Tip for fingerprint reader success rate.... - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge

I've had my Verizon S6 Edge for over a month and I've never had a great success rate with the fingerprint unlock, getting the "fail" haptic feedback regularly. I have my right thumb stored in 3 of the positions and my middle finger in the 4th. I placed my thumb at different angles in the 3 spots. and always moved it around to try and get as full a pattern as possible by the 100% mark when storing the print.
To unlock, I usually just placed my finger on the home button, other times I tried depressing it briefly and then releasing it, often just to get the fail feedback. What it appears I never did was just PRESS AND HOLD THE HOME BUTTON. It seems that that gives the reader the best impression, since I'm 100 for 100 with either finger since I began using this method.
I'm wondering if many of the posts I've read with people having trouble were using my original technique, and if all the people saying they never had trouble were using my new technique?
Anyway, prob'ly a case of RTFM, but I thought I'd pass my stupidity along....surely someone else is as dumb as me (maybe).

I've noticed this as well. I wish the home button was indented sort of like the iPhone. Both are good readers but the iPhone6 is easier to do faster and more correctly.

I usually press the home and release. Do this to turn the screen on. While I release the home button I keep my finger on the home button in order to get a read on my fingerprint. Since I got this phone, if I had issues 5 times total getting a read on is a lot. I'm very happy with it

i havent had any issues.. i get all angles of my thumb print and dont have to press down hard at all.. its way easier than the s5
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[Q] It Anyone Else Having Touch Button Problems?

Is anyone else experiencing the occasional mixup when hitting the back button? As not always, but many times regardless of the application thats open, I'll hit the back button and the search will come up and I wondering whether thats a common problem or a sensor in my phone is defective and I need to exchange it for a new one...
Thanks in advance
im having a different problem with the buttons. a lot of times my first touch wont register and i have to press it multiple times for it to be recognized.
I've noticed that my touch buttons aren't as sensitive as the touchscreen, and that I need to use a lot of pressure to get them to activate on the first try.
not alone there.. same issue here. I have a clear screen protector over them though.. though it shouldn't be a problem.. I've had the issue even before the protector so..
I have a problem with the back button too, not the other ones. However, when I press a spot a little to the left of the back button and not exactly over the button, it seems to register the press correctly.
I have found that the buttons just do not like any other finger than the index finger try to use the thumb and it will go to search or do nothing.I also returned my first phone as the buttons were terrible 80 percent of the time they would not work.So there maybe be a flaw in some of the phones as this one works fine even with the phantom skins on.The first phone would not even register a response with the skin on.
The buttons on the Captivate suck.
Buttons, as a construct, are well known.
The functional priority of the button is not a mystery and hasn't been for 100 years.
It has to click or otherwise give the user an indication the button has been pressed far enough to take effect.
It has to be tacticle. You have to have some way of knowing that your finger is on the button before you press it.
You have to have some leverage to put enough force on the button to make it move.
It has to be about the size of a finger tip.
It has to be visible. If you can't see it you can't press it.
It has to be different than other buttons that are millimeters from it.
It has to react the first time you press it, or you will naturally press it again, achieving unwanted results.
In all of the above, the Captivate fails.
The T-Mobile Galaxy has more a lot more real estate below the buttons to allow your fingers to get on to them, and a raised ridge on the rear surface of the phone exactly to give your other fingers something to grip against to increase aim and pressure.
But the Captivate has a nice lot of space at the top OH YEAH!
The only problem I have with the buttons is that I can't see them in a dark room
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I'm getting something similar. Sometimes when I hit the home button the search button blinks as if I had pressed it, then brings up the search screen. On my first captivate (mfg. date 7/16) sometimes it would happen once out of every hundred presses and sometimes it would happen 3 out of 5, very inconsistent. I traded that one in for one with a later manufacturing date (8/10), and my new one does it too but maybe only 1 out of every 100-200 presses. The fact that the search button blinks makes me think it's some kind of short/hardware issue. The back button has only triggered a search for me once, and that was on my first phone.
So this is a hardware issue or a software issue?
My back button on my phone must be pressed 4-5 times sometimes before it will register. The phone did not have the issue when I got it, and a friend of mine who has the Captivate as well does not have this issue.
It may be my imagination, but the phone seems to register touches better after I run a task killer or after restarting the phone, but tends to have issues when multiple apps are up and running.
I was having a button problem as well but fixed it by upgrading to JH3. h t t p://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=767666
Your mileage may vary but it worked for me.
May be my imagination, but it seemed to be more isolated to back button on JH3 than JF6 on my machine. My perception is that if I take an additional half-second pause before pushing back button it registers more often. Do not believe it is hardware though. I believe that your home page(button), settings (button), and search(button) all reference something that resides in permanent memory(ROM) whereas the back(button) is trying to recall something that is in temporary memory (RAM) and possibly similar to lag issues may be related to Samsungs somewhat proprietary file allocation system. I am by no means computer literate enough to ponder concept any deeper than just mentioned.
I was having a problem with pushing the home button and the search would come up. I took it to a AT&T store and because I was still in the first 30 days they swapped it out for me.
i'm having a completely different issue with my touch buttons. my back button will register multiple button presses even when i'm nowhere near it. it's quite frustrating to be in the middle of an app and all of a sudden the back button goes off 3 or 4 times and gets you back to the home screen. i've tried searching the forums for some resolution or to see if someone else has had this, but not yet.
Edit: I must not have searched thoroughly enough, found another thread on this issue. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858873&highlight=back+button+issue&page=2

Kyocera Zio M6000 - screen sensitivity

I've had issues with the screen since I got the device. Typing on the keyboard, or tapping any buttons, or drawing, the line is very inaccurate where it shows up. In order for it to work I need to press enough to flatten the tip of my finger so the surface area is about a 1cm diameter circle, and the point it makes is random as to what side of the circle it seems to appear on.
I wasn't certain if it was my phone, or me, or what until recently. I bought this generic pogo capacitative stylus (DX sku.23061). I tried it on my phone and it didn't work. I had to push down extremely hard to get any response, so much I was worried about scratching the screen. I was just writing the problem off to the stylus, but I just tried that same stylus on my friends HTC Touch Slide. It worked beautifully. No pressure required, just the corner of the stylus and it gets perfect accuracy.
Is this type of thing going to get better going from 1.6 to 2.1? Is it just a **** phone? Did I get a lemon? It's hard to simply tap a single icon on the home screen without the one next to it being tapped instead.
Yeah, I tried a stylus too and it was useless for me on the Zio, bit I do not know if that will change with the update
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Yeah, I tried a stylus too and it was useless for me on the Zio, bit I do not know if that will change with the update
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I wouldn't imagine it would change much from an update. Capacitive is mechanical, and is only as good as the screen itself.
My phone has zero issues with the touchscreen display. calibration is bang on (within 1mm).
I'd suggest to RMA it or swap it out if you have a protection plan-- sounds like there may have been some defective products released.
I'm having the same issue with the touchscreen on this phone. I have been posting in several posts about a few issues I've been having but it seems either i'm posting in the wrong areas or i'm invisible in the post altogether.
I'm new to posts and its all confusing to me, I am slowly learning how to get through them, and i've been reading the hell out of just about every one on here for this stinking junk phone to a point i'm about to take my hammer and smash the thing and just buy a real phone that works.
Sounds like a defective touch screen. Hope you have a warranty or protection plan :-\
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BTW
If the general public isn't aware, if you have your device plugged in for charging (USB or AC) your touchscreen will not respond accurately.
I'm not sure why this is, but it's something to be aware of.
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I'm still noticing some touch screen issues that were present in the old firmware. For example, I will hit the power button to wake up the phone, and the slide to unlock wont respond until after several attempts. If it does respond right away, it will unlock and then the touch screen becomes completely unresponsive. Happens several times a day to me and this is the second Zio I have had since the phone's launch last year that has done this. Also if I have a screen lock pattern, that will not respond either, but as soon as you touch "Emergency Call" it responds to just that. It will always clear up after a couple tries, but it is very annoying and resetting the phone doesn't help either.
How much memory is free on your phone?
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the only thing i have noticed with the lock screen if you halfway unlock it and let go that the unlock slide completely disappears and its only happened once. putting it back to sleep and waking it back up brings it back.
My phone usually runs with 30 to 60 MB of free memory. It's done it before right after a reset I don't believe it has anything to do with memory.
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I also am running with 60MB free space, I have the XDA app and the 2.3 launcher running.
I wonder if there is any way to increase the available memory, it would definitely do the phone some good. Perhaps a custom rom about 50MB in size would help.
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Button-less Wake!

The main defect with the Note 3 is that it requires a button-press to wake-up.
Let this thread be a collective bounty of alternative solutions until we can Slide2Wake which requires kernal changes and AT&T to unlock the bootloader.
Sign this petition in the meantime while you read on:
http://www.change.org/petitions/at-t-unlock-our-samsung-galaxy-note-3-bootloader
Working solutions:
-Use a proximity sensor app (very hit and miss) (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.omd.autoscreenon&hl=en)
-Use the S View cover (also hit and miss and unpreferred by many)
Any other solutions please add!
Why would you want a huge wake lock like that? A simple press of the home button is much easier IMHO. I'd rather not have to swipe across the screen to turn the screen on
RErick said:
Why would you want a huge wake lock like that? A simple press of the home button is much easier IMHO. I'd rather not have to swipe across the screen to turn the screen on
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You're right. It's a considerable battery drain. The surprising thing is.. in the end, the smoothness of button-free operation becomes *worth it* IMHO.
I turn my phone on and off a lot to check stuff. I'll look at my to do list then press the corner SwipePad shortcut to turn it off. Then I'll remember something while moving up a bit in the line and **without even looking down for a button** and half-entranced in contemplation still I'll swipe from one side of the phone to halfway to the other and it is ON by the split second both my hands hold it to to make a note or reminder, look up something, etc. after which i'll immediately press the corner shortcut again to turn it off and my phone stays in one hand while I people-watch.
For some reason this is much more relaxed and makes me feel like the phone is like a second brain where I don't even need to create mnemonic devices called loci as much like I used to.
Maybe that's what's making my memory kind of crappy. Maybe should go back to doing that for my to-do lists. Might improve my memory. ANYWAY. my point is:
(1) it's less mechanical effort to swipe and
(2) I like to save my buttons and don't want to eventually have to replace the home button on the Note 3 for like $50 or whatever.
I guess it's not that big a deal.
If I did have that feature though I wouldn't miss anything else from past phones especially since the Note 3 is big enough to fit in one hand BARELY and could do a HALF-swipe to wake feature.
**pretends to do it now**
I'm crazy.
I would like a solution to this as well. Tried the light sensor app but that wasnt working well. Really wish we had tap-on.
I really like not hitting any physical buttons because this phone is huge and unwieldy. Still love it though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spazedog.xposed.additionsgb
I assigned the power button to holding down the back button. That saves a little bit of button-life.
The app also is designed to support the same while the screen is off... but it doesn't seem to work yet.
Would be super awesome though to be able to turn the screen off and on while the back button is held. Just not there yet.
Screen on with swipe is the next best.. though much more battery intensive.
Has anyone just simply tried pressing the simple wake button on the side of the phone once? I mean you already have your hand on it most of the time since it is where your fingers are if you are holding the phone in one hand.
Also for you slider guys, it takes many more muscles to frown and it is the same to slide. Much better to smile and press one single button already under your thumb when you are holding the phone.
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Has anyone just simply tried pressing the simple wake button on the side of the phone once? I mean you already have your hand on it most of the time since it is where your fingers are if you are holding the phone in one hand.
Also for you slider guys, it takes many more muscles to frown and it is the same to slide. Much better to smile and press one single button already under your thumb when you are holding the phone.
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Congratulations Captain Obvious. You are the first person to ever think of that!
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Read above about my experience with button-less waking in the SGS2.
Besides that, you're wrong, my thumb is actually closer to the screen than the power button when I am holding it.
And it's no effort at all. That's the whole point. It's the same slide necessary in receiving a call. No physical PUSHING required.
I can turn my phone on twice per second easily by linking one of the touch buttons to "power" as well. With zero concern for screwing up any physical buttons.
Anyway please only write in this thread if you have something that will contribute to the idea of "button-less wake"
I'm only looking for creating solutions to that.
megamorphg said:
I can turn my phone on twice per second easily by linking one of the touch buttons to "power" as well. With zero concern for screwing up any physical buttons.
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Well it looks like you've solved your own problem right? So should this be closed? I'll answer my own question, yes
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Roundtableprez said:
Well it looks like you've solved your own problem right? So should this be closed? I'll answer my own question, yes
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I'm talking about my SGS2 (last phone).
If Note 3 has a button-less wake feature then can close this.
I think that won't happen till ATT lifts the lock tho..
Best buttonless Wake Achieved
S View cover
P.s.: for those who prefer a different case: just wait till bootloader is unlocked > kernel unlocked > slide function can be made.
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[Dissapointed] Fingerprint Sensor

I'm new to the S5 literally got this phone 2 days ago. So far I'm loving it everything is good..until I get to the fingerprint sensor. Anybody else Dissapointed on how unacurate this thing is? I like the idea of having it, but they need to fix it or update It somehow. 9/10 times I have to put my password in instead.
I get mine to work with one hand 98% of the time and I can use 4 fingers rather than 3
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I wish I could be disappointed. My work disables fingerprint security to access their network. I have to use pin or password.
marcviado said:
I'm new to the S5 literally got this phone 2 days ago. So far I'm loving it everything is good..until I get to the fingerprint sensor. Anybody else Dissapointed on how unacurate this thing is? I like the idea of having it, but they need to fix it or update It somehow. 9/10 times I have to put my password in instead.
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The quality of the fingerprint makes a huge difference. My wife works in a pretty caustic environment and her fingers get kinda mucked up, nothing we can do will make it work for her. However, it works flawlessly for me.
Another issues is the limited size of the actual scanner makes it dificult to read the fingerprint acurately
LeKtRiCzzz said:
I get mine to work with one hand 98% of the time and I can use 4 fingers rather than 3
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+1. No issues here. I was pleasantly surprised.
Though my laptop and my work's timeclock have fingerprint scanners that work in much the same way -- so I've had plenty of practice. :good:
For the life of me can't get the finger print scanner to work well at all. I tried three different times setting it up with very low success rate lol.
Finally just do a swipe pattern out of shear frustration. I would love to do it one handed with my left thumb and tried to set it up this way to no avail.
I have better success if I hold it with left hand and swipe with pointer on right hand. Swipe pattern is so much easier with a 100% success rate.
Works for me every time, youhave 3 finger prints you can asign, use the thumb you unlock for all three doing them in different angles, even switch the angle up on every swipe when setting one print up, figure out the motion you would normally use to unlock it and try setting it up that way.I actually set my right thumb up for 2 of the the 3rd I used my left thumb just in case I'm holding the phone in my left hand, but you don't need to swipe your thumb vertically down, as long as your swiping the whole button it should be good, start with your thumb horizontal and move it a little counter clockwise each time till set up is done.works lawless for me unless I'm at work and my finger is dirty, witch is good because it knows, it's very accurate if set up properly., hope that helps
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Works for me every time, youhave 3 finger prints you can asign, use the thumb you unlock for all three doing them in different angles, even switch the angle up on every swipe when setting one print up, figure out the motion you would normally use to unlock it and try setting it up that way.I actually set my right thumb up for 2 of the the 3rd I used my left thumb just in case I'm holding the phone in my left hand, but you don't need to swipe your thumb vertically down, as long as your swiping the whole button it should be good, start with your thumb horizontal and move it a little counter clockwise each time till set up is done.works lawless for me unless I'm at work and my finger is dirty, witch is good because it knows, it's very accurate if set up properly., hope that helps
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I've tried numerous times to set it up but it rarely works for me. I had to enter password so many times I disabled it all together. I'll admit that my fingers are frequently roughened or cut at work but even using fingers on my left (non-dominant) hand which are relatively unscathed only gets me success once in awhile.
Maybe it is just not usable for those who work with their hands, bummer as it seemed promising. I rarely had any lock on other devices and thought this might be a lock I could use.
Try again it works , good too, 9 outa 10 times for me,I'm a union electrical so my fingers are always getting cuts and scratches, blisters from spinning wire nuts. Try setting it up like I suggested use your thumb horizontal to the phone or like 45 degree angle like you would if you were doing it one handed, then turn on your power key to lock your phone instantly so you can test it without waiting for screen to time out to lock.
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I get mine to work with one hand 95% of the time and I can use 4 fingers rather than 3
djmouse said:
Try again it works , good too, 9 outa 10 times for me,I'm a union electrical so my fingers are always getting cuts and scratches, blisters from spinning wire nuts. Try setting it up like I suggested use your thumb horizontal to the phone or like 45 degree angle like you would if you were doing it one handed, then turn on your power key to lock your phone instantly so you can test it without waiting for screen to time out to lock.
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Trying again. Results are better - if I swipe slowly it gets most attempts but not every time. I'll try it for a day and see if I improve, maybe it is more sensitive to angle and velocity than I am. That may improve as I repeat the movement enough to get used to it. However security isn't a large concern so I'm not too upset; it's primarily just the usual annoyance when something doesn't work for me.
Maybe I am just I am expecting too much, do you have to swipe pretty slowly?

Home button is too sensitive.

Hi all,
It seems my home button is way too sensitive, it sometimes(I say sometimes because it seems to vary) senses a touch from up to 3-5mm away from the screen. This becomes problematic because since it's range is so big, it can pick a normal press as a long-press or even seem to be pressing by itself and it's pretty annoying. Is there a way to lower/calibrate it's sensitivity or even better, to move the "hold" functionality to the back or HTC button?
This wouldn't have bothered me and I haven't even noticed it until I made a very favorable (for me) exchange with some guy and he calls me the next morning to tell me I tricked him because I gave him a faulty phone and the button presses itself, so I had to tell him I'll look at the phone and try to see what the problem is and if I can fix it by tomorrow, so any help would be appreciated!
Also, the guy said in 2 instances he put the phone down and it kept pressing itself.
Edit: apparently the problem might be liquids(water or sweat) on your finger, explains why it would keep activating after your finger was taken away. That moment when you're using a product wrong and blaming it on malfunctions. Can anyone replicate this for me? Wet your finger and press the home button, see if it registers as a long press(i.e. opens google now), I want to be sure it's not limited to my device.

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