[Q] Launch phrase then long delay of listening - Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh

So I love using my launch phrase. And the percentage of 'correctness' is amazing. But whenever I do it anywhere except somewhere that's dead silent, it just keeps listening. For like...30 seconds. Even if I said two words. I find this quite annoying. Any fix for this? Anyone else experiencing this?

smokeydriver said:
So I love using my launch phrase. And the percentage of 'correctness' is amazing. But whenever I do it anywhere except somewhere that's dead silent, it just keeps listening. For like...30 seconds. Even if I said two words. I find this quite annoying. Any fix for this? Anyone else experiencing this?
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This is because the phone is still listening for the sounds around you, it doesn't differentiate between a dog or your voice, it just hears sounds, so as long as they environment is noisy, the voice commands wouldn't work properly.
There is no fix for this because it's not a bug, it works as intended but if any other sources are making noises, the phone won't distinguish your voice properly; the only thing you can do is to speak louder or try to be close to your phone when using your voice.
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Galaxo60 said:
This is because the phone is still listening for the sounds around you, it doesn't differentiate between a dog or your voice, it just hears sounds, so as long as they environment is noisy, the voice commands wouldn't work properly.
There is no fix for this because it's not a bug, it works as intended but if any other sources are making noises, the phone won't distinguish your voice properly; the only thing you can do is to speak louder or try to be close to your phone when using your voice.
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I understand exactly what you are saying. But, on my old GNex (and on this phone) if I use Google's voice detection services it works without these incredibly long delays. The only reason i prefer this service is that this service reacts to my command without having to touch my phone first.

smokeydriver said:
I understand exactly what you are saying. But, on my old GNex (and on this phone) if I use Google's voice detection services it works without these incredibly long delays. The only reason i prefer this service is that this service reacts to my command without having to touch my phone first.
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I think this is the most interesting thing, of course Google has many advantages with its own implementation, but the fact to have the always listening function on the phone is priceless.

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When calling, people dont hear my voice

I've seen people complain of similar issues, but no solutions when searching. Regardless of if I call them, or I'm the one being called 30-50% of the time they won't be able to hear my voice. It's been consistent regardless of ROM (Stock, Cyan, Enom).
It may be a hardware defect (I had one of the earlier phones) but programs such as Shazam and Hertz, which use the mic to collect nearby sounds, work flawlessly and 100% of the time.
Has there been a proposed solution to this problem?
are you accidentally pressing the mute button?
No, mute's not pressed when I look at the screen and nothing changes if I toggle mute on/off.
Are you running a non-stock kernel?
This is also a new google feature. If your voice is that bad sounding, the nexus one cancels the other person from hearing it. This also happend to one of my friends that sounds like hes high half the time.
lol, harsh.
i've had the same problem before on cyan and today again for the first time on enom.
rebooting normally fixes it but i have no idea what causes it.
Do you use a task killer? I think this may have something to do with it, killing an app that phone calls require but I guess it would have the smarts to re-open it if it actually required it.
Same thing happens to me- I would shift position and move my hand and it will start working again. Super annoying.... i returned my phone and got a new one, and it is still happening. Arghhhh

Can't hear other party while talking

I have a "stock" LG Optimus 2x (haven't gotten around to modding it yet).
My problem is that while I talk on the phone, the other person's voice gets suppressed. I hear them fine while I'm silent but as soon as I say a word, their voice goes down and I can barely make out a whisper. After I go silent they remain squelched for about 1/2 second before the volume returns to normal. This makes it very difficult to have a conversation.
Is this the normal behavior for this phone? If not, any idea if this might be a sw/hw/carrier issue?
Thanks for the input.
Pretty sure it's not normal no, I've never noticed it. Sounds like the old single duplex way of doing things.
My thoughts too. I'm thinking maybe it's an echo-cancellation algorithm gone wrong...

Problems with touchless, (Google Now)

Has anyone experienced any issues with touchless controls? ie "Ok Google Now"
Seems my phone is cursed. While sitting on the table tonight it I said something to my wife which sounded nothing remotely like "Ok, Google Now" and it decided to call a very work sensitive number. Luckily I caught it before anything happened. This has been happening a lot lately and will trigger without any audio cues at all. Is it just me or has anyone else had issues?
I've also noticed mines randomly turning on touchless controls. I haven't had it actually prompt any commands but usually it will happen when my phone is in my pocket and then I'll hear the notification sound when touchless controls turns on. I noticed it only happens if there's a lot of noise around me, usually if there's people talking. I've even had it happen to me while I was driving and my radio was on kind of loud and I wasn't even talking. I'm also worried that it'll call someone without me knowing but luckily it hasn't happened. And I also agree with you that even though nothing close to the words "OK Google Now" were said, that it still turns on touchless controls. Hopefully it can be fixed in a future update.
Ok, good. At least I know I'm not going crazy. Two of my contacts are a hospital ER and a 911 call center. They're the last people I want to be calling because my phone is acting up.
One thing you can do is enable the "confirm before call" option. Then if it does decide to go a little crazy it shouldn't actually call unless someone says something that sounds like "call".
Steve-x said:
One thing you can do is enable the "confirm before call" option. Then if it does decide to go a little crazy it shouldn't actually call unless someone says something that sounds like "call".
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If I reenable voiceless I'll definitely do that. ThanX!
You could try to retrain the controls via the settings menu
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ForSquirel said:
Has anyone experienced any issues with touchless controls? ie "Ok Google Now"
Seems my phone is cursed. While sitting on the table tonight it I said something to my wife which sounded nothing remotely like "Ok, Google Now" and it decided to call a very work sensitive number. Luckily I caught it before anything happened. This has been happening a lot lately and will trigger without any audio cues at all. Is it just me or has anyone else had issues?
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I've experienced this, too, but not to the degree you've described. While watching TV my phone would activate Google Now in response to something it heard from the TV. Having retraining the touchless control phrase, that hasn't happened since (fingers crossed). I've never had the phone activate without any audio cues.
My wife had something of the opposite problem: her Moto X insisted that she use a perky, upbeat voice or it wouldn't listen to her. Retraining has dealt with that issue, too.
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CMNDR said:
You could try to retrain the controls via the settings menu
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I've retrained it a few times. That's not really the issue. I can be in a quiet, dark room, typing at the keyboard and it will suddenly kick on saying it didn't understand what I said. A lot of times it's 'come alive' while in my pocket. If it weren't for the tell tell ding I probably wouldn't have noticed.
Yeah mine does it too. During movies, people talking. Its great.
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Mine was also doing this really frequently. I initially trained and retrained it in my house which has stone floors and echoes like crazy.
After training it in my car which has really dead acoustics it seems to have stopped doing it.
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Scotlac said:
Mine was also doing this really frequently. I initially trained and retrained it in my house which has stone floors and echoes like crazy.
After training it in my car which has really dead acoustics it seems to have stopped doing it.
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Just went in the closet and retrained. No echo. We'll see if this helps.
mta: Since retraining the catchphrase I haven't had 1 misfire. Seems that any extra noise when training will completely throw this thing off kilter.

Toothless control

I just recently bought a brand new moto x off contract. Great phone. This should've been the nexus 5. Anyway, I am having a problem with touchless control. Whenever I wake it up by, ok Google now, and hit the back to cancel. It makes the usual sound but with static. I uninstalled the updates since I can't delete it and downloaded it again. It fixed it. I noticed that with just Google search by tapping and canceling the mic, it doesn't give me this problem. Anyone else have this?
Techno Droid said:
I just recently bought a brand new moto x off contract. Great phone. This should've been the nexus 5. Anyway, I am having a problem with touchless control. Whenever I wake it up by, ok Google now, and hit the back to cancel. It makes the usual sound but with static. I uninstalled the updates since I can't delete it and downloaded it again. It fixed it. I noticed that with just Google search by tapping and canceling the mic, it doesn't give me this problem. Anyone else have this?
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Don't have that kind of problem. But I've noticed something else: the voice recognition is way too sensitive. Not only that I don't have to say "Ok Google Now" - OK is enough, but sometimes it reacts to my other words too.
piskr said:
Don't have that kind of problem. But I've noticed something else: the voice recognition is way too sensitive. Not only that I don't have to say "Ok Google Now" - OK is enough, but sometimes it reacts to my other words too.
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I also had this problem, but with time, its less and less often. But if you've setup your voice recognition some time ago, you should try it again and wait a couple of weeks to see if the problem is solved.
Never had any static though. Do you have any third party equalizer of something like that? Also check if you have any open background app that can interfere with your audio.
Wow didn't realize topic title till now. Toothless. Lol. Auto correct. The voice recognition is very sensitive. Activated by others talking in public.
Techno Droid said:
Wow didn't realize topic title till now. Toothless. Lol. Auto correct. The voice recognition is very sensitive. Activated by others talking in public.
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Yeah, I was wondering about the 'toothless'
I had a similar issue: Touchless control was activating on ambient noise, or even a loud TV. The key was to re-train the launch phrase in a VERY quiet room. My friend trained his X and there was a barking dog next door while he did it. It activated all-the-time, seemingly out of nowhere.
Once we re-trained carefully, in an extremely quiet environment, it no longer activates un-intentionally.
You might give this a shot! To Re-Train, go to Settings > Touchless Control

[Q] Does moto voice work good in the car? windows down?

anyone able to fully test the turbo and moto voice in a car environment please? maybe with windows open also.
i would like to confirm if the turbo can handle all the touchless functions while the car has the windows open.
On the note3, it is unable to differentiate voice from car engine/wind noise and thus continues to listen until it times out and thus recognises nothing useful at all., totally useless in the car.
Im hoping the turbo mics are able to block out the wind and engine noise and such.
if it all works, im hoping to root the phone and add custom commands so nearly everything can be performed without touching the phone.
I'll give moto voice a few stress tests. I'll post back with results.
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For me.. Moto voice has a tendency to pick up road sound....I'll be done talking and it'll keep listening..Microphone seems uber sensitive..
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ccheww said:
I'll give moto voice a few stress tests. I'll post back with results.
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nice thanks. its one of the main reasons to moving over to a turbo from a note3, for me anyways.
dano1282 said:
For me.. Moto voice has a tendency to pick up road sound....I'll be done talking and it'll keep listening..Microphone seems uber sensitive..
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Really? cos thats what my note3 in doing now, makes the google now voice service useless unless your in a car that is silent.
So, Is this with the windows down? so it cant separate wind noise or car engine noise?
Windows up or down.. doesn't make a difference..
thats a shame, hopefully someone finds a work around.. thx!
sonhy said:
thats a shame, hopefully someone finds a work around.. thx!
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I'll report some better findings. I use Moto voice in my car all the time for placing phone calls and short text messages. I also use the voice recognition of Swype for longer texts/email replies.
Generally I'm in a Mazda 3 which is a bit quieter than the cargo van i also drive. In the car with the windows up, it always recognizes the wake up phrase and as long as there isn't a commercial vehicle next to me, it also recognizes my commands. When Moto voice doesn't recognize the commands, it punts the voice data over to Google Now which can usually finish the job. In the cargo van, i usually have to loudly speak the wake up phrase, and it almost always needs Google Now to finish the task.
I find the voice controls and recognition much better than on S4/5 and can easily use it without worry or frustration in a car.
Got my turbo on Sunday. I picked it over a note 4 because of the touch less control. After spending a few days with it and constantly trying to use the touch less feature. I must say it sucks. Its pretty good at picking up the wake line. But after that its a hit or miss. I have to turn off my radio every time when I have to use touch less because it won't stop listen with the ratio running. Overall I don't think the touch less control is ready for prime. I'm at the verge of turning this feature off completely.
phibo said:
Got my turbo on Sunday. I picked it over a note 4 because of the touch less control. After spending a few days with it and constantly trying to use the touch less feature. I must say it sucks. Its pretty good at picking up the wake line. But after that its a hit or miss. I have to turn off my radio every time when I have to use touch less because it won't stop listen with the ratio running. Overall I don't think the touch less control is ready for prime. I'm at the verge of turning this feature off completely.
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I wouldn't expect it to work with the radio on, it is listening for human voice after all. Once you unlock it, any words (yours, your passenger, or the radio) start to get analyzed. It does ignore music without lyrics and auto noise.
I've had really good experiences with the voice. Of course it will pick up the radio. It's kind of silly to think it could pick out your voice from all kinds of ambient noise. I usually just kill/mute the radio while I use the voice. It's only for a few seconds anyways.
If there is a lot of road noise or there is a strong crosswind that I can hear in the cabin of the car, Moto Voice will tell me it's a little noisy and I will need to speak up. But as long as I speak a little louder and clearer, it works really well. I just need to get another car dock that fits the Turbo. My old Moto X dock is too small.
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Thanks for the replies everyone, now im back on the fence again
i do know the the tubro wouldnt have the ability to isolate different voices so definitely would lower/ mute the radio.
If voice control is something you REALLY want, I can say that my Moto 360 lets me voice control my Turbo while in my Mazda Miata, with the top down, at 75 mph.
Since this topic is in the "accessories" category, I figured I could mention this!

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