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HTC Diamond G-Sensor - New Use IDEA!!! MP3 Playback speed adjustment for runners

Hi ...
Various manufacturers have come up with sensors and software (even special running shoes) as accessories to iPod etc to allow beat analysis + playback speed modification based on a runners pace (detected by a pedometor).
I'm thinking, as a runner, and an owner of the very capable Diamond, that the G-Sensor could do this very job.
I personally run, using the Diamond as an MP3 player, with it mounted in a tiny arm band holder.
The very nature of the position of the phone will produce "G" signals which will match the pace of my running.
If this was combined with a fairly standard "Beat analysis" algorithm in an MP3 player, it should be possible to adjust the speed of MP3 playback (within margains) to match the running pace.
Does this sound like a reasonable idea ?
If so, is there anyone out there that has the skill and time to develop such an application ?
I'm sure it would be very popular.
I have lots of ideas about how it would work and what parameters would be useful to adjust etc.
Looking forward to any responses.

Interesting, and probably the movement data could be used for a pedometer as well, could be a battery efficient way to track running distance.
I just set up yesterday my Diamond to play MP3's via WMP and track my running with RunGPS at the same time, using the wired remote to control the tracks. Very cool. If you are a serious runner/cyclist I suggest you try RunGPS, you can export to google maps etc but the feature I like the most is you can get voice announcements over your headphones e.g. announce your current speed, average speed, distance run etc etc every 5 minutes. I have just started training for my first marathon so it's good to help me learn to keep a constant pace (aim is to finish under 4 hours, and most importantly just to finish....)
GPS obviously hits the battery life, running for 1.5 hours yesterday with rungps and mp3 playing took my (Stock) battery from 100% to 50%.

Hiya Bigruss ...
I've taken a look at the trial version of RunGPS - it looks great. I'll give it a try this afternoon on my half-marathon training run (ING Amsterdam).
I see this chap has plans to add a pedometer function based on the G-Sensor in his very nice GPS Cycle Computer software.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423
I'll keep an eye on that!

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A few more ideas on this ...
I would imagine that the G-Sensor / Pedometer area isn't too difficult, as mounting the phone on the arm creates a steady swinging action in direct correlation to your pace.
BUT the MP3 adjust side requires several things :-
1) An MP3 player that will adjust playback speed without pitch adjustment. (Many do this now within reasonable limites, but not the built in one).
2) A beat analysis program to establish where possible a number of BPM in the music (easier with dance music etc) - similar algorithm used in all the visualizations for WMP etc.
3) G-Sensor based pace rate analysis.
4) Interface between the two with some adjust parameters from the user.
I think it's pretty complicated! But it would make the diamond a seriously impressive partner to the thousands of runners out there.
Anyone up for the challenge ?
P.

The point of the NookColor/tablets in general?

I absolutely love the NookColor. Its got a great design and does way more than it was intended to, thanks to the android community and developers and ofcourse even Barnes&Noble for their official Froyo release.
However, I have had it for a couple of months now. Messed around heaps, tried all the roms and the novelty is running out and I just dont know what to use it for anymore. I never actually used it much apart from for trying out new roms.
The gadgets I find myself using most on a daily basis:
- For calling and texting, I use my HTC Buzz/Wildfire.
- Due to Android's poor music capabilities and the size of the NookColor, I still use my iPod touch for on the go music.
- And I still find myself using my laptop for internet and doing university work.
This is not meant to be a complain-session but I was just wondering what you guys find yourself using your NookColor/tablets mostly for? What makes you go back to using it on a daily basis?
Just trying to find some uses for rejuvenating my interest and actually using the NookColor more on a daily basis.
Do we really need to fill the "gap between the smartphones and laptops"? Does a gap even exist?

Reading a book, watching videos are the soul reason.

Yeah, a lot easier to carry CFD/fluid mechanics/thermodynamics books in pdf format than physical format Also, it's nice for hulu and messing w/android, but I know what you mean. Out of college idk what I'd use it for. Just something around the house to look up something real quick, or to play pewpew2

im a gradstudent and working professional. they both come in handy when you can do textbooks or reference books with the e-reader apps. also, i love my laptops but when im in bed... its a lot easier to use the tablet for web surfing and email than having a really hot laptop to carry.
my gf likes it to play sudoko on a larger screen than a cell phone.

I have 2 of them, one is more or less permanently in my bathroom including charger. It has replaced all the stacks of magazines that used to clutter the place up.

-Portable real internet (BBC News, Hulu, ESPN3, etc.)
-Games (especially emulators controlled with Wiimote)
-Google Maps with Bluetooth GPS
-Creating Word documents
-I use a calculator on it a lot
-Calendar and scheduling
-Facebook and networking
-Getting Amazon's free app a day

What app do you use to create word docs?

DubiousPig said:
What app do you use to create word docs?
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I use Quickoffice HD from the notion ink apps. There is also documents to go, and a few others...
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Portable real internet indeed - handy for recipes!!
NPR news app (much easier to read).
I tend to use my phone for music, but the NC is better with Winamp (my ipod touch is in the hands of my kid now).
Youtube videos for gaming (been using for Lost Odyssey on the 360 to find treasure I missed)
Gamefaqs
checking email
Facebook once in a while
A lot of this I can't stand to do on a phone...but works great on the NC.
Making router / firewall /etc changes or grabbing the network password when someone needs it - DD-WRT router - handy and saves booting up a computer to do it.
Bank application / paypal app to check balances.
I would say #1 would be ebooks - but I read mostly on my e-ink Nook.
Killing time on the couch while the kids are watching Dora or whatever.

The Nook Color is my prefered way to surf the web. I love that I can sit back on the couch and hold it like a book while surfing.
I also read books, watch movies and play games on it. The last few meetings I've had I've used it to take a few notes.
Since getting the Nook Color I've hardly touched my netbook, and since getting the netbook I've hardly touched my laptop. My desktop is a whole different animal, however.

I honastly see no benifit of using the ipod music player over the android one. Coverflow looks nice but takes forever to get anywhere. I suppose the music u might lik erl is nice but I never touched it
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dpakrr said:
This is not meant to be a complain-session but I was just wondering what you guys find yourself using your NookColor/tablets mostly for? What makes you go back to using it on a daily basis?
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For me, I use it probably 70% of the time to read books. My state library (NH) has an e-book program. I have 2 weeks with each book before it self-deletes, so this kind of forces me a little to use it more as an e-reader.
However, I like having it to surf the web quickly. It's also a great planner and to-do list manager (I use the Get Things Done method with Evernote). so I find it really useful for quickly jotting down notes and tasks.
the rest of my time is used watching tv shows that I always said I wanted to watch but never had the motivation to go find them (Breaking Bad and Sunny in Philadelphia being the two I'm watching now).
Could I do this all on a laptop? probably, but I find this size tablet to be much more ergonomically friendly for when I want to use electronic media (bed... at the breakfast table... on a plane).
There's no shame in not finding a use between phone and laptop for another device. If the nook or tablets aren't for you... don't worry about it. the good thing is you can probably sell your nook for about what you bought it for. experiment over.

I got to read the news and magazines. I watch alot of movies on it. Use it every day while my wife jogs.
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I wan to keep on topic but this is a noob question. Those that are using google maps with Bluetooth GPS. What is the GPS for? Meaning are you actually using it in your car kind of like a Garmin? I'm assuming google maps can be used without the GPS part to simply scroll around the maps.
Also is there any way to use a Bluetooth headset to make Skype calls?

klaiii said:
I use Quickoffice HD from the notion ink apps. There is also documents to go, and a few others...
Sent from my NookColor using XDA Premium App
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Do you find selecting text to be difficult? About 90% of the time I can't get that little slider to slide.

s52m3 said:
I wan to keep on topic but this is a noob question. Those that are using google maps with Bluetooth GPS. What is the GPS for? Meaning are you actually using it in your car kind of like a Garmin?
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Yep. It is fun to have such a large GPS in the car.

I use mine mostly for:
1) Browsing ...
2) Email / FacebookMail
3) Gaming (but am a bit frustrated with the lack of scaling in a lot of games)
4) Getting a license to each daily Amazon free app (I could use my phone, but don't, since I don't mind cluttering up my Nook) ... never know when I might go back and actually use one of them.
I find it most useful in the car/airplane but also just as a capable carry-along device with decent screen.
I have a Samsung Captivate (which I do use more for music) ... but when able I definitely use my Nook over it for things like browsing and email. I also have a very nice ultra-portable Win7 notebook (HP 2710p) ... which when my Nook is charged I basically never use unless I need to do something over my work's VPN.
The more I use my Nook, well, the more I use my Nook. I use it enough I'm just about convinced to plunk down more $ for a "real" tablet (camera, WiFi, GPS) later this year when the 3rd gen tablets start hitting the market.
The only thing I wish for is something like the iPad case with built-in keyboard, as I would like better typing.
When home, like I am now, I still use my desktop PC almost all the time and don't see it changing. But otherwise I'm surprisingly happy to pull out my Nook.
PS. One thing that got me using the Nook MUCH MUCH more was this case (I modded mine with a leather punch to open up holes behind the speaker ... if you do this just do a circlular pattern in the center as you'll start hitting magnet/metal out to the far left/right of the speaker area). It works great in easel mode both for in-lap use as well as a VERY convenient way to rest it over my hands when holding it up.

i got it because i wanted an e-reader...the fact that it's also a tablet is just an extra perk...that being said, the only thing i really use it for in that capacity is e-mail and light web surfing...but i think it will come in especially handy when traveling and i won't have to pack several books or laptop just for i-net access

75% reading books
10% news+email
5% few games
5% youtube+IMDB movie trailers
5% other tasks

I don't have an Android phone (still working on my previous generation of 'feature phone'), mostly because I can't use one during most of the waking hours.
So the nook suffices as an android surrogate. What's it do? Probably every thing you do on a phone, but on a bigger screen and only in the confines of my wifi bubble at home.
Because I dual boot between an android OS and the nook stock experience, I spend about 50/50 in each. When I'm in nook mode, it's to read. When I'm in AndroidOS mode, it's to get real time information (weather, news, calendar/agenda, etc).

use your gear as a security camera or monitor

want to use your watch to see what's going on at home? all you need is the Gear + another android device - and install 20:20 app - this app turns your watch into a remote security camera or use it to monitor the video feed from another device
for my setup, i took an old android phone and installed the app and set it as my emote camera at home. i then installed the same app on my gear and configured it as my monitor - so now i can see what's going on at home.in addition you can set the remote camera to sound an alarm and/or start recording should it detect motion where it is looking (paid version)
app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.burtek.cloudcamera

animatechnica said:
want to use your watch to see what's going on at home? all you need is the Gear + another android device - and install 20:20 app - this app turns your watch into a remote security camera or use it to monitor the video feed from another device
for my setup, i took an old android phone and installed the app and set it as my emote camera at home. i then installed the same app on my gear and configured it as my monitor - so now i can see what's going on at home.in addition you can set the remote camera to sound an alarm and/or start recording should it detect motion where it is looking (paid version)
app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.burtek.cloudcamera
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isn't that too laggy?

it lags slightly but the frame rate is acceptable as a monitor to me
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isn't that too laggy?
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animatechnica said:
it lags slightly but the frame rate is acceptable as a monitor to me
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Why not just use the old android phone as the video monitor?
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recDNA said:
Why not just use the old android phone as the video monitor?
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Because why would I carry both the old phone and the watch? The point is my old phone acts like my remote camera and the watch as my monitor so I can check it where ever I am
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animatechnica said:
Because why would I carry both the old phone and the watch? The point is my old phone acts like my remote camera and the watch as my monitor so I can check it where ever I am
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I see, but then watch has to be rooted right?
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Well the watch should be running null rom to load android apps
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[Q] mapmyrun cardio sensor

Hi, i've installed this new app to control my runs with gear2 neo. The plugin works flawlessly except for the cardio sensor which can be paired with the app, but it doesn't start.
Has someone esperience this issue, too?
Thank you

Same
I am also having this issue. It's very disappointing as I do a lot of home workouts and basketball, so distance doesn't exactly help me. The other problem I noticed is that the workout calculation the site use are based on distance and duration, not heart rate. I have not looked through all the listed workout categories, but the mass majority does not calculate based of bpm. I've read that Endomondo might do this, so I'm eagerly awaiting the release of their app.

[Q] Fitness apps that utilze all sensors

I've checked all the usual suspects and found that all fitness apps fall short of utilizing all of the LG G Watch R's sensors. I've found a few that use it's pedometer function to count steps, but none that will track an activity while counting steps and heart rate! Even LG's own app (LG Health) doesn't utilize the heart rate sensor, nor does google's Fit app. Does anyone know of an app that uses all of these sensors?
UPDATE: A recent update to Endomondo has enabled use of Android Wear devices and their built in Heart Rate Monitors. There are two things that should be pointed out, though. First, it doesn't work in the paid "Pro" version...only the free version (strange). Second, you must start the app from the watch for everything to work right.

You have to use a combination of apps. One that tracks steps and another that tracks heart rate. And do any merge on your own.
Even with apps that work with a separate chest strap monitor, they're not going to do pedometer too. But apps such as Endomodo, will track heart rate and using your phone's GPS track distance too, but not pedometer steps.

Darnell_Chat_TN said:
You have to use a combination of apps. One that tracks steps and another that tracks heart rate. And do any merge on your own.
Even with apps that work with a separate chest strap monitor, they're not going to do pedometer too. But apps such as Endomodo, will track heart rate and using your phone's GPS track distance too, but not pedometer steps.
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Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I knew that I could use multiple programs...which is what I've been doing. However, what I'm looking for is an app that allows me to say "Start a Run" via my watch and the app will use the watch to track my steps & heart rate and if I have my phone with me also utilize the sensors on the phone to track my route via GPS while using the pedometer to compare to the watch for increased step accuracy. I know it can be done...one of these company's just needs to step up and add these features!

edwmsjr said:
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I knew that I could use multiple programs...which is what I've been doing. However, what I'm looking for is an app that allows me to say "Start a Run" via my watch and the app will use the watch to track my steps & heart rate and if I have my phone with me also utilize the sensors on the phone to track my route via GPS while using the pedometer to compare to the watch for increased step accuracy. I know it can be done...one of these company's just needs to step up and add these features!
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You should be sending your suggestions to them directly. I don't think they're reading here .

a nice app to track Pulse -> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.macropinch.hydra.android&hl=de
Can be started directly on the Watch!

I'm after an app that will take heart rate measurements automatically at certain intervals. Can anyone recommend one, please?