Working 6 months with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (910F), 5 Years with Samsung
I am not a regular user / buyer. I have many smartphones and when I like a brand, i am buying everything i can from the same brand.
Until 5 years ago, I was working only with HTC. I bought 8 HTC smartphones.
And then I discovered Samsung.
From then, I bought 10 Samsung smartphones, 3 Samsung Smart TVs and more.
But my passion to Samsung started to crack, and all because of my Note 4 issues.
When I received the Note 4, it was amazing - excellent battery life, everything worked perfect.
And then came updates...
After the first update, the Note 4 started to have bluetooth issues - I need to make restart twice a day in order to work with my bluetooth headsets (even with Samsung headsets).
With more updates, the battery life dropped dramatically. After the Lollipop update, the battery is dropping 3-5% per hour, without using it. Android OS and bluetooth dropped the most.
Dont tell me to make hard reset - I made it twice.
Its time to leave Samsung and work with a company that can give me what Samsung gave me until two years ago.
Samsung will need to convince me that it improved before I will return.
using bluetooth everyday with my car audio, and bluetooth headset never had any problem.
battery life never changed for me with any update. 6 hours sot generally.
maybe the Exynos is better.
The exynos is not any better, I had it for nearly a month, but returned it yesterday. Just like the op, I became a fan of samsung since I bought the S3 because of the removeable back and exchangeable battery, memory card support, and of course the tons of roms here on XDA. I was a HTC user (Desire and Desire HD). Now Samsung seems to be going that route, so it is time for me to look for alternatives, but can't find one I like at the moment. Worse comes to worse when there is no manufacturer making removable battery and sd card support, I will not buy samsung. I would rather but a NEXUS phone which will have updates from google. Heck my dauthers' 3 year old Nexus 7 toys are still running 5.1.1 without me doing anything.
I understand what you're saying. I have the Note 4 now, before that a few Nokias, an LG G3, Sony Xperia Z2, and before that, the Note 2 (best phone I had owned). I'm very disappointed in Samsung's issues. If Samsung doesn't fix this issue before I get a new phone in a few months probably, I'll ditch Samsung for good. Battery life is horrible. Camera is good in AWESOME lighting conditions, and in EVERY OTHER condition, it's SOOO grainy and terrible! Focusing isn't good. My 2013 Nokia 1520 took MUCH better pictures than this Note 4, except in good lighting. Also, 4 different roms (all official) and I still have that STUPID multitasking button delay. My Samsung tablet from 2 years ago is MUCH faster at bringing up the multitasking screen! 2GB ram and SD800 processor w/ same resolution!
I really hate to say it, but I am very disappointed in all the money I spent in this phone. I should have returned it when I had the chance ... Xperia Z3, or Z4 now... LG G4... Nexus 6. I know EVERY device has its issues, but I always need 2 things: Battery life and good camera performance. From ALL the reviews, the Note 4 had these... I really can't trust reviewers on youtube... I guess they must praise the Samsung devices or else they won't get review units before release... Meh....
I really hope Samsung can fix these issues....
/rant off.
Updates to the software ruined it for you? Then go back to what it was like when everything was perfect.
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Updates to the software ruined it for you? Then go back to what it was like when everything was perfect.
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No, even before updates ruined it, it was buggy from the get go. For example, I had the GPS tag problem right out of the box. When trying to take a picture, sometimes it wouldn't lock on to the GPS coordinates in time. Other phones will continue to try to find the GPS lock and then add it to the image a few seconds after the image is taken, but not the Note 4! That was a really big issue that was fixed with the update to Lollipop, but it brought along with it a whole slew of other issues. So no, updates didn't ruin it, updates fixed some things and broke others.
Returning back is not always smooth.
Any way - some of the updates are security updates so its a problematic not to update.
Yeah, I guess that will be my first and last samsung phone. Some months back I was unsure to get the nexus 6 or samsung note 4, because I wanted a bigger phone. Wish I had waited for the nexus 6...
Problem was not the hardware, that is really high quality and everything works like it should. Also batterie is fine, in most cases it was something else that kept the phone from sleeping, like google+.
Really awesome is the QI Case from samsung, so I can load wireless and it's protected (great quality!). Also the small window with infos
But the downside is the software and the efuse. I had many phones in my hands till now (it in our company) from mid/high end android, apple, tablets etc.
I NEVER had a software on a phone that pissed me off like samsung did. Compared to my nexus 4 I had before, the performance was abysmal. I knew TW was known to be slow, but I mean the cpu is fast as hell, 3 GB RAM etc. - that should count for something right? There is so much crap preinstalled and badly coded, it hurts.
Never wanted to root my phone, but I really needed to do it. With a custom mod and kernel it was a bit faster, also lolipop was better then 4.4.4 in subjective speed. But when I installed CM on the phone, I saw for the first time WHAT this piece of fine hardware can actually do. I also installed the same apps and no difference in speed. It was nice and fast like my nexus 4. Too bad I had to kick CM because of the bugs still around at that time. So it really is the software, nothing else.
My next phone will be a nexus again or - if good - something from LG, Sony or a Google play edition. If I could I would change it right now for a lg g4 or a nexus 6.
If samsung want's to be a real opponent to apple, they have to keep the changes to android at the lowest possible (like CM) and everything else as app. That would fasten updates by a wide margin. Also a business and private user brand with and without knox. And some kind of software selection system, that disables services or deinstalls them, if not needed like you won't need samsung link without a samsung tv.
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I've had my Note since November 2011 (well a Note as I lost one and proceeded to buy another one). I still love the phone, the screen size is great and the white Note still gets a lot of attention over a year later (most people call it or actually think it's the mini ipad). Well I just successfully ordered a 16gb Nexus 4, now I am trying to decide if I will give it as a gift and keep the note or try something new. Does anyone have both and can tell me the pros and cons?
I like the Notes screen size, sd card slot, TW and honestly that it's still a unique device however I like the specs on the Nexus 4, NFC, wireless charging, and LED light. I feel the note is actually better looking than the Nexus and although I heard the Nexus has great build quality it will just got lost in the sea of black phones versus my white Note. I am not too concerned with the 16gb, I used to have a 16gb iphone and never ran out of space. I honestly am torn, I am not sure if some of the new features outweigh the screen size, uniqueness, and TW? Any other opinions? I realize they will be bias in the Note section.
Also any comparison on cameras, I love how great the pictures come out on my Note in the dark. My friends with iphone 4 and iphone 4s always want me to use my camera since it takes such better pictures than their phones when the flash is on, I wonder how the nexus 4 camera compares to the original Note camera?
BTW don't care about removeable battery or the spen, I barely ever use it.
I suffer from a severe upgradeitis, and since Nexus 4 is actually affordable (which couldn't be said about the GNex), I am jumping ship and getting myself one. I will probably suffer because of the smaller screen (I really got fond of Note's size), and I loathe the lack of microSD slot, but I love everything else about the N4.
I am with the N4...
You'll suffer for:
smaller screen
less vivid colors
lower quality of the camera
spen (if you use it frequently)
You'll like:
Google updates
smaller screen (will let you use it with one hand)
your wallet
led notifications
project butter full compliancy
impressive response
PolishDude said:
I've had my Note since November 2011 (well a Note as I lost one and proceeded to buy another one). I still love the phone, the screen size is great and the white Note still gets a lot of attention over a year later (most people call it or actually think it's the mini ipad). Well I just successfully ordered a 16gb Nexus 4, now I am trying to decide if I will give it as a gift and keep the note or try something new. Does anyone have both and can tell me the pros and cons?
I like the Notes screen size, sd card slot, TW and honestly that it's still a unique device however I like the specs on the Nexus 4, NFC, wireless charging, and LED light. I feel the note is actually better looking than the Nexus and although I heard the Nexus has great build quality it will just got lost in the sea of black phones versus my white Note. I am not too concerned with the 16gb, I used to have a 16gb iphone and never ran out of space. I honestly am torn, I am not sure if some of the new features outweigh the screen size, uniqueness, and TW? Any other opinions? I realize they will be bias in the Note section.
Also any comparison on cameras, I love how great the pictures come out on my Note in the dark. My friends with iphone 4 and iphone 4s always want me to use my camera since it takes such better pictures than their phones when the flash is on, I wonder how the nexus 4 camera compares to the original Note camera?
BTW don't care about removeable battery or the spen, I barely ever use it.
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I was thinking about getting one, but i don't like the hardware. Smaller screen and it's actually thinner than the Note, but it looks like a damn brick. Most of you don't care about these things, but i do
My Nexus 4 arrives December 10th. For me, I'm going to miss the screen the most on the Note which I still think is one of the nicest to look at. My wife has the One X which everyone tells me is the best display on a phone, but we both prefer the colours and general impression of the Note, even if they are unnatural.
Biggest reason for the purchase is that I'm tired of Samsung's BS with software updates and closed-source platform. I want the latest version of Android when it's released, not months later. I use aosp anyway, have never liked TW.
Things I expect to like about the Nexus are the smaller size (I don't know why but after a year of having the Note I'm starting to find its size prohibitive more often than I used to) , LED notification, proper Butter, software updates and general speed.
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None of you is bothered by the lack of an SD card slot? To me, this is definitely a showstopper along with the non-removable battery (iPhone style for the lose).
My main concern about the Nexus 4 is that it is just generic Android. I don't like the bloat around the other implementations such as TouchWiz, but there's a couple of dealbreaker bugs in stock Android that Samsung, HTC etc have fixed. I don't know why Google haven't.
In particular the Email client can't work with Exchange when offline. Deleting emails on the device leaves them all on the server still, even after connection is established and sync run. Makes it pretty useless for managing emails on a commute. Samsung, HTC and even Motorola have fixed this problem, but it's still in the base Android and has been since at least ICS and possibly HC. Google don't seem interested.
It gets even worse with Imap, where it puts all the emails you've deleted back on the device once you sync. Again HTC and Motorola have fixed this, although Samsung has this problem.
Seems a basic issue, but means I won't recommend these devices for corporate use until it is fixed.
Nick
I don't care about non-removable battery, I only take out my battery if I need to access my SIM or SD card, so not a big deal for me.
Lack of SD slot and puny internal memory is a bummer for sure, but I've decided I can live with that. In return, I get stock android experience without the need of using custom ROMs (and let's face it - while CM10 for the Note is awesome, it has its issues), I'm always up to speed with new Android releases (instead of waiting for CM to catch up), awesome hjardware, and great looks. Fair tradeoff in my opinion. I will mourn the lack of SD slot and lack of FM Radio, but I'll deal with it. I got my Note last year only because it was carrier-subsided, and I couldn't afford to buy an unlocked GNex.
Got the phone in, so far I rooted it. I need to play around with it for a bit before I decide which phone I want to keep.
Yes I bought 3 nexus 4 mobile phones really amazing phones hyper fast feels good gonna rom it rip it root it to the max.... This baby will blast off!!!!
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I too have the nexus 4
Sold my galaxy note
And yes there's a difference in size but you get use to it
It's amazingly fast and already with 4.2.1
I'm rented by the price but lack of micro sd ruins it. Out of the 16 gig you will be lucky to have access to 11gig, as with other phones. I love my music and have a lot of roms on board so 11g is nothing.
From the man in your attic...
Can I just ask around a question, real quick. What's all that speed for? (casual) gaming?
Nexus 4 for me is the Android version of an iPhone, and unfortunately I am not meaning it as a compliment. As someone already stated in this topic, no sd card, no removable battery just means that if you want to take lots of pictures, videos, get your off-line Navigation with the entire Europe Maps (about 3.7GB) on your device there is not much left for anything else. I have seen a review where they state that only 12,3GB are available for the end user. That might be OK for some people, but I am not one of them.
Another thing is that if you want to use it a gamers phone, with this storage and HD games now available you will be able to get 3, maybe 4 big games in it, which is not something I would call ground breaking.
Last but not least, the battery in the phone will loose its charge over time. I am not a type of person to carry with me extra batteries and swap them around, but after some time everyone notices that their battery is not what it used to be. Specially when you want to buy / sell a second hand phone, being able to change the battery for a new one and enjoy your phone as when it was unpacked is something that Nexus 4 users will not be able to experience without getting their hands dirty and probably voiding the warranty of the device.
Sound Problems?
Does anyone here suffer from the Earpiece Defect in Nexus 4 that got mentioned in Mashable?
http://mashable.com/2012/11/25/google-nexus-4-defect/
Kortxero said:
None of you is bothered by the lack of an SD card slot? To me, this is definitely a showstopper along with the non-removable battery (iPhone style for the lose).
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I know the OP doesn't care, but for me this is the showstopper (which would only change if a reasonably priced 64gb model came out). As others have said, this is the iPhone of Androids, and not in a good way. The lack of removable battery gets me as well as I use my phone so much that I need either two batteries or an extended battery.
But the pros are Butter, good updates etc. But personally ill stick with the Note until the Note 3 (or something better arrives), mainly through choice than cost.
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iyousif said:
Does anyone here suffer from the Earpiece Defect in Nexus 4 that got mentioned in Mashable?
http://mashable.com/2012/11/25/google-nexus-4-defect/
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Well, I have a the distortion going on. Like, for the quality of the speaker to be good and not have any type of audio artifact, I need to keep the volume at 30% at all times. Anything higher, and certain pitches starts distorting/cracking. I guess one "fix" for this would be to change the kernel code to restrict the volume range of the speaker so that the maximum would be much lower. It could be the case that the kernel is actually overdriving the speaker module which results in the distortion. Whatever it is, it is definitely annoying to hear the edges of a person's voice gets distorted.
It's like they opted to use the cheapest POS speaker module they could find with an extremely limited range. The speaker on the Galaxy Note is a world better.
I have both....the screen size is something to get used to without a doubt. It is so tiny, but it is bearable. The constant updates from Google makes this phone worth it seeing how Samsung is a POS when it comes to releasing sources.
I'm also seeing some banding on the screen. Not sure if it's because of the screen or due to the image used (low bit).
I have an RMA on the way soon and will compare how the newer unit fares.
As NickC42 pointed out, I don't like stock Google android for few of these nitpicking stuffs -
1. Does not support speed dial? Hello Google!!??
2. Email/Calendar clients are white background black text. Why can't they have optional reverse color?
3. Oh I didn't know about those Exchange Email annoyances - total dealbreaker.
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willstay said:
As NickC42 pointed out, I don't like stock Google android for few of these nitpicking stuffs -
1. Does not support speed dial? Hello Google!!??
2. Email/Calendar clients are white background black text. Why can't they have optional reverse color?
3. Oh I didn't know about those Exchange Email annoyances - total dealbreaker.
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1.Install custom rom/mod
2.Install inverted gapps
3.No single issue with exchange.
All this can be solved in 10 mniutes. This is Android. Want everything out of the box? Buy iPhone.
My reasoning was why I do not like stock Android aka Nexus. If I have to install custom ROM, it defeats purpose of buying a Nexus device.
Edited: Ask yourself ahalford why do people buy Nexus device? Because they get update from God Google on day one. What is use of that update if it never fixes few of the basic things?
Edited 2: Maybe you have iPhone hidden inside your secret stash and know it enough to recommend to other people. How about giving us out of the box experience one gets from iPhone?
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Dear Folks,
I am about to buy and phone and i am reading and reading reviews about Nexus 6 vs Note 4, i don't know what to buy because after reading all that my mind is not working well, could you please help me to choose what phone should i have?
P.S i heard battery life on Nexus 6 is not good, is it true? :fingers-crossed:
Battery life is great on the Nexus 6 especially on Marshmallow. Under 30% a day with full time data and wifi and moderate use. I only use Battery Saving location, it"s accurate enough unless you're navigating your car.
As for the question itself, I too was choosing between these two, but I was searching for a device to develop on rather than just use it, so it clearly made the decision easy. First in Europe the official unlocked device is the Exynos one, I didn't want a locked device, it's a nuisance and since I was about to trip Knox the first day, it's a phone you can't sell later.
So the Note 4 has a better camera, it's not as huge (I had a Note 3 before), and the S-Pen that I never really used, but other people love it.
Also before I decided to buy a new phone for development, I was already using cm12.1 on my Note 3, and was looking for something even more stock than cyanogenmod. So there was not an option for me to go Touchwiz again.
So if you make up your mind what you are wanting this phone for, then I hope I helped to choose.
Dear @istperson all i am concerned about is little bit good battery life which help me to spend full day with wifi and data usage, i am not a developer, i also don't like S-Pen at all, i used S5 and touchwiz was lagging all the times, CM themer is available for Nexus 6 right? i think i will go with Nexus 6 its beautiful phone with large screen but i still find Note 4 screen more better than Nexus 6, what do you think?
Battery life for me is great 40% at least at the end of the day. Speakers are stellar as is the screen, camera is good can't complain.
I just bought an N6 about 2 months ago, and I have loved every second of it. I came from a Samsung Galaxy S3, so I would definitely not recommend buying a note 4. I am amazed that I was able to handle a GS3 for that long given how locked-down the software was. It took me no time to unlock, flash TWRP, root, and get a custom ROM running on my Nexus, whereas I was never able to do more than Xposed + root on my old phone. The software is amazing (and can be whatever you want it to be), the camera is nice (except for some strange autofocus bugs), and everything works like a charm.
As far as battery, I usually got 3 hrs SOT over about 18hrs (wifi, 4g, location, and always-on voice all turned on) running stock. With my current setup with Chroma ROM and kernel, I got 4hrs SOT over 18hrs yesterday even with a strange bug that caused mobile radio to suck up a third of my battery. Plus with Doze, standby time is unbeatable.
Hands down, go with a Nexus. I'm never going back.
I bought my nexus 6 a month ago and it is amazing! My battery life on stock was around 5 - 5.5 SOT, but now, after unlocking and rooting, with custom kernel and doze I get around 6-7 SOT!! Keep in mind that I don't use location, brightness is often on low levels, data is on 3G, but I am web surfing a lot, watching youtube, on tapatalk and whats app. Also nexus 6 will be among firsts to receive latest updates, patches and bug fixes straight from google. The speakers are really loud and great, and you get used to phone's size very fast. Camera is ok, nothing special, works just fine with third party apps...
Nexus screen is gorgeous (same resolution as Note 4 at Quad HD) but not as bright, most likely. Nexus will have no lag, and the battery should be no problem getting through a day
So here are my smartphones history
Blackberry Storm 2
Nokia N81 (not sure if after or before the BB)
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S
Samsung Galaxy SIII (Exynos)
Nokia Lumia 820
Sony Xperia Z1 (Got at launch)
Nokia Lumia 1520 (Still)
Sony Xperia Z3 (Pre ordered it)
The most fun I had was with the Arc S with it's limited hardware that made me tweak the hell off it, including overclocking and heatsink mods, I could easily beat my friends S2 in Antutu at the time and it was quite an achievement.
S3 was a great phone but I kinda hated it to it's death, hardware issues plagued my phone which slowly died after freezing daily and I got absolutely no support from Samsung. Whenever I sent the phone back to warranty it would come back reset or updated, that's all.
Z1 was such a Ferrari at the time, that camera, that power and battery, still waterproof wow! Still runs great on my mom's hands.
And then we have the Z3, well over a year in my hands but it's just the same thing as the Z1, I can't honestly feel the performance difference, it's thinner and I've grew tired of the white color, it's too common nowadays and fails to look "premium". (Didn't have the choice when I got this one)
I went to my carrier store to renew my plan, what caught my eye was the new S7 Edge Black. Shiny, pretty and bigger. Yes my long fingers grew tired of Z3's 5.2' screen. But what a bummer, sold out, only the regular S7 is available for now. I did try to play around with the S7 but kinda felt just another Android phone. Of course it's a powerhouse, and I'm surprised to see it struggle with it's own TouchWiz after closing a game.
Thing is, I am ready to throw U$250 with a 12 months contract on a phone but there doesn't seem to be anything new or revolutionary.
Don't even get me started on the fruit logo, I had one for a couple of weeks and gave it away to a friend.
Do you feel the same?
When will my phone last 2 days of driving streaming music through bluetooth and GPS.
Or maybe a whole day of gaming without charging.
Replace my Nikon for taking hundreds of low light photos.
Oh so many things, most of them are really power related. Lower power chips and displays vs higher capacity batteries.
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Same here regardong power my phone would be dead in minutes even though its still at 50%
You can try to change your battery. Hope it will serve better.
The problem with smartphones is that they do not last long and get replaced by another better device. Every year manufacturers release a phone with bigger specs but we are still stuck with battery life that won't last through the day with heavy use.
I never get why OEMs release phones yearly as these phones are more or less the same except probably the CPU is a bit different than the last one. What am getting at is that if OEMs didn't release phones that frequently then we wouldn't be that easily tired with our phones.
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Not tired of my Nexus 6. Not by a long shot. Love this thing!
This ^
Love my N6! And my new 360.
I don't see the need for the latest greatest personally, I usually only upgrade when a device gets damaged, or something new really catches my attention.
Though, I'm cheap and wait til the new stuff is older and cheap.
Still in love with my 1 month old galaxy S6
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Im tired about low ram in my f60. When I bought it I was thinking 1gb would be good enough but its terrible slow and often closing apps (ie when running bass booster + YouTube in background.
Just waiting for MM updates to roll out for the Note 4 so we can get a fully smoothed out CM13 and then I'll likely be flashing it up. Aside from VZ bloat though I can't really complain about the phone stock except for the default messaging app.
Right now I am tired of my phone huawei g7. It is in bootloop and I can not solve problem. This is the reason to come to this forum to search for help. I hope I will find it. Community seems nice, so I am optimistic!
Tired of my M8 which has a random shutdown happening at around 20% charge... however I'm definitely more tired of making useless posts to reach the threshold which will allow me to post a screenshot here.
Cheers,
Steve
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Sick of my Moto G3 but only 15 more minutes till the Samsung Unpacked event, then I'll probably know what I'll get next
I did get the S7 Edge with a cool Spigen Neo-Hybrid case, I swear I almost got the silver Iphone 6S but my carrier was only offering the 16GB variant in silver. So far it has been a great phone but as I mentioned in the first post it fails to impress me, the battery life is on bar with my old Z3 and some stuff like Samsung Pay is currently only available for those with Platinum Debt/Credit(A debt card that also works as a credit card that is ALSO a Platinum Credit Card which means you got to be a top tier customer) for a couple of banks in my Country.
So no Samsung Pay, at least for now, I do have a bank account on the biggest bank of my country and it's the second highest rated kind of account, my account manager serves me cookies with cappuccino and is available 12 hours a day... And damn, she's hot! But no Samsung Pay. Ok Let's skip this part, it's frustrating, Windows Phone Wallet has always worked fine so did Paypal.
The phone is beautiful, the most beautiful phone I ever had, it still struggles with Touchwiz at times, I wonder what kind of sorcery Samsung did behind it's Launcher and services because my Tegra Note with 1GB Ram never had any kind of lags on the launcher itself, talking about Ram, especially ram management, what on earth uses 4GB Ram without Whatsapp, Facebook, Instagram and most apps a normal person usually has? I have none of that! I use my phone for business, there's Teamviewer, VPN, Remote Desktop and Support Ticket apps that doesn't even run in background.
So, other than the odds, I flashed the unbranded rom to get the latest updates from Samsung quicker and they stopped in time, I'm stuck with the june security patch and lost the whitelist integration that would often call people funny names such as Donald Duck, I really cared about that one, I wanted to receive a call from Pluto.
I was cooking a ROM for my mom's Z1, pre rooted and debloated with Sony's latest Lolipop rom, it scored over 62k in Antutu with the CPU cores @ 2.42Ghz. That's fun and that's slowly dying as Android gets less customizable.
Well, if y'all are tired of your devices, a human here is in need of an android device :cyclops:
Really in need. :fingers-crossed:
Yeah, me too. I'm currently using Samsung S4, on JellyBean 4.3 (I don't like Kit-Kat) and it keeps restarting at random times. Maybe because I use a custom ROM on it
I'll never get tired of this phone
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Dear xda - Developers,
a few months ago my trusty Laptop broke and I started using my Tablet again. After getting myself an ergonomical bluetooth keyboard and upgrading to Lineag 14 I fell more and more in love with it. I never thaught, you could do some serious work on a tablet, but after a while I got my stuff done quicker and I was even more mobile, than on my Laptop.
However since a few weeks the battery on my Note 2014 only lats about 4 to 5 hours, while taking nearly a whole day to recharge (after a normal night which is about 8 hours for me, its at about 50%). It seems like the battery is giving up the ghosts to a point where I just cant really work on it any more.
So I am in search for a worthy replacement, but sadly the market seemed a little thin. I was very open minded and even looked beyond the usual suspects, considering Chuwi, Xiaomi etc. But reading reviews, every of those tablets revealed some mayor drawbacks. However I dont want to make a step back. I want my new tablet to have at least the same specs as my Galaxy Note 2014 (except the stylus support which i never used too much).
Sinnce Samsung has this 100 EUR cashback deal going on right now, I could however get a S2 for under 300 EUR, which seems to be a fair price. I am however concerned about its power and its battery life. The battery supposedly only offers around 6 hours and the SOC seems to be a very mediocre choice as far as the reviews are concerned. Also, it seems like many Samsung devices (like mine) seem to have battery issues after only 3 to years.
However I dont see a real alternative in the price range under 400 EUR. The would be the Asus Zenpad which however seems to suffer from heavy thermal throtteling. If the S2 really only offers 6 Hours of Battery life, I might even consider getting the iPad 2017, whcih would be sad since I really love many of my android apps AND Lineage OS.
So does any of you have experience in spendig a whole working day on the S2 or can maybe even name a reliable alternative instead of the ipad?
Hi,
I will go with Tab s2 9.7" since it close to your old device. I'm using 8.0 version. but to be honest i don't have any problem using it for the whole day. well at least not on very heavy usage. just normal work job word processing, excel and such. i rarely bring my notebook anymore. even presentation to customer will hook up the device to projector and present away. could last me at least around 8 hours heavy usage with around 10% battery left. hook up a fast powerbank it charge back in an hour.
Any way the problem here is the lack of development on lineage or custom roms nowadays. The exynos version T815 will have lineage. But if you have T819... which is the newer version of tab s2 release on 2016 still did not have any dev for lineage.
MrAnthony said:
Dear xda - Developers,
a few months ago my trusty Laptop broke and I started using my Tablet again. After getting myself an ergonomical bluetooth keyboard and upgrading to Lineag 14 I fell more and more in love with it. I never thaught, you could do some serious work on a tablet, but after a while I got my stuff done quicker and I was even more mobile, than on my Laptop.
However since a few weeks the battery on my Note 2014 only lats about 4 to 5 hours, while taking nearly a whole day to recharge (after a normal night which is about 8 hours for me, its at about 50%). It seems like the battery is giving up the ghosts to a point where I just cant really work on it any more.
So I am in search for a worthy replacement, but sadly the market seemed a little thin. I was very open minded and even looked beyond the usual suspects, considering Chuwi, Xiaomi etc. But reading reviews, every of those tablets revealed some mayor drawbacks. However I dont want to make a step back. I want my new tablet to have at least the same specs as my Galaxy Note 2014 (except the stylus support which i never used too much).
Sinnce Samsung has this 100 EUR cashback deal going on right now, I could however get a S2 for under 300 EUR, which seems to be a fair price. I am however concerned about its power and its battery life. The battery supposedly only offers around 6 hours and the SOC seems to be a very mediocre choice as far as the reviews are concerned. Also, it seems like many Samsung devices (like mine) seem to have battery issues after only 3 to years.
However I dont see a real alternative in the price range under 400 EUR. The would be the Asus Zenpad which however seems to suffer from heavy thermal throtteling. If the S2 really only offers 6 Hours of Battery life, I might even consider getting the iPad 2017, whcih would be sad since I really love many of my android apps AND Lineage OS.
So does any of you have experience in spendig a whole working day on the S2 or can maybe even name a reliable alternative instead of the ipad?
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Honestly go for the tab s3 but you can still go for the tab s2 but it's 2 years old by now ..
Androbots said:
Honestly go for the tab s3 but you can still go for the tab s2 but it's 2 years old by now ..
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OP mentioned Lineage, and there are no ROMs out for the S3. Personally I won't but any device that does't have Lineage (previously CM). I actually just ordered a Tab S2 (T813) this morning to replace my Nexus 7 (2013). They dropped to $349 on Amazon this morning.
Same reason I bought an Honor 5x even though the 6x was out. When the OnePlus5 gets Official Lineage, that may replace my Nexus 5X.
Just saying that maybe a reason to go with the S2, just as there is ROMs available now.
S3 simply is a crappy value for money deal. Its 620 EUR around here for the 32 GB version. For aroud 500 EUR I can get an iPad pro 9.7. I am no apple faboy mind you, but according to all tests the iPad blows the TabS 3 out of the water in every aspect. Also in some benchmarks its supposedly around 150% faster. Also I get the slight feeling that the batterys of many samsung-devices start to degenerate shortly the warranty is over....
Even I, who is a big Android fan, would take the iPad in this case...
I'm in exactly the same situation.
I don't really care about the pen anymore, so I'm opting for the Tab S2 series.
However, LineageOS is still a problem, there doesn't seem to be anything for the Snapdragon model (T819) which is the one that's usually sold here.
Yeah.
It really was a great phone.
How long now? 4 years? 5?
The screen is still fantastic. Big and wide and great definition and deep blacks.
The pen is not trying to do too many things.
The back cover comes off - and there's the battery.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
And the lovely metal work is elegant all the time.
It still manages all the games fine, boots fast, is quick with apps.
It's the best ok phone I've had - and I've had them all.
The note 10 is the first one that comes close. I like that they've kept it slim
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
Why, of course, the battery is sealed now. Otherwise not much reason to upgrade year on year anymore. Phones are not leaps and bounds better from a few years ago. Only add gimmicks like in screen finger reader. Older flagship speed is enough if you don't play games. This world is sad.
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Long may it last!
I haven't found an equivalent replacement yet. Sadly, iR control in restaurant/bar TVs seems to be declining...
I have the SM-N910C and I live in Brazil.
I bought it new in 2016 and until today never gave problem. The battery is still great. I almost bought Note 8 or 9 recently, as I needed more internal memory, but solved the problem by going back to Android 5.1.1 (WanamLite, which I've used once for a long time).
I was almost 9 Gb free. Now you will be much longer with me. The device is fantastic.
N910F is still my daily driver! I have modded the cr*p out of it, feels so good, fast, smooth. Hope to be able to use it for 4 to 5 more years.
Bought a LG V20 for my girlfriend, 130 euro. Might also be an option for me, in case my Note 4 breaks down.
BACK BUTTON TO KILL app (only works once)
I fully agree with you aboyut Note4. I bought my wife one and she wanted a 10. I told her I could make the guts do the same thing (plus I can't see spending arms and legs for the most rapidly depreciating item). I've got 128 memory card, one of those massive multiple day batteries, round magnet charger mini USB that jumps on (no plugging), happy as a clam!
Does anyone on earth know of an apk that won't turn off after 1 use back button to kill app? That's my favorite function and I can't stand not being able to close them as I finish except those I return to. I have the apk but I have to keep going into settings, turning it back on for a one time use. Ive searched programming apps but there's none on earth I see that will do the job, and my OS doesn't allow it (I'm still trying to get a custom ROM but having no luck, bricked my other phone yesterday (I think bad CPU sector somewhere based on symptoms).
Hello, I'm currently on a OnePlus 5 but think that it's really overrated coming from my mod friendly S5 mini. I plan on maybe going back to an older phone, because I don't really need performance for anything except Dolphin and Citra Emulator (the MMJ variants of course) but I'd be willing to sacrifice it, since I've seen myself using it only rarely anyway, but I'm a little concerned about 1. The community, since it's an old phone, even though it's a really loved phone. 2. The stylus - does it work on custom ROMs? 3. The battery - I'd definitely buy a 3rd party battery, since the originals will have lost a LOT of capacity, but going from a 10nm SoC (SD 835) to a 20nm one (Exynos 5433) is a little concerning. (4. The kernel and modding sector - Are there good kernels from honest people, not guys like franciscofranco, and mods?) I'd really appreciate answers, maybe I could be helpful because I'm still very young but pretty experienced with modding, development and that stuff, even though I don't even own an x86 desktop and don't even speak english as a native language.
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
GameShadow7 said:
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
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My depend on what version N4 you have?
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GameShadow7 said:
The Note 4 ... a great phone, the best I've ever had! Using it for 4 years now. If it breaks I will upgrade to the Samsung Xcover 4s. It also has a removable battery and the phone looks very reliable. But unfortunately no customs ROMs avaible for it now..
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It may depend on what version of the Note 4 you have or if you know how to port roms. For instance, i have a n910p and locked to the fused5,binary4 aboot preventing downgreading the bootloader. So stuck on 6.0 MM, so thrat sucks but the n910f is very similar in compatibility so that opens up other options. Theres also a GRX touchwiz home mod V8 that is pretty cool.
Im running a combination of Dtux Rom with an N7 custum kernel by freeza r61 and GRX V8 along with. alll sorts of ports from different develops. Thats just part of what I have done with the old N4.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...are-customizations-mods-roms-kernels-t3960353
Still Have My Note 4 & Note 7
The Note 4 with Android 6 still serves very nicely as a work phone. At the office, it does everything I need very well. The Note 4 is a better phone than my mom's Galaxy J7 from 2018. But for fun and photography, my Note 7 rocks. Those two Note models remain my favorite. I gave my Note 8 to my wife.
kolembo said:
Yeah.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
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Could you expand on the camera cover statement please Kolembo ... how, from where ?
Agree wholeheartedly ... The Note 4 still rocks,
Cheers .... Alan.
Note 4 was best choice am happy with my note 4
Now am using s10 plus & note 4 ♡
Note 4 is still my favorite of all phones I have had.
I am considering the Xiaomi Mi 9 lite.
It has quite a lot of features of the Note 4: iR port, SD card, oled, earphone plug.
No removable battery, no pen, no barometer. Oh, and doesn't cover so many bands. B12 seems missing.
Would also have some advantages over Note 4: faster, security updates, bigger screen, FM radio (ha), longer battery life, better bluetooth.
I love my note 4. It covers so many functions such as tv remote, portable mp3 player, book reader and movie player. I also love the fact that I can swap out deodexed roms and custom roms at will to enhance the device's longetivity. I do believe that there is no other phone quite like it on the market so I guess thats why I bought a back up note 4 many years ago ??
Yup we're still building
10 Android ROMs and counting.
Plus Ubuntu touch !
I am wondering if my Note 4 is finally dead. I love the phone and was hoping to still be using it but a few hours ago the phone just froze so I just removed the battery. After that, I put the battery back in and it wouldn't power up. I left the battery out for a 20-30 mintues and then put it back it. It was able to power on but after the Tmobil splash screen it goes to the screen before going to the home screen and when I swipe nothing happens. I am afraid my Note has finally given up after years of service. Is everyone else's Note 4 still kicking?
kolembo said:
Yeah.
It really was a great phone.
How long now? 4 years? 5?
The screen is still fantastic. Big and wide and great definition and deep blacks.
The pen is not trying to do too many things.
The back cover comes off - and there's the battery.
Change the camera lens cover and the photographs are still excellent.
And the lovely metal work is elegant all the time.
It still manages all the games fine, boots fast, is quick with apps.
It's the best ok phone I've had - and I've had them all.
The note 10 is the first one that comes close. I like that they've kept it slim
But the Note 4 still rocks.
Ok. Bye!
Let me know what you think!
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After several update over last year the phone started to be very slow. The final blow came beginning Dec 2019 when it did restart by itself and did install then 1 app. Usually will ask me for this. Since then the battery drains 10 times faster. So it is obvious that the update was meant to make me buy a new phone... But I like soo much the note 4.
First I did a factory resent. Did not help at all. Then I did flash it with Odin - now it works soooo fast, better than the new phones. But the battery drain continues. Fully charged in the evening I leave it in flight mode. In the morning the battery is only 50%. And this is with a new original Samsung battery I just bought. Will a re-flash with nand erase help? Does anyone have experience with this?
Andrey12 said:
After several update over last year the phone started to be very slow. The final blow came beginning Dec 2019 when it did restart by itself and did install then 1 app. Usually will ask me for this. Since then the battery drains 10 times faster. So it is obvious that the update was meant to make me buy a new phone... But I like soo much the note 4.
First I did a factory resent. Did not help at all. Then I did flash it with Odin - now it works soooo fast, better than the new phones. But the battery drain continues. Fully charged in the evening I leave it in flight mode. In the morning the battery is only 50%. And this is with a new original Samsung battery I just bought. Will a re-flash with nand erase help? Does anyone have experience with this?
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Is it hard for you to find or buy another Note 4 battery? I know it's old by today's standards but I would assume there might still be some new third-party batteries for it. I still have 2 new batteries from Anker when bought two extra for the device a year or two ago. Good luck on trying to find something.