About to order; sanity check my order please? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6

I'm about to order the following two things from Handtec to ship to the US:
http://www.handtec.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s6-64gb-black-sapphire.html
http://www.handtec.co.uk/handtec-samsung-region-unlock-service.html
Out of the box, can I immediately:
use it on AT&T in the US with LTE support?
use it on T-Mobile in the US with LTE support? (I intend to switch in the coming months)
flash custom ROMs? (is it bootloader unlocked?)
root it? (seems like a pretty confident yes, but I'll still ask)
I don't want any unexpected additional steps I need to take in order to do the things listed above. Am I good to go?
Also, if I see defect(s), such as scratches on the underside of the glass that I've read about, how good is Handtec's customer support for me to return for a new one?
From what I've read in other threads, most posts seem to indicate that what I'm ordering will be fine for me, but I'd like a sanity check on my scenario. Thanks!

palmboy5 said:
I'm about to order the following two things from Handtec to ship to the US:
http://www.handtec.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s6-64gb-black-sapphire.html
http://www.handtec.co.uk/handtec-samsung-region-unlock-service.html
Out of the box, can I immediately:
use it on AT&T in the US with LTE support? yes
use it on T-Mobile in the US with LTE support? (I intend to switch in the coming months) I think so
flash custom ROMs? (is it bootloader unlocked?) after you root and install a custom recovery
root it? (seems like a pretty confident yes, but I'll still ask) yes
I don't want any unexpected additional steps I need to take in order to do the things listed above. Am I good to go? yes
Also, if I see defect(s), such as scratches on the underside of the glass that I've read about, how good is Handtec's customer support for me to return for a new one? dont know (just make sure you use a good credit card not a debit card so that you can dispute it with your credit card if you experience issues. us an America Express or Mastercard if you have them.)
From what I've read in other threads, most posts seem to indicate that what I'm ordering will be fine for me, but I'd like a sanity check on my scenario. Thanks!
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Good luck bro!

jimmiekain said:
Good luck bro!
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Thanks for your input!
Unfortunately, they don't take American Express and my Visa rejected the transaction (a random overseas order probably being a red flag).
Sooo, I ended up paying with PayPal... Oh well, just going to hope for the best.

palmboy5 said:
Thanks for your input!
Unfortunately, they don't take American Express and my Visa rejected the transaction (a random overseas order probably being a red flag).
Sooo, I ended up paying with PayPal... Oh well, just going to hope for the best. [emoji14]
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Did your phone come yet? Do you like it?

Nope >_>
I ordered it while it said "DUE IN SOON" (ie. not in stock) and they were courteous enough to tell me this on Tuesday:
We are contacting you with regards to your recent order. We would just like to make you aware that the ‘Samsung Galaxy S6 64GB - Black Sapphire’ you have purchased is only available for pre-order at this time.
As soon as the item becomes available we will dispatch your order and send you tracking information immediately.
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I asked for an estimate on how long it'll be until the order ships and they said:
I would like to inform you that we are expecting 'Samsung Galaxy S6 64GB - Black Sapphire' to arrive in stock this week and soon as it arrives we will start dispatching all the pre-orders.
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But it has yet to come back in stock. Just waiting patiently at this point.

It has shipped! Also, I remade the order to get the white one instead of black, FYI. I figure the white one will get less hot while in my car dock under the sun.
According to the tracking, I'll get it tomorrow morning.

Tested with colleague's AT&T nano SIM card and it worked fine. Don't know if it connected as LTE though, does "4G" on the status bar equate to LTE or just HSPA? I was going to just do a speed test to know that way but he didn't want to use his data.
My SIM is still micro size so I can't test this myself yet.

It definitely can do T-Mobile LTE, I got 56mbps down and 23.79mbps up.
It's AT&T that I'm less sure of because I only get 15 down and 5 up. It probably is LTE though, and AT&T just sucks. Can't wait to switch to T-Mobile!

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Unlocked Tytn II for Sale with Accessories $200

I have an unlocked TytnII for sale. It is in great shape but does seem to have the backlight bug. I have always managed it with S2U2. Great for anyone who loves flashing or cooking. I moved on to the touch pro so this needs a new home.
Includes box-wall charger-usb cable-extra battery-wall/usb charger for battery-seidio holster-seidio innocase
Accessories alone are worth it! $200 plus shipping.
Sorry....that is $200US + shipping. I am in Arizona and would prefer shipping to the US as shipping international is cost prohibitive. However if you want to pick up the cost of international shipping we can discuss!
Let me know,
Josh
griffin911
Is there only one country with $
griffin911 said:
$200 plus shipping.
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Would that be 200 New Zealand Dollars? It would help your chances of selling it if you tell us where you are (and complete your forum profile for country/network while you're at it). Different countries have different wall jacks/mains voltages and network types. It's essential info missing off your ad.
Flying Kiwi said:
Would that be 200 New Zealand Dollars? It would help your chances of selling it if you tell us where you are (and complete your forum profile for country/network while you're at it). Different countries have different wall jacks/mains voltages and network types. It's essential info missing off your ad.
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Changes made.............I have been properly chastised!
as promised
there you go
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there you go
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Thank you Mod
My Tilt just broke a few days ago, and I sent for a replacement screen. if for some reason I can't get it fixed I'll be looking at a replacement phone within the week. If you don't have it sold by then I may be interested.
Thanks and sorry for having a go at you!
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Changes made.............I have been properly chastised!
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Thanks. It does annoy me when people (any people) assume everyone knows where they are so sorry for having a go at you! This forum would be a better place if everyone filled in their country, network and general region for others to see. If everyone showed that info, we could see just how diverse the XDA-DEV community really is!
asrrin29 said:
My Tilt just broke a few days ago, and I sent for a replacement screen. if for some reason I can't get it fixed I'll be looking at a replacement phone within the week. If you don't have it sold by then I may be interested.
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Asrrin29......let me know!
Luckily for me (and unfortunately for you), 3 hours of work later and three trips to the hardware store for tools I got my Tilt working like brand new. It sure sucks that you have to dissemble the entire damn thing just to get at the screen though, heh. I'll mention your tilt to anyone I know who might be interested, but I'm sorry for getting your hopes up.
asrrin29 said:
Luckily for me (and unfortunately for you), 3 hours of work later and three trips to the hardware store for tools I got my Tilt working like brand new. It sure sucks that you have to dissemble the entire damn thing just to get at the screen though, heh. I'll mention your tilt to anyone I know who might be interested, but I'm sorry for getting your hopes up.
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Good to hears yours is working...Let me know if you hear anything.
Thanks
You Kaiser has Front camera?, can you upload any picture of it?
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You Kaiser has Front camera?, can you upload any picture of it?
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The kaiser also still has a screen protector on that it has had on since day one!
Sold!
Mods feel free to close thread.

ATT S6 edge screen is scratched/swirled out of the box.

edit: Story of my process last night.
So I got my phone in the morning, and opened it up to find the screen was swirled and scratched and looked really bad in any light. Luckily my mom preordered the S6 (I have the S6 Edge) so I went over to her house to compare phones or to see if she had any scratches on hers. Her phone was absolutely perfect and was a good side by side of what my phone should have looked like. So I went into the AT&T store to activate and talk about getting a replacement or something.
I told AT&T about my concerns about the swirling and scratching and the worker that was helping me looked at it and then tried to justify it. He told me that it looked like a "geometric pattern" so clearly it wasn't from shipping and it was clearly from manufacturing. I think he was trying to comment on the concentric circling of the scratches, so I got what he was saying, but regardless of where the damage came from I felt like they should be responsible for it since they are the ones selling the phone.
Well, I asked what my options are. He told me that I couldn't activate the phone because then I wouldn't be able to return it to an AT&T store to get it replaced. He then told me that it was Samsungs problem and that I should contact their support to get it fixed, since it was a preorder he claimed the phone came straight from Samsung and not AT&T so they aren't responsible. A manager walked over to see how everything was going and when I mentioned my issues, he basically just told me that it sucked. He then walked away. On my way out I told another manager (I am assuming they were both managers. They had dress coats on that said Manager and had the AT&T logo on it.) The other manager said basically the same thing.... "Bummer." And that was it. I walked out with no options from AT&T.
I contacted Samsung and their support told me that I need to talk to AT&T about it since Samsung only manufactures the phones and AT&T sells them, so it's AT&Ts problem since they are the ones actually selling the device. So I got the official run around.
My only bet is to go back to AT&T on the 10th... which I'm supposed to be out of town, so I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
Going to try to contact AT&T today and see what they say.
Like T-Mobile people were complaining about, the screen is swirled straight out of the box. It looks really bad.
I can try and get pictures if people want. Just figured I'd get a thread started to see if anyone else has the problem.
Edit: Picture here. I'll take more tonight.
http://imgur.com/HEyLpUa
Some closeup pictures please. I was checking with someone else on other thread who received his AT&T device. No scratches on his. And maybe you should update the existing scratches thread.
yoman258 said:
Like T-Mobile people were complaining about, the screen is swirled straight out of the box. It looks really bad.
I can try and get pictures if people want. Just figured I'd get a thread started to see if anyone else has the problem.
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Place of manufacturing? Vietnam?
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I tried getting a picture, but I only have my phone and it won't focus on the screen.
Um, I'm not sure the place of manufacture, I'd assume vietnam.
I went to the att store and they basically said I have to talk to samsung about it.
yoman258 said:
I tried getting a picture, but I only have my phone and it won't focus on the screen.
Um, I'm not sure the place of manufacture, I'd assume vietnam.
I went to the att store and they basically said I have to talk to samsung about it.
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Yeah, F that. They sold you the scratched up device and now they don't want to take responsibility for it.
Welp... it continues. Guess I'll call AT&T while I'm opening mine tomorrow just to make sure I have a replacement on the way before I even have time to be disappointed lol.
gravi2 said:
Some closeup pictures please. I was checking with someone else on other thread who received his AT&T device. No scratches on his. And maybe you should update the existing scratches thread.
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http://imgur.com/HEyLpUa
That's all I could get with just my cell phone, I will take some better pictures tonight when I get home.
Is it the same swirly pattern? I can semi see it.
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Jooosty said:
Is it the same swirly pattern? I can semi see it.
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It's the same exact swirl pattern that people on the T-Mobile forums are talking about. It looks like an old cars paint in the sun.
Sorry to see you have this problem. Both the phones that I've received, mine and my girlfriend's, seem to be scratch free. I tried to scrutinize with the brightest light I could find, the sun etc, but I couldn't see a blemish. The battery life is crap, but that's another story.
Hope you get this resolved.
ForgottenGuardian said:
Sorry to see you have this problem. Both the phones that I've received, mine and my girlfriend's, seem to be scratch free. I tried to scrutinize with the brightest light I could find, the sun etc, but I couldn't see a blemish. The battery life is crap, but that's another story.
Hope you get this resolved.
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I just want to use the phone. I was so excited to use it, but I can't activate it because then AT&T apparently won't let me exchange it...
I wouldn't mind the scratches if I was allowed to use the phone until a new, scratch free one got here... but whatever. Stuck with my S4 while everyone else gets to enjoy their new stuff.
In all honesty man, I'd try another ATT store. I think they are just trying to shirk responsibility. Or call them and have them overnight you one. It is their product, their responsibility.
ForgottenGuardian said:
In all honesty man, I'd try another ATT store. I think they are just trying to shirk responsibility. Or call them and have them overnight you one. It is their product, their responsibility.
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Yeah, talking with AT&T support now.
Is anyone getting Edge's that aren't scratched?
My 128gb Black Sapphire Edge should be here tomorrow. Think I'll be taking it to my local AT&T next to my work to unbox it so there is no discrepancies incase the display is scratched.
fsupartyboy850 said:
My 128gb Black Sapphire Edge should be here tomorrow. Think I'll be taking it to my local AT&T next to my work to unbox it so there is no discrepancies incase the display is scratched.
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I called ATT support and they are sending me a new one out.
Sucks because I got the phone on Monday, but I probably won't get to actually use one until the end of the week. Which is fine, just excited.
However, I am going to assume this new one getting sent out is going to be scratched too.
The 128GB models have been fine I think, mostly 32GB models are scratched. Which makes me feel dumb for buying the 32GB model now... Should have just gotten the bigger version.
I used to work in an AT&T store, basically replacing the phones in store is the managers discretion and they never want that on their audit because it somehow looks bad for them, or at least that is the impression our manager gave us. So our store handled those situations the same way, we just kind of keep passing off the blame and hope it will carry the customer out of the store (no longer our problem).
The only way to get something done through AT&T is to call into support as you did, sometimes support will even notate on the account that the store has to replace the device. This kind of forces the store to do so, because there is a trail and the regional manager would get pissed when they discover the store keeps passing off issues. We had a customer do that once and our manager still refused to replace it, so the customer kept calling into support until the regional manager was notified and took a look at the account and then they see notes for weeks that the customer has attempted going into a store for help and been fighting with the store manager.
yoman258 said:
The 128GB models have been fine I think, mostly 32GB models are scratched. Which makes me feel dumb for buying the 32GB model now... Should have just gotten the bigger version.
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How sure are you about this?
The reason I ask is that I hadn't really noticed many people posting which specific model they had that was scratched, but there could be some credibility to it, and a bit of shady dealings on Samsung's part if this is actually the case.
Should have my 128GB in a few hours here.
fsupartyboy850 said:
My 128gb Black Sapphire Edge should be here tomorrow. Think I'll be taking it to my local AT&T next to my work to unbox it so there is no discrepancies incase the display is scratched.
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Poetique said:
How sure are you about this?
The reason I ask is that I hadn't really noticed many people posting which specific model they had that was scratched, but there could be some credibility to it, and a bit of shady dealings on Samsung's part if this is actually the case.
Should have my 128GB in a few hours here.
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I've only seen maybe one person complain about 128GB version, everyone else with 128GB versions have been fine.
However, everyone with 32GB versions seem to be having the issue. It could be coincidence and have to do with popularity of the 32GB over the 128GB.
yoman258 said:
I called ATT support and they are sending me a new one out.
Sucks because I got the phone on Monday, but I probably won't get to actually use one until the end of the week. Which is fine, just excited.
However, I am going to assume this new one getting sent out is going to be scratched too.
The 128GB models have been fine I think, mostly 32GB models are scratched. Which makes me feel dumb for buying the 32GB model now... Should have just gotten the bigger version.
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So exactly how'd this process go for you?
They gave me so much run around I've got half a mind to go to every AT&T store I can just to curse out random employees until I feel better.
The short of the line of crap they gave me is that the shipper (FedEx) is to blame and that a case will have to be opened with them before -anything- else occurs. This of course leaves me with no device until they and FedEx discuss whatever they need to in order to deal with this bullcrap.
What I'm going to do for now is see if I can wait until the local retail store gets their units in to just do an exchange. If that doesn't work, I don't know... maybe I'll be an ass and let my lawyer give them a call. Frankly I'm just that irritated at this point.

Little late to the party, just picked one of these up

Called a bunch of stores within an hour of me before I found one that still had a brand new one in stock. Manufactured in April 2016 so hopefully no bootloop issues (fingers crossed). For the price... impossible to beat value wise. $4/mo more than one of the "mid level" offerings like the Galaxy J7 and annihilates those in all categories. Have a Diztronic TPU case and a PNY 128GB card arriving tomorrow for it, so far its been great. Was going to see about leaving it unrooted with all the bloat disabled/uninstalled but after having a rooted G2 for over 2 years and no ads... can't deal with the spam so I'll unlock/root it and go from there.
Also very cool to see so much support out there still for this thing. Hoping it lasts me as long as my G2 did. I did have a G3 briefly on VZW before I switched to T-Mo and that one was great too. Kind worried with the direction the G5 is going but anyway... Very happy.
Also the store that had this new G4 still had a new G3 as well... go figure. If they had a current price vs $400 not updated since 2015... I dunno lol. I paid $349 for this G4 which is a damn steal for what you get. I'll pass on the $700-$800 "flagships" because I don't need to render video for Pixar while playing Pokemon Go and telling someone they are wrong on facebook...
scottyd035ntknow said:
Called a bunch of stores within an hour of me before I found one that still had a brand new one in stock. Manufactured in April 2016 so hopefully no bootloop issues (fingers crossed). For the price... impossible to beat value wise. $4/mo more than one of the "mid level" offerings like the Galaxy J7 and annihilates those in all categories. Have a Diztronic TPU case and a PNY 128GB card arriving tomorrow for it, so far its been great. Was going to see about leaving it unrooted with all the bloat disabled/uninstalled but after having a rooted G2 for over 2 years and no ads... can't deal with the spam so I'll unlock/root it and go from there.
Also very cool to see so much support out there still for this thing. Hoping it lasts me as long as my G2 did. I did have a G3 briefly on VZW before I switched to T-Mo and that one was great too. Kind worried with the direction the G5 is going but anyway... Very happy.
Also the store that had this new G4 still had a new G3 as well... go figure. If they had a current price vs $400 not updated since 2015... I dunno lol. I paid $349 for this G4 which is a damn steal for what you get. I'll pass on the $700-$800 "flagships" because I don't need to render video for Pixar while playing Pokemon Go and telling someone they are wrong on facebook...
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Glad you got one. It's a great phone. Next time, stop by swappa.com/buy/lg-g4-tmobile. You can get a like new device for a greatly cheaper price. And if you have the replacement insurance through T-Mo like I do, 3rd party sold phones like these are covered 100%. Been doing this for the past 3 years now.
Will def check that site out thanks. But... After having used phones I'll do the new thing when I can. I have half a mind to pick that new G3 up as a spare or a gift or something.
But this is easily the best phone I have had except for maybe my Vzw G2 before someone walked off with it... No idea but that phone FLEW...
Got the Tpu case in just now (Diztronic like always) and the PNY card. Time to root and load up the music etc... Also ordered a Qi charging sticker for charging. Really really really hoping this thing stays solid and does not suffer from bootloops...
Edit... Rofl they do indeed want $400 for that G3... I paid $349 for this G4...
Great phone
Love this phone, got it two months ago for $250 brand new after haggling with customer care. Came from the Samsung S5 and it's quite a step up, I'm rooted using latest version of Turbo's Enterprise rom and it's night and day from stock.
Congrats on the purchase.
Yeah I just rooted tonight without incident. Still deciding if I want to go with a rom or not. Phone is fast as hell as is, I've got ads blocked, bloat disabled/uninstalled and I get 7GB a month of tethering for free from T-Mo already... Mainly rooted to get rid of the ads.
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Yeah I just rooted tonight without incident. Still deciding if I want to go with a rom or not. Phone is fast as hell as is, I've got ads blocked, bloat disabled/uninstalled and I get 7GB a month of tethering for free from T-Mo already... Mainly rooted to get rid of the ads.
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Just so you know once you root you will have a hard time getting the phone sim unlocked if you need too.i have been going round and round with tmo the last 3 days trying to get mine sim unlocked.also they know every app on your phone as they told me i had to unistall one of the apps i had.
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Just so you know once you root you will have a hard time getting the phone sim unlocked if you need too.i have been going round and round with tmo the last 3 days trying to get mine sim unlocked.also they know every app on your phone as they told me i had to unistall one of the apps i had.
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Don't need it. Probably won't even Rom it.
what rooting method did you use?
Insurance
demoncamber said:
Glad you got one. It's a great phone. Next time, stop by swappa.com/buy/lg-g4-tmobile. You can get a like new device for a greatly cheaper price. And if you have the replacement insurance through T-Mo like I do, 3rd party sold phones like these are covered 100%. Been doing this for the past 3 years now.
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Hi Are you talking about JUMP? Because I didn't know that you can apply it to third-party phones. If it is not can you let me know, Thank you.
gillim74 said:
Just so you know once you root you will have a hard time getting the phone sim unlocked if you need too.i have been going round and round with tmo the last 3 days trying to get mine sim unlocked.also they know every app on your phone as they told me i had to unistall one of the apps i had.
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This is completely false. I've sim unlocked easily while bootloader unlocked and rooted. Just be stock based, not cm, and you'll be fine. I used the tmo sim unlock app right after I met the requirements and sim unlocked easily. I restored to cm immediately afterwards.
I recommend making a backup and flashing micro's stock zip build and trying the sim unlock app. If you're still having issues, check if you meet tmo's sim unlock requirements. (device paid off, device on the account long enough, enough payments have been made if prepaid.)
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This is completely false. I've sim unlocked easily while bootloader unlocked and rooted. Just be stock based, not cm, and you'll be fine. I used the tmo sim unlock app right after I met the requirements and sim unlocked easily. I restored to cm immediately afterwards.
I recommend making a backup and flashing micro's stock zip build and trying the sim unlock app. If you're still having issues, check if you meet tmo's sim unlock requirements. (device paid off, device on the account long enough, enough payments have been made if prepaid.)
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Mine wouldnt work and i got so fed up i sold the phone and switched carriers.tmobo lied to me over and over

Where and safest to buy DeepSeaBlue Exynos Note 8, live in Canada.

I have never bought an unlocked phone before, but then again I had never anticipated phones prices becoming so expensive, so I prefer to get the best bang-for-my-buck. Is there a significant performance difference between SnapDragon and Exynos? From some quick research I did, it seems that SnapDragon is slightly better than Exynos in gaming due to its GPU, and Exynos gets better battery performance and a slightly smoother experience all while being an unlocked phone? If it is too much of a hassle to get the Deep sea Blue Exynos Note 8 imported and if there isn't much of a difference I can settle for the SnapDragon one.
I have looked online but find can't any places besides Amazon where I feel safe dishing out $1300 CAD and know its going to be just as good as if I bought it from Samsung (unfortunately amazon doesn't seem to have the blue colour). I get that technically they are a 3rd party seller but their customer service and return policy is so good that it's fine; especially because internationally imported phones seem to have no warranty. I thought about eBay at first, but honestly that's a crap-shoot. Only other possibility was NCIX but I despise them.
would subscribing to a VPN and then loading up the Samsung website in region that has Exynos work?
What makes you think that eBay is a "crap shoot"? Many of us got ours that way.
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What makes you think that eBay is a "crap shoot"? Many of us got ours that way.
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Because I have gotten scammed before and getting your money back is a hassle. Not worth the trouble. Anyway you think it's worth to get the Exynos ?
GreenBirdo said:
Because I have gotten scammed before and getting your money back is a hassle. Not worth the trouble. Anyway you think it's worth to get the Exynos ?
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I think the 256gb and Exynos are worth it. If it was only the cpu I might need to think twice.
I bought mine about 3 weeks ago on ebay.It took 2 weeks to get here from the seller.Despite the seller being a U.S. seller. But in all its glory and beauty I got my 256gb deep blue sea brand new in box I was very happy.
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I found one one and I'm tempted to pull the trigger but the more I think on the the more I'm hesitant. Not having warranty on a $1300CAD device is a little disappointing. You guys thinks it's worth?
Got mine on eBay worth it 100%
Yep do it !! Just get a nice case and your golden.
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Alright, you guys talked me into it. Just three quick questions. Are these two websites reputable? https://www.clove.co.uk/ https://www.omegacell.com/ and are the phones new? As in they won't send me old one someone sent back and call it "new" when shipping it to me.
Also it will work on Freedom Mobile, right? I did my research and it seems to work, but just wanted to double check with you more knowledgeable folks here.
Edit: would Bixby also work?
GreenBirdo said:
I found one one and I'm tempted to pull the trigger but the more I think on the the more I'm hesitant. Not having warranty on a $1300CAD device is a little disappointing. You guys thinks it's worth?
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This is definitely a valid concern. My N950N had the lower usb/mic/speaker/antenna circuit board stop working properly after about a week and apparently quite a few of us have run into issues with that same component. The rest of the phone works perfectly, and the boards are $5 to $10 US once they're available so I'm not very concerned but it is a bit frustrating to pay over $1300 and have something break in the first week, when all the US model phones I've had never had a single issue that wasn't entirely my fault.
i can't find any deepbluesea one's on ebay
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This is definitely a valid concern. My N950N had the lower usb/mic/speaker/antenna circuit board stop working properly after about a week and apparently quite a few of us have run into issues with that same component. The rest of the phone works perfectly, and the boards are $5 to $10 US once they're available so I'm not very concerned but it is a bit frustrating to pay over $1300 and have something break in the first week, when all the US model phones I've had never had a single issue that wasn't entirely my fault.
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Damn that sucks. There is no way to ship it back to the seller and have them send it in for a fix, no? You just kind of burst my bubble. But I think I'm still going to pull the trigger. I'll wait 1-2 more days before I drop that much money. But if all I'm losing is WiFi-calling and VoLTE, It's a go from me. If I lose Bixby too, then I guess SD it is.
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Damn that sucks. There is no way to ship it back to the seller and have them send it in for a fix, no? You just kind of burst my bubble. But I think I'm still going to pull the trigger. I'll wait 1-2 more days before I drop that much money. But if all I'm losing is WiFi-calling and VoLTE, It's a go from me. If I lose Bixby too, then I guess SD it is.
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I might have been able to ship it over there but TWRP + root = Knox 0x1 so they wouldn't warranty repair it anyway, nevermind the down time of being without it for who knows how long with shipping both ways and repair time.
You'll lose wifi calling and VoLTE unless you flash your carrier's CSC and make sure they have those features enabled for the new phone. Bixby still works.
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I might have been able to ship it over there but TWRP + root = Knox 0x1 so they wouldn't warranty repair it anyway, nevermind the down time of being without it for who knows how long with shipping both ways and repair time.
You'll lose wifi calling and VoLTE unless you flash your carrier's CSC and make sure they have those features enabled for the new phone. Bixby still works.
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I see, I see. Guess the warranty part wouldn't apply to you regardless since you instantly rooted it, lol. VoLTE is okay, but doesn't impact me in anyway. Just seems like better connection/quality. WiFi-calling just seems like more of the same and kind of useless to me personally. Unless I don't understand what it does. But in this day and age we have good enough call quality and pretty much unlimited calling that I don't get the big deal. But to each their own.
GreenBirdo said:
I see, I see. Guess the warranty part wouldn't apply to you regardless since you instantly rooted it, lol. VoLTE is okay, but doesn't impact me in anyway. Just seems like better connection/quality. WiFi-calling just seems like more of the same and kind of useless to me personally. Unless I don't understand what it does. But in this day and age we have good enough call quality and pretty much unlimited calling that I don't get the big deal. But to each their own.
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VoLTE and Wifi calling are basically the same thing, just that one runs on your LTE connection and one runs over your wifi-to-internet connection. They should in theory provide better voice calls than standard 3g can handle. Wifi calling is also great if you can use it overseas - every time I go to Asia I keep my T-Mobile SIM card around and make calls to home people for free because it's going over the internet instead of through the phone system.
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VoLTE and Wifi calling are basically the same thing, just that one runs on your LTE connection and one runs over your wifi-to-internet connection. They should in theory provide better voice calls than standard 3g can handle. Wifi calling is also great if you can use it overseas - every time I go to Asia I keep my T-Mobile SIM card around and make calls to home people for free because it's going over the internet instead of through the phone system.
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Thanks for all your help, I really appreciate it. You have been amazing! After much deliberation with myself, I went ahead and bought the SD version. Due to the fact that I'm an extremely picky person when I am spending this much money on a product. I need to be 100% sure the product I received had in no way been opened and used, and I'm fairly certain that they power-up the product to see if it's DOA; this irks me. Also the fact that I don't have warranty was too much of a loss for me. If I get the phone and if it ends up breaking or having screen bleeding I can exchange it no problem. I would rather sacrifice a little bit of performance and [email protected] video over peace of mind in the product i'm getting. Plus I managed to get $700 off the phone due to calling my carrier and complaining about the troubles I have with my current phone.
Also thank you for the information about the differences betwen VoLTE and WiFi-calling
Wish you the best. Cheers mate.

I ordered an N950F/DS and got an N9500 -- should I be upset?

I live in the US and the phone works - but it's a Snapdragon, not an Exynos ( so ... better?) and I'm not really sure what to think now that I see the hardware model of it.
The only noticeable differences I could find are that handwriting defaulted to Chinese and the Chinese calendar seems burned into the Samsung Calendar app.
Anything I should look out for? Should I pursue a return through Amazon?
Samsung pay?
Try hard reset then immediately sideloading Samsung Pay 2.7.03 (apk from apkmirror) and Framework 2.7.51 see if spay will work.
If you have problems with language options in general, you can factory reset and set up your languages defaults from the very beginning (on the very first page, you will have a language selector, possibly showing Korean as a default choice, type the Korean writing and choose your favorite localization; this happens on any model by Samsung). This is highly recommended if you do not trust the vendor.
As far as I can tell, the main limitation of N9500 is localization of hardware-secured features: if you plan to use the (awesome) Samsung Pay, apparently you can do so only in Hong Kong so far (with N9500). As I understand, Samsung uses/experiments a more advanced system in Hong Kong, which you will not be able to use elsewhere. I have a N9500 and I want to try to spoof the model number in build.prop to see if one can cheat the phone to have Samsung Pay work everywhere.
Snapdragon vs Exynos is a mixed bag, depending on your workload. Exynos performs slightly better, Snapdragon will offer a faster web experience. In my opinion, no noticeable difference at all. However if you:
-Have a 64GB model
-Have a write heavy workload (quite rare, for instance you do some video-editing on phone or backup GB of data TO the phone every day)
exynos will perform noticeably better in these tasks since Samsung uses different NAND on the two models. For reading workload, again the difference is not noticeable.
Also, my guess is that you got N9500 for a better price: these are usually imported models from Hong Kong or UAE, with no official support. Importers likely got a much better price than the local Samsung offer, or maybe they avoided some import taxes via shady practices. If you paid the same as the official listing in your country, you may want to ask for a replacement regardless of the hardware.
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Just to clear out, in the message before I meant that both the conditions (64GB AND write heavy) need to be satisfied to have an Exynos preference.
I haven't run into any actual problems yet (4 hours of use?) and I'm trying to avoid any modifications while I decide how to handle this... The whole thing seems shady, there's a promotional coupon stuck over the model number on the box. I feel like it was done intentionally for some reason.
delugeofspam said:
I haven't run into any actual problems yet (4 hours of use?) and I'm trying to avoid any modifications while I decide how to handle this... The whole thing seems shady, there's a promotional coupon stuck over the model number on the box. I feel like it was done intentionally for some reason.
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Well if you were sold a model different than the listing description and you are worried/not happy about it, get your money back and make sure you don't lose even a penny (teaching seller a lesson in the process since a lot of this purposeful shadiness seems to be happening even when seller knows).
Don't be upset. You might have gotten the only Snapdragon variant with an unlockable bootloader out the box. If you don't mind double checking this, go to developer options and see if there's an OEM unlocking toggle. Then download Crom and run it, it should unlock your bootloader.
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Don't be upset. You might have gotten the only Snapdragon variant with an unlockable bootloader out the box. If you don't mind double checking this, go to developer options and see if there's an OEM unlocking toggle. Then download Crom and run it, it should unlock your bootloader.
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Unfortunately, no such luck.
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Unfortunately, no such luck.
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Really? Damn, Samsung is seriously tightening things up, the HK and CN variants used to the only Snadragon models that came with an official bootloader unlock tool/method.
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Really? Damn, Samsung is really tightening things up, the HK and CN variants used to the only Samsung models that came with an official bootloader unlock tool/method.
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Didn't people have to wait exactly a week after activation for that option to show up or something like that?
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Didn't people have to wait exactly a week after activation for that option to show up or something like that?
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I don’t recall anything of the sort, but don’t hold that against me. My last Samsung device prior to the Note 8 was the S6 (which I despised). The S5 was Samsung’s last great and true user/developer/mod friendly device. Even though the design got a lot of hate, I quite liked it. It went to eight different countries with me, and never gave me grief even though I used it as an underwater camera countless times.
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I don’t recall anything of the sort, but don’t hold that against me. My last Samsung device prior to the Note 8 was the S6 (which I despised). The S5 was Samsung’s last great and true user/developer/mod friendly device. Even though the design got a lot of hate, I quite liked it. It went to eight different countries with me, and never gave me grief even though I used it as an underwater camera countless times.
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Yep double checked and there is a 1 week wait post activation for OEM UNLOCK option to appear.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140/page64
Not sure if applies to qualcomm variants too. Doesnt HK/CN by law require OEM UNLOCK? Read something along this line somewhere here.
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Yep double checked and there is a 1 week wait post activation for OEM UNLOCK option to appear.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140/page64
Not sure if applies to qualcomm variants too. Doesnt HK/CN by law require OEM UNLOCK? Read something along this line somewhere here.
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Hey! That’s amazing news for OP. I believe HK/CN does require that by law. I remember when the S7 was released there, it looked so sleek without the Samsung logos.
Paradoxumical said:
Hey! That’s amazing news for OP. I believe HK/CN does require that by law. I remember when the S7 was released there, it looked so sleek without the Samsung logos.
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Yep it would be if it applies to Qualcomm variants and if it does it may only apply to HK/CN variants.
Maybe someone that has already had this model for 7+ days can confirm it for him.
The company I purchased it from refuses to advance-replace this with the phone I ordered and seems to expect me to pay to ship it back to them. This is probably going to turn into a dispute with Amazon, so I'm out another $900+ as I have to get into a new phone ASAP, and leave this one with zero wear.
I'm pretty convinced that I want the N950FD/S Aus, Europe & Lat edition of this phone despite living in the U.S. I don't want to suffer heavily locked bootloaders even for a Snapdragon and it seems there is more development for Exynos.
Please, though, tell me I'm wrong and that I should keep this phone that I dumped hours into configuring before catching on to the damn Chinese calendar embedded in the Samsung Calendar app :|
Damn yeah I would return it and get the exynos model you want oem unlock for sure ! I love my deep sea blue 256gb N950N its a work horse things were a pain at first but most the issues have been sorted out and its the best 1200$ i spent.
delugeofspam said:
The company I purchased it from refuses to advance-replace this with the phone I ordered and seems to expect me to pay to ship it back to them. This is probably going to turn into a dispute with Amazon, so I'm out another $900+ as I have to get into a new phone ASAP, and leave this one with zero wear.
I'm pretty convinced that I want the N950FD/S Aus, Europe & Lat edition of this phone despite living in the U.S. I don't want to suffer heavily locked bootloaders even for a Snapdragon and it seems there is more development for Exynos.
Please, though, tell me I'm wrong and that I should keep this phone that I dumped hours into configuring before catching on to the damn Chinese calendar embedded in the Samsung Calendar app :|
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If I were you, I would keep it. I’m 92% sure TWRP will pop-up for your device in the upcoming weeks. I don’t know if Samsung has released the kernel source yet, but once they do, I’ll be more than happy to compile it for you. I remember the same thing happened with the HK/CN variant of the S7. Holding out a week to see if OEM Unlocking shows up will be worth if it does.
Dont want to start a new thread so hopefully someone can help on here.
I ordered a N950fd but have received a N9500. It's currently sat in dubai waiting for a friend to bring back to UK.
Should i stick with it or get the N950FD instead? I would like to use Samsung pay but it's not a deal breaker as dont use it that much now anyway. Is there anything else i should be worried about?
thanks
So you ordered the Big Mac and got a Cheeseburger...
If you were at Macca's would you complain and want the right order? I know I would...
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So you ordered the Big Mac and got a Cheeseburger...
If you were at Macca's would you complain and want the right order? I know I would...
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Lol do you really think there's that much difference?
imy300 said:
Lol do you really think there's that much difference?
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Yes.....
Not only is there a difference, but I want what I ordered...

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