Opinions on best way to put screen from nexus 6 to tv without a router - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok quick questions I want to be able to mirror my screen from my nexus 6 to a tv. Chromecast is not an option because where I will be doing this there is not wifi and a router available. Any suggestions ?
Thanks,

bluh5d said:
Ok quick questions I want to be able to mirror my screen from my nexus 6 to a tv. Chromecast is not an option because where I will be doing this there is not wifi and a router available. Any suggestions ?
Thanks,
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Not sure, but without WiFi, I think a USB to HDMI may be the only option. Again, not my specialty.

Things like EZcast can do wifi from phone to wifi on the usb dongle, however warning, screen sharing is flaky. You can share pictures and maybe videos via gallery apps, but anything else seems poor. You definitely cannot do games.

Your best shot is to buy a USB to HDMI cable (I don't know the name really), but at least I know that they exist and work.

Mhl adaptor

Uhm, hate to burst everyone's bubble, but nexus 6 *doesn't have MHL*. There is no way to plug an hdmi into a Nexus 6 with a wire. Chromecast or VNC are basically your only options.

Can't you enable Hotspot thus making your phone into a router? I did this when I moved and my Chromecast connected to it. Then cast screen. Just tested it and it works for me. Chromecast on. Hotspot I simply gave my Hotspot name same as my house wifi so everything can connect to my phone if needed. Then cast screen. I unplugged my router to test and it works fine.

doitright said:
Uhm, hate to burst everyone's bubble, but nexus 6 *doesn't have MHL*. There is no way to plug an hdmi into a Nexus 6 with a wire. Chromecast or VNC are basically your only options.
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It was just a suggestion, I didn't know if it worked or not, I cast to my xbone so no cable needed here

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BubbleUPnP Update

What happened? I decided to try to play video content with the one video that I had no problem. On my Samsung TV got a popup stating that a AllShare device was detected, I click okay, video plays in like a player window format, I back out to folders from my tablet showing! My source shows AllShare BubbleUPnP device. Confused but happier!
wptski said:
What happened? I decided to try to play video content with the one video that I had no problem. On my Samsung TV got a popup stating that a AllShare device was detected, I click okay, video plays in like a player window format, I back out to folders from my tablet showing! My source shows AllShare BubbleUPnP device. Confused but happier!
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You still have the new Koush Cast (/AllCast/AirCast) installed?
bhiga said:
You still have the new Koush Cast (/AllCast/AirCast) installed?
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The new Koushcast? No, I read that Chromecast support was removed.
I think I know what happened. I have a Samsung WiFi adapter plugged in but have used it on a old laptop and it was plugged into USB port that might be a service port or whatever. I discovered that since using AllCast and never tried it again since. BubbleUpnP is just using WiFi to stream although I couldn't get back to my folder with the videos unless I used AllCast to start a video.
I've tried BubbleUPnP in the past but remember next to nothing! Navigating folders on the TV is a PITA, I do remember that.
The author of BubbleUPnP did mention supporting Chromecast in the future. At first I thought that they did, my mistake. Make that two mistakes!
I powered down/up, I was able to play compatible videos with the Chromecast that start with a good delay without using BubbleUPnP just AllCast. Videos that don't play with Chromecast from an Android device won't play using Chrome on a PC either nor cast.
Compatible videos is the key to success.
Interesting! I was hoping you had magically solved Android screen mirroring with Chromecast - my TV is too old to support DLNA video, only pictures and music.
bhiga said:
Interesting! I was hoping you had magically solved Android screen mirroring with Chromecast - my TV is too old to support DLNA video, only pictures and music.
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Sorry I got your hopes for nothing. I use to have the phrase "Most confused!" in my signature in another forum, maybe I should include it here as well.
wptski said:
Sorry I got your hopes for nothing. I use to have the phrase "Most confused!" in my signature in another forum, maybe I should include it here as well.
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LOL no worries. Less-intelligent people would simply accept. Confusion means you're still thinking and trying to make sense of things.
bhiga said:
LOL no worries. Less-intelligent people would simply accept. Confusion means you're still thinking and trying to make sense of things.
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I may have had my Samsung WiFi adapter plugged into the right USB port after all! I tried to access my PC from the TV and I had no connection because the setup was changed from a wireless connection back to wired again. This means that the use of BubbleUPnP, Allcast or Chromecast hoses the setup. I tried to use each one but couldn't get it to repeat. Some TVs comes with WiFi built in, I wonder if this is a issue with them or just because in my case, I was using an external WiFi adapter?
BubbleUPnP updated for the second time today, must have introduced a bug earlier.
wptski said:
I may have had my Samsung WiFi adapter plugged into the right USB port after all! I tried to access my PC from the TV and I had no connection because the setup was changed from a wireless connection back to wired again. This means that the use of BubbleUPnP, Allcast or Chromecast hoses the setup. I tried to use each one but couldn't get it to repeat. Some TVs comes with WiFi built in, I wonder if this is a issue with them or just because in my case, I was using an external WiFi adapter?
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Chromecast has its own wireless connection to your wireless router or access point, so I can't think of a reason why Chromecast would have any interaction with the TV's network connection.
Am I following you correctly that you have a wired network connection on your TV and the wireless USB adapter connected to your TV, and both are connected? If the wired connection on the TV is hooked up there should be no need to have the WiFi adapter as well, unless you have a really complicated network setup.
As long as both the TV and your DLNA source are on the same network, doesn't matter whether one is wired or the other is wireless. Unless something like AP isolation keeps the wireless clients from "seeing" the wired clients (uncommon), or the wired and wireless networks are on different subnets (rare).
tl;dr - try unplugging either your TV's WiFi adapter or the network cable on the TV. Do whatever is necessary to make the single connection work - and then try everything else. Everything should work.
bhiga said:
Chromecast has its own wireless connection to your wireless router or access point, so I can't think of a reason why Chromecast would have any interaction with the TV's network connection.
Am I following you correctly that you have a wired network connection on your TV and the wireless USB adapter connected to your TV, and both are connected? If the wired connection on the TV is hooked up there should be no need to have the WiFi adapter as well, unless you have a really complicated network setup.
As long as both the TV and your DLNA source are on the same network, doesn't matter whether one is wired or the other is wireless. Unless something like AP isolation keeps the wireless clients from "seeing" the wired clients (uncommon), or the wired and wireless networks are on different subnets (rare).
tl;dr - try unplugging either your TV's WiFi adapter or the network cable on the TV. Do whatever is necessary to make the single connection work - and then try everything else. Everything should work.
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Yes the Chrome cast has its own WiFi connection.
I have either the wired or wireless option but there is no wired connection to it that's why I had to get the Samsung WiFi adapter.
I was able to switch back/forth several times between DLNA(BubbleUPnP), TV WiFi and Allcast without losing any of them. I have no idea how or why but it did happen "once" or actually "twice".
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I was able to switch back/forth several times between DLNA(BubbleUPnP), TV WiFi and Allcast without losing any of them. I have no idea how or why but it did happen "once" or actually "twice".
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Ahh okay, I misunderstood. I thought your TV had a wired connection too.
It's possible the Chromecast and Samsung WiFi adapter are too close and therefore causing signal interference, so the Samsung WiFi adapter might have went back into a disconnected mode and the TV wanted it set up again. *shrug*
Worst case you could get a USB or HDMI extension cable, I guess. I have a ~10-foot HDMI extension cable on my Chromecast because it's connected to my sound bar's I/O box. At first it was to troubleshoot the Internet connectivity problems I was having (which were fixed with update to 13300), then I decide to leave it as it's much more convenient to access my Chromecast when I don't have to contort myself behind stuff, heh.
bhiga said:
Ahh okay, I misunderstood. I thought your TV had a wired connection too.
It's possible the Chromecast and Samsung WiFi adapter are too close and therefore causing signal interference, so the Samsung WiFi adapter might have went back into a disconnected mode and the TV wanted it set up again. *shrug*
Worst case you could get a USB extension cable, I guess.
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Just got my HDMI 90 adapter today, see what happens next to me?
The Samsung adapter is no cheapy from what I've read about it. No PC drivers for it but I researched its chip and managed to hack a INF for use on my old XP laptop, IIRC it comes up as a Linksys device.

Chrome cast in car dvd

I have DVD in my cat (pioneer avh 2450bt)
I was wondering, if I will buy an usb to Hdmi adapter and connect
The chrome cast to my DVD with the adapter,
It will mirror my screen??
Tnx.
guy6136206 said:
I have DVD in my cat (pioneer avh 2450bt)
I was wondering, if I will buy an usb to Hdmi adapter and connect
The chrome cast to my DVD with the adapter,
It will mirror my screen??
Tnx.
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Not unless you have internet access in your car.
Asphyx said:
Not unless you have internet access in your car.
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It can use my phone Internet no?
Does it use much data??
And do you know any other way to mirror the screen?
Tnx.
I think the root problem here is that Chromecast and the phone both need to be connected to the same access point... of which you probably don't have running in your car. Maybe it would work with one of those wifi hotspots if the hotspot allows attached devices to see eachother.... likely wouldn't be fast though
guy6136206 said:
It can use my phone Internet no?
Does it use much data??
And do you know any other way to mirror the screen?
Tnx.
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well it won't use a lot of data (or shouldn't) because all it would be using the internet for is to load the receiver app.
Not sure Mirroring works on a phone in wireless hotspot mode. If you had two phones one for the Hotspot and another for the mirror it might work.
And Do a search here because some have had some luck using the CCast while in Hotspot mode but I'm not sure if Mirroring was possible with that.
Apk07 said:
I think the root problem here is that Chromecast and the phone both need to be connected to the same access point... of which you probably don't have running in your car. Maybe it would work with one of those wifi hotspots if the hotspot allows attached devices to see eachother.... likely wouldn't be fast though
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He could use one of those MiFi pucks as an AP and it should be fast enough for CCast use...even Mirroring.
Apk07 said:
I think the root problem here is that Chromecast and the phone both need to be connected to the same access point... of which you probably don't have running in your car. Maybe it would work with one of those wifi hotspots if the hotspot allows attached devices to see eachother.... likely wouldn't be fast though
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Do you know any other device that will do the job?
Asphyx said:
well it won't use a lot of data (or shouldn't) because all it would be using the internet for is to load the receiver app.
Not sure Mirroring works on a phone in wireless hotspot mode. If you had two phones one for the Hotspot and another for the mirror it might work.
And Do a search here because some have had some luck using the CCast while in Hotspot mode but I'm not sure if Mirroring was possible with that.
He could use one of those MiFi pucks as an AP and it should be fast enough for CCast use...even Mirroring.
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Yeah but this is to much devices in my car,
I just want some simple mirror cast without all this trouble.
guy6136206 said:
Yeah but this is to much devices in my car,
I just want some simple mirror cast without all this trouble.
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You could just plug the phone into the HDMI port of the DVD player if the phone has one...
Mirroring still requires WiFi access for CCast and the phone and Internet to work.
I have nexus 5.
I wandered if there is other mirror device that isn't required all this mess.
My friend have a DVD and someone installed him some device that he can mirror the screen with Mira cast, and no Internet required.
And i prefer it to be wireless.
As I see it, you have 3 choices:
1) If your phone supports MHL, go for a micro USB to HDMI adapter. This is wired and gives the best screen mirroring. No internet is required.
2) If your phone supports Miracast, go for a Miracast dongle. WiFi direct is used and no internet is required.
3) If you really want to use Chromecast, you also can. However, you need to make your phone a WiFi hotspot and need another phone or computer to setup the Chromecast to connect to your main phone. Internet is also required while screen mirroring. The quality depends on your phone model. Also note that only some phone models support screen mirroring using Chromecast.
guy6136206 said:
I have nexus 5.
I wandered if there is other mirror device that isn't required all this mess.
My friend have a DVD and someone installed him some device that he can mirror the screen with Mira cast, and no Internet required.
And i prefer it to be wireless.
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Miracast doesn't require an internet connection, but it DOES require a Phone that is Miracast capable.
Anox gave you some choices but it would appear you need to get a Miracast dongle provided your Phone supports it.
anox said:
As I see it, you have 3 choices:
1) If your phone supports MHL, go for a micro USB to HDMI adapter. This is wired and gives the best screen mirroring. No internet is required.
2) If your phone supports Miracast, go for a Miracast dongle. WiFi direct is used and no internet is required.
3) If you really want to use Chromecast, you also can. However, you need to make your phone a WiFi hotspot and need another phone or computer to setup the Chromecast to connect to your main phone. Internet is also required while screen mirroring. The quality depends on your phone model. Also note that only some phone models support screen mirroring using Chromecast.
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I was thinking about the mira cast.
The only problem I have is that my DVD haven't got an Hdmi port.
If I buy an usb to Hdmi converter it will work? I'm not sure.
guy6136206 said:
I was thinking about the mira cast.
The only problem I have is that my DVD haven't got an Hdmi port.
If I buy an usb to Hdmi converter it will work? I'm not sure.
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Well how did you expect to plug the CCast into it? It also has an HDMI.
You can buy a HDMI to analog converter but by the time you did that you might as well just buy yourself a cheap tablet and skip the Phone control altogether.
The converter is about 4 times as expensive as the CCast is!
and right around the price point you can find a Nexus 7 on Ebay for.
Asphyx said:
Well how did you expect to plug the CCast into it? It also has an HDMI.
You can buy a HDMI to analog converter but by the time you did that you might as well just buy yourself a cheap tablet and skip the Phone control altogether.
The converter is about 4 times as expensive as the CCast is!
and right around the price point you can find a Nexus 7 on Ebay for.
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OK, tnx for all your help.
I will think about it.
Take a look at what was done here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/chromecast/m3-navigation-screen-t2828038

Screen casting with rooted Cc and no internet connection

I'm trying to get my stock Pixel to screen cast reliably to a Chromecast in my car. I've tried with a wi-fi hotspot and this seemed to drop out randomly which wasn't helpful whilst driving and then other times it wouldn't see an internet connection through it despite the phone being online.
So I've gone down the road of using a raspberry pi as a portable hotspot and rooting a Chromecast. This is more reliable once connected however the process of connecting is a bit tricky. At the moment I have to give the Chromecast an internet connection through a USB tether to the pi then connect to the wi-fi and cast screen. Eventually disconnecting the tether and the phone falls back to cell data whilst still casting the screen. My question is can I stop a rooted Chromecast with Eureka ROM needing an internet connection to be able to receive screen casts? I must note for some reason it only needs to be connected once after boot after that it will still be able to cast to despite complaining of no internet connection. Which is different to what a non rooted Cc did so it's like it's almost there but not quite.
Morphy99 said:
I'm trying to get my stock Pixel to screen cast reliably to a Chromecast in my car.
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I think the first thing to realize is, that the chromecast is not primarily intended as a screen mirror receiver. [...] There are great miracast receivers that do basically what you want.
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@Morphy99 - You should try the Miracast receiver from Microsoft (Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter v2). Works great with my Nexus 7 (2013) on Android 6 and the app "SecondScreen" for screen ratio correction! :good:
Yes I realise this unfortunately with the Pixel unrooted miracast is not possible. Another reason I should have gone Samsung. Ive got a cheap ez cast dongle coming which hopefully will do it, although I'm sceptical at the minute. I'll update you if it works.

Cast without wifi or internet?

Trying to set up something in my camper so that I can watch downloaded movies or shows from my phones. I have a Note 3 with android 5.0.2 and miracast seems to be broken? When the Note 3 had 4.4 it worked fine and I used a Sony dvd player that it worked with just fine. It "sees" the player but won't cast to it.
I have a Google Pixel XL that does not see the dvd player for some reason. I brought a wifi router into the camper and tried to set up a chromecast (Gen 1). I can get it set up but then neither device, when connected to same wifi, see the device so that I can cast to it. I am going to grab a Gen 2 model from home and see if this will work.
Is there a simpler way to make this work? It was so easy just using miracast and now this has turned into a massive headache.
If you have the Stock FW on the CC, please ensure, that guest mode is enabled (via Google home). In this case the CC provided an own Wifi net if needed.
Mad07 said:
If you have the Stock FW on the CC, please ensure, that guest mode is enabled (via Google home). In this case the CC provided an own Wifi net if needed.
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I've never been able to get the guest mode to work. It seems like no matter what the chromecast still needs an actual internet connection, even if only casting a movie/picture right from device.
So far what works for me but it's annoying. I have my actual Verizon phone turned on as hotspot, Set up the chromecast to connect to hotspot. I leave it up and running. My Note 3 has my movies on it so I connect to same hotspot and cast using Allcast app...I think. That's the only app that even seems to find the chromecast. Yes I have Google Home installed on both devices. If I turn off the hotspot Chromecast stops working. Neither device finds the chromecast after that unless I turn hotspot back on. Yes guest mode is turned on. A pin is never displayed but since devices don't see it it won't help anyway.
I had a spare wifi router and did the same test. Still need an actual data connection. If no data connection the devices do not see the Chromecast.
Technology is really frustrating at times. Miracast worked just fine until Google didn't like it and made the Chromecast. The Note 3 is old and close to being dead so I am not buying a MHL adapter for it nor will I buy a new tv that has something built in that does not seems to work either. Many other camping people are starting to run into this issue as well.
if you go in Google Home under your device, Settings, there is a possibility to switch the guest mode on. This means the CC works like a hot spot. Its written also on the screen. Every device, which is not in your network, could get an access. I don't know, at which time the guest mode will be disabled automatically. Maybe at this time, if you stream something over your own network to the CC.
Hi,
I bought a cheap "MiraCast" dongle from eBay that works great. Less than $14 with shipping included from China. They list them as a "2nd Generation Chromecast 2" screen mirroring devices, a little misleading, but I'm happy with the unit, as it was brand new, in a very nice box I might add. If you need a link, then PM me, or reply here.
PS, they picture a Chromecast shape, but the lead with a Wi-Fi antenna is a giveaway. Here is a link to get you started, and actually is titled better than the one I bought, which is sold out. There are lots more like it at varying prices. https://m.ebay.com/itm/2-Digital-HD...d=202018167243&_trksid=p2349624.c100408.m2460
Motorhome option to cast from phone or tablet or TV without Wi-Fi or hotspot connecti
I was looking at a thread that discuss different connectivity options without Wi-Fi but could not figure it out. Are there any updates to this? Right now the only results that I have is to hardwire an iPhone to the TV using the HDMI connection and Apple Adapter device. The Mira cast Dongle works most of the time but is intermittent at best.
My son upgraded to an iphone so I got his old S7. Using it and the sony dvd player I can use miracast again.
I have also set up my main phone as a wifi hotspot and connected a chromecast and my S7 to it as well and been able to cast. This method ties up both devices and then they also both need to be plugged in. My wifes Iphone can also cast to the chromecast when connected to my hotspot.
Best I can come up with for now.

Mirror

first apologies if this in wrong section.
I would like to mirror Facetime off my 4A5G to a TV, all methods Ive seen so far need an internet connection/wifi is it possible without this as at my parents do not have an internet connection, I should add Cast doesnt work (it did on my first Pixel phone many moons ago but not now).
you need wifi for casting to a chromecast, though miracast might be possible as it uses wifi direct... cant confirm anything though.
you could use a usb c to hdmi adapter if its supported with your phone
I think the usb to hdmi way may be the one to try, annoying Google have made it so difficult as it used to be so easy to do. thanks
Pekoltia said:
I think the usb to hdmi way may be the one to try, annoying Google have made it so difficult as it used to be so easy to do. thanks
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It appears the 4a 5g needs to support HDMI ALT MODE to work via a USB-C/HDMI cable, I am currently unable to find out if it does.
I'm able to mirror my phone screen to my TV via Chromecast, but I'm not sure if it works without an Internet connection. It does need WiFi.

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