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I've just bought a AT&T HD7S off ebay from a US seller and I'm in the UK. It's not until just now that I considered how it might perform in the UK. I see that the AT&T HD7S lists HSDPA: 850/1900 MHz as its 3g frequencies, while the UK HD7 lists HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz. Does this mean I won't be able to get 3g signal on UK networks? Does anybody have experience using a AT&T HD7S in the UK?
The HTC Help & How To page lists the following:
What bands does my device support?
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSDPA/UMTS: 850/1900/1700(AWS)/1900/2100 MHz
But the Tech Specs page shows this:
UMTS: 1900/850
GSM/GPRS/AT&T: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
So I wonder if the phone actually supports 2100 MHz
And if so, since O2 HSDPA/3G in the UK runs on 900/2100 does this mean that the phone will still get 3G on 2100 MHz, but won't benefit from the 900 MHz band which enables coverage in harder to reach locations.
Secondly, should I only flash AT&T Radios on to this phone or can I flash the Europe modem found here forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_HD7/Radios ? Might doing so enable the 2100 MHz band which isn't used by AT&T ?
farooknaji said:
I've just bought a AT&T HD7S off ebay from a US seller and I'm in the UK. It's not until just now that I considered how it might perform in the UK. I see that the AT&T HD7S lists HSDPA: 850/1900 MHz as its 3g frequencies, while the UK HD7 lists HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz. Does this mean I won't be able to get 3g signal on UK networks? Does anybody have experience using a AT&T HD7S in the UK?
The HTC Help & How To page lists the following:
What bands does my device support?
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSDPA/UMTS: 850/1900/1700(AWS)/1900/2100 MHz
But the Tech Specs page shows this:
UMTS: 1900/850
GSM/GPRS/AT&T: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
So I wonder if the phone actually supports 2100 MHz
And if so, since O2 HSDPA/3G in the UK runs on 900/2100 does this mean that the phone will still get 3G on 2100 MHz, but won't benefit from the 900 MHz band which enables coverage in harder to reach locations.
Secondly, should I only flash AT&T Radios on to this phone or can I flash the Europe modem found here forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_HD7/Radios ? Might doing so enable the 2100 MHz band which isn't used by AT&T ?
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I got mine off ebay too (HD7S AT&T), did u manage to get the 3G working ? Please help me. Have you flashed the Euro radio ?
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UMTS: 1900/850
GSM/GPRS/AT&T: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
These are the correct specs.... because there's no 2100MHz band for GSM, the 2100MHz is used by CDMA networks.
Hi looking to purchase the HTC ONE International Version M7 and want to use it in South Korea and wondering if it will work? Either 3g or 4g LTE
Here is the bands for the International Version
Band GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) WCDMA (UMTS)/HSPA 850/900/1900/2100
And the bands available to be as im on SK Telecom
850mhz lte
1800mhz lte
2100 UMTS/HSPA
I'm guessing that the 1800 and 2100 mhz bands overlap I should probably have both access to 3g and 4g lte?
Thanks so much guys!
850Mhz is SKT's main frequency and 1800Mhz is their secondary frequency which is so-called 'multi-carrier.' Even if that multi-carrier frequency overlaps the HSDPA frequency in One's spec, SK Telecom's HSDPA signal only comes from 2100Mhz band, and you don't have to worry. However, I have to warn you - If you buy 801s model, you can use LTE in those 'multi-carrier' zones that are smaller than its main band area. Even if multi-carrier zone is being expanded, SKT's main band is the only band provided in majority of areas.
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Hello! I want to buy a HTC One from ebay and use it in Europe. Until now, when I bought from US, I chose either unlocked or from AT&T. Now, I'm not sure if there are any differences between US HTC One models. So, can anybody tell me if the One from Sprint would work in Europe? Ok. I've found out that the 2G bands would work after unlocking, but what about 3G and 4G? Thanks!
Check with your carrier and then compare the specs between the US and EU Ones to see which bands match up. I know in my case that Three UK would work for 3G using a DE One as Three use the 2100MHz band
EddyOS said:
Check with your carrier and then compare the specs between the US and EU Ones to see which bands match up. I know in my case that Three UK would work for 3G using a DE One as Three use the 2100MHz band
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Phonearena shows that 2G and 3G are the same for all models, but for 4G it shows this:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600
LTE 1800 / 2600
LTE 1900 - for Sprint
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - for AT&T
LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100 - for T-Mobile
What does this mean? Does this mean that ALL HTC One phones have LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600? Why the next line says only LTE 1800 / 2600? Also, for example Sprint have LTE 1900, but also the other ones from above? I hope you can tell me this. Thank you!
PS: I need 800/900/1800/2600.
What SIM card are you putting going to use, e.g. from what carrier (Vodafone??)? Then compare their 2/3/4G bands and then check the specs for the different Ones available and see which is best for you (which is what I said before - it's not hard to understand)
EddyOS said:
What SIM card are you putting going to use, e.g. from what carrier (Vodafone??)? Then compare their 2/3/4G bands and then check the specs for the different Ones available and see which is best for you (which is what I said before - it's not hard to understand)
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Maybe my english was not so good, but I'm not so stupid as you think. I know that I must compare their bands, but I don't know what are the specs for those phones. This is the reason why I wrote what gsmarena says about this phone. I think you didn't really read my previous post. I didn't find anywhere what are the bands for those models. I cannot explain better than in previous post.
OK, this is taken from HTCs website:
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps <--- This is the EU handset, 801n (m7_ul)
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps <--- This is the Asian handset, 801s (m7_ul) (probably)
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps <--- This is the North American GSM handset, 801n (m7_wlj or m7_wlv)
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps <--- This is the T- Mobile handset, 801n (m7_wlj or m7_wlv)
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps <--- This is the AT&T handset, 801n (m7_wlj or m7_wlv))
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps <--- This is the Sprint handset, 801c (m7_wls)
So, you check what 3G band you network uses and see which phones support it
beny2 said:
Hello! I want to buy a HTC One from ebay and use it in Europe. Until now, when I bought from US, I chose either unlocked or from AT&T. Now, I'm not sure if there are any differences between US HTC One models. So, can anybody tell me if the One from Sprint would work in Europe? Ok. I've found out that the 2G bands would work after unlocking, but what about 3G and 4G? Thanks!
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Helloknow of any one rom for htc sprint m7 801c work with all these bands 2G Network GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G Network HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100
4G Network LTE 800/1800/2600
LTE 1800/2600 just bought one and I'm crazy for making it work in Spain. thank you very much.
jjfmsn said:
Helloknow of any one rom for htc sprint m7 801c work with all these bands 2G Network GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G Network HSDPA 850/900/1900/2100
4G Network LTE 800/1800/2600
LTE 1800/2600 just bought one and I'm crazy for making it work in Spain. thank you very much.
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Here is a datasheet on the Sprint HTC One. The operating bands are not rom dependent, it is the built in radio hardware. Check the datasheet if the bands you need are supported then it will work with any rom.
I got this as a gift for my daughter and now all I get on TMO is 3G Edge. I am in Maryland, USA. I thought this thing was supposed to support a bunch of LTE bands but I don't see many matches for either TMO or AT&T. I've tried various APN settings to no avail. Someone suggested flashing a new modem to unlock the 1700 band but I cannot find anything on that either. Am I stuck with a 2G BRICK??????
Please help!
Chris R.
Stay close to WiFi! I'm afraid that you may have yourself a '2G brick'. It would appear that T-Mobile in the US use the following frequencies:
LTE Frequencies (FDD LTE, not TDD LTE)
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
Lower 700 MHz band 12 (in development)
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA)
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE)
1900 MHz PCS band 2
The only band from this list that the M2 supports is 2G 1900 MHz. The 1700 MHz & 2100 MHz band is an upload/download pair and is different from the 2100 MHz band used in Europe (the one the M2 supports), which is actually a 1900/2100 up/down pair. I'm fairly sure that frequency support is a hardware thing, it's not possible to change supported bands by flashing a new radio module.
It's unfortunate for those of you in the US that Chinese phone manufacturers seem to favour the EU, rather than US, frequencies.
Thank you!!!!!
RMcT said:
Stay close to WiFi! I'm afraid that you may have yourself a '2G brick'. It would appear that T-Mobile in the US use the following frequencies:
LTE Frequencies (FDD LTE, not TDD LTE)
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
Lower 700 MHz band 12 (in development)
3G/4G Frequencies (WCDMA)
1700 MHz & 2100 MHz AWS band 4
1900 MHz PCS band 2 (in refarmed areas)
2G Frequencies (GSM/GPRS/EDGE)
1900 MHz PCS band 2
The only band from this list that the M2 supports is 2G 1900 MHz. The 1700 MHz & 2100 MHz band is an upload/download pair and is different from the 2100 MHz band used in Europe (the one the M2 supports), which is actually a 1900/2100 up/down pair. I'm fairly sure that frequency support is a hardware thing, it's not possible to change supported bands by flashing a new radio module.
It's unfortunate for those of you in the US that Chinese phone manufacturers seem to favour the EU, rather than US, frequencies.
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Thank you for your brilliant and most useful reply!!! Much appreciated! The M2 is now for sale up on Ebay and I just bought a Cube T8 Plus tablet that has phenomenal specs but it too has the wrong frequency support so I'm about to put that up on eBay as well. Thanks again!
I wanted to get the t-mobile version and use it on AT&T. Does anyone know if I will have trouble unlocking it or have any issues using it on AT&T network. I have unlimited data so I want to be able use hotspot option. Also, the box is hideous on AT&T.
My understanding is that all carriers got the same variant. Should have no issues, except maybe Wi-Fi calling being weird.
dont do it.
The tmobile and att use different brands so while it will work on the network the internet will be slower.
unless this has change but from what it has always been is the network brands where different and some people where not able to get 4g lte
xile6 said:
dont do it.
The tmobile and att use different brands so while it will work on the network the internet will be slower.
unless this has change but from what it has always been is the network brands where different and some people where not able to get 4g lte
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I think they all have the same exact hardware. Someone on the Verizon forum took a Verizon phone and flashed the T-mobile firmware and it works perfectly. (I may have those carriers mixed up but you get the idea)
seh6183 said:
I think they all have the same exact hardware. Someone on the Verizon forum took a Verizon phone and flashed the T-mobile firmware and it works perfectly. (I may have those carriers mixed up but you get the idea)
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No no firmware is software base.
Im talking about network mhz Frequency.
If i remember right tmobile was 900mhz 1800mhz and 1900mhz
And att was 850mhz 1700 and 1900.
They used different bands for internet. So must people who switch couldnt get 4g internet.
xile6 said:
No no firmware is software base.
Im talking about network mhz Frequency.
If i remember right tmobile was 900mhz 1800mhz and 1900mhz
And att was 850mhz 1700 and 1900.
They used different bands for internet. So must people who switch couldnt get 4g internet.
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I understand thank you. And what I am saying is I think they all have the same bands/hardware and just need a flash to unlock it all. Aka the pit file and bootloader.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/help/lte-bands-n930v-att-t-mobile-lte-t3443373
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Always been different for as long as o can remember
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=5264
Taken from there
LTE (4G)
band 1 / 2100 MHz IMT (Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, Brazil, India, Israel)
band 2 / 1900 MHz PCS (Americas)
band 3 / 1800 MHz DCS (Europe, Asia, Africa)
band 4 / 1700 MHz AWS (Americas)
band 5 / 850 MHz Cellular (Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel)
band 7 / 2600 MHz IMT-E (Canada, South America, Europe, Asia)
band 8 / 900 MHz (Europe, Asia, Africa)
band 12 / 700 MHz Lower 700 (USA (AT&T, T-Mobile, regional))
band 13 / 750 MHz Upper 700 (USA (Verizon))
band 20 / 800 MHz EU Digital Dividend (Europe)
band 25 / 1900 MHz PCS+G (USA (Sprint))
band 26 / 850 MHz Extended Cellular (USA (Sprint))
band 29 / 700 MHz Lower 700 (USA (AT&T))
band 30 / 2300 MHz WCS (Americas (AT&T))
band 40 / 2300 MHz (Asia, Africa, Oceana)
band 41 / 2500 MHz BRS / EBS (USA (Sprint))
xile6 said:
Always been different for as long as o can remember
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=5264
Taken from there
LTE (4G)
band 1 / 2100 MHz IMT (Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, Brazil, India, Israel)
band 2 / 1900 MHz PCS (Americas)
band 3 / 1800 MHz DCS (Europe, Asia, Africa)
band 4 / 1700 MHz AWS (Americas)
band 5 / 850 MHz Cellular (Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel)
band 7 / 2600 MHz IMT-E (Canada, South America, Europe, Asia)
band 8 / 900 MHz (Europe, Asia, Africa)
band 12 / 700 MHz Lower 700 (USA (AT&T, T-Mobile, regional))
band 13 / 750 MHz Upper 700 (USA (Verizon))
band 20 / 800 MHz EU Digital Dividend (Europe)
band 25 / 1900 MHz PCS+G (USA (Sprint))
band 26 / 850 MHz Extended Cellular (USA (Sprint))
band 29 / 700 MHz Lower 700 (USA (AT&T))
band 30 / 2300 MHz WCS (Americas (AT&T))
band 40 / 2300 MHz (Asia, Africa, Oceana)
band 41 / 2500 MHz BRS / EBS (USA (Sprint))
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Please read my previous post carefully and then click the link I provided. I am not arguing that the carriers use different bands.
Yea my bad didnt see the link you posted. But yea of the phonne has them build in just turn off that will work.
Before the phnes themself didnt have the bands
I have unlocked (SIM) my note 7 and it works great on AT&T. I tried a Sprint SIM and it wouldn't work. I even went to Sprint store and they tried to enter the IMEI in their system as a BYOD. Didn't work even after they tried adding it through their CS Techs on the phone. The T-Mobile version does not have the CDMA radios active. I haven't tried to flash it to Sprint to see if the Sprint ROM would enable the CDMA radio.
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I have unlocked (SIM) my note 7 and it works great on AT&T. I tried a Sprint SIM and it wouldn't work. I even went to Sprint store and they tried to enter the IMEI in their system as a BYOD. Didn't work even after they tried adding it through their CS Techs on the phone. The T-Mobile version does not have the CDMA radios active. I haven't tried to flash it to Sprint to see if the Sprint ROM would enable the CDMA radio.
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You should try. Apparently it will work.
AUSTIN3:16 said:
I have unlocked (SIM) my note 7 and it works great on AT&T. I tried a Sprint SIM and it wouldn't work. I even went to Sprint store and they tried to enter the IMEI in their system as a BYOD. Didn't work even after they tried adding it through their CS Techs on the phone. The T-Mobile version does not have the CDMA radios active. I haven't tried to flash it to Sprint to see if the Sprint ROM would enable the CDMA radio.
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Awesome! How did you unlock it so soon? I thought t-mobile policy is to wait for 45 days
Can you flash non native ROM with locked bootloader? or is it just flashing modem ok?
So when the unlocked sm-n930u version is released, will we be able to flash that firmware on our phones? Allowing us to remove all the carrier bloatware that was installed.
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I have a tmobile n5 on att, i see it go through 2,4,12,17 att lte band with the stock tmo modem. 2,4,5,17 are the main att lte bands
Tmo version on att
I have tmo version, sim unlocked using DoctorSim and use on att with lte. No problems