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Hey guys, first off Happy New Year.
Out of curiosity, I want to try Linux for myself and see what the hype is all about.
On http://www.linux.com/download_linux there are tons of different versions. I'm not a developer, just a Linux-newbie looking to explore around to see what's up. I don't plan on replacing my current OS with it, just run it at the same time and play around with it.
So, which Linux distribution would be best for me? And can I use something like Vmware Player to boot it?
edit: Forgot to mention
Using a Dell Inspiron E1505 running Windows Vista Home Premium.
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Ubuntu
good place to start IMO
good luck and have fun
and a happy new year to you in la la land
p.s...always use a live cd...this way your see if it works ok with your dell before installing
Ubuntu lets you install inside windows....and its so easy...my mom could install it
so you keep vista and have Ubuntu....then just choose which one you want to use on boot up
I used this site : http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
I need openSUSE 11.1, apparantly.
Ta
Dave
thanks for that dave
never seen that before
its told me
Fedora, Mandriva, OpenSuSE or Ubuntu....so i was right...well for me any how
liamhere said:
never seen that before
its told me
Fedora, Mandriva, OpenSuSE or Ubuntu....so i was right...well for me any how
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I wanted a new linux distro to throw on my old machine instead of smoothwall, so I just google "linux distro chooser" or something similar and found it
I've downloaded and burnt it to DVD, I just need time to set it up
Dave
vicjan88 said:
Hey guys, first off Happy New Year.
Out of curiosity, I want to try Linux for myself and see what the hype is all about.
On http://www.linux.com/download_linux there are tons of different versions. I'm not a developer, just a Linux-newbie looking to explore around to see what's up. I don't plan on replacing my current OS with it, just run it at the same time and play around with it.
So, which Linux distribution would be best for me? And can I use something like Vmware Player to boot it?
edit: Forgot to mention
Using a Dell Inspiron E1505 running Windows Vista Home Premium.
Anything else you need to know? Ask.
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UBUNTU is very popular an the community provides great support. Personally, I really like a distro that is a fork off of the UBUNTU distro called LINUX MINT. MINT is setup where many of the multimedia formats that don't work in UBUNTU by default because of licensing issues will work anyway. Decreases startup time.
Hello, vicjan88
Well, Ubuntu is nice, but actually teaches you to do things the windows-way. Yeah, it's so. It's a sort of a good place to start, but then you should move on to something more serious and.. less buggy. If you are just a small bit aware of what MBR is and have an idea of how to better partition your drives - i advise you to chose either fedora core or mandriva. They are a good place to start (my first distro was some old red hat,and it was nice). The thing about a distro for a beginner is that it should have good graphical or pseudo-graphical interface to configure everything - so that one can at least make his linux box feel working as good as windows. Experience comes from practice, so when you become quite familiar with your first distro, the rest will go just fine. Actually it is a good idea to start with Debian. But choose the testing version. Neither unstable, nor stable - they have certain problems. Or, ArchLinux. It is a nice distro, but the problem is that there is few software compiled for it, but the wiki and forums are just perfect. Anyhow, write back when you install some distro. Have fun!
coose Ubuntu, the newer editions lets you install "inside windows" its a feature called wubi
so you dont need any knowledge on partitioning or anything else
I think the best thing about linux is, it's not windows, it's different and, to a M$ fanboy like me, it's something new to learn. No point using Linux, if you're going to use it like Windows
@Ather, I've de-creased your post count.
Ta
Dave
Ubuntu is very similar to XP in many ways and is a nice, intuitive way into Linux.
Kubuntu if you want it to look more like win.
NUU! Go with
openSUSE or Ubuntu Ultimate. I personally have the following OS's on my pc;
openSUSE
Ubuntu Ultimate
BackTrack
Win XP
Ubuntu is nice if you are starting out with Linux. You might even find another distro which you like more. I use Ubuntu as a virtual machine if I need it, and standalone on my older machine. I also like having BackTrack 3 on my USB flash drive if I need it.
Dave
ubuntu is great,. i have ever used it once,.
I've always been partial to openSUSE, but the recent release of 11 was somewhat dissapointing for me (perticularly with KDE4) as it seemed a bit half hearted. Ubuntu isn't bad and is certainatly popular and Kubuntu is good if you prefer KDE to GNOME (which I personally do)
I prefer KDE, thats's why I've decided to use openSUSE more.
I just installed new OS's yesterday
newest openSUSE
Ubuntu Ultimate Gamers Edition v2.0
Windows 7 Ultimate
Windows XP SP3
Pick Ubuntu. It's the most user-friendly version out there and that's the one I've always used. It works on all my computers from the old 300mhz P3 to the 1.6ghz dual-core laptop. There are also different versions of Ubuntu with different desktop environnements. Consider Kubuntu (KDE), Xubuntu (XFCE) and the rest.
If you want to put it on a laptop, be ready for a challenge. While everything will work out of the box for desktops, Wi-Fi hardware is a pain in the butt to set up. Once you're done with that, however, there's no going back, Linux is awesome!
I am completely new to mint and linux. Can anyone help me with installing the latest version of wine? I Got the one from package manager but I want the dev one. I have NO clue how to install or do stuff on linux. Also my wifi is SLOW on linux vs win 7. Anyone know why? I have a reltek 8192CU.
Well, all these brilliant at home hackers have developed better operating systems than the scores of software engineers at Microsoft. Don't you realize taxi drivers and hairdressers are the only ones who really know what's going on??
Wtf are you talking about?
Just ranting, ignore my post.
Did I ask something wrong? So no help just a rant? I think I got the newest version of wine to install. 1.3.2 I think it was.
I would like to see Ubuntu running native on OUYA but my knowledge about porting Linux of any kind to other devices is simply not existant.
Is there anyone able and willing to do it? I think it should be relatively easy to do if you use ubuntu touch for asus transformer infinity (tf700t) to start because it also uses tegra 3 t33 as SoC. The touch enviroment obviously doesn't have to work so if you got time left you could do a preinstalled with KDE for good performance experience.
If tools like CWM or a cyanogenmod are helpfull you should go to the OUYA section of this wonderfull forum, they are avaliable right now.
Thanks for reading. Klindworth
Klindworth said:
I would like to see Ubuntu running native on OUYA but my knowledge about porting Linux of any kind to other devices is simply not existant.
Is there anyone able and willing to do it? I think it should be relatively easy to do if you use ubuntu touch for asus transformer infinity (tf700t) to start because it also uses tegra 3 t33 as SoC. The touch enviroment obviously doesn't have to work so if you got time left you could do a preinstalled with KDE for good performance experience.
If tools like CWM or a cyanogenmod are helpfull you should go to the OUYA section of this wonderfull forum, they are avaliable right now.
Thanks for reading. Klindworth
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Ubuntu touch was designed for Mobile devices.. OUYA requires you to have a display like a TV or a monitor, if you know where I'm going with this then what you're asking to be done is the same as running Android on a desktop. Just get the normal Ubuntu that's designed for desktops and laptops. Ubuntu touch is only for small devices.
There is no "normal" preinstalled Desktop version of ubuntu with bootloader out there for the OUYA.
Ubuntu touch is still a real linux just with a different kernel like the ARM server editions and another GUI optimized for touch
or am i mistaken?
The benefit of ubuntu touch is the optimized kernel for ARM SOCs like Tegra3 not OMAP 3 or OMAP 4 or the TI ARM structures. With a lot of time and reading and searching i think i should be able to compile one or i could use the kernels already made by canicoal.
Uninstall the touch stuff an installing an alternative GUI and so on shouldn't be the problem.
My biggest Problem is to get it running without an proper boot.img.
Ouya has, like other Android devices, no real bios or efi and the only way i know to change the OS is via ADB in combination with CWM an fastboot to change the system data and the boot.img.
So if anyone knows how to port it i (and many other ouya owners) would be really greatfull if someone would take the time to port a version of ubuntu to the ouya and ubuntu touch seems to be the easiest option.
A tutorial to boot any linux natively on ouya(not chroot or something like that) and change the bootloader would also do it but it would be a lot of work to write one for retards like me
Klindworth said:
There is no "normal" preinstalled Desktop version of ubuntu with bootloader out there for the OUYA.
Ubuntu touch is still a real linux just with a different kernel like the ARM server editions and another GUI optimized for touch
or am i mistaken?
The benefit of ubuntu touch is the optimized kernel for ARM SOCs like Tegra3 not OMAP 3 or OMAP 4 or the TI ARM structures. With a lot of time and reading and searching i think i should be able to compile one or i could use the kernels already made by canicoal.
Uninstall the touch stuff an installing an alternative GUI and so on shouldn't be the problem.
My biggest Problem is to get it running without an proper boot.img.
Ouya has, like other Android devices, no real bios or efi and the only way i know to change the OS is via ADB in combination with CWM an fastboot to change the system data and the boot.img.
So if anyone knows how to port it i (and many other ouya owners) would be really greatfull if someone would take the time to port a version of ubuntu to the ouya and ubuntu touch seems to be the easiest option.
A tutorial to boot any linux natively on ouya(not chroot or something like that) and change the bootloader would also do it but it would be a lot of work to write one for retards like me
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Why would anyone want a mobile operating system on a device like that... Yes, Ubuntu Touch is still real Linux but if you wanna get an OS on OUYA that was designed for small screens and touch then be my guest.. And there already is Ubuntu desktop versions for ARM. You're better off getting the ARM version, stripping it down and putting a simple GUI.
Didn't find a Tegra3 optimized arm version yet and don't know which arm kernel version would be completely compatible. is a kernel optimized for cortex A9 enough? Link??
also the problem of no working bootloader still isn't solved.
would be fine with me if someone would port that. all i want is a working linux port for ouya
darkforester67 said:
Why would anyone want a mobile operating system on a device like that... Yes, Ubuntu Touch is still real Linux but if you wanna get an OS on OUYA that was designed for small screens and touch then be my guest.. And there already is Ubuntu desktop versions for ARM. You're better off getting the ARM version, stripping it down and putting a simple GUI.
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I would like to point out he is saying to change the desktop environment to run something more desktop friendly
Although the only environment I know of is a buggy version of unity from the Ubuntu ARM days...there might be gnome as well, if you look through the Backtrack and Kali sources
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Klindworth said:
Didn't find a Tegra3 optimized arm version yet and don't know which arm kernel version would be completely compatible. is a kernel optimized for cortex A9 enough? Link??
also the problem of no working bootloader still isn't solved.
would be fine with me if someone would port that. all i want is a working linux port for ouya
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You're not going to find a version optimized for Tegra 3 on their site because Ubuntu already recognizes the chip..
I don't wanna sound like an a-hole but the idea is a bit far fetched.. the OS isn't even 100% stable, most core functions are working such as calling, wifi and other stuff.. but okay you get it to work right?, then what?, even if you use a GUI like GNOME which I doubt anybody is gonna want to port (since GNOME is made for desktops and laptops) you're still gonna be very limited. Plus does Ubuntu touch even support HDMI output yet?. There's just too much work for this..
You're not going to find a version optimized for Tegra 3 on their site because Ubuntu already recognizes the chip..
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maybe im dumb but i only find preinstalled ARM edition for servers with omap 3&4 architecture. would you please link the version you think is running? and do i need a boot.img modified for the ouya? if i need one, can you provide one or know somebody who can do it?
Someone is getting close to bring fully functional native Debian to the OUYA. Can't wait until all mayor issues are fixed :victory:
http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2013/08/11/debian-on-ouya/
Isn't it as easy as taking an iso and turning it into a cwm bootanle zop and adding controller support?
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If you know how to do it try it and post the results. I think there should be some issues otherwise Linux distros for OUYA would be accessable and widely spread.
But knowing the issues could help someone else to figure out how to do it right. So, as I said, please try and post the results.
I've looked into porting this myself based on the instructions provided from Jolla's website (found here https://sailfishos.org/develop/hadk/), it seems pretty straight forward. However apparently (according to Jolla) it cannot be done on a 32bit system even if I use Linux (which I do). I was wondering if anyone has entertained the thought of porting it, as there's a 2.0 version of the OS out now and I really want to try it. Kind of missing it from when I used to play around with it on my Nexus 5.
Conversely, if anyone knows a workaround to using a 32bit system, or if they have knowledge of it actually being possible on a 32bit system (could be Jolla is being overly cautious in requiring a 64bit system, but I believe it has something to do with working with MER), your advice would be forthcoming. Willing to put in the work, I just apparently don't have the tools according to Jolla and can't afford a new computer. My two Linux systems (one running Kubuntu, one running Backbox) are very capable. This is just the only prerequisite I don't meet.
As far as multirom, I'm curious if anything special has to be done besides the instructions from Jolla to make it compatible as a secondary rom at least.
Thanks in advance for all responses and patience. I may be a low contributor/noob to this site, but given the proper tools and advice I think I can pull it off. I haven't found anyone that's working on this for the Nexus 6, so if there is someone, obviously I'm willing to help or test.
Special note to Tassadar if you happen to see this: Multirom is the best thing that's happened to android since custom kernels. lol Big ups for your creation!
Awesome I hope more are interested too, I don't have resources to help either besides a test.
I can say that I have never been more impressed with a UI than the one I flashed on my n5 called Sailfish, Same as you I think.
To others of you have what's needed and haven't seen the ui please check it out. I thought it was minimal, sleek, and I believe it used mostly touch commands.
This thread is kinda in the wrong forum. Should be in q and a or general discussion.
But yes I would love to see this on my phone
First, don't post Q&A in development forums. Second, the first step in the guide states the device must be officially supported with CM 10.1.x, which this device isn't. Unless they just haven't updated their guide this will never be possible until it's updated to something based on Lollipop.
nuevosean said:
I've looked into porting this myself based on the instructions provided from Jolla's website (found here https://sailfishos.org/develop/hadk/), it seems pretty straight forward. However apparently (according to Jolla) it cannot be done on a 32bit system even if I use Linux (which I do). I was wondering if anyone has entertained the thought of porting it, as there's a 2.0 version of the OS out now and I really want to try it. Kind of missing it from when I used to play around with it on my Nexus 5.
Conversely, if anyone knows a workaround to using a 32bit system, or if they have knowledge of it actually being possible on a 32bit system (could be Jolla is being overly cautious in requiring a 64bit system, but I believe it has something to do with working with MER), your advice would be forthcoming. Willing to put in the work, I just apparently don't have the tools according to Jolla and can't afford a new computer. My two Linux systems (one running Kubuntu, one running Backbox) are very capable. This is just the only prerequisite I don't meet.
As far as multirom, I'm curious if anything special has to be done besides the instructions from Jolla to make it compatible as a secondary rom at least.
Thanks in advance for all responses and patience. I may be a low contributor/noob to this site, but given the proper tools and advice I think I can pull it off. I haven't found anyone that's working on this for the Nexus 6, so if there is someone, obviously I'm willing to help or test.
Special note to Tassadar if you happen to see this: Multirom is the best thing that's happened to android since custom kernels. lol Big ups for your creation!
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Please read the Forum Rules on posting, Moved here...
FYI, android also has needed to be built on 64 bit only for several versions now. I think since Ice Cream Sandwich.. 32 bit just isn't cut out for it.
Sorry to raise this thread from the depths, but why haven't any devs pursued this?
I would love to try sailfish os on the nexus 6!
A $200 budget device was released just a few days ago in India that runs sailfish os natively, which is why i started looking into it for shamu.
Thought about picking one up, but the cellular bands aren't great for use in the U.S., and spec-wise doesn't hold a candle to shamu.
Through a little searching, it seems one person with the handle of mad_fitter on merproject irc attempted a port back in March, but never finished it afaict. Apparently, the fact that he had an intel chip prevented him from completing the final steps somehow...
This is an old post, but i love my phone and have dabbled with sailfish os before. If it could be ported that would be great and according to the the HADK documentation you can now use a cm 12.1 image instead of 10 to build it, whih was available for shamu. Someone could get the image from archive.org and use that. I have no experience with porting roms so i wouldn't be able to do it but if someone else could it would be great for the few of us that want it.
I would love to try this on my shamu, as well.
Has there been any development on this?
So probably everyone reading this thread knows what Linux Deploy is or (Complete Linux Installer)
I am actually curious what people do when they have their linux environment set up and running
I could not find a good reason yet to just run a linux environment on a phone, sure it's fun but are there any practical reasons ?
What distribution do you run ?
If it's kali/nethunter what do you do with it ?
Which packages do you have installed ?
Any practical applications you use ?
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Haven't tried it on the OP3 but I used something similar on my Nexus 5. Couldn't really find any practical uses for it but it's fun to play around with. Maybe try some games that aren't on Android?
The silence is your answer. No real practical reason to run Linux on a phone.
Unless very specific need, that you clearly don't have elsewhere you wouldn't ask.
Linux environment is best to have but i am facing problems installing it. I have a rooted phone.
Downloaded Applications--Linux deploy, vnc server and terminal emulator.
Distribution- kali Linux
After completing everything SSH and VNC services fail.
Can you help me?
i have custom linux applications
i just picked up this oneplus 3 new cheap.so like all of my devices...i had to break it down .and build from the ground up....so im running a wicked custom kali nethunter rom with full tools and packages. and 4 different 64 bit system on top of that for on the go.....i use my devices all day everyday..ad there's nothing that this device cant get into...for educational purposes only projects.....so by installing Linux on your devices makes your plus 3 a major power house . computer in your pocket..... considering its more powerful than your laptop or desktop....its a frickn beast now
stillwiggin said:
i just picked up this oneplus 3 new cheap.so like all of my devices...i had to break it down .and build from the ground up....so im running a wicked custom kali nethunter rom with full tools and packages. and 4 different 64 bit system on top of that for on the go.....i use my devices all day everyday..ad there's nothing that this device cant get into...for educational purposes only projects.....so by installing Linux on your devices makes your plus 3 a major power house . computer in your pocket..... considering its more powerful than your laptop or desktop....its a frickn beast now
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Can you pm me to helpe install Linux on my OP3.Thanks
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