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Will Google ends support for 2 year old nexus 7..??
Can we see next major android version (4.5/5.0) for our grouper..??
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Official will probably stop when the last revision of KitKat is released. However no one really knows but Google. Worst case in a week after 4.5 or 5.0 is released (if those are to be believed) source will be pushed to AOSP and everyone here will be building ROMs.
I mean even my old Kindle Fire (otter) runs Pac-Man 4.4.2...
While my Nexus 5 and 7 (2012 grouper) are both running 4.4.3
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Bit dubious about post-Google updates myself. NVidia has no track record of being friendly to supporting the development community when they aren't forced to. Once Google stops providing binary blob updates, you can bet NVidia will forget that this tablet ever existed and developers will have nothing to work with to support future hardware upgrades.
Either that, or I'm still just a bit bitter over the Tegra 2 G2X.
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Bit dubious about post-Google updates myself. NVidia has no track record of being friendly to supporting the development community when they aren't forced to. Once Google stops providing binary blob updates, you can bet NVidia will forget that this tablet ever existed and developers will have nothing to work with to support future hardware upgrades.
Either that, or I'm still just a bit bitter over the Tegra 2 G2X.
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I hear you there
But I have hope
Our Nexus 7 will prevail through it all!
Maybe then we will have some brave soul working on Nvidia 3.4.35 kernel for tegra3
This can be a good starting point
this is the last update.....
Very likely the last update, though people don't have the same upgrade path for tablets that they do for phones, you won't necessarily change it as regularly.
It's not like your contract is up after 2 years and you get another one.
I'm not planning on getting another tablet any time soon, so longer support would be great, though I doubt it'll happen.
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Nexus 7 never received a useful update anyway.
Every single update made the tablet slower and more buggy.
So it is a good thing not to have updates anymore. Nothing to worry about there.
calyxim said:
Nexus 7 never received a useful update anyway.
Every single update made the tablet slower and more buggy.
So it is a good thing not to have updates anymore. Nothing to worry about there.
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I'd disagree as the 4.3 update was good adding TRIM which sped things up for my Nexus
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I'd disagree as the 4.3 update was good adding TRIM which sped things up for my Nexus
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:highfive: 4.3 was a very solid version. When I put my Nexus 4 back in daily driver service for a short while, 4.4 had been out for some time, but I went to 4.3 due to the reliability and smooth feel...
The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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pharpe said:
The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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nexus 7 2013 is in production, not the 2012.
lotherius said:
nexus 7 2013 is in production, not the 2012.
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correct me if I'm wrong but you can still buy it in the Google Play Store
The Nexus 7 2012
USBhost said:
correct me if I'm wrong but you can still buy it in the Google Play Store
The Nexus 7 2012
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You're wrong.
You can still find Nexus 7 2012 for sale... not at Google Play, however.
IMHO - the last KitKat update will be the end of service life for Nexus 7 2012. N7 2013 will get through the L named release.
Looking very much like 4.4.3 will be the last 'official' update, based on the below news...
4.4.3 is running well on my N7, so can't complain too much, plus there are plenty of custom ROMs and mods to play with. Just wonder how this will affect future custom ROMs/ports as they will be created to run with ART and so possibly a no-go... :crying:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/breaking-next-major-version-of-android-to-finally-remove-dalvik-and-set-art-as-default/
I think we may get the 4.4.4
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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I think we may get the 4.4.4
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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We already got 4.4.4, the update is in that link . OTA is just a method to update, and it will come eventually
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We already got 4.4.4, the update is in that link . OTA is just a method to update, and it will come eventually
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We only had the 4.4.3 only for a few weeks
Micromax Canvas A1 Android One smartphone receiving update to Lollipop 5.1 But Not our Nexus 4.
Not only micromax android one, Karbonn and spice are too receiving OTA 5.1 update, Cheap 1Gb ram phone getting updates and nexus the highend phone won't. I thought my phone get better support than Micromax Spice and Karbonn. But wow I am totally surprised
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Micromax Canvas A1 Android One smartphone receiving update to Lollipop 5.1 But Not our Nexus 4.
Not only micromax android one, Karbonn and spice are too receiving OTA 5.1 update, Cheap 1Gb ram phone getting updates and nexus the highend phone won't. I thought my phone get better support than Micromax Spice and Karbonn. But wow I am totally surprised
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If you had tried to search, you will find that a google employee had said that the Nexus 4 WILL get 5.1.
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If you had tried to search, you will find that a google employee had said that the Nexus 4 WILL get 5.1.
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But we didn't get yet, Android One get.... I think you totally missed my point.. My point is How the hell Micromax type of phones get updates before Nexus 4.
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But we didn't get yet, Android One get.... I think you totally missed my point.. My point is How the hell Micromax type of phones get updates before Nexus 4.
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Your title is misleading, won't implying that we will never get it
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But we didn't get yet, Android One get.... I think you totally missed my point.. My point is How the hell Micromax type of phones get updates before Nexus 4.
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Android One:
Retail availability: September, 2014
Nexus 4:
First released: November, 2012
Discontinued: November 1, 2013
What device do you think google priorize?
If was my decision, definitely Android One.
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Android One:
Retail availability: September, 2014
Nexus 4:
First released: November, 2012
Discontinued: November 1, 2013
What device do you think google priorize?
If was my decision, definitely Android One.
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what about nexus 5?
Nov 2013 - Release Date
if nexus 5 receive Android One receive update, Then why not Nexus 4? Just because it release a year before ? what about nexus flagship?
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what about nexus 5?
Nov 2013 - Release Date
if nexus 5 receive Android One receive update, Then why not Nexus 4? Just because it release a year before ? what about nexus flagship?
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The gnex is only one year older than n4 but it didn't receive kitkat, so yes, just because it was released a year before.
Also, Nexus 7 2013 users still don't get 5.1
BTW, I prefer a tested bug free 5.1 update because it could be the last update Nexus 4 receive
I would be absolutely SHOCKED if we got even one more update after 5.1. I wasn't even expecting it to get that, but I think Google just wants the major bugs patched before they send it to EOL land so at least they're leaving it on a stable build.
I would be shocked if updates are stopped before it is impossible for technical reasons?!
HTC used to abandon one year old phones without technical reasons.
It cost money to keep updating so they will stop whenever they feel like it. The hardware is to a point now where it will support updates a lot longer than it used to.
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Yes but HTC is not Google. And it does not cost anything if done right. My PC is from 2007 and still gets updates. And there are much more different PCs than Nexus devices. Its all about good SW design and hardware abstraction, isn't it?
Um, the Nexus 7, which is older got it already.
Android 5.1 launched on Android One devices, not on a Nexus (Indonesian One devices shipped with 5.1 almost a month before any Nexus got it.)
The Indian devices never got 5.0; so this is straight from KitKat.
Finally, the 4 will get it. Just be patient. Even the 9 and the newer 7 haven't gotten it, so comparing it against AO is a bit of cherry-picking.
Frankly, we're damn lucky we got 5.0 .
I was 100% certain that 4.4.4. was the EOL point for the Nexus 4.
I'll get a good laugh if my N4 gets the update before my new N9 though.
this is nexus !!
you can use the big world of android rom and ubuntu and firefox os .
Dont worry .
The story is not over yet .
Hope Google not abandon Nexus 4
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Hope Google not abandon Nexus 4
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I'm afraid they inevitably will, but I'm sure the devs will take good care of it. Plus, devs often optimise kernels and roms so they are better than what Google offers.
I've contacted a mod to close this thread. It's so ridiculous some times...
https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/mako/+/android-5.1.0_r3
Be patient people....
Further discussions here please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/android-5-0-discussions-rumors-t2780976
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Is anyone here watching the Google I/O? I think the new Android M stuff looks really exciting, but if I've understood them correctly, the Nexus 4 won't get it officially (I think only devices from Nexus 5 upwards were listed, but I wasn't fully concentrated on the stream when it was mentioned).
If the Nexus 4 will be excluded from Android M, how likely is it going to be that it will be ported unofficially, and how good are these ports usually quality-wise? I would really like to stay with the N4 for a while, the hardware is still really good in my opinion.
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Is anyone here watching the Google I/O? I think the new Android M stuff looks really exciting, but if I've understood them correctly, the Nexus 4 won't get it officially (I think only devices from Nexus 5 upwards were listed, but I wasn't fully concentrated on the stream when it was mentioned).
If the Nexus 4 will be excluded from Android M, how likely is it going to be that it will be ported unofficially, and how good are these ports usually quality-wise? I would really like to stay with the N4 for a while, the hardware is still really good in my opinion.
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The I/O was talking about dev previews for 5,6,9, and Player. Hoping M arrives on the Nexus 4. Yet, Apple is still supporting a 4 year old phone with only 512MB of ram.
I.m lookimg forward for M. BUT I love my N4 with lollipop so it wont be end of days for me if we dont get M N4 with L is all that i wanted from a phone.
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The I/O was talking about dev previews for 5,6,9, and Player. Hoping M arrives on the Nexus 4. Yet, Apple is still supporting a 4 year old phone with only 512MB of ram.
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You're right, it was about the dev previews. I hope we will know more by the end of the I/O. Would be a shame if they aren't gonna update the Nexus 4 as the hardware seems completely capable of handling Android M (i don't really notice a lot of a difference in performance even comparing my 2.5 year old encrypted N4 to a brand new Galaxy S6).
You probably can't really compare a Nexus device with an Apple device though, Apple generally seems a lot more consumer-friendly in that regard (also in terms of repairs and so on). The rumors for Google were, that Android devices will get the newest Android updates for 2 years, and security updates for another year after that. Let's see if this turns out to be true or not..
Nexus support periods are going very rigid.. N4 most likely won't get M. Time to buy a new phone I guess.
We will not have Android M Dev Preview, much less the final version.
The way is a super-mega-awesome-dev to the port of M Dev Preview for us. I find to be difficult because there are not M Preview for Nexus 7 2013 to help a little, which has a similar hardware with our old N4.
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We will not have Android M Dev Preview, much less the final version.
The way is a super-mega-awesome-dev to the port of M Dev Preview for us. I find to be difficult because there are not M Preview for Nexus 7 2013 to help a little, which has a similar hardware with our old N4.
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This was never confirmed though, right? We won't get the Dev Preview for the Nexus 4, but neither did we get that for Lollipop, if I recall correctly (only N5 and N7 did, I think).
jb91 said:
This was never confirmed though, right? We won't get the Dev Preview for the Nexus 4, but neither did we get that for Lollipop, if I recall correctly (only N5 and N7 did, I think).
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Yep, only Nexus 5 and 7 2013 got the L preview, but N7 2012 and N4 ended up getting the Lollipop update in the end.
Well, we did have an L Preview ported to Nexus 4, courtesy of @sykopompos, I see no reason why one wouldn't do the same for M Preview as well
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Well, we did have an L Preview ported to Nexus 4, courtesy of @sykopompos, I see no reason why one wouldn't do the same for M Preview as well
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61029121&postcount=39169
If not a port of a factory image, the Nexus 4 will still get custom ROM support with M. If Devs can build CM12.1 on devices that never got past Jellybean, getting M on the Nexus 4 should be a cinch in comparison.
I'd be surprised if the N4 got official M from Google. The word is that from now on Nexuses will get 2 years of updates. Us N4 owners are just lucky that we were given a device so awesome it's still capable and relevant 2.5 (and counting) years later.
It would be awesome if we get it....there no question of the hardware being capable as there are no major changes, i guess.
@sykopompos
I don't know if it helps, but I downloaded Nexus 5 latest 5.1.1 (LMY48B) factory images and Nexus 5 - Preview M images and extracted both of them.
I found out that the bootloader and radio are exactly the same. I extracted the system.img from both of this builds and found out this differences:
http://pastebin.com/gLxpvWwT
I was thinking to download Nexus 4 latest 5.1.1 factory images and try to modify system.img based on this differences, it's a good start ? I think that I will need some kernel modifications (boot.img) after this steps, right?
Nexus 4 officially will NOT get M
https://plus.google.com/+AndreasProschofsky/posts/eH5z8VzqKfB
It's time to say bye for Nexus 4
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@sykopompos
I don't know if it helps, but I downloaded Nexus 5 latest 5.1.1 (LMY48B) factory images and Nexus 5 - Preview M images and extracted both of them.
I found out that the bootloader and radio are exactly the same. I extracted the system.img from both of this builds and found out this differences:
http://pastebin.com/gLxpvWwT
I was thinking to download Nexus 4 latest 5.1.1 factory images and try to modify system.img based on this differences, it's a good start ? I think that I will need some kernel modifications (boot.img) after this steps, right?
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From the diff it doesn't look as tough as L so I guess it is going be atleast 50% less headbangs for @sykopompos .
Come on Señor
Relax, gonna be just fine, n4 and n7 2013 use nearly same proprietary blobs (not just gpu, but gps and NFC), so porting that to n4 will be piece of cake.
From the diff it doesn't look as tough as L so I guess it is going be atleast 50% less headbangs for @sykopompos .
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I doubt it'll even be 10%. M is nothing half as major as L.
It is almost certain that we won't get official M. We n4 users were lucky to get 5.1, not just ending at 5.0.
However, high quality ports from N7 or N5 will be available(imo). We won't have any trouble with custom rom support.
I am sure an awesome dev with help us out. Heck, my screen on my Galaxy S 4G (yes, prior to the S2) cracked last fall, I was running 4.4.4 ports on hardware with the terrible stats of the SGS4G thanks to the dev Ninjas at XDA.
I have no worries that while we might not get factory, we will get an as good, if not better port.
Hello my fellow Nexus 5 owners, lovers, we gather here for one request: Android N official for Nexus 5. There are many rumors that Marshmallow will be the last official Android version for Nexus 5. Marshmallow has been out for a while but the major release of Android N comes to fast. Nexus 5 in my opinion is still, the best Nexus phone. I'm not calling for lifetime support, only this version. Google gave us nearly no time enjoying official support, and immediately they take it from us. With all the love of Android, I ask everyone, to encourage Google to make the last official Android version, for the Nexus 5.
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Hello my fellow Nexus 5 owners, lovers, we gather here for one request: Android N official for Nexus 5. There are many rumors that Marshmallow will be the last official Android version for Nexus 5. Marshmallow has been out for a while but the major release of Android N comes to fast. Nexus 5 in my opinion is still, the best Nexus phone. I'm not calling for lifetime support, only this version. Google gave us nearly no time enjoying official support, and immediately they take it from us. With all the love of Android, I ask everyone, to encourage Google to make the last official Android version, for the Nexus 5.
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Oh come on... Another one..
Stop with wasting your time, Google doesn't care about how much people would like to have an official Android N release for their Nexus 5. They have given us the promised support time for Android updates, they owe us nothing. We already had that guy who started a petition which is pointless because Google probably won't even see it. So quit this BS and just keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best. You won't be able to make sure that Google will give the Nexus 5 just one more update, they may will or maybe not.
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Hello my fellow Nexus 5 owners, lovers, we gather here for one request: Android N official for Nexus 5. There are many rumors that Marshmallow will be the last official Android version for Nexus 5. Marshmallow has been out for a while but the major release of Android N comes to fast. Nexus 5 in my opinion is still, the best Nexus phone. I'm not calling for lifetime support, only this version. Google gave us nearly no time enjoying official support, and immediately they take it from us. With all the love of Android, I ask everyone, to encourage Google to make the last official Android version, for the Nexus 5.
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Google gives every Nexus device 2 years of support on average. I wouldn't call that "nearly no time enjoying official support". They're unlikely to even consider a request to update a device that reached it's EOL for major updates almost a year ago. The unofficial development community for this device continues to thrive nevertheless, so you will most likely get an unofficial N build that's more than good enough for daily use.
This device had its time, but it EOL now. It'll still have unofficial updates for a foreseeable future, but if official updates matter more, then you'll need to move to a newer device. Personally, I don't really care too much about the support because if I did, I would have bought a N5X instead of the N5 a couple months back when I had the choice.
dont worry cm and aosp will not let us down , just keep the faith
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I'm going to wait and see what happens on the official updates front for Android N. Personally, I'd like to see it for the Nexus 5 but if it doesn't roll out for this phone right now, I'll probably be going to Cyanogenmod. That's what I'm running now because I cannot stand the Layers app. Prefer CM Themes to Layers.
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If Google provides Android N, they will feel obliged to support it with N bug fixes. This will force support for another six months as bugs are ironed out.
Why do you need to call Google? We have used our official support time which is 2-years. Also, do we need their official support? CM is with us.
Android N Preview 4 (NPD56N) for Nexus 5
See link - https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/hammerhead-kernel/+/android-n-preview-4
and - https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/hammerhead/+/android-n-preview-4
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Android N Preview 4 (NPD56N) for Nexus 5
See link - https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/hammerhead-kernel/+/android-n-preview-4
and - https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/hammerhead/+/android-n-preview-4
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whoa!! is this correct?
did i just look at the posted kernel and image for android N for nexus 5 - hammerhead?
if this is indeed correct, maybe the nexus 5 - hammerhead will get android N then.
This was available for 2 weeks. N5 receives all the N-preview branches. Now'll be released one of two beta's, we'll see if some of source'll be available for our phones
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This was available for 2 weeks. N5 receives all the N-preview branches. Now'll be released one of two beta's, we'll see if some of source'll be available for our phones
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Good news! :good:
Bad news. Developer prewiew 5 is out. N5 didn't receive it.
Отправлено с моего Nexus 5 через Tapatalk
N4 received final LP preview when Lollipop have nearly final stage? No. We need to wait one month more.
Ok, I definitely didn't post this. Someone might have used my Nexus 5 and post this. Even though it racks up quite a conversation for you guys, don't say I'm stupid whatsoever, cus it wasn't me! If you think it IS me, that's your business, and I don't care. I'm telling the truth.
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Ok, I definitely didn't post this. Someone might have used my Nexus 5 and post this. Even though it racks up quite a conversation for you guys, don't say I'm stupid whatsoever, cus it wasn't me! If you think it IS me, that's your business, and I don't care. I'm telling the truth.
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Nexus 5 and nexus 7 2013 are both dead I guarantee it. The nexus 4 and nexus 10 had enough power for marshmallow but they didn't get it. I expect the 2013 devices to get the ax this year. Gotta wonder though why everyone is so eager to hold on to the nexus 5? I mean I still have mine as an emergency backup phone but the battery life is gawd awful and camera is so mediocre compared to new phones. I'm rocking a 6p currently and it's world's ahead of the old 5!
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Nexus 5 and nexus 7 2013 are both dead I guarantee it. The nexus 4 and nexus 10 had enough power for marshmallow but they didn't get it. I expect the 2013 devices to get the ax this year. Gotta wonder though why everyone is so eager to hold on to the nexus 5? I mean I still have mine as an emergency backup phone but the battery life is gawd awful and camera is so mediocre compared to new phones. I'm rocking a 6p currently and it's world's ahead of the old 5!
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Sorry didn't mean to quote you
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Maybe because with the improvements to Doze and background processing, the Nexus 5's battery life would see significant improvements?
Cor-master said:
Nexus 5 and nexus 7 2013 are both dead I guarantee it. The nexus 4 and nexus 10 had enough power for marshmallow but they didn't get it. I expect the 2013 devices to get the ax this year. Gotta wonder though why everyone is so eager to hold on to the nexus 5? I mean I still have mine as an emergency backup phone but the battery life is gawd awful and camera is so mediocre compared to new phones. I'm rocking a 6p currently and it's world's ahead of the old 5!
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Another one saying things they know nothing about. You can't guarantee anyone what you said. You know nothing for sure like everyone else.
Yes it will be very unlikely that the nexus get's one more update but it may will happen, there is a small chance.
Oh yeah it'll get it because you know the 2012 nexuses totally got marshmallow from Google last year /sarcasm.
According to Wikipedia Android 7 was released 22 August this year.
Android 7.0 Nougat was officially released on August 22, 2016, with the Nexus 6, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nexus 9, Nexus Player, Pixel C and General Mobile 4G as the first devices to receive the update.[4]
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however, via the OTA update there is no offering beeing done up to now like in the past when a new android came out also on the google developers page is no listing of the android 7 to be found.
Am I overlooking something here ? or is the Wikipedia info incorrect ? Or has the update been cancelled perhaps for the Nexus 6 ?
Please Enlighten me!
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According to Wikipedia Android 7 was released 22 september this year.
however, via the OTA update there is no offering beeing done up to now like in the past when a new android came out also on the google developers page is no listing of the android 7 to be found.
Am I overlooking something here ? or is the Wikipedia info incorrect ? Or has the update been cancelled perhaps for the Nexus 6 ?
Please Enlighten me!
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Delayed for Nexus 6 and Nexus 6P due to likely baseband (radio) issues
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Delayed for Nexus 6 and Nexus 6P due to likely baseband (radio) issues
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Do you have an URL of that statement for me please cause google search isn't returning it for me unfortunately.
Thanks!
Its not out yet...Check the Nexus factory images..When it shows up there, we'll all have it.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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Delayed for Nexus 6 and Nexus 6P due to likely baseband (radio) issues
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Don't you mean Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 LTE? I received the update on my Nexus 6P on 8/22.
The speculation about base-band or Qualcom drivers is just that, speculation. Google only knows the real reason and we will likely never officially know why. When it comes, it comes.
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Don't you mean Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 LTE? I received the update on my Nexus 6P on 8/22.
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No, he's right. The 6P update was pulled, apparently due to a nasty wakelock.
Could be -- my 3+ days of battery life has been reduced to about 26 hours, but I didn't attribute it to 7.0. I was in the beta program for all of the previews and this did not happen until after the full release OTA was installed. I also experienced connectivity issues with Google+ today, which was odd.
answered. Closed.