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Is rooting really that good?

I rooted my phone a week ago, I kept with the stock Rom for a few days, then installed a Renovate sense 6 Rom which seemed to work well. I had SuperSU installed, plus a few other apps, but then all of a sudden I got an error message when trying to open SuperSU saying the binary was missing, so I downloaded a root checker which said I wasn't fully rooted! After looking on the forums to find a solution I relocked my boot loader and unrooted the phone. Trying to find a stock RUU for my phone ( unlocked Europe version ) was a bloody nightmare. Also getting it to install on my phone was a pain, but probably more to do with my computer having a slow moment.
Is it really worth all the hassle when I can all go wrong in a couple of days ?
Don't think I'll be re routing again any time soon
Sent from my HTC One

Well it's like anything. If you don't know why you need something you probably don't need it
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bloodyniceben said:
I rooted my phone a week ago, I kept with the stock Rom for a few days, then installed a Renovate sense 6 Rom which seemed to work well. I had SuperSU installed, plus a few other apps, but then all of a sudden I got an error message when trying to open SuperSU saying the binary was missing, so I downloaded a root checker which said I wasn't fully rooted! After looking on the forums to find a solution I relocked my boot loader and unrooted the phone. Trying to find a stock RUU for my phone ( unlocked Europe version ) was a bloody nightmare. Also getting it to install on my phone was a pain, but probably more to do with my computer having a slow moment.
Is it really worth all the hassle when I can all go wrong in a couple of days ?
Don't think I'll be re routing again any time soon
Sent from my HTC One
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the phone never come unrooted .. you never had root installed properly
when it's flashed correctly from recovery it will not just go away
http://download.chainfire.eu/396/SuperSU
Flash that from recovery and you'll be rooted

I had SuperSU installed, everything was fine, anything I did with the phone worked. After a week it said the SU binaries were missing, and you couldn't get into SuperSU to do anything, but previously you could. If the phone was never rooted correctly like you say, i would have had this problem from the start.
Also after rooting I used a root checker which said I was rooted, but after this Su binary issue started, it said I wasn't rooted.
Still, I'm back to unrooted now, and the only reason I did it was to get Sense 6, which has since come out as an update, so I'm no worse off
Ben
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bloodyniceben said:
I had SuperSU installed, everything was fine, anything I did with the phone worked. After a week it said the SU binaries were missing, and you couldn't get into SuperSU to do anything, but previously you could. If the phone was never rooted correctly like you say, i would have had this problem from the start.
Also after rooting I used a root checker which said I was rooted, but after this Su binary issue started, it said I wasn't rooted.
Still, I'm back to unrooted now, and the only reason I did it was to get Sense 6, which has since come out as an update, so I'm no worse off
Ben
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Free mobile app
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This is a rom issue not a root issue. Could have also been an issue with the kernel. To be honest if you dont really use the root functions then there maybe no need for you to have it. To be honest most people dont really need root. They just wanna seem cool with some things they can show off on their device instead of using it for anything important or handy. I would advice to judge for yourself. Take the extra options/security risk and weigh it against remaining stock which has less options/secure.

I agree with the previous post, if you don't know what it is, you probably don't need it. As far as SuperSu disappearing, it sounds like either you didn't install it correctly or something changed. The ideal way to install SuperSu is to install via the recovery. And even so, if you reinstall your OS, you will need to reinstall SuperSu. Software does not simply disappear, something had to be done to hasten it's departure. An easy fix to your issue would have been to download the SuperSu zip package from http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu, and install it via your recovery. What I personally don't like about locking a bootloader is that now it says TAMPERED at the top of the screen.

Your issues seem to be with the restoring to stock process which HTC do make a bit convoluted, triggered by the root error not rooting itself.
Now to answer your question: My main reason for rooting is I want to take fine grained backups. Second is lots of clever people have come up with mods and improvements I like to install over the stock Sense ROM.
If you don't need anything that needs root, no need to root. Simple as that.

bloodyniceben said:
I rooted my phone a week ago, I kept with the stock Rom for a few days, then installed a Renovate sense 6 Rom which seemed to work well. I had SuperSU installed, plus a few other apps, but then all of a sudden I got an error message when trying to open SuperSU saying the binary was missing, so I downloaded a root checker which said I wasn't fully rooted! After looking on the forums to find a solution I relocked my boot loader and unrooted the phone. Trying to find a stock RUU for my phone ( unlocked Europe version ) was a bloody nightmare. Also getting it to install on my phone was a pain, but probably more to do with my computer having a slow moment.
Is it really worth all the hassle when I can all go wrong in a couple of days ?
Don't think I'll be re routing again any time soon
Sent from my HTC One
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if you want RUU search @ htc1guru.com with firmware/software version
flash same firmware again + flash custom recovery + flash SuperSu it will resolve your problem

root, lollipop, xposed questions

first, sorry if this has been asked b4, xda/google saeearch didn't find anything.
I need xposed, and I also need root. ( both, root for other things besides xposed.)
just got my moto g2, 4.4.4., and I wanted to know, should I root now, or wait till the 5.0 update and then root? or should I root now and install xposed and not update to 5.0 when it comes out? I read online that there probably will not be xposed fully working on lollipop.
advice anyone?

Root it now, you can aways install the update on your phone, rooted or not.

Hakkinan said:
Root it now, you can aways install the update on your phone, rooted or not.
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most of the updfate threads say to make sure the phone is fully stock, wont it mess it up?

Kobro said:
most of the updfate threads say to make sure the phone is fully stock, wont it mess it up?
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You can be rooted and still be fully stock.

Kobro said:
most of the updfate threads say to make sure the phone is fully stock, wont it mess it up?
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Only if you want to receive it by OTA, besides that, it doesn't matter if you are fully stock or not.

There are some known issues relocking bootloader and returning to stock at all. In most of all cases it works without problems but not in all. If you can´t get back to stock there still will be future options to get lollipop,by sideloading as a zip though recovery for example,ota is not the only way.
I am still on stock 4.4.4 and will wait for the ota,then relock bootloader and root.The Moto G is the first phone I didn´t root at once because it works really good and has farly not as much crapware as others, so I´m able to wait. But I don´t need xposed desperatly, I badly need Adway,Titanium and some others more.
It´s still not clear if xposed will work under lollipop.
So it´s your choice, it´s up to you. You can stay on Kitkat,root and install xposed. And you can update to lollipop later,when/if xposed is running.
Or you can stay stock,wait for ota and root later wich is my way.

Coming from 2 nexus devices, i can't imagine to have a phone without unlocked bootloader, root, custom rom and kernel, that's the point of android for me, customization

Thanks all for your responses! Much appreciated! Now all i have to do is find some way of rooting the thing, vroot failed- first time ever for me

To root Moto G 4.4.4 you have to unlock the bootloader,install custom recovery and flash superSU.zip.
Just follow this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/guide-root-moto-g-2nd-gen-2014-t2874245
But use the CWM-recovery from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/recovery-cwm-philz-touch-6-moto-g-2014-t2896586
or TWRP from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/recovery-twrp-2-8-0-1-moto-g-2014-t2896165

xposed not working
Kobro said:
first, sorry if this has been asked b4, xda/google saeearch didn't find anything.
I need xposed, and I also need root. ( both, root for other things besides xposed.)
just got my moto g2, 4.4.4., and I wanted to know, should I root now, or wait till the 5.0 update and then root? or should I root now and install xposed and not update to 5.0 when it comes out? I read online that there probably will not be xposed fully working on lollipop.
advice anyone?
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plz send a link where i can download xposed for moto g 2014 tx

najm555 said:
plz send a link where i can download xposed for moto g 2014 tx
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One post above yours.......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58828974&postcount=1

Root Z3C 5.1.1 Stock Rom

Hello i have upgraded my Z3C D5803 from 5.0.2 Slim Rom (twrp and rooted & bootlader unlocked) to 5.1.1 Stock Firmware 23.4.A.0.546 using XPERIFIRM to download and Flashtool to package and flash to the phone.
I have been looking for days but i am unable to find a way to root the stock firmware without having to reflash a custom firmware. I use the ScreenMirroring and Dualshock Support on a daily basis and this is usually taken out of custom roms as Bloatware.
Everything i have tried so far has not worked. Currently it is completely stock, no custom loader, no root (however I do not know if flashing stock rom via Flashtool will relock the bootloader?) Edit: Although from what i have read and understood it is not possible to relock the bootloader (that easily)
I have had many android phones/tablets and rooted/unlocked the majority of them, i just cannot work this one out =[
Thanks for any help

Did u already tried to downgrade , get root and reflashed an prerooted Firmware from here?

GP420 said:
Hello i have upgraded my Z3C D5803 from 5.0.2 Slim Rom (twrp and rooted & bootlader unlocked) to 5.1.1 Stock Firmware 23.4.A.0.546 using XPERIFIRM to download and Flashtool to package and flash to the phone.
I have been looking for days but i am unable to find a way to root the stock firmware without having to reflash a custom firmware. I use the ScreenMirroring and Dualshock Support on a daily basis and this is usually taken out of custom roms as Bloatware.
Everything i have tried so far has not worked. Currently it is completely stock, no custom loader, no root (however I do not know if flashing stock rom via Flashtool will relock the bootloader?) Edit: Although from what i have read and understood it is not possible to relock the bootloader (that easily)
I have had many android phones/tablets and rooted/unlocked the majority of them, i just cannot work this one out =[
Thanks for any help
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I am exactly in the same position. All I want is my COMPLETELY stock 5.1.1 to have root access, and possibly custom recovery. I don't want it pre-debloated (will remove the apps I want remove with Titanium) I don't want Xposed or anything added to it.I don't want to have to flash-downgrade ROM or worse, install a custom ROM, then reupgrade, and all the palaver.
Just like you I have rooted and CWM'd successfully many phones like Xperia X10, Xperia Mini, Galaxy S1, Galaxy S2 and Fairphone and I have always managed to do it in a fairly straightforward way. Just like you I cannot work this one out. I have spent the best part of my free time in the last week searching the web and this website, to no avail. No one and nowhere is offering a simple way to root & CWM the Z3C on stock 5.1.1. It seems even less likely on a D5833 and even less so on a locked bootloader!
Feeling like giving up on this phone.... :crying:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343
Next time, please do a little (re)seach on your own...

fgaine said:
I am exactly in the same position. All I want is my COMPLETELY stock 5.1.1 to have root access, and possibly custom recovery. I don't want it pre-debloated (will remove the apps I want remove with Titanium) I don't want Xposed or anything added to it.I don't want to have to flash-downgrade ROM or worse, install a custom ROM, then reupgrade, and all the palaver.
Just like you I have rooted and CWM'd successfully many phones like Xperia X10, Xperia Mini, Galaxy S1, Galaxy S2 and Fairphone and I have always managed to do it in a fairly straightforward way. Just like you I cannot work this one out. I have spent the best part of my free time in the last week searching the web and this website, to no avail. No one and nowhere is offering a simple way to root & CWM the Z3C on stock 5.1.1. It seems even less likely on a D5833 and even less so on a locked bootloader!
Feeling like giving up on this phone.... :crying:
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Problem is, atm u cannot root directly 5.1.1. U have to downgrade.

I have lost function of the camera button by going through all that flash-downgrading, custom recovery, reupgrading etc... I don't want to do that and screw up my phone any further, so I'll wait for a safer and more straightforward process to come up...

Guide to Root without Pc

Hello,
I'm buying much devices, test it and sell it.
But I like the zuk z1 very much (SOT is awesome)
So I search for a possibility to root the device,
Without going to the pc (adb method or smth) or just lazy like me.
Setup:
New z1 / 3AJ Firmware
Download kingroot Click me
Guide:
Download kingroot and open it,
Follow the instructions. U should be rooted.
Proof in the attachment, I hope it works for u all.
Bugs:
Some apps doesn't work. Better battery stats is one who don't work.
Edit:
BBS worked! , need two reboots to get it to work.
Maybe more, report if u try this method.

Just wait for CyanogenMod, no MS-Apps, no Bing, no 1 million Google Apps, Root just one click...

Hm.
U can freeze or de-install all that ****ty apps. ^^

Won't rooting stop the software updates which it clearly needs? That's what's stopping me atm

You can also get Supersume at the plays store to get rid of KingRoot, and put in CF Supersu.

Droid_Nut said:
You can also get Supersume at the plays store to get rid of KingRoot, and put in CF Supersu.
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Don't waste your money on Supersume, just follow these instructions to replace Kingroot with supersu:
http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html
Hope I could help

xaboren said:
Don't waste your money on Supersume, just follow these instructions to replace Kingroot with supersu:
http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html
Hope I could help
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I recall seeing that link a while back, but I could not find it, but I heard about Supersume, so I went that route instead.

I have ordered my Zuk Z1 on Thursday. I hope it will arrive until Tuesday. So I'm orientating already about how to root and so on. I don't see why you should root with Kingroot as you don't get updates from Cyanogen anymore when you have rooted the phone. It's a lot easier to unlock bootloader, flash TWRP and than flash SuperSu in my opinion, isn't it? Or do I miss something?

As far as I know, the problem is not Kingroot, but rather that in process of rooting the system partition is changed to read and write (r/w). Now every time the ota update script is running, they check if the that is the case and if so won't install the ota.
Just btw. I read in an other post here, that SuperSU replaces some files and that even if you should unroot, they still change them back, which also prohibits the OTA update script from running.
Which ever way you root and whatever recovery you have installed, you can still sideload the the updates, without loosing any of your data.
Download the "...ham-signed.zip" from this link
Here is the link to the post about the OTA files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z1/development/official-ota-update-links-ota-updating-t3226990
And give Breadcrust and Radii a thanks next time you see one of their posts
P.S.: I have no clue of any of these things/ I am in no way a developer, it's just what I have found out so far, what it comes down to...

root zuk z1
i bought a zuk z1 recently , i really want to root it coz i know of all the benefits and i even unlocked the bootloader.
but after that everything has been tough so i decided to root it through an app [though i know its temporary]i tried everything, kingoroot , kingroot. framaroot and what not but i havent gained root access.
i really want root now and i am desperate and begging at your feet to help me with a solution.
i hope you help me .:crying::crying:
zukz1
cyanoge mod os 12.1

joeljacob said:
i bought a zuk z1 recently , i really want to root it coz i know of all the benefits and i even unlocked the bootloader.
but after that everything has been tough so i decided to root it through an app [though i know its temporary]i tried everything, kingoroot , kingroot. framaroot and what not but i havent gained root access.
i really want root now and i am desperate and begging at your feet to help me with a solution.
i hope you help me .:crying::crying:
zukz1
cyanoge mod os 12.1
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Fastboot boot or flash recovey then flash SuperSU.zip
Enviado desde mi ZUK Z1 mediante Tapatalk

Not working
secXces_debaki said:
Hello,
I'm buying much devices, test it and sell it.
But I like the zuk z1 very much (SOT is awesome)
So I search for a possibility to root the device,
Without going to the pc (adb method or smth) or just lazy like me.
Setup:
New z1 / 3AJ Firmware
Download kingroot Click me
Guide:
Download kingroot and open it,
Follow the instructions. U should be rooted.
Proof in the attachment, I hope it works for u all.
Bugs:
Some apps doesn't work. Better battery stats is one who don't work.
Edit:
BBS worked! , need two reboots to get it to work.
Maybe more, report if u try this method.
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Hey , I just bought a zuk z1 and would like to root it with the application you have reffered (kingroot) but when I start kingroot it says that there is no way of rooting this model right now .
Can u please give any other app to root zuk z1 without PC or tell me if there is any system update if any ??.
I would really appreciate it ???

My name is Vishnu am from Thrissur my device is Lenovo zuk z1. I cannot root my phone
Please help me guys. My android version 5.1.1. ???

What you are going to do after reciving your OP3T ?

Hello Everyone
I would like to open a discussion about what usually every one do after receiving their new devices ROOT,Launchers,xposed, etc,,
I'm getting my device today so i don't know what exactly i have to do (wait for nougat releasing , which app i need to backup with etc..)
feel free to share our experience i guess many ppl wants to know
Best regards

Unlocking Bootloader, flashing TWRP. Maybe installing xposed, but I dont know yet. Just need it for Youtube adblock

Wanting something stable, maybe just root for now

First of all you should unlock your bootloader, because that will require a full wipe and that can be annoying if you start setting up your device and then have to wipe everything. Then, you could install TWRP and root your device, but since that does not require a full wipe, you don't have to do it immediately, if you don't want to.

Did root +xposed and ARISE sound mod. Everything nice and fast also installed adaway etc
Wysłane z mojego ONEPLUS A3003 przy użyciu Tapatalka

I usually unlock and root, but this thing has so much customization stock, that I'm leaving it alone so I can use Android pay.

Absolutely nothing. I haven't felt the need to root or unlock bootloader with OP3 or this one.

Agree with the two posts above.
I decided to not touch it so I can give Android Pay ago as well as use my banks app which blocks root.

ignorant question...
Do AdBlockers need root to run, or only to install?
ie. can you
- root
- install XYZ
- unroot? (with AdBlock still working)
and then be able to still use Google Pay, etc?

zim2dive said:
ignorant question...
Do AdBlockers need root to run, or only to install?
ie. can you
- root
- install XYZ
- unroot? (with AdBlock still working)
and then be able to still use Google Pay, etc?
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run

I flashed twrp, rooted and running some exposed modules . Waiting on some Roms.

My plan is to wait a week and then flash TWRP, root Oxygen with SuperSU, and maybe install Xposed. I really want root for AdAway because mobile ads are awful. I will be doing this all this weekend hopefully.
My only concern is that once we get Nougat, there is no Xposed for 7.0+. Killing me to not ask for a timeline on when we could expect a release.

Unlock boot loader install twrp, root, moab,xposed. Then wait for a good stable cm maybe use a custom rom(ehhhhmmmm darkobas).

Unlock the bootloader, custom recovery, root it and install xposed with some adblockers
Edit: and viper4android

dewa710 said:
Unlock the bootloader, custom recovery, root it and install xposed with some adblockers
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Yes...twrp ..root ..gmd gesture..adaway..viper4arise...and new nougat ROMs to flash....

I'm sure I'm gonna do things that will brick the device for at least 2 times. No full customization, no life

hi guys! my OP3T delivered me between 5th and 12th december if oneplus keep this date
first i will do unlock bootloader, root and flash twrp. then i will look what comes ^^ can i use this guide also for the OP3T to unlock bootloader, root and flash a custom recovery?
after two years of using my lovely great OPO, i get an new great smartphone from oneplus so i hope the OP3T arrive me fast!

justibasa said:
I usually unlock and root, but this thing has so much customization stock, that I'm leaving it alone so I can use Android pay.
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So........I lied. Being the crackflasher I am, I unlocked and flashed a kernel today. But that's all I'm doing, I promise, maybe. ?

fluke87 said:
First of all you should unlock your bootloader, because that will require a full wipe and that can be annoying if you start setting up your device and then have to wipe everything. Then, you could install TWRP and root your device, but since that does not require a full wipe, you don't have to do it immediately, if you don't want to.
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Yeah wish I'd seen this earlier
Setting it all up for the second time tonight

zim2dive said:
ignorant question...
Do AdBlockers need root to run, or only to install?
ie. can you
- root
- install XYZ
- unroot? (with AdBlock still working)
and then be able to still use Google Pay, etc?
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No AdBlock needs root. Search blockada I use it even as I'm rooted as you can turn on and off the ad block allowing me to use specific price apps.
When I receive mine today will update, unlock my bootloader, root and install this kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/development/kernel-tyranus-kernel-t3507267.