[Q] Bright sunlight? - LG Watch Urbane

Howdy...
I love this watch (had it 2 days now)... but many reviews I've read say 'reading even in direct sunlight'...
So, I have the screen cranked to full brightness, and I find it hard to read in the sunlight, even with no sunglasses on... The 'ambient' screen is barely visible, and the fully activated screen is not much better...
Am I doing something wrong here? Why are reviewers saying 'perfect in bright sulight' and I can barely read it...?
Thanks!
Best,
Ben

Well it has been overcast here last few days so cant really comment too much.. but the couple of times the sun was out it did wash out and made the display a little bit hard to see... my brightness was set to 4. There is a "brightness boost" in the pull down menu .. have you tried that?

You can download apps for brightness boosting but I doubt it would help

You know, I haven't tried the brightness boost, mostly because it seems like too much work to get to it if I just want to glance at the watch to know the time and such...
Best,
Ben

Yes exactly, the boost is too much effort for its intended purpose when you can simply cup your other hand over the watch in a fraction of the time but I would go further, the feature has a ball dropping feel to me. Shouldn't someone have figured out that having the solution to not being able to see the screen be nested multiple screens into the on screen menu system of the screen you cant see as being a bad idea? I would like to see the boost attached to something like a triple tap. As to it working in bright sunlight flawlessly I would say no but I've not had any device that ever did and wasn't expecting it to be visible in the brightest sunlight. I would say it can be seen in most sunlit situations in "on" configuraton and that compared to similar devices it is relatively good.

krabman said:
Yes exactly, the boost is too much effort for its intended purpose when you can simply cup your other hand over the watch in a fraction of the time but I would go further, the feature has a ball dropping feel to me. Shouldn't someone have figured out that having the solution to not being able to see the screen be nested multiple screens into the on screen menu system of the screen you cant see as being a bad idea? I would like to see the boost attached to something like a triple tap. As to it working in bright sunlight flawlessly I would say no but I've not had any device that ever did and wasn't expecting it to be visible in the brightest sunlight. I would say it can be seen in most sunlit situations in "on" configuraton and that compared to similar devices it is relatively good.
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Triple press the button
Double press will toggle Theater mode, by the way

reycat said:
Triple press the button
Double press will toggle Theater mode, by the way
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SUPER HELPFUL TIP! :highfive:
Where did you find these?
ANymore?

fantastic tip!!!

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Triple press the button
Double press will toggle Theater mode, by the way
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Ah, thanks. It never occured to me to try multiple actions on the crown.

These shortcuts first appeared with the Android Wear update in December.
Before that long pressing the button would take you to the settings (this keeps working)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...watchs-button-activate-theatre-sunlight-mode/

holy crap I never knew there were shortcuts with pressing the crown!
Thank you!!

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[Help] [MOD] Button lights lit longer

Hello, would it be possible for someone to write or modify _code to allow the four buttons to either stay on longer when activated or even always on when the screen is.
Thanks
Matt
People have been working on that since release to no avail :-(
Hmmm that's really disappointing. Thanks for your fast re
ply.
Np, the best advice I can give you and its what most people have done is just learn where the buttons are in the dark. After a week or so it won't be such a problem I promise
I'm not sure how useful this is, but Sprint told one of the tech blogs (I forget which) in correspendence that on the Epic 4G that the setting that controls the backlighting on the slide out QWERTY will also affect the soft buttons. So maybe once those start making it into our hands we'll find out how it's done and implement it on the other Galaxy S handsets.
i would want them lit for as long as the screen was on, having it on longer wouldnt be good enough.
thatg said:
i would want them lit for as long as the screen was on, having it on longer wouldnt be good enough.
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Yes. Same here! I can't stand when I use gps at night and I can't see the buttons.
thatg said:
i would want them lit for as long as the screen was on, having it on longer wouldnt be good enough.
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QFT... It's stupid having them on a different timer than the "backlight".
TexUs said:
QFT... It's stupid having them on a different timer than the "backlight".
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Apparently the Samsung Epic's button lights stay on for the duration that the screen is on. Once the Epic firmware is released I'm sure the devs will find the files.
i usually just touch any where/move finger on the screen and the buttons just light up
hussainfatal said:
i usually just touch any where/move finger on the screen and the buttons just light up
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That and you memorize where they are at after some time. I 100% understand, it's not a huge deal after awhile but it's still a short sight.
TexUs said:
That and you memorize where they are at after some time. I 100% understand, it's not a huge deal after awhile but it's still a short sight.
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The Samsung guy demoing Media Hub even has trouble hitting one of the soft keys - though it does look like the keys stay lit longer on the Epic.
At about 1:35 he tries a couple times, and then has to tilt the phone to see the button.
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-demos-samsungs-galaxy-s-media-hub
Man, I wish this problem was solved. For me, it's the most annoying thing (really the only annoying thing) about this phone. Yeah, by now I've pretty much memorized where the buttons are, but 1 in 5 times I miss-hit one of the bottom buttons because they don't stay lit. If they were lit as long as the screen was lit, I would never miss-hit them.

movement to wake the watch

So I have the watch now for more than a week and I love it. One thing I hate though is that weird movement to wake the screen to check the time. It works in 75% of the time but 25% of the time it just doesn't work. And if it doesn't work, a repetition of the movement can result in a constant fail to wake the watch. In those cases it would be great to have a "fall back" or "backup" movement. For example turning your wrist a few times very fast.
Or are there some good tips to reduce the 25% fail ratio?
appelflap said:
So I have the watch now for more than a week and I love it. One thing I hate though is that weird movement to wake the screen to check the time. It works in 75% of the time but 25% of the time it just doesn't work. And if it doesn't work, a repetition of the movement can result in a constant fail to wake the watch. In those cases it would be great to have a "fall back" or "backup" movement. For example turning your wrist a few times very fast.
Or are there some good tips to reduce the 25% fail ratio?
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some here
Mine wakes 95% of the time iiiffff i turn it at a slow pace. pebbles quick jerk wake up makes more sense. I dont like it because its not natural to slowly rotate your wrist to check the time.
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More importantly where do we think the gesture would be stored ? In what APK..
Surely we can adjust the sensitivity..
fOmey said:
More importantly where do we think the gesture would be stored ? In what APK..
Surely we can adjust the sensitivity..
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Yep yep was also thinking about this. But I bet that it is hard coded in the kernel. Nevertheless definitely going to do some research to see if some parameters can be changed. Time to flash your Rom
A double tap on the screen would be excellent.
I've found that you can move your wrist as fast or slow as you want, but you have to hold it toward your face a second or two and it will come on.
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Or, you know, there's that big button on the side of watch for exactly this purpose...
JDV28 said:
Or, you know, there's that big button on the side of watch for exactly this purpose...
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I know.
It's got to be the rolling motion when the watch is oriented like you are holding a steering wheel. Look how much the watch turns on when driving.
The problem I have, is not only does the default not always wake the watch when you want to, it often wakes it when you don't mean to. I see it on a lot when I'm driving, or at the gym. Seems like a waste of battery power. Ideally, they'd have a variety of different motions and methods you could choose from to wake it, and even a allow a combination of them to reduce false positives (like a quick jerk then rotate).
dscline said:
The problem I have, is not only does the default not always wake the watch when you want to, it often wakes it when you don't mean to. I see it on a lot when I'm driving, or at the gym. Seems like a waste of battery power. Ideally, they'd have a variety of different motions and methods you could choose from to wake it, and even a allow a combination of them to reduce false positives (like a quick jerk then rotate).
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It would be great if Samsung would implement some kind of learning algorithm. Shouldn't be that difficult.
mhoepfin said:
It's got to be the rolling motion when the watch is oriented like you are holding a steering wheel. Look how much the watch turns on when driving.
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In the log they call the movement WRIST_MOVEMENT_UP. I believe it actually tries to simulate the movement of turning the watch to your eyes.
The question is very good.. For me 75% times work other part no
The movement to wake up gear i think is up-turn... But not always ok.... This must improve.. Because not is more ridiculous look your black watch....and than stay trainyng on the display....and sony has already took this... In the pub of her sw2...
If you raise your arm and turn it works every time
it's painful. sometimes it works, sometimes not.
i wish they enabled tap twice to wake though. pressing the button on the side is not always convenient.

Button-less Wake!

The main defect with the Note 3 is that it requires a button-press to wake-up.
Let this thread be a collective bounty of alternative solutions until we can Slide2Wake which requires kernal changes and AT&T to unlock the bootloader.
Sign this petition in the meantime while you read on:
http://www.change.org/petitions/at-t-unlock-our-samsung-galaxy-note-3-bootloader
Working solutions:
-Use a proximity sensor app (very hit and miss) (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.omd.autoscreenon&hl=en)
-Use the S View cover (also hit and miss and unpreferred by many)
Any other solutions please add!
Why would you want a huge wake lock like that? A simple press of the home button is much easier IMHO. I'd rather not have to swipe across the screen to turn the screen on
RErick said:
Why would you want a huge wake lock like that? A simple press of the home button is much easier IMHO. I'd rather not have to swipe across the screen to turn the screen on
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You're right. It's a considerable battery drain. The surprising thing is.. in the end, the smoothness of button-free operation becomes *worth it* IMHO.
I turn my phone on and off a lot to check stuff. I'll look at my to do list then press the corner SwipePad shortcut to turn it off. Then I'll remember something while moving up a bit in the line and **without even looking down for a button** and half-entranced in contemplation still I'll swipe from one side of the phone to halfway to the other and it is ON by the split second both my hands hold it to to make a note or reminder, look up something, etc. after which i'll immediately press the corner shortcut again to turn it off and my phone stays in one hand while I people-watch.
For some reason this is much more relaxed and makes me feel like the phone is like a second brain where I don't even need to create mnemonic devices called loci as much like I used to.
Maybe that's what's making my memory kind of crappy. Maybe should go back to doing that for my to-do lists. Might improve my memory. ANYWAY. my point is:
(1) it's less mechanical effort to swipe and
(2) I like to save my buttons and don't want to eventually have to replace the home button on the Note 3 for like $50 or whatever.
I guess it's not that big a deal.
If I did have that feature though I wouldn't miss anything else from past phones especially since the Note 3 is big enough to fit in one hand BARELY and could do a HALF-swipe to wake feature.
**pretends to do it now**
I'm crazy.
I would like a solution to this as well. Tried the light sensor app but that wasnt working well. Really wish we had tap-on.
I really like not hitting any physical buttons because this phone is huge and unwieldy. Still love it though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spazedog.xposed.additionsgb
I assigned the power button to holding down the back button. That saves a little bit of button-life.
The app also is designed to support the same while the screen is off... but it doesn't seem to work yet.
Would be super awesome though to be able to turn the screen off and on while the back button is held. Just not there yet.
Screen on with swipe is the next best.. though much more battery intensive.
Has anyone just simply tried pressing the simple wake button on the side of the phone once? I mean you already have your hand on it most of the time since it is where your fingers are if you are holding the phone in one hand.
Also for you slider guys, it takes many more muscles to frown and it is the same to slide. Much better to smile and press one single button already under your thumb when you are holding the phone.
Solarenemy68 said:
Has anyone just simply tried pressing the simple wake button on the side of the phone once? I mean you already have your hand on it most of the time since it is where your fingers are if you are holding the phone in one hand.
Also for you slider guys, it takes many more muscles to frown and it is the same to slide. Much better to smile and press one single button already under your thumb when you are holding the phone.
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Congratulations Captain Obvious. You are the first person to ever think of that!
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Read above about my experience with button-less waking in the SGS2.
Besides that, you're wrong, my thumb is actually closer to the screen than the power button when I am holding it.
And it's no effort at all. That's the whole point. It's the same slide necessary in receiving a call. No physical PUSHING required.
I can turn my phone on twice per second easily by linking one of the touch buttons to "power" as well. With zero concern for screwing up any physical buttons.
Anyway please only write in this thread if you have something that will contribute to the idea of "button-less wake"
I'm only looking for creating solutions to that.
megamorphg said:
I can turn my phone on twice per second easily by linking one of the touch buttons to "power" as well. With zero concern for screwing up any physical buttons.
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Well it looks like you've solved your own problem right? So should this be closed? I'll answer my own question, yes
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Roundtableprez said:
Well it looks like you've solved your own problem right? So should this be closed? I'll answer my own question, yes
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I'm talking about my SGS2 (last phone).
If Note 3 has a button-less wake feature then can close this.
I think that won't happen till ATT lifts the lock tho..
Best buttonless Wake Achieved
S View cover
P.s.: for those who prefer a different case: just wait till bootloader is unlocked > kernel unlocked > slide function can be made.
thread closed.

Touch Screen Sensitivity...

Anyone else having problems with the sensitivity on fast scrolling? Seems to not be as smooth or compared to the iPhone 6 and HTC One M8 I have been playing with...It's almost too sensitive or something, I can't quite put my finger on it.
Do you mean the effect where things sometimes bounce back while scrolling?
degraaff said:
Do you mean the effect where things sometimes bounce back while scrolling?
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Basically, yes...Have you noticed this too?
y2jdmbfan said:
I can't quite put my finger on it.
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y2jdmbfan said:
Basically, yes...Have you noticed this too?
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There is an earlier topic about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/swipe-issues-t2888154
The phone has an extra-sensitive touch screen because it has a "glove mode", and I'm thinking the effect of the technology for that glove mode isn't completely suppressed when the glove mode is disabled, so the touch screen would still be slightly more sensitive than those of other phones, even when glove mode is disabled.
If glove mode is enabled, the touch screen is so incredibly sensitive that without gloves, it will register a touch when you hover your finger about a millimetre above the touch screen.
I found that for me it helps to use "lighter" and shorter swipes. Also after a swipe lifting my finger a bit higher off the screen than I was used to.
Some people might always have been doing shorter and lighter swipes, hence not everyone is experiencing the problem. It's also been said on the Xperia support forum that not all units use the same glass for the front; some use "gorilla glass", others use "dragontrail" glass. That could also be influencing the touch screen sensitivity/behaviour.
I've adjusted my swiping habits relatively quickly and now I get the bounce back effect only once in a while.
I do hope that Sony comes with a firmware fix to compensate for the over-sensitivity though.
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hi, is it normal? happen to my unit also.. quite annoying i can tell.. different with my TX..
Go into developer options and enable "Show touches", perhaps touch the screen a few times then turn off show touches.
Sorts it out for me! I was having a nightmare swiping down to select words in Fleksy.
This workaround will do for me until Sony fix it properly!
LadFromWales85 said:
Go into developer options and enable "Show touches", perhaps touch the screen a few times then turn off show touches.
Sorts it out for me! I was having a nightmare swiping down to select words in Fleksy.
This workaround will do for me until Sony fix it properly!
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I really wish there was a way to turn down the sensitivity. During typing, I frequently have screen presses register as very short swipes, which is incredibly irritating, as I then have to backspace and delete two words.
Not really helping you, but this shows how sensitive the z3c display is:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBE0I2zSfcs
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Not really helping you, but this shows how sensitive the z3c display is:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBE0I2zSfcs
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Touch screens usually respond to metal. The screen of my Z2 tablet does.
My screen is so sensitive I can operate it using my leg... through the pocket. I saw in Z1 and Z2 threads that there is a config file that can be adjusted, however I'd have to root in order to do that, and I don't want to risk losing my warranty (esp. not when reading about glass breaking by itself).
It's not a massive problem -- all it takes is switching off "double tap to wake" and camera launch button. But those are features that are useful. On the other hand, having my phone suddenly switch Torch on, call a random person in my phonebook or reorder icons on the launcher desktop isn't all that exciting either -- not a fan of surprises.
Has anyone else found the Z3 Compact screen too sensitive? (Glove mode is off, obviously.)
raytheblacksmith said:
My screen is so sensitive I can operate it using my leg... through the pocket. I saw in Z1 and Z2 threads that there is a config file that can be adjusted, however I'd have to root in order to do that, and I don't want to risk losing my warranty (esp. not when reading about glass breaking by itself).
It's not a massive problem -- all it takes is switching off "double tap to wake" and camera launch button. But those are features that are useful. On the other hand, having my phone suddenly switch Torch on, call a random person in my phonebook or reorder icons on the launcher desktop isn't all that exciting either -- not a fan of surprises.
Has anyone else found the Z3 Compact screen too sensitive? (Glove mode is off, obviously.)
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On my previous phone (xperia acro s) it often happened that my leg messed with the phone when the screen went on for the alarm going off in my pocket. It was really annoying. I was always afraid that some important settings changed without knowing it.
My screen is so sensitive that I the last couple of weeks only have managed to send a few sms without having to delete several words that are written wrong...!
The speeddialer is also terrible and often leads to wrong contacts...
This phone is by far the worst phone I have ever had regarding these issues!
Is this a sign of a faulty phone or can you relate to these problems as well?
Is there a solution???
My speed dial wasn't working out of the box. Had to make a factory reset, that fixed it. Sensitivity isn't interfering with my writing though. My previous phone was a bit bigger so I had to get used to writing on a smaller keyboard. But why would touchscreen sensitivity be an issue when writing anyway? Are you using a swipe keyboard?
No I'm just using it out of the box settings...? I can see swipe is enabeled but I text normal... I have had to disable autocorrecting words when I write... It is really strange... I have had many different smartphones over the last 15 years and this is by far the most responsive ever tending to be useless because of the many mistakes I make during calls and sms...
I never had any issues what so ever with my M7...?
I have just disabled "motioninput" (roughly translated from danish...) under Xperia-texting and this seems to have helped alot!!!
I'm on the same boat - it's too sensitive compared to my m8. Hoping for update to fix it
You really should try to do what I did and disable motioninput! It really helps ??
I'm on the same boat - it's too sensitive compared to my nexus 4. Hoping for update to fix it
I go into running apps and force stop com.sonymobile.touchscreen.touchfilter.tfpss and it seems to be a little better, still sensitive but at least no bouceback. I should try pm blocking it.
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I go into running apps and force stop com.sonymobile.touchscreen.touchfilter.tfpss and it seems to be a little better, still sensitive but at least no bouceback. I should try pm blocking it.
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I've tried this as well, but unfortunately no change, I still get bounce-backs when I don't use particularly light and short swipes.

If you're having trouble with air gesture give a read.

So i started to try and use air gesture and immediately was frustrated with it. The instructions seemed fairly easy but also aren't crazy clear.
First it might just be me but I had to hold my hand further away from the screen than I thought. You'll hold your hand out a few inches above the camera and it will come up with the little blue/green status bar. I didn't see anything really mention this bar and was confuse by it. All it really means though is that the camera is on and watching. Secondly, you'll raise your hand about another 3 inches away and make a "loose" claw. I saw this because I was doing a really like pinched/clutched claw hand and it would NOT recognize it. Sort of pretend like you're grabbing a crystal ball rather than a gumball (sorry if this is a really odd example).
After this you should see the helper come up and show your hand. My biggest problems were distance and hand form.
Also, for hand id, you have to turn on "cover to wake for hand id" to get the screen to wake up with it. This isn't on by default. You essentially do the same things as air gesture, just holding your hand a few inches off the screen.
In the end I can't see hand ID as extremely useful myself, but the air gesture could be great in the right situation.
Good write up, spot on.
Found this video from LG that shows exactly what you described, so if you need a visual aid to go along, here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiAgEsH2p10
I find being able to just place my hand over the phone to wake and unlock rather my favorite use of this. Knocking the screen twice is ok for wakeup but it describes as being able to turn it off..doesn't ever seem to work. Opening up the music app and controlling it without touching the phone whilst driving (and the phone is in my hands free cradle) has been pretty useful once I memorized the distance and gesture so I don't have to look at the phone at all. If LG expands this functionality ever it could be quite useful..allow you to let the camera film custom gestures and connect that gesture to whatever function you like, and such.
phillymade said:
Good write up, spot on.
Found this video from LG that shows exactly what you described, so if you need a visual aid to go along, here it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiAgEsH2p10
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Thanks for posting the video, I finally did it! I'm fairly impressed, but find it to still be pretty uncooperative. Of course, I could spend a lot of time perfecting my technique, but I think it really needs more development. It's just waaaaay too fickle, especially if you have to pull your hand away for a split second.

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