signal. ATT signal is much stronger and therefore it will almost always show five bars with a -90, -80-dbm signal.

MattMJB0188 said:
The thing is the T-Mobile S5 will almost always show a full signal bar. When I had the TMO S5 it would show 4-5 bars with a -100-110 dbm signal. ATT signal is much stronger and therefore it will almost always show five bars with a -90, -80-dbm signal.
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Great..so like the thread states what update do you have about root?
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Martinjv71 said:
Great..so like the thread states what update do you have about root?
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Absolutely nothing. I personally don't think any developers even picked up the G900A because they knew it would be locked down. My advice: gt the TMO version and unlock it.

Lol
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Gotta love the doom and gloom. I would hate to see how some of you guys would act waiting nearly half a year for an iPhone jailbreak...every single year.

MattMJB0188 said:
Absolutely nothing. I personally don't think any developers even picked up the G900A because they knew it would be locked down. My advice: gt the TMO version and unlock it.
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Lol...TMO...Lol..I want a phone from a company that's going be around in 5 years.
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This phone will find root.
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karmuh said:
Gotta love the doom and gloom. I would hate to see how some of you guys would act waiting nearly half a year for an iPhone jailbreak...every single year.
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Been there, done that, many times haha.
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Lol...TMO...Lol..I want a phone from a company that's going be around in 5 years.
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I can see your point on this one. If the phone is unlocked then you'd be fine. You would be getting service with AT&T, not T-Mobile or Sprint lol.

What I'm kinda worried about is that the S5 becomes a phone with wasted potential kind of like the Optimus G was due to lack of root
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You can also buy a metropcs galaxy s5 its more cheaper than the tmobile version and unlock and also you can flash the T-Mobile stock Odin and flash T-Mobile custom ROM ...
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I have never understood the mentality of "just go buy it from another carrier." Some do not have $650 just laying around to make that happen. Another thing I don't seem to understand is all the dislike of subsidiaries. I have been with AT&T for over 10 years and never had an issue. My bill does not seem to be affected when I get an upgrade either, so I don't see the logic of paying full price for a phone from another carrier and remain on another one. It would seem like I am paying more out of pocket that way.

?Who? AT&T boot loader unlock

Who is working on the boot loader unlock for our variant of the s5? Is anyone?
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ConMcCRay said:
Who is working on the boot loader unlock for our variant of the s5? Is anyone?
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As far as I know no one, work on safe strap seems to have come to a stop as well so it doesn't look like we will be getting ROM slots working either att = suck

ConMcCRay said:
Who is working on the boot loader unlock for our variant of the s5? Is anyone?
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There may be someone working on it...but no need to talk about it till they have something concrete.
I have a feeling if the S5 is cracked it'll work on our Actives as well.
This is an awesome phone...I'm pretty satisfied with it and it can only be better. There's some amazing minds here...be patient.
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Nickovtyme said:
There may be someone working on it...but no need to talk about it till they have something concrete.
I have a feeling if the S5 is cracked it'll work on our Actives as well.
This is an awesome phone...I'm pretty satisfied with it and it can only be better. There's some amazing minds here...be patient.
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No need for a glimmer of hope to be spread. Better to have no hope and be impressed than have hope and be depressed, imo.

ConMcCRay said:
Who is working on the boot loader unlock for our variant of the s5? Is anyone?
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With a phone this popular, I can't imagine the bootloader will never be unlocked. Either Samsung will do so, or someone will fix it.

Not to be a doubter, but considering the S4 is reaching a year and a half without its bootloader being cracked put a damper on this one. Not sure if it has been improved more. I do believe it is being worked on. I hope that if one gets cracked the other will shortly thereafter.

CAG-man said:
Not to be a doubter, but considering the S4 is reaching a year and a half without its bootloader being cracked put a damper on this one. Not sure if it has been improved more. I do believe it is being worked on. I hope that if one gets cracked the other will shortly thereafter.
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An exploit was actually shown at Black Hat a few weeks ago showing a permanent bootloader unlock for the S4 and various other devices, but no S5

UnhoIy said:
An exploit was actually shown at Black Hat a few weeks ago showing a permanent bootloader unlock for the S4 and various other devices, but no S5
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It is still yet to be accomplished on the S4 (I am aware a demonstration was made). It should theoretically work on the S5 as well since it is nearly identical to the S5 in internals. (Those who want to disagree, go ahead. It is just my opinion that they are nearly identical). The exploit was for the particular setup in Snapdragon devices if I recall correctly, which that setup is present in the AT&T S5.
While the devices listed are unpatched and devices like the S5 are patched, it is my opinion that one can always pull back a patch for a problem. We see it all the time with Root. I'm just not talented enough to know how to do that level of work.

This phone is too good to not have root!!!

We need root on this phone. hopefully someone will be able to succeed on getting root soon!

lucky_strike33 said:
We need root on this phone. hopefully someone will be able to succeed on getting root soon!
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Hopefully

So what is the hold up. Is it just the Verizon variant that is lacking root? I thought the other variants had root? Not one post in the development sections. Weird.

jasonbiggs said:
So what is the hold up. Is it just the Verizon variant that is lacking root? I thought the other variants had root? Not one post in the development sections. Weird.
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Verizon and AT&T don't have root. All others do
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jasonbiggs said:
So what is the hold up. Is it just the Verizon variant that is lacking root? I thought the other variants had root? Not one post in the development sections. Weird.
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Nothing posted in the DEV section yet because we don't have root, and as far as I know there hasn't been a VZW Dev edition released yet (and I'm doubting there will be with the production issues they've had getting the regular GS6E's out).
Trust me, we all (or mostly all?) want root, but we have to be patient - i'd be blown away if we got a root solution before the Note 4.

What I thought of course. But there should at least be a post or two saying: hey, I'm so and so dev. Im working on root. Will post back in a few days when completed. Lol

When you root your device, the integrity gets breached, which is necessary for important and sensitive features like mobile payments. :good:

devguruXochitl said:
When you root your device, the integrity gets breached, which is necessary for important and sensitive features like mobile payments. :good:
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Who cares. Don't even use the features.
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lucky_strike33 said:
Who cares. Don't even use the features.
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At&t and Verizon cares.

Capt said:
At&t and Verizon cares.
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if you care why read root threads on xda?
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Well if those so called "caring" companies would give us customers a little bit more control of our phones to get rid of some of their crapware, etc., then I would be all for it but they keep the lock on too tight as far as I'm concerned.

jasonbiggs said:
What I thought of course. But there should at least be a post or two saying: hey, I'm so and so dev. Im working on root. Will post back in a few days when completed. Lol
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i lold at this post.. you dont just have a new device come out and a dev say it will take him a few days... the note 4 has been out for many months now and is still not rooted.. if you want to know where devs are at check those threads because they are working on rooting that device currently..
there is i believe only one L exploit that would not help in gettimg root available right now so until more exploits are found we dont stand a chance with root
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I'm not holding my breathe on root for this phone I don't see it happening any time soon

XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
I'm not holding my breathe on root for this phone I don't see it happening any time soon
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You don't read the right threads then.
http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q2/333

I came off a RAZR HD MAXX, and have always had Moto phones (this is my first non-moto phone), but I read in at least 2 places that root cannot be had on this phone because verizon and AT&T have locked bootloaders. Now, Im not sure what the boot loader has to do with getting root, because with my Motos I always rooted before unlocking the BL (on the phones I had that UL the BL was an option), but it just doesnt sound right.
I dont think I want to use custom ROMs any longer, I just want to use root apps. Really hoping someone finds an exploit for it.

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You don't read the right threads then.
http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q2/333
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awesome find. now this is for the note 4 kit kat right?

lucky_strike33 said:
awesome find. now this is for the note 4 kit kat right?
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I believe it is for all kernels up to May 2015.
It has been tested on the S6, and should work for any phone with a vulnerable kernel.
It should result in a root tool similar to towelroot.

jlang11 said:
I came off a RAZR HD MAXX, and have always had Moto phones (this is my first non-moto phone), but I read in at least 2 places that root cannot be had on this phone because verizon and AT&T have locked bootloaders. Now, Im not sure what the boot loader has to do with getting root, because with my Motos I always rooted before unlocking the BL (on the phones I had that UL the BL was an option), but it just doesnt sound right.
I dont think I want to use custom ROMs any longer, I just want to use root apps. Really hoping someone finds an exploit for it.
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You havent been on my roms then .. Its a stripped down bare bone stock rom with slight tweaks/mods.. i did try theming before but with theme engine now its pointless to theme it now..
My rom is the Extreme Syndicate rom in the Verizon S5 thread.. will develop for the verizon gs6 edge when possible and most likely make some buids for att s6 edge as well
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elliwigy said:
You havent been on my roms then .. Its a stripped down bare bone stock rom with slight tweaks/mods.. i did try theming before but with theme engine now its pointless to theme it now..
My rom is the Extreme Syndicate rom in the Verizon S5 thread.. will develop for the verizon gs6 edge when possible and most likely make some buids for att s6 edge as well
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I cant wait to have this

psufan5 said:
I cant wait to have this
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in the root thread the dev is saying theyre having some issues with the edge due to qc hardware we that means
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