Traded my white 32gb Edge in for a black 64gb, why is it faster? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge

Did the 14 day return period exchange for a sapphire black 64gb model and noticed right away that everything is snappier and the fingerprint detection was 10x faster. I already even loaded all of my apps and hadn't disabled bloatware yet. There's no way a 13 day old phone can be that much slower than a 1 day old phone.
Anyway that's my story, seems a little boring in this sub-forum on XDA with absolutely nothing going on, so I figured I'd post something.

I've noticed my 64gb black has slowed down quite substantially compared to my Note 3. First day was zippy but it trudges along now, not sure what is causing it because the battery status/check doesn't indicate anything being excessive.

Jonbo298 said:
I've noticed my 64gb black has slowed down quite substantially compared to my Note 3. First day was zippy but it trudges along now, not sure what is causing it because the battery status/check doesn't indicate anything being excessive.
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That's just weird.

Jonbo298 said:
I've noticed my 64gb black has slowed down quite substantially compared to my Note 3. First day was zippy but it trudges along now, not sure what is causing it because the battery status/check doesn't indicate anything being excessive.
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Yeah I'm having the same problem and I have no idea why. A phone like this shouldn't be slowing down like that, my M8 doesn't even randomly slow down like my S6.
No idea whats going on but im hoping for a bootloader unlock or atleast root to help figure out whats going on.

If it's having slow down issues you souls get it checked. I have a ton of apps and over 13GB of pictures and videos and the gallery and phone are still keeping up with Mr which is rare for touchwiz. And I've been around the block. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Supposedly there is a bug that the S6 family of phones are not managing RAM very well and in return it's slowing things down.

h3ck said:
If it's having slow down issues you souls get it checked. I have a ton of apps and over 13GB of pictures and videos and the gallery and phone are still keeping up with Mr which is rare for touchwiz. And I've been around the block. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I did a factory reset last night and so far it's back to being faster. If it doesn't stay this way, it'll be warranty swapped. It was bad because even a reboot didn't resolve my slowness.
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Its 64-bit architecture is truly powerful, letting you take multitasking and multimedia functions to the next level.

If it's having slow down issues you souls get it checked.
If it's having slow down issues you souls get it checked.

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How I managed to reduce lag - for inexperienced users

The S6 is a fast and fluid phone by all means and doesn't lag often -but it does. And until Samsung (under AT&T's crippled control) comes forward with some firmware updates we can expect less than optimal software. These steps seemed to help keep performance smooth and lower the frequency of any stuttering for the time being.
Step 1
Disable Bloat
AT&T Bloat - AT&T FamilyMap, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Live, AT&T Locker, AT&T Locker, AT&T Mail, AT&T Mobile Locate, AT&T Mobile Transfer. AT&T Navigator, Caller Name ID, Device Help, DriveMode, Milk, Milk Video , Smart Limits (Why is there so much!?!)
Samsung Bloat - S Voice, Keeper, Lookout, Hancom Office 2014,
Other Bloat - OneNote, Skype, Uber, YP, Hangouts, Instagram, Facebook, Amazon
You can disable more or disable less, but honestly the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T.
Once you disable everything restart your phone. It is important to make sure all of the applications are not loaded in the RAM, and a reboot should guarantee this. Of course, if you root you can delete the applications instead of disabling them - it's your call.
Step 2
Disable Sensors You're not Using
NFC
Motion and Gestures - Direct call, Smart alert, Mute, Palm Swipe to capture
Bluetooth
Themes (These may not actually affect performance, only time will tell)
Account Sync
GPS
Wifi - Network notification, Always allow scanning
News Briefing
Step 3
Stay up to date
System updates
Google Play App updates
Galaxy App updates - new users may not know to check this application for system updates
That about does it for now. Time to wait for both ROMs (if the bootloader is ever unlocked) and firmware updates.
Hippoman13 said:
The S6 is a fast and fluid phone by all means and doesn't lag often -but it does. And until Samsung (under AT&T's crippled control) comes forward with some firmware updates we can expect less than optimal software. These steps seemed to help keep performance smooth and lower the frequency of any stuttering for the time being.
Step 1
Disable Bloat
AT&T Bloat - AT&T FamilyMap, AT&T Hot Spots, AT&T Live, AT&T Locker, AT&T Locker, AT&T Mail, AT&T Mobile Locate, AT&T Mobile Transfer. AT&T Navigator, Caller Name ID, Device Help, DriveMode, Milk, Milk Video , Smart Limits (Why is there so much!?!)
Samsung Bloat - S Voice, Keeper, Lookout, Hancom Office 2014,
Other Bloat - OneNote, Skype, Uber, YP, Hangouts, Instagram, Facebook, Amazon
You can disable more or disable less, but honestly the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T.
Once you disable everything restart your phone. It is important to make sure all of the applications are not loaded in the RAM, and a reboot should guarantee this. Of course, if you root you can delete the applications instead of disabling them - it's your call.
Step 2
Disable Unnecessary Sensors
NFC
Motion and Gestures - Direct call, Smart alert, Mute, Palm Swipe to capture
Bluetooth
Themes (These may not actually affect performance, only time will tell)
Account Sync
GPS
Wifi - Network notification, Always allow scanning
News Briefing
Step 3
Stay up to date
System updates
Google Play App updates
Galaxy App updates
That about does it for now. Time to wait for both ROMs (if the bootloader is ever unlocked) and firmware updates. Samsung is known for laggy launch software and that is what we're dealing with, folks.
I would appreciate feedback and input.
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Lol, this is almost laughable. You literally have everything on the device disabled? Turn off WiFi Bluetooth GPS??? Why don't you just run your phone in airplane mode since you're only one step away from it....
Even more laughable that you think its "laggy" and not the fastest phone on the market.....
Even MORE laughable that you're actually waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked.... check with the S5 people who bought their phones a year ago and see how that's going for them...
You should just delete Steps 2 and 3 from your list since step 2 is just rediculous, and step 3 is just common sense.
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Lol, this is almost laughable. You literally have everything on the device disabled? Turn off WiFi Bluetooth GPS??? Why don't you just run your phone in airplane mode since you're only one step away from it....
Even more laughable that you think its "laggy" and not the fastest phone on the market.....
Even MORE laughable that you're actually waiting for the bootloader to get unlocked.... check with the S5 people who bought their phones a year ago and see how that's going for them...
You should just delete Steps 2 and 3 from your list since step 2 is just rediculous, and step 3 is just common sense.
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Coming to terms with lag is hard. Especially after you spend your hard earned money on a new Samsung® Phone. EVEN more so for someone who cries under a guide made for inexperienced users. You sound like you know what you're talking about - why are you here?
I don't have everything disabled. I said Disable Unnecessary Sensors(I changed it for you). If any of them are necessary to you, leave them on. Are you still confused?
The phone IS laggy. Every Android phone is to different degrees and your new, shiny Galaxy S6 is no different. ESPECIALLY the AT&T variant. I said the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T, so other versions of the S6 are probably faster and what you read about. Not this one.
The bootloader might be unlocked, or maybe not. Assuming it definitely won't be is laughable.
There's no need to freak out on a guide for inexperienced users. A TON of people bought the S6 and don't know how it works. You certainly do, so don't waste your time.
This is a good guide and starting point, thank you for taking the time to post it here. As always, other users should take all guides as such; a starting point to customize "your" rig for what "you" use. Take what you like and leave the rest aside. :good:
S6 making more problems than S5
My S5 Goes better then the s6 Egde
I opted to get the iPhone 6+ a chance,,and I don't regret it. with the 8.3 update is just buttery smooth, I was going to get the S6, but will all that bloat and no root in the near future the decision was easy. Now just wait for the LG G4 to come out and see what it brings....
The M9 is just out of the equation since I really hated that bezel when I had the M8
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I opted to get the iPhone 6+ a chance,,and I don't regret it. with the 8.3 update is just buttery smooth, I was going to get the S6, but will all that bloat and no root in the near future the decision was easy. Now just wait for the LG G4 to come out and see what it brings....
The M9 is just out of the equation since I really hated that bezel when I had the M8
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Yay for you. Who cares?
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Well the M9 display and camera are quite poor compared to the S6 and iPhone. It's really unfortunate.
The new iPhone is only 5 months away, so enjoy your phone while it's relevant. I've played around with iOS 8.3 and it really is killer, I just don't like iPhones lol.
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Coming to terms with lag is hard. Especially after you spend your hard earned money on a new Samsung® Phone. EVEN more so for someone who cries under a guide made for inexperienced users. You sound like you know what you're talking about - why are you here?
I don't have everything disabled. I said Disable Unnecessary Sensors(I changed it for you). If any of them are necessary to you, leave them on. Are you still confused?
The phone IS laggy. Every Android phone is to different degrees and your new, shiny Galaxy S6 is no different. ESPECIALLY the AT&T variant. I said the bulk of the bloat comes from AT&T, so other versions of the S6 are probably faster and what you read about. Not this one.
The bootloader might be unlocked, or maybe not. Assuming it definitely won't be is laughable.
There's no need to freak out on a guide for inexperienced users. A TON of people bought the S6 and don't know how it works. You certainly do, so don't waste your time.
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Why do people always relate bloat to lag? Do you realize in reality it has almost nothing to do with lag, if at all?
It's like saying "my computer is slower because 70% of my hard drive is full instead of 50%" . It's pure rubbish and simply not true.
So please, I understand you are trying to help but please don't steer people in the wrong direction.
It's just a common XDA myth that everyone jumped on without doing their own research.
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Why do people always relate bloat to lag? Do you realize in reality it has almost nothing to do with lag, if at all?
It's like saying "my computer is slower because 70% of my hard drive is full instead of 50%" . It's pure rubbish and simply not true.
So please, I understand you are trying to help but please don't steer people in the wrong direction.
It's just a common XDA myth that everyone jumped on without doing their own research.
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You're joking, right?
Many bloat apps run in the background and consume CPU and RAM. They don't just sit there dormant in the storage.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Why do people always relate bloat to lag? Do you realize in reality it has almost nothing to do with lag, if at all?
It's like saying "my computer is slower because 70% of my hard drive is full instead of 50%" . It's pure rubbish and simply not true.
So please, I understand you are trying to help but please don't steer people in the wrong direction.
It's just a common XDA myth that everyone jumped on without doing their own research.
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You are an idiot.... Because on physical disk drives (HDD's not SSD's) being fuller does mean slower. That is that the drive will take longer to seek data as the way that the disk writes/reads data it would have to move the heads back an forth much further/more often. as I drive gets fuller it also fragments data more often. his is why a SSD is superior at seek times as it does not have to seek data on a physical level, especially as they get closer to full utilization of capacity.
Beyond that, a HDD writes from outside edge of the disk inward. This is because at the same rpm, each revolution that the disk makes it is able to pull more data on the outside of the disk than the inside. Density of data is uniform so it simply passes more data. Think of a car that has a tiny (diameter) tire vs a large one (same car). At the same rpms in a given gear, the large diameter tire will be moving faster. Why? The outside edge has a higher velocity than the inside of the tire as it spins. The further a spinning object reaches from center, the faster it will be spinning at an outside edge vs inner.
I agree this guide is bs...Just as your understanding of computer storage architecture is.
There really isn't much lag. That may be b/c I disabled everything first thing after unboxing, but I disabled b/c I dont want all those apps downloading updates. Not b/c I noticed any lag. Touchwiz is definitely snappier than the GS5.
I'm running my HTC M8 GPE (just wiped it clean). The M8 is a tad bit quicker/responsive, but the S6 is very, very close. M8 GPE is still an awesome phone
The camera and added software features like multi-window, quick camera access, etc. make the S6 slightly better in my opinion (for me at least).
My main concern with the S6, and why I'm considering returning it and waiting for the Note, is the battery life. So far it just hasn't been good. Probably 3.5hrs of screen time. And I can't replace the battery, so after a year the battery life is going to be bad. It does charge fast, but I don't want to have to worry about that.
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There really isn't much lag. That may be b/c I disabled everything first thing after unboxing, but I disabled b/c I dont want all those apps downloading updates. Not b/c I noticed any lag. Touchwiz is definitely snappier than the GS5.
I'm running my HTC M8 GPE (just wiped it clean). The M8 is a tad bit quicker/responsive, but the S6 is very, very close. M8 GPE is still an awesome phone
The camera and added software features like multi-window, quick camera access, etc. make the S6 slightly better in my opinion (for me at least).
My main concern with the S6, and why I'm considering returning it and waiting for the Note, is the battery life. So far it just hasn't been good. Probably 3.5hrs of screen time. And I can't replace the battery, so after a year the battery life is going to be bad. It does charge fast, but I don't want to have to worry about that.
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Yeah the battery has been a disappointment so far coming from the g3... but I only had the g3 for a month and had a nexus 5 for a year before that so I'm kinda used to it. Still a buzzkill tho
I feel like each and everyone of you shouldn't be surprised by any of this. It happened on S3, S4, S5 and the note devices why would the S6 be any different. Until we start putting our foot down(never going to happen) as consumers it's safe to assume that the S7 won't be any different.
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LeKtRiCzzz said:
I feel like each and everyone of you shouldn't be surprised by any of this. It happened on S3, S4, S5 and the note devices why would the S6 be any different. Until we start putting our foot down(never going to happen) as consumers it's safe to assume that the S7 won't be any different.
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I was by no means surprised. I saw the size of the battery before I bought it. I know it's a quality screen that will also impact it. I'm surprised it gets the same kind of battery life as the nexus 5 tbh
This is honestly so dumb. There is no lag...
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I was by no means surprised. I saw the size of the battery before I bought it. I know it's a quality screen that will also impact it. I'm surprised it gets the same kind of battery life as the nexus 5 tbh
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I'm only disappointed in the fact that we finally get a Samsung battery efficient processor, but then they make the battery smaller than the S5 and seal it. I could see myself keeping this phone for 2 years, but I would need to replace the battery at some point.
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I'm only disappointed in the fact that we finally get a Samsung battery efficient processor, but then they make the battery smaller than the S5 and seal it. I could see myself keeping this phone for 2 years, but I would need to replace the battery at some point.
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I can understand that... but remember the device's footprint is smaller and more compact than the s5. There's only so much room. Once you've owned a nexus 5, u learn to keep a charger at the office in case of emergency and a car charger in the center console outlet.
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I can understand that... but remember the device's footprint is smaller and more compact than the s5. There's only so much room. Once you've owned a nexus 5, u learn to keep a charger at the office in case of emergency and a car charger in the center console outlet.
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Yeah I have a 2A charger at work and in my car. So i'm usually not far away from a charger. But the more you charge, the faster you wear the battery life. If I could replace the battery, not a big problem. But they sealed it!!! arghh!! wth Samsung?!
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Yeah I have a 2A charger at work and in my car. So i'm usually not far away from a charger. But the more you charge, the faster you wear the battery life. If I could replace the battery, not a big problem. But they sealed it!!! arghh!! wth Samsung?!
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I've never replaced a battery in any phone I've had and I don't use microsd so I actually like the device being sealed. It adds to the build quality and the sturdiness. You couldn't have the glass back if it was removable

Buyers remorse

I love this phone, but the up and down issues are disappointing. One day I have really good battery life and the next day the opposite. Apps unfortunately like Pandora are still closing in the background. I am now debating if rooting and throwing a rom is worth breaking the warranty. Anyone else in the same boat?
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NYLUVBUG said:
I love this phone, but the up and down issues are disappointing. One day I have really good battery life and the next day the opposite. Apps unfortunately like Pandora are still closing in the background. I am now debating if rooting and throwing a rom is worth breaking the warranty. Anyone else in the same boat?
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I'm also considering rooting. I always used to with previous phones, but this time around I just haven't felt like it. I was hoping the latest OTA would improve the battery life...nah. Maybe a debloated rom like Xtrestolite would do the trick.
I feel very strongly that I shouldn't have to install a different rom or turn off certain features in order to have good battery life. Samsung should have made the phone thicker (bigger battery). I'm also shocked at the ram management of this phone.
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I'm also considering rooting. I always used to with previous phones, but this time around I just haven't felt like it. I was hoping the latest OTA would improve the battery life...nah. Maybe a debloated rom like Xtrestolite would do the trick.
I feel very strongly that I shouldn't have to install a different rom or turn off certain features in order to have good battery life. Samsung should have made the phone thicker (bigger battery). I'm also shocked at the ram management of this phone.
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You really shouldn't have to flash a ROM just to get what you paid for but unfortunately that's the case with the S6 and even then it isn't the phone it should be.
So flashing a ROM will help improve battery life, RAM management (biggest issue imo), and performance. When I ran stock experienced lag when I connected to WiFi, the phone will just slow to a crawl on top of that there were lag issues I was having when typing, switching apps (on top of apps having to reload!), and even just unlocking/locking the screen.
I emphasized improve because it's still nowhere near it should be, like at all. I still occasionally experience outbursts of lag that requires me to restart but it's better than before. I'm having serious buyers remorse with this phone and already made up my mind to jumping to another phone (eyeing the new Moto X Pure and Nexus 5) and ditching Samsung phones for the rest of forever.
I agree. I don't want to have to root in order to be plagued with the same problems.
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Rooting this phone saved it for me, before I had to recharge twice a day and was lucky if I even got 1-2 hours of SOT. Now I get 16-18 hours with 4-5 hours SOT consistently. Root it and you won't regret it!
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Rooting this phone saved it for me, before I had to recharge twice a day and was lucky if I even got 1-2 hours of SOT. Now I get 16-18 hours with 4-5 hours SOT consistently. Root it and you won't regret it!
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Which rom did you go with?
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Can anyone suggest a good Rom that handles ram better? Thanks
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Which rom did you go with?
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I did the Rapture 2.1 rom with unikernel v6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmo...pment/romrapture-v1-0uvu2cof67-22-15-t3162603
Make sure to upgrade your baseband and bootloader, this instructions are in the file. Best rom I have used to date.
Thinking of jumping over to a Nexus in 5 months =/
As I came from a Nexus 5 and was already accustomed to having to charge frequently, the battery life has been fine, perhaps even 10-20% better than my old N5. I can't stand music apps shutting down and my LTE connection is wonky. If I go into an elevator and lose signal, I have about a 10% chance it won't reconnect to LTE after exiting until I reboot. My camera makes weird noises and has the ripple effect when launching. I also still haven't figured out why it vibrates every once in awhile with no apparent corresponding notification. After paying half what I paid for the S6 for my previous 2 phones, the Nexus 4 & 5, I had very high expectations for the S6. I think photo quality is about the only category where it has met or exceeded my expectations. My nexus devices also held their resale value very well while the S6 is tanking fast.
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As I came from a Nexus 5 and was already accustomed to having to charge frequently, the battery life has been fine, perhaps even 10-20% better than my old N5. I can't stand music apps shutting down and my LTE connection is wonky. If I go into an elevator and lose signal, I have about a 10% chance it won't reconnect to LTE after exiting until I reboot. My camera makes weird noises and has the ripple effect when launching. I also still haven't figured out why it vibrates every once in awhile with no apparent corresponding notification. After paying half what I paid for the S6 for my previous 2 phones, the Nexus 4 & 5, I had very high expectations for the S6. I think photo quality is about the only category where it has met or exceeded my expectations. My nexus devices also held their resale value very well while the S6 is tanking fast.
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The camera noise is the camera senor optimizing.
You can change the ripple effect under lock screen> unlock effects.
The random vibrations is a new feature Samsung added in 5.1.1. It is actually an indicator that an app has crashed and most of the time you don't know what even crashes.
Doing a factory reset would help you if the LTE issue. Even I dont get LTE in an elevator, but it always comes back.
Yeah can't knock the photo quailty. Really hope samsung fixes the current issues before they release the note 5 and edge.
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this is my first samsung product since i had the note 2. i gave up on them for years. i love the s6, great design, premium feel, good sound and much better battery life than my nexus 5 had. no remorse here at all. it really is like having a iphone made for android. its also refreshing to not have to have cm nightlies to flash daily, frees up more of my time. although aosp would be a beast on this device.
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this is my first samsung product since i had the note 2. i gave up on them for years. i love the s6, great design, premium feel, good sound and much better battery life than my nexus 5 had. no remorse here at all. it really is like having a iphone made for android. its also refreshing to not have to have cm nightlies to flash daily, frees up more of my time. although aosp would be a beast on this device.
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but your Nexus is smoother, the S6 simply lags over time. Nothinng can be done to fix Touchwiz.
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but your Nexus is smoother, the S6 simply lags over time. Nothinng can be done to fix Touchwiz.
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true to an extent but ive had my s6 for 3 weeks and i see no lag.
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true to an extent but I've had my S6 for 3 weeks and i see no lag.
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You will, trust me. Used a S6 for a week, ditched it already for a 3rd Gen Moto G, and that has 1GB of ram. It still multitasks better and runs smoother. I am waiting for the new Nexus. Take a look at this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQR5B-KuQ1M
While the Moto G cannot touch the S6 in terms of camera, display, and gaming performance, general tasks are much more smoother. I think Samsung git it out of the park with design, but not in software.
As others have said, the camera is fantastic, but there RAM management is absurdly bad. My device lags badly every day, despite resetting the device and clearing system cache. I get a weird vibration when taking pictures if I accidentally tap the side of the phone. Tasker cannot effectively work because it keeps getting killed (RAM management), Pandora rarely works correctly (RAM management), and apps constantly reload (RAM man- you know). I love the design and the camera, but holy cow it isn't worth it. I'm waiting until the next set of phones are out in the fall, then I'm switching (probably to the new Moto X).
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I am coming from a s5 and had a m9 for a few weeks that I loved but needed to return due to cracked camera lens so I gave the s6 a try had the s6 for a little over a month and I was feeling the same way about a week or so ago don't know why it took so long to sink in just seems like the os started to get worse over time lag battery life etc, I came close to buying a g4 and thought about selling my s6 online. So I caved in, broke knox, installed rapture rom and now I have been getting around two days on a full charge, I haven't had much time for heavy use this week but its a lot better than having 50% by lunch. I feel that this should hold me off till the sd820 hits the market. I don't think I'll return to samsung anytime after this device. It's just sad that they have teams of people to make a device and a few people on xda can make it run so much better. It almost seems like they are being held back on purpose I guess to get people ready for the s7 next year. Either way if you are stuck with the device then ask yourself if knox is really a big deal, if you are within return policy then send it back! you should be happy with what you pay for.
I know I will root at some point. I'm just holding off for the time being. BTW camera is awesome lol
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I'm considering rooting and trying Rapture 2.1. After 3 months with this phone, I was hoping that the stock ROM would be fine as is. In the past with other ROMs, I've noticed that the stock ROM is decent and the constant flashing of ROMs may not be worth it for me. The laggy experience and the terrible battery life with the current T-Mobile ROM makes me want to root and flash a better ROM.
Any downsides of flashing another ROM besides the following:
1. Losing warranty if you trip KNOX
2. No Samsung Pay functionality when it is released?

New Note 5 Overheating Warning.

Received my new Verizon Note 5 today.Before I could even get my google account setup I get a popup saying closing apps to cool down.Then a this device is shutting down warning.The phone is not even warm to the touch.Chated with Verizon since I billed to my account they wanted me to pay for a new one to be sent out then credit my card back.Told them to call my local store and have a replacement ready in the morning and I would go swap it out.40 mile trip each way.They did give me a credit on my account for the fuel and trouble.
I think I am going to like it if I can get a good one.
I sure hope it was just a faulty unit! Let us know how the new one does, please!
Could you possibly answer a few questions?
Does the Verizon version have the Samsung browser? And how's the back look with the Verizon logo?
And it sounds like a faulty unit..should be fine with a new one.
Did it come with ear buds?
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Rippley05 said:
Could you possibly answer a few questions?
Does the Verizon version have the Samsung browser? And how's the back look with the Verizon logo?
And it sounds like a faulty unit..should be fine with a new one.
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It does come with the Samsung Browser installed by default.
The logo is the same as on the Note 4. I usually cover it up with black tape even though it's behind a case, because it makes me mad when i see it. haha
People and their obsession with the song Verizon logo... Lol. I'll never understand it.
Got mine today as well. Barely gets warm even when gaming while charging.
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Got mine today as well. Barely gets warm even when gaming while charging.
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Is the ram management alright? Open up a heavy website on chrome then Facebook and a game. Can you switch between all 3 without reloading?
I know for sure lg g4 has better ram management than it, but I'm just wondering how bad it is lol. I really want a note =(
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Is the ram management alright? Open up a heavy website on chrome then Facebook and a game. Can you switch between all 3 without reloading?
I know for sure lg g4 has better ram management than it, but I'm just wondering how bad it is lol. I really want a note =(
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The G4 has an entire gig less of RAM. Also, how do you "know for sure" the G4 has better ram management..? That is all on a software/kernel level.
Anyways. I can run Facebook, Chrome with multiple tabs, Fallout Shelter, Trillian, Facebook Messenger with active Chat Heads, weather apps, Z Launcher, various menu pages, the camera running in the background, the stock Launcher running in the background, etc, and I still have almost a gig of RAM free. Everything loads quickly and I can switch back and forth seamlessly without anything needing to reload.
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The G4 has an entire gig less of RAM. Also, how do you "know for sure" the G4 has better ram management..? That is all on a software/kernel level.
Anyways. I can run Facebook, Chrome with multiple tabs, Fallout Shelter, Trillian, Facebook Messenger with active Chat Heads, weather apps, Z Launcher, various menu pages, the camera running in the background, the stock Launcher running in the background, etc, and I still have almost a gig of RAM free. Everything loads quickly and I can switch back and forth seamlessly without anything needing to reload.
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Oh that's great! More than enough for me
And it's because of this video https://youtu.be/_6QSffa9dys
Edit: Going to make a new thread, kind of curious what other people's experiences with this are.
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Oh that's great! More than enough for me
And it's because of this video https://youtu.be/_6QSffa9dys
Edit: Going to make a new thread, kind of curious what other people's experiences with this are.
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Possibly a good idea. I can't say why my experience differs so greatly from his. I can leave everything running overnight and it still all pulls right back up for me no problem. I don't believe I adjusted any settings, and I am still running the same software/OS version it came with NIB. Either way, it is a software/kernel issue. Once we get custom kernels and ROMs that can be adjusted at the press of a toggle, and Sammy will likely send an update to "fix" the issue (put it in quotes because I am not experiencing it myself, and I do not take that one video as proof it is an actual issue).
Note 5 overheating
I had the same problem with my new Note 5 64 gig from Verizon. It came out of the box with approx 35% charge and startup material said to charge to 100% so I plugged it in but only got to 55% before displaying a red exclamation point in a triangle saying it was too hot and wouldn't take any more charge. Red light also flashing. Let it cool down for an hour even though it didnt feel hot and then went through start up procedure but it kept overheating every few minutes, shutting down apps then the entire phone. Did not even feel warm to the touch. I wasnt doing any gaming or even web surfing. I sent maybe 2 simple texts and took one picture and it shut down the text app then the whole phone repeatedly. Spent hours on the phone with Verizon tech who couldn't fix the problem and finally advised me to take it back to the store and they would ship me a new one . Arriving today. Fingers crossed it was just a bad one.
That definitely sounds like a defective phone.
Definitely a faulty unit, I played a couple rounds of VainGlory on the charger last night and it did not even get warm.
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Rippley05 said:
Could you possibly answer a few questions?
Does the Verizon version have the Samsung browser? And how's the back look with the Verizon logo?
And it sounds like a faulty unit..should be fine with a new one.
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It does, and Chrome preinstalled... as for the back, I honestly never looked at it before I threw it in my Tech 21 case lmao, looks great in the case, the only logo that bugs me is the giant samsung above the screen!
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JasonJoel said:
That definitely sounds like a defective phone.
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Indeed it was. New one had zero issues starting up, transferring contacts and media, etc. No overheating issues, thankfully.
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Definitely a faulty unit, I played a couple rounds of VainGlory on the charger last night and it did not even get warm.
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It does, and Chrome preinstalled... as for the back, I honestly never looked at it before I threw it in my Tech 21 case lmao, looks great in the case, the only logo that bugs me is the giant samsung above the screen!
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How smooth is it on max?
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Indeed it was. New one had zero issues starting up, transferring contacts and media, etc. No overheating issues, thankfully.
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Stinks that you had that problem, but cool that the new one works correctly!
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How smooth is it on max?
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VainGlory? It was real smooth, smoother than when I had the iPhone 6+
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VainGlory? It was real smooth, smoother than when I had the iPhone 6+
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good to know! I hope it was max!
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good to know! I hope it was max!
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I always max everything on everything! Lmao, computer ULTRA, Phone whatever the highest is... Everytime, never play less than the best man.

Just jumped to this device......

From this device........
It's on sale for $324 right now and I've been sitting on an available jump. Nothing else I really want or want to spend a ton of money on ATM. I'd like the z5 premium but can't justify the $800 price tag. I mean, I'll get bored of it like every other phone I get. With jump, I never feel like I lose out much.
This is a pretty decent phone and I have like 4 spare batteries and and couple large capacity memory cards. My wife has the v10 and I was gonna get that, but the more I hold it, the less I like it. Heavy and huge feeling. And the speaker is really low compared to this one.
Guess I'm sticking with this for a while. ?
Any others feel the same?
It's a good phone. Battery life is a bit low, and the screen doesn't get as bright or dim as I'd like. But OMG expandable storage and replaceable batteries. And I'd love a bug free AOSP ROM but considering even Nexus devices only occasionally have that I can't complain too much. Gonna be my daily driver for a while.
I brought one for my girlfriend considering the low price, seems like a no brainer.
I bought this device when it first came out came it was a bit of a nightmare with all the touch screen issues. Hopefully a lot of the issues I had are ironed out, but at this low price I can live with some of the issues I dealt with.
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20degrees said:
From this device........
It's on sale for $324 right now and I've been sitting on an available jump. Nothing else I really want or want to spend a ton of money on ATM. I'd like the z5 premium but can't justify the $800 price tag. I mean, I'll get bored of it like every other phone I get. With jump, I never feel like I lose out much.
This is a pretty decent phone and I have like 4 spare batteries and and couple large capacity memory cards. My wife has the v10 and I was gonna get that, but the more I hold it, the less I like it. Heavy and huge feeling. And the speaker is really low compared to this one.
Guess I'm sticking with this for a while. ?
Any others feel the same?
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just did the same thing, shaved 100 bucks on the balance owed, get a new phone and an extra charger and cable. None of the new phones do much for me right now.
Price is back up $399...glad I was able to scoop one up.
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Yea I noticed the price went up. Still a good deal though.
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It's a good phone. Battery life is a bit low, and the screen doesn't get as bright or dim as I'd like. But OMG expandable storage and replaceable batteries. And I'd love a bug free AOSP ROM but considering even Nexus devices only occasionally have that I can't complain too much. Gonna be my daily driver for a while.
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Try lux lite dash, it alot better that lg at managing screen brightness
Damn just got my phone this morning and I can see the touch screen sensitivity issue that plague the original released batches are gone now.
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Damn just got my phone this morning and I can see the touch screen sensitivity issue that plague the original released batches are gone now.
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Can you explain the issue? I just got one and I saw a few times when in chrome it opened some links I'm pretty sure I didn't touch, or barely touched so I'm wondering if it's from that issue.
Issue was typing and such. It would jump and skip and play hopscotch.
It is fixed in newer devices.
Got the new jump device yesterday. Screen seems brighter than the last.
Edited for mis-swipes.
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Can you explain the issue? I just got one and I saw a few times when in chrome it opened some links I'm pretty sure I didn't touch, or barely touched so I'm wondering if it's from that issue.
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The issue was miss-taps and swipes. When you tapped on the screen it wouldn't register or when you swipe to move to the next homepage or anything that requires swipe it would register it as a tap instead of a swipe. It was extremely frustrating and totally ruined experience for me.
I returned several devices and each one had the same issue, I finally gave up and exchanged it for a Note 5.
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Definitely worth it. I had to send it back for touch issues and those were fixed when I got my phone back. Getting ready to test the new MM ROMs & see how those go. First I am testing a debloated minimal ROM, then moving that way if I don't like it.

Worth the Upgrade?

Forgive me members for I have sinned... It's been far too long since I popped a SIM in my OnePlus One
I've been using my iPhone 6+ exclusively for months now for a few reasons I'm hoping to have answered here by real-world users. I'm no stranger to Android, but I have fallen in a bad groove with iOS and just settling :/
I use the camera a lot. Not for anything super special, but I'm able to take FAST photos when I need it. Hit the button, and it's saved and done in under a second. Sharp, accurate... but tiny at 8mp on a 1080p screen. I've looked at samples of the Note 5 camera, and the quality is good, but how is the speed of the stock camera app? I don't want to have to wait 2-4 seconds before I can regain use of the camera again, nor have to wait 2 seconds for it to take a photo.
Is the built-in email worth using? I have gmail for my personal email, but my company is stuck on a 2003 exchange server and I'm forced to use a generic "email" client on phones I switch to. I need to be able to set priority on outgoing, and flag/star emails. (Everything else I need should be baked into any email client at this point... BCC, attachments, custom sig) Not a huge deal if it's not good... I can use CloudMagic if needed.
It's been a while since I even gave a Samsung phone a glance, but last time I did, screen-burning was a big issue... Is this still a problem anymore with the newer screens? I'm a fan of auto-brightness, but I input text a lot, and rarely change keyboards. I don't want to find out in a year that my screen has been burned beyond repair
Any help with these would be greatly appreciated. If I like what i'm hearing, I'll be going to T-Mobile this weekend to pick this up!
Thanks all
Hers is a camera speed and quality comparison between the 6s plus and the Note 5, I would say the camera is fast, probably not that fast as iphone but you will get better quality photos with the Note 5
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Apple-iPhone-6s-Plus-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-Note5_id4095/page/3
As for emails, you can use the built in email client or download any other from the play store that will do more than you want.
I'm not sure about the screen burning but my guess is that it was more of a concern with the unrealistic and inaccurate Amoled popping colors in the previous generations. The first thing I do is that I switch screen mode to basic as it provides accurate colors and I guess will reduce the probability of screen burning.
Hope it helps.
Liskrig said:
Forgive me members for I have sinned... It's been far too long since I popped a SIM in my OnePlus One
I've been using my iPhone 6+ exclusively for months now for a few reasons I'm hoping to have answered here by real-world users. I'm no stranger to Android, but I have fallen in a bad groove with iOS and just settling :/
I use the camera a lot. Not for anything super special, but I'm able to take FAST photos when I need it. Hit the button, and it's saved and done in under a second. Sharp, accurate... but tiny at 8mp on a 1080p screen. I've looked at samples of the Note 5 camera, and the quality is good, but how is the speed of the stock camera app? I don't want to have to wait 2-4 seconds before I can regain use of the camera again, nor have to wait 2 seconds for it to take a photo.
Is the built-in email worth using? I have gmail for my personal email, but my company is stuck on a 2003 exchange server and I'm forced to use a generic "email" client on phones I switch to. I need to be able to set priority on outgoing, and flag/star emails. (Everything else I need should be baked into any email client at this point... BCC, attachments, custom sig) Not a huge deal if it's not good... I can use CloudMagic if needed.
It's been a while since I even gave a Samsung phone a glance, but last time I did, screen-burning was a big issue... Is this still a problem anymore with the newer screens? I'm a fan of auto-brightness, but I input text a lot, and rarely change keyboards. I don't want to find out in a year that my screen has been burned beyond repair
Any help with these would be greatly appreciated. If I like what i'm hearing, I'll be going to T-Mobile this weekend to pick this up!
Thanks all
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You'll be happy with a Note 5 honestly. In terms of the camera, I take rapid photos with mine all the time without issues. There's also a double tap home button function that takes maybe 1.5 seconds to pull the camera up and focus from any screen, even when the screen is turned off. My wife loves using my Note 5 for pictures over her LG G4.
Screen burn in hasn't been a thing for quite some time now. There is however, still the issue of shading that occurs on all AMOLED displays when on dark images, or scrolling a dark Web page. I think the Note 5 and S6 do the best to avoid that issue, but it does happen slightly. It's just not as visible.
Auto brightness is awesome on the Note 5 as well. There's an "over bright" function that kicks in automatically when the sun shines directly on the screen, or when you're in a very bright area (outside). It's awesome, and to me, can be a little overkill even in direct sunlight. Lol. It's a great feature though.
No SD like iPhone, but that's not an issue as we have cloud storage for dayz! Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox.....it goes on.
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Jammol said:
You'll be happy with a Note 5 honestly. In terms of the camera, I take rapid photos with mine all the time without issues. There's also a double tap home button function that takes maybe 1.5 seconds to pull the camera up and focus from any screen, even when the screen is turned off. My wife loves using my Note 5 for pictures over her LG G4.
Screen burn in hasn't been a thing for quite some time now. There is however, still the issue of shading that occurs on all AMOLED displays when on dark images, or scrolling a dark Web page. I think the Note 5 and S6 do the best to avoid that issue, but it does happen slightly. It's just not as visible.
Auto brightness is awesome on the Note 5 as well. There's an "over bright" function that kicks in automatically when the sun shines directly on the screen, or when you're in a very bright area (outside). It's awesome, and to me, can be a little overkill even in direct sunlight. Lol. It's a great feature though.
No SD like iPhone, but that's not an issue as we have cloud storage for dayz! Microsoft OneDrive, Google Drive, Dropbox.....it goes on.
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I appreciate the detailed reply! As you can see from my phones I currently have, I personally don't care about SD storage, and I haven't had a phone with a removable battery since the Galaxy Nexus so I've learned to deal. I checked out the link that @samitro provided, and the difference of 1.93 to 2.1 seconds is all the change I will be experiencing... So basically, it will be the same as far as I am used to
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I appreciate the detailed reply! As you can see from my phones I currently have, I personally don't care about SD storage, and I haven't had a phone with a removable battery since the Galaxy Nexus so I've learned to deal. I checked out the link that @samitro provided, and the difference of 1.93 to 2.1 seconds is all the change I will be experiencing... So basically, it will be the same as far as I am used to
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Good to hear. Glad we were able to help. Will you be rooting it and such when you get one?
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Good to hear. Glad we were able to help. Will you be rooting it and such when you get one?
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Depends... I'm jumping to T-Mobile when I get it, but I have a weird process when I root a phone.
Usually I will go 100% lock & stock UNTIL I find something that I just can't stand (bloat, battery, audio) but if I do root, I look for a stock ROM (or just keep the stock one) and modify it on the phone to remedy the issues I find. I haven't owned a Samsung since the Galaxy Nexus (not really a Samsung phone) and what I am reading about KNOX kinda scares me lol. T-Mobile doesn't really have too much junk on their carrier phones, but it is still there, and it still bugs me. I'm kinda worried about battery life, but I have read a lot here about how to save it sans root access.
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Depends... I'm jumping to T-Mobile when I get it, but I have a weird process when I root a phone.
Usually I will go 100% lock & stock UNTIL I find something that I just can't stand (bloat, battery, audio) but if I do root, I look for a stock ROM (or just keep the stock one) and modify it on the phone to remedy the issues I find. I haven't owned a Samsung since the Galaxy Nexus (not really a Samsung phone) and what I am reading about KNOX kinda scares me lol. T-Mobile doesn't really have too much junk on their carrier phones, but it is still there, and it still bugs me. I'm kinda worried about battery life, but I have read a lot here about how to save it sans root access.
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I like your system. That's the one I use personally as well. I will say that the one thing that will be annoying really quickly is the T-Mobile system app/process adapt.app. It's what they use to root checking or any kind of custom modification of the device. Even when you're not modified though, it'll sit there and pull root access and constantly scan your device, sucking up battery. It's more invasive now on the newest LP build, and on the MM beta that was leaked.
Don't worry about battery on the Note 5. It is surprisingly really good what they were able to pull off on only 3000mAh. You can pretty much freeze most bloat even without root. There's also a thread here for debloating without root using a script that goes undetected.
As far as knox is concerned. Don't root if you plan on using Samsung Pay. Once you modify the kernel, or root the device, the efuse is blown and your knox counter will forever be tripped. Even though you can go back to pure stock, knox will still be tripped and Samsung Pay will never work. There is NO work around.
I love the Note 5. I was skeptical about it because I had a Note 4, but I am glad I got it. It is an upgrade for me over the Note 4. I'll say the one thing I don't like about the Note 5, is that it's not very hand friendly at night when you're on the phone laying in bed, lol.
Awesome camera, fast, no lag... But, full of bloat, unknown battery drain, less settings about some properties!
worth to upgrade?
From Note 2 - No
From Note 3 - Buy a note 2!
From note 4 - Wait for note 6!
From iphone- At least i can flash custom rom and kernel! but it is not an upgrade huh??!
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Awesome camera, fast, no lag... But, full of bloat, unknown battery drain, less settings about some properties!
worth to upgrade?
From Note 2 - No
From Note 3 - Buy a note 2!
From note 4 - Wait for note 6!
From iphone- At least i can flash custom rom and kernel! but it is not an upgrade huh??!
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I appreciate the reply, but I don't think I could go back to a 2012 phone for my needs I'm glad you found a device that is working for you though
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I appreciate the reply, but I don't think I could go back to a 2012 phone for my needs I'm glad you found a device that is working for you though
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Actually i have a note 5 and i am a tired user who wait for marshmallow update. Hi five samsung!!!
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Actually i have a note 5 and i am a tired user who wait for marshmallow update. Hi five samsung!!!
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Yeah, Marshmallow is nice. I got the OTA from Google for my Nexus 5 and I really enjoyed it. Hopefully Samsung will be open to using a lot of the features already present instead of baking them out.

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