[Q] Got 5.1.1 system update message but I'm on att? - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Got 5.1.1 system update message but I'm on att? And when I check the list of stock android images, there is no 5.1.1 for att. Is it possible they are pushing ota's before they make the new image available to developers? Sounds odd to me.
I'm also rooted (but with stock recovery), so it sounds like I can't do the ota? I also have a Fi request out there. Or can I? I'm rooted but I haven't changed any system files. Can I do the ota rooted but with stock recovery and unmodified system files?
Should I unroot and try to get the ota?
-peter

If I'm not mistaken they normally do otas before images. You might be the first one to get this one. Get the url.

pcrussell50 said:
Got 5.1.1 system update message but I'm on att? And when I check the list of stock android images, there is no 5.1.1 for att. Is it possible they are pushing ota's before they make the new image available to developers? Sounds odd to me.
I'm also rooted (but with stock recovery), so it sounds like I can't do the ota? I also have a Fi request out there. Or can I? I'm rooted but I haven't changed any system files. Can I do the ota rooted but with stock recovery and unmodified system files?
Should I unroot and try to get the ota?
-peter
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Buff McBigstuff said:
If I'm not mistaken they normally do otas before images. You might be the first one to get this one. Get the url.
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AT&T is pushing LMY47Z via OTA. Factory image file has been available for some time on the Google website.

Buff McBigstuff said:
If I'm not mistaken they normally do otas before images. You might be the first one to get this one. Get the url.
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hmmm, not sure how to get the url. the message was a system message, not an email with a link. the message says "Android 5.1.1 System Update Downloaded and Verfied..." i'm rooted with root permissions on ES file explorer, i can look for the ota but i'm not sure where they are kept after they are downloaded.
-peter

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AT&T is pushing LMY47Z via OTA. Factory image file has been available for some time on the Google website.
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This was cut and pasted from the google website list of images about a minute and a half ago. can you tell me which one is 5.1.1 for att:
5.0 (LRX21O) Link af4520213c1a3e2b3dd811aef030b87b e028f5eab0952d0df60c63d6095b56c1c6f8e474
5.0.1 (LRX22C) Link a95f291164b5b438b5fc9e77c222d703 ff173fc66eca5a27b34ae28a9b69f9ad7f4d3b80
5.1.0 (LMY47D) Link 4d99d16bae3c5a638268731a5d27062e 6c44d4021142ffaa2197fb1308996a8846a79e26
5.1.0 (LMY47E) Link 7c50606b7d68ddd1b8a81d544ec59aff cf3131641c2bda2eba54bcc0108ce0325327f58e
5.1.0 (LMY47I) Link d6e750e58938de3b8516a4718c491d9c c8afc588e44ec087e8b98c1d6ed3ed565a9b9644
5.1.0 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LMY47M) Link 0469ca2018c923498cc603baae4fd648 5228e84a8a03609ead6b55df569057d5a4e28e0a
5.1.1 (For Sprint, USC ONLY) (LMY47Z) Link c8fe950ad9e861120a1074825b92cfba 33951732896055848d17b3876d8a39b79fb95301
5.1.1 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28E) Link 9ea32a7ff1751afa2a16214ac23ef000 b542b88a0ad478110f9f111dd32b62a1cb65b9d5
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cuz if LMY47Z is for AT&T too, the "(For Sprint, USC ONLY)" bit was making me think otherwise.
-Peter

pcrussell50 said:
This was cut and pasted from the google website list of images about a minute and a half ago. can you tell me which one is 5.1.1 for att:
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5.0 (LRX21O)Linkaf4520213c1a3e2b3dd811aef030b87be028f5eab0952d0df60c63d6095b56c1c6f8e474
5.0.1 (LRX22C)Linka95f291164b5b438b5fc9e77c222d703ff173fc66eca5a27b34ae28a9b69f9ad7f4d3b80
5.1.0 (LMY47D)Link4d99d16bae3c5a638268731a5d27062e6c44d4021142ffaa2197fb1308996a8846a79e26
5.1.0 (LMY47E)Link7c50606b7d68ddd1b8a81d544ec59affcf3131641c2bda2eba54bcc0108ce0325327f58e
5.1.0 (LMY47I)Linkd6e750e58938de3b8516a4718c491d9cc8afc588e44ec087e8b98c1d6ed3ed565a9b9644
5.1.0 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LMY47M)Link0469ca2018c923498cc603baae4fd6485228e84a8a03609ead6b55df569057d5a4e28e0a
5.1.1 (For Sprint, USC ONLY) (LMY47Z)Linkc8fe950ad9e861120a1074825b92cfba33951732896055848d17b3876d8a39b79fb95301
5.1.1 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28E)Link9ea32a7ff1751afa2a16214ac23ef000b542b88a0ad478110f9f111dd32b62a1cb65b9d5
-Peter
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There is only one LMY47Z. It says "For Sprint and USC only". Same build AT&T is pushing via OTA.

At&t rolled out the ota for at&t the zip is already available on xda for a few days now I sideloaded it two days ago. The factory image has not yet been posted on Google's site.
Edit: I wouldn't use the image that is posted on Google because even though it has the same build number the boot.img and radio are most likely different.

manup456 said:
At&t rolled out the ota for at&t the zip is already available on xda for a few days now I sideloaded it two days ago. The factory image has not yet been posted on Google's site.
Edit: I wouldn't use the image that is posted on Google because even though it has the same build number the boot.img and radio are most likely different.
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I installed the OTA. Fastboot flashed back to 47D. Then after a few days flashed the 47Z factory image. They are identical. Same boot.img and same radio.

cam30era said:
I installed the OTA. Fastboot flashed back to 47D. Then after a few days flashed the 47Z factory image. They are identical. Same boot.img and same radio.
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So you have this radio?
Edit: I ask because why would they put for sprint only on google's image download site. Kinda makes no sense to me at all, but you could be 100% correct I never flashed the image files off google's site.

manup456 said:
So you have this radio?
Edit: I ask because why would they put for sprint only on google's image download site. Kinda makes no sense to me at all, but you could be 100% correct I never flashed the image files off google's site.
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Yes, same 101R radio. No idea why Google identifies things like they do.

i am rooted, but with stock recovery and have not edited any system files. can i go ahead and install this OTA, since it's already downloaded and verified according to the system updater?
-peter

pcrussell50 said:
i am rooted, but with stock recovery and have not edited any system files. can i go ahead and install this OTA, since it's already downloaded and verified according to the system updater?
-peter
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you are rooted. just that in itself changes system files silly :silly:

cam30era said:
AT&T is pushing LMY47Z via OTA. Factory image file has been available for some time on the Google website.
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simms22 said:
you are rooted. just that in itself changes system files silly :silly:
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i had a feeling... thanks for confirming. i thought maybe just a root without any other changes might be like renaming the att splash so it doesn't happen on bootup.
-peter

AT&T 5.1.1 system update OTA, whats preventing the install?
manup456 said:
So you have this radio?
Edit: I ask because why would they put for sprint only on google's image download site. Kinda makes no sense to me at all, but you could be 100% correct I never flashed the image files off google's site.
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pcrussell50 said:
Got 5.1.1 system update message but I'm on att? And when I check the list of stock android images, there is no 5.1.1 for att. Is it possible they are pushing ota's before they make the new image available to developers? Sounds odd to me.
I'm also rooted (but with stock recovery), so it sounds like I can't do the ota? I also have a Fi request out there. Or can I? I'm rooted but I haven't changed any system files. Can I do the ota rooted but with stock recovery and unmodified system files?
Should I unroot and try to get the ota?
-peter
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I've had the 5.1.1 system update notice for a few days and finally clicked "install" - it counts down to reboot, then instead of rebooting it says "system up to date" with the current time stamp.
I am rooted, unencrypted, Franco kernel, stock 5.1 ROM.
I assume the root and/or un-encryption is somehow preventing the system updates? Is there any way to stop the system update notification?
Thanks.

I took a dive and did the update. My phone is now in a wonky state. Its still at 5.1. Every time I power on my phone, it does the applications countdown like its indexing all the apps.
(Unencrypted, ElementalX, 5.1)

garyHal said:
I took a dive and did the update. My phone is now in a wonky state. Its still at 5.1. Every time I power on my phone, it does the applications countdown like its indexing all the apps.
(Unencrypted, ElementalX, 5.1)
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Do you mean you tried to install the OTA? If so, it won't install for you. You have to have be stock (encrypted kernel, no root, stock recovery). Your best option is to fastboot flash the factory image.

cam30era said:
Do you mean you tried to install the OTA? If so, it won't install for you. You have to have be stock (encrypted kernel, no root, stock recovery). Your best option is to fastboot flash the factory image.
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Yeah, I tried to install the OTA. I heard it wasn't going to work. I just expected the "verification" step to fail before it tried to install. Apparently something fubar'd.

How do we get rid of the dang system update message?
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ryan141 said:
How do we get rid of the dang system update message?
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I did it by long pressing on the notification and selecting 'i' which took me to the Google Play services App notifications. Then I selected Block and the notification went away.

thrasher9 said:
I did it by long pressing on the notification and selecting 'i' which took me to the Google Play services App notifications. Then I selected Block and the notification went away.
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Doesn't that kill all of the google play services notifications?

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Will Nexus 6 get OTA updates if rooted and custom recovery is installed?

I'm new to the nexus line. Just wondering if OTA updates will work after rooting my device or do I have to return to stock to get the update? Currently I'm rooted stock , decrypted, and TWRP recovery installed. Should I return to full stock locked or what?
gwojo22 said:
I'm new to the nexus line. Just wondering if OTA updates will work after rooting my device or do I have to return to stock to get the update? Currently I'm rooted stock , decrypted, and TWRP recovery installed. Should I return to full stock locked or what?
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ive hear any alteration on the system files will stop the ota from installing. i assume that means recovery as well
gwojo22 said:
I'm new to the nexus line. Just wondering if OTA updates will work after rooting my device or do I have to return to stock to get the update? Currently I'm rooted stock , decrypted, and TWRP recovery installed. Should I return to full stock locked or what?
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shelooga said:
ive hear any alteration on the system files will stop the ota from installing. i assume that means recovery as well
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sheloga is correct. You'd have to revert back to full stock or wait for someone to make a flashable zip.
Can't you just flash the stock recovery and take the OTA? Or do you have to fully unroot and reflash the factory image?
I would like to pay close attention time to this thread because that is one is the main questions that I have. I hear so many different solutions towards this. I usually wait for a flashable zip but I would want to see someone either wrote a write up or make a video. Subscribed.
My understanding (from looking at the lollipop OTA updater-script) is it checks EVERY file for changes, including other partitions. You must be 100% stock with nothing extra in system (SuperSU apk or busybox etc).
gwojo22 said:
I'm new to the nexus line. Just wondering if OTA updates will work after rooting my device or do I have to return to stock to get the update? Currently I'm rooted stock , decrypted, and TWRP recovery installed. Should I return to full stock locked or what?
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get and being able to apply are two differing things. unless you make it so you cant receive, then you will get an ota. problem is, that you will not be able to apply the update. 1. you can flash the factory img. 2. you can wait for someone to upload a flashable zip. 3. or you can do what most noobs do, and waste your time. what most noobs do is unroot, and flash the stock recovery, then wait for the update.
BLUF: wait until OTA is made available in a recovery flash method. 90% of the time the OTA updates are patching security holes and other less important features.
Having been with a handful of different android devices in the past several years, I've always gone the route of flashing from recovery vs. OTA.
The LG G3 for example had an OTA just recently that broke rooting. It was fixed by a Dev, but that's the only update found in OTA.
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Once you root the phone you cannot receive OTA updates. However, you arent out of luck when updates are released. Because you have a custom recovery, its easy to just download the update file when its released and install it that way. Once the AOSP updates are uploaded from Google, its all yours. Most people who dont receive their OTA and dont have a custom recovery will typically install it on their own but using ADB.
simms22 said:
get and being able to apply are two differing things. unless you make it so you cant receive, then you will get an ota. problem is, that you will not be able to apply the update. 1. you can flash the factory img. 2. you can wait for someone to upload a flashable zip. 3. or you can do what most noobs do, and waste your time. what most noobs do is unroot, and flash the stock recovery, then wait for the update.
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I read in one of RootSU's threads (I think) that as of Lollipop, OTA via ADB sideload is the only option to apply an update. Any thoughts?
wvcadle said:
I read in one of RootSU's threads (I think) that as of Lollipop, OTA via ADB sideload is the only option to apply an update. Any thoughts?
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no thoughts.
i just flash aosp hours after it appears there. or just wait for @rascarlo to add it to his rom, then i flash
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Because you have a custom recovery, its easy to just download the update file when its released and install it that way. Once the AOSP updates are uploaded from Google, its all yours. Most people who dont receive their OTA and dont have a custom recovery will typically install it on their own but using ADB.
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wvcadle said:
I read in one of RootSU's threads (I think) that as of Lollipop, OTA via ADB sideload is the only option to apply an update. Any thoughts?
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After Android 5.0, you can't sideload the OTA file if you have made any changes to the system partition. You need to be completely stock to take OTA. You can just download the new factory images and extract the various img files from it and just flash those manually in ADB, thereby overwriting your modified system partition with the new factory system image (you can skip overwriting the userdata if you want to preserve your data). No need to revert back to stock (old image) and then take OTA - unnecessary step.
HyperM3 said:
Once you root the phone you cannot receive OTA updates. However, you arent out of luck when updates are released. Because you have a custom recovery, its easy to just download the update file when its released and install it that way. Once the AOSP updates are uploaded from Google, its all yours. Most people who dont receive their OTA and dont have a custom recovery will typically install it on their own but using ADB.
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I understand what your saying. Is there any difference between the OTA and AOSP? Like modem or kernel? I actually like the stock on this device. It seems like there are problems with the AOSP ROMS that are available now such as Netflix and Play Movies not working.
I'm coming from Samsung devices which were completely different as far as rooting and return to stock. I would go to SamMobile to get the stock firmware on my Galaxy S5. Where do I find stock firmware for the nexus?
gwojo22 said:
I understand what your saying. Is there any difference between the OTA and AOSP? Like modem or kernel? I actually like the stock on this device. It seems like there are problems with the AOSP ROMS that are available now such as Netflix and Play Movies not working.
I'm coming from Samsung devices which were completely different as far as rooting and return to stock. I would go to SamMobile to get the stock firmware on my Galaxy S5. Where do I find stock firmware for the nexus?
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From google
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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From google
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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How does one do this on a Mac? Could you perhaps link us? All I'm finding is guides for windows unfortunately
waqar.qu said:
How does one do this on a Mac? Could you perhaps link us? All I'm finding is guides for windows unfortunately
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You need to install ADB and fastboot. After that, you can use the 'fastboot' command directly from Terminal. I've found that the easiest way to update Lollipop on my Nexus 6 is to:
Download image from Google
Decompress the archive, AND the second archive which was contained within the first one. Note: The recovery, boot, and system images are in the second archive.
Open Terminal, change directory to the extracted folder, and run these commands (they skip overwriting the userdata partition):
fastboot flash bootloader <bootloader file name here>.img
fastboot flash radio <radio file name here>.img
fastboot reboot-bootloader (VERY IMPORTANT TO DO THIS STEP)
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot reboot
You need to restore root at this point; you can use these instructions if you're unfamiliar with the procedure.

[Q] Returning to un-rooted 5.0 on XT1095?

I'm assuming that since I've rooted my Pure Edition that once the official 5.1 OTA comes it will fail to install just like 5.0-5.02 on my N7 did. I'm wondering how I can get back to unrooted without wiping the phone out (if that's possible). I can't seem to find the factory 5.0 image at the Motorola site so right now I'm assuming I'll have to install the 4.4..4 image and then let the OTA's roll in?
When I ran into this on my N7 other than rooting the only system installed app I had added in was better battery stats and removing root and getting rid of (at least I think I got rid of it) BBS the OTA failed still and I had to just flash the system.img from the factory image. On my XT1095 I only have SuperSU installed. I never installed BBS or any other new apps as system apps so maybe telling SuperSU to unroot and clean up will work?
Maybe I'm wrong, but I was under the impression you could still receive the OTA with root as long as you were on stock recovery, you would just lose root access in the process. I could be way off, though. I have always had TWRP on my rooted phones. I am pretty confident that you cannot switch back to stock recovery from TWRP without wiping. You can always use Helium Pro to back everything up. Unlike TiBu, it does not require root. Or you could just wait on someone to release a .zip of the OTA and flash it manually.
Paddington said:
Maybe I'm wrong, but I was under the impression you could still receive the OTA with root as long as you were on stock recovery, you would just lose root access in the process. I could be way off, though. I have always had TWRP on my rooted phones. I am pretty confident that you cannot switch back to stock recovery from TWRP without wiping. You can always use Helium Pro to back everything up. Unlike TiBu, it does not require root. Or you could just wait on someone to release a .zip of the OTA and flash it manually.
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It used to be that way before 5.0. Something changed in 5.0+ and now if certain parts of the file system are off at all from stock, OTA will fail. That's why I mentioned the example of my Nexus 7 failing the update from 5.0 to 5.02. I don't know if Motorola is keeping the same kinds of checks as Nexus OTA's though. I do still have the stock recovery. If I need TWRP for something I just temporarily boot it with fastboot instead.
Any luck with this? I too would like to unroot. Still stock recovery.
flyinion said:
I can't seem to find the factory 5.0 image at the Motorola site
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Here you go:
http://www.graffixnyc.com/motox.php
flyinion said:
so right now I'm assuming I'll have to install the 4.4..4 image and then let the OTA's roll in?:cyclops:
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No, 4.4.4 won't boot with the 5.0 boot.img. And NEVER attempt to downgrade the bootloader (motoboot.img) or partition table (gpt.bin) of a Motorola Moto X. These are NOT Nexus devices.
Thanks very much! So...in an abundance of caution, I should be able to flash boot.img and that will get rid of root? Or system.img too? And neither of those affect my data? Edit: I am rooted on 22.21.11 XT1095 with stock recovery
Hmm. Not available on that site anymore but found it at http://motofirmware.center/files/file/76-tmo_xt1095_50_lxe2246-11_cid9_cfcxmlzip/
Mnemoch said:
Thanks very much! So...in an abundance of caution, I should be able to flash boot.img and that will get rid of root? Or system.img too? And neither of those affect my data? Edit: I am rooted on 22.21.11 XT1095 with stock recovery
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Just flash 5.0 system.img that is all you need unless you flashed a custom kernel
Personally I would not take the OTA - I would use Motorola Device Manager to update. If you are rooted you can uninstall MotorolaOTA and then when people report the OTA is being pushed, flash system back to stock and then let MDM update you - you will have a copy of the 5.1 fxz on your computer then.
Thanks for the advice, I will check out MDM and yes, waiting for the OTA to be published officially.
That other link I posted for the full image file was corrupt, but I found http://graffixnyc.com/development/motox2014/lollipop/22.21.11/ which has system.img available. But this is huge! Does it seem correct to you by any chance? Should be able to flash without losing my data?
JulesJam said:
Just flash 5.0 system.img that is all you need unless you flashed a custom kernel
Personally I would not take the OTA - I would use Motorola Device Manager to update. If you are rooted you can uninstall MotorolaOTA and then when people report the OTA is being pushed, flash system back to stock and then let MDM update you - you will have a copy of the 5.1 fxz on your computer then.
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Thanks guys, I did find the image and had downloaded it from that link a while back. I also picked up the mfastboot tool, but I'm not sure how to use it to flash a system.img. That download has a bunch of system.img_sparsechunk.n files where .n is a number from 0-7 but there's no "base" system.img file. Do I just tell it to flash file 0 and it will pick up the rest of them automatically?
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Thanks guys, I did find the image and had downloaded it from that link a while back. I also picked up the mfastboot tool, but I'm not sure how to use it to flash a system.img. That download has a bunch of system.img_sparsechunk.n files where .n is a number from 0-7 but there's no "base" system.img file. Do I just tell it to flash file 0 and it will pick up the rest of them automatically?
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No you have to do each 1 at a time. Regular fastboot can flash the sparsechunks - you only need mfastboot if the image is a single file.
fastboot flash system sparsechunk0
then when it is done
fastboot flash system sparsechunk1
until you have flashed them all
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No you have to do each 1 at a time. Regular fastboot can flash the sparsechunks - you only need mfastboot if the image is a single file.
fastboot flash system sparsechunk0
then when it is done
fastboot flash system sparsechunk1
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Ah ok, I thought I needed mfastboot from what I was able to read around here. So the standard fastboot that comes with the android sdk can be used on the chunks?
Actually I think maybe I understand now. I read something a little bit ago about the difference between fastboot and mfastboot (Motorola Fastboot) and that the latter was created due to a file size limitation with the original fastboot. It didn't go into more detail than that. My assumption instantly was motorola was splitting the system image up into chunks and created that new fastboot to handle that. Seems it's the other way around? Google's fastboot can handle chunks and Moto's can handle a single image that is larger than what the standard fastboot can so they don't have to split it up in the first place?
Which download has chunks, the zip that we can't download any more or the system.img that I found? Should I try to extract it?
flyinion said:
Actually I think maybe I understand now. I read something a little bit ago about the difference between fastboot and mfastboot (Motorola Fastboot) and that the latter was created due to a file size limitation with the original fastboot. It didn't go into more detail than that. My assumption instantly was motorola was splitting the system image up into chunks and created that new fastboot to handle that. Seems it's the other way around? Google's fastboot can handle chunks and Moto's can handle a single image that is larger than what the standard fastboot can so they don't have to split it up in the first place?
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Mnemoch said:
Which download has chunks, the zip that we can't download any more or the system.img that I found? Should I try to extract it?
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Oh, the one that doesn't work anymore. I downloaded it a few weeks ago. Not sure when it got taken offline since the link is there, but yeah I see the download doesn't work any longer. If you have just a single system.img and not a bunch of system.img_sparsechunk.n files then you have a different image.
Anyone unrooted since the OTA came out?
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No you have to do each 1 at a time. Regular fastboot can flash the sparsechunks - you only need mfastboot if the image is a single file.
fastboot flash system sparsechunk0
then when it is done
fastboot flash system sparsechunk1
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Anyone use this process to unroot stock 22.21.11?
And if so, did you get and take the 5.1 OTA or did you sideload it?
Thanks
eKeith said:
Anyone use this process to unroot stock 22.21.11?
And if so, did you get and take the 5.1 OTA or did you sideload it?
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Unrooting using this method does work!
Maybe unrelated, but in my confusion as to what's going on, is it at all possible to flash the 5.1 ota update over a custom rom? I'm currently on resurrection remix that's running on 5.1.1, but I really want to go back to stock. Thanks in advance.
dcdrew713 said:
Maybe unrelated, but in my confusion as to what's going on, is it at all possible to flash the 5.1 ota update over a custom rom? I'm currently on resurrection remix that's running on 5.1.1, but I really want to go back to stock. Thanks in advance.
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Not possible. You have to flash the stock rom first, then take the ota.
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Any idea what stock rom to use? 5.0? Sorry, I'm not the best with this stuff anymore, haha.

Not a noob, but still confused.

I have a nexus 6. I have been using custom ROMs from the days of xperia mini pro. Never had a Nexus before. I want to have root in my nexus 6 for ad blocking cereberus and more. But this time I don't want custom ROMs. I just need the OTA's. I know OTA's dont happen automatically after root. So please tell me should I root and put a custom recovery, Or just root for manually updating the OTA's. Where can I get all the OTA's ?? I know it's a lot of questions.. Please.
Quick answer: Isn't going to happen.
Reason: Lollipop wont install OTA if you modify /system, because it is now written as a block, unlike previous versions of android.
IF you root, you have modified /system.
Consequence: you will not update by OTA while rooted. It will fail.
Possible workaround: You can however AFAIK, unroot and then take an OTA, but I'll let others confirm this, please don't take me saying it as factual.
Factory image flash: always works, but you have to await the release after the updates.
mad_rulzzz said:
I have a nexus 6. I have been using custom ROMs from the days of xperia mini pro. Never had a Nexus before. I want to have root in my nexus 6 for ad blocking cereberus and more. But this time I don't want custom ROMs. I just need the OTA's. I know OTA's dont happen automatically after root. So please tell me should I root and put a custom recovery, Or just root for manually updating the OTA's. Where can I get all the OTA's ?? I know it's a lot of questions.. Please.
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FWIW: I would recommend that you:
1) Unlock bootloader
2) Decide if you want uncrypted kernel, or not (since it wipes data, just like unlocking bootloader).
3) Fastboot flash TWRP recovery.
4) Download SuperSU .zip and flash it in recovery.
5) Now, when a new OTA comes out, they usually show up here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-stock-ota-urls-t2906493
6) You can download your current factory image here > https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
7) Unzip your current factory image. Fastboot flash the system.img and that will unroot and restore the stock recovery.
8) Fastboot flash the stock boot.img if you have a custom kernel (or an unencrypted stock kernel).
9) Relax and wait for the OTA.
RW-1 said:
Quick answer: Isn't going to happen.
Reason: Lollipop wont install OTA if you modify /system, because it is now written as a block, unlike previous versions of android.
IF you root, you have modified /system.
Consequence: you will not update by OTA while rooted. It will fail.
Possible workaround: You can however AFAIK, unroot and then take an OTA, but I'll let others confirm this, please don't take me saying it as factual.
Factory image flash: always works, but you have to await the release after the updates.
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I knew about the OTA failing due to the system partition getting changed while rooting. I think what I was looking for what cam30era just explained!!!
mad_rulzzz said:
I have a nexus 6. I have been using custom ROMs from the days of xperia mini pro. Never had a Nexus before. I want to have root in my nexus 6 for ad blocking cereberus and more. But this time I don't want custom ROMs. I just need the OTA's. I know OTA's dont happen automatically after root. So please tell me should I root and put a custom recovery, Or just root for manually updating the OTA's. Where can I get all the OTA's ?? I know it's a lot of questions.. Please.
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You can just update in fastboot without an OTA. Just flash the new bootloader, system and possibly the new boot.img in fastboot and reroot. Erase and flash cache.img afterwards. Thats how i do it at least.
mad_rulzzz said:
I knew about the OTA failing due to the system partition getting changed while rooting. I think what I was looking for what cam30era just explained!!!
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What he just explained is what I said, unroot and take the OTA.... He listed how as well.
RW-1 said:
What he just explained is what I said, unroot and take the OTA.... He listed how as well.
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Yup.
@rw_1 @cam30era thanks guys
I would do what gee2012 said.
From what I have seen the OTA and the images are released pretty close together.
Instead of flashing images to get back to stock and waiting for the OTA. and then re-rooting
Just download the image files from Google. Manually flash all the files EXCEPT user data if you want to keep your data.
Re-root.
You are now updated and don't have to wait for OTA.
Either way works so it depends on which you are happier with.
mad_rulzzz said:
@rw_1 @cam30era thanks guys
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Welcome. And BTW: there's a button for that.
gee2012 said:
You can just update in fastboot without an OTA. Just flash the new bootloader, system and possibly the new boot.img in fastboot and reroot. Erase and flash cache.img afterwards. Thats how i do it at least.
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Just to be sure I understood right:
If I don't care about app data or settings ( I have titanium backup),
1)I can just unlock the boot loader
2)Flash the latest factory image from [developers.google.com/android/nexus/images]
3)Root using chain fire's tool
And repeat the process when the factory image of the next version is uploaded by google.
one last thing... Does Google upload factory images after each OTA happens?
cam30era said:
Welcome. And BTW: there's a button for that.
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My BAd!!
mad_rulzzz said:
If I don't care about app data or settings ( I have titanium backup),
1)Can I just unlock the boot loader
2)Flash the latest factory image from [developers.google.com/android/nexus/images]
3)Root using chain fire's tool
And repeat the process when the factory image of the next version is uploaded by google.
Does Google upload factory images after each OTA happens? i.e; If Nexus 6 receives an OTA to 5.2, will they upload the 5.2 factory image soon?
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When you unlock the bootloader it will wipe the contents of your SD card. Make sure it is backed up on your PC.
Unfortunately, not every OTA gets published as a factory image. Most, but not all. Case in point: LMY47M.
cam30era said:
Unfortunately, not every OTA gets published as a factory image. Most, but not all. Case in point: LMY47M.
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I noticed that.... But that build is only for T-Mobile users, I guess...
Minor Differences, for example; If you take the android builds for Indian phones they are required by law to display the SAR rating. So I wouldn't worry about LMY47M, unless they have changed something to fix the memory leaks.
mad_rulzzz said:
I noticed that.... But that build is only for T-Mobile users, I guess...
Minor Differences, for example; If you take the android builds for Indian phones they are required by law to display the SAR rating. So I wouldn't worry about LMY47M, unless they have changed something to fix the memory leaks.
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Correct. M is intended for T-Mobile. My point, though, is that Google doesn't always, 100% of the time publish a factory image for every OTA.

System update but rooted

Okay so I have the bootloader unlocked, rooted, twrp and running ex kernel. I had system update turned off in disable services but then the phone wasn't going into deep sleep was always running at 300 mhz. So to fix that, I turned system update back on ... great I get deep sleep back but now they released the update for stage fright and I get a message that it is downloaded and ready to install.... I tried the install even though I knew it would fail... it goes to twrp recovery. So how do I keep the system from trying to update? I know I could in theory flash the stock recovery let it update and flash back to twrp... maybe.. but I am hoping there is another route since I plan on flashing the M factory files when they come available...
Gage_Hero said:
Okay so I have the bootloader unlocked, rooted, twrp and running ex kernel. I had system update turned off in disable services but then the phone wasn't going into deep sleep was always running at 300 mhz. So to fix that, I turned system update back on ... great I get deep sleep back but now they released the update for stage fright and I get a message that it is downloaded and ready to install.... I tried the install even though I knew it would fail... it goes to twrp recovery. So how do I keep the system from trying to update? I know I could in theory flash the stock recovery let it update and flash back to twrp... maybe.. but I am hoping there is another route since I plan on flashing the M factory files when they come available...
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or you can flash part of the factory.img, just system.img via fastboot, update and keep your data and be over it in 10-15 seconds.
simms22 said:
or you can flash part of the factory.img, just system.img via fastboot, update and keep your data and be over it in 10-15 seconds.
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Thanks simms..... so just the system.img from the version I am currently running? Do I retain root, twrp and the same kernel or the kernel goes back to stock which I am guessing...
Gage_Hero said:
Thanks simms..... so just the system.img from the version I am currently running? Do I retain root, twrp and the same kernel or the kernel goes back to stock which I am guessing...
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System.img from version you want to update to. Will lose root and anything else you added as system files. Just reflash the SU zip in TWRP to get root back.
Gage_Hero said:
Thanks simms..... so just the system.img from the version I am currently running? Do I retain root, twrp and the same kernel or the kernel goes back to stock which I am guessing...
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prdog1 said:
System.img from version you want to update to. Will lose root and anything else you added as system files. Just reflash the SU zip in TWRP to get root back.
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The easiest way to accomplish this is:
After you have fastboot flashed the system.img, take your hands off your PC keyboard and pick up your N6. Use the volume button to navigate to the "Recovery" option (in phones bootloader) and select it with the volume button. TWRP will boot. Then flash the SuperSU.zip and reboot system. Done.
Worked perfectly, system updated, regained root and no loss of data .... one happy camper.
Okay so after a couple of days the update shows back up now.... I flashed the system img as suggested, did the update, rebooted, added root back never lost data but the goofy notification for the same update showed back up yesterday night.
Which factory image did you use? If you didn't use the latest 5.1.1 (stagefright patches), you'll still get an OTA notification.
And on a side note: what version did you update from? If you didn't update from 5.1.1 to 5.1.1 (sounds silly right), you might not have the latest radio, bootloader and so on.
Gage_Hero said:
Okay so after a couple of days the update shows back up now.... I flashed the system img as suggested, did the update, rebooted, added root back never lost data but the goofy notification for the same update showed back up yesterday night.
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Didgeridoohan said:
Which factory image did you use? If you didn't use the latest 5.1.1 (stagefright patches), you'll still get an OTA notification.
And on a side note: what version did you update from? If you didn't update from 5.1.1 to 5.1.1 (sounds silly right), you might not have the latest radio, bootloader and so on.
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Yup. Need to be up to date, with the latest. Currently LMY48I for most of us. LYZ29J for TMO, and LVY48E for Fi.
cam30era said:
Yup. Need to be up to date, with the latest. Currently LMY48I for most of us. LYZ29J for TMO, and LVY48E for Fi.
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Ok so what I did was I was on LMY47Z and just fastboot flashed the same file..... I am guessing that is not the way to do it... all files are from the same version bootloader, radio etc....
Gage_Hero said:
Ok so what I did was I was on LMY47Z and just fastboot flashed the same file..... I am guessing that is not the way to do it... all files are from the same version bootloader, radio etc....
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If you fastboot flashed the system.img for LMY48I, that should have been sufficient. What carrier are you on?
cam30era said:
If you fastboot flashed the system.img for LMY48I, that should have been sufficient. What carrier are you on?
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Sorry for the confusion, I flashed the LMY47Z file over top of the LMY47Z I didn't change versions at all which I think is where I went wrong.... I am on Telus in Canada. I thought I only needed to get to an unrooted system version.
Gage_Hero said:
Sorry for the confusion, I flashed the LMY47Z file over top of the LMY47Z I didn't change versions at all which I think is where I went wrong.... I am on Telus in Canada. I thought I only needed to get to an unrooted system version.
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Aahh. Got it. Well, if you want the notifications to go away, you need to fastboot flash the latest system.img. Each time a new one comes out. For you, that would be LMY48I for now. And don't worry, you won't loose anything in the process.
Gage_Hero said:
Ok so what I did was I was on LMY47Z and just fastboot flashed the same file..... I am guessing that is not the way to do it... all files are from the same version bootloader, radio etc....
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If you flash the file from the same version you are not going to have the update so you will continue to be notified. To stop the notification you need to use the 5.1.1 (LMY48I) or 5.1.1 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28J) or 5.1.1 (For Project Fi ONLY) (LVY48E). These are the images that have the StageFright patch included. These images can be found at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
alryder said:
If you flash the file from the same version you are not going to have the update so you will continue to be notified. To stop the notification you need to use the 5.1.1 (LMY48I) or 5.1.1 (For T-Mobile ONLY) (LYZ28J) or 5.1.1 (For Project Fi ONLY) (LVY48E). These are the images that have the StageFright patch included. These images can be found at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
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I flashed the system.img and radio.img from LMY48I all appear to be good now. Thanks for your help
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Ok so what I did was I was on LMY47Z and just fastboot flashed the same file..... I am guessing that is not the way to do it... all files are from the same version bootloader, radio etc....
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Flashing system.img LMY48i will update LMY47Z . The result is the same as unrooting, back to stock and install the OTA and root again.
NLBeev said:
Flashing system.img LMY48i will update LMY47Z . The result is the same as unrooting, back to stock and install the OTA and root again.
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If fastboot flash the LMY48i there is no longer the option or need to OTA.
prdog1 said:
If fastboot flash the LMY48i there is no longer the option or need to OTA.
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Yes that is correct. My post is unclear. I did the update twice. Flashed system.img and because the OTA was only 24 Mb I flashed LMY47Z again and updated through OTA.
The results were the same. Data was kept, but not the settings. Build.prop was overwritten.
DPI 560 again, my icons replaced by google default and Black Google Now launcher replaced by the ugly white one.
It is restored now, but need some hassle.
I've seen several posts for updating with data untouched. But settings are always touched.
Flashing M preview is more worse, because even the internal storage is wiped. So copy the nandroid backup to the PC first.
Sorry for the 'encrypted' previous post.
I hope this post is more usefull.

Android System Update *root* 24.6 MB........

I was hoping someone could help me out with this......
I've been getting this irritating "Android System Update" (screenshot attached) week after week.
I'm rooted (unlocked bootloader), running stock 5.1.1
This update keeps showing up and when I go to install it, the phone reboots, then it goes it TWRP. I'm assuming this hasn't installed correctly because it keeps coming back.
Does anyone know how to get rid of this or install it correctly. It's becoming quite annoying when it pops up time after time.
Thank you-
Install the update manually or block OTAs.
nhizzat said:
Install the update manually or block OTAs.
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How do I install manually?
That's what I'm trying to find out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-ota-help-desk-t2992919
You can't take OTA if you are rooted.
jj14 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-ota-help-desk-t2992919
You can't take OTA if you are rooted.
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Thank you.
So I just need to find the security patch and manually install it?
Now where to find it, LOL
I'd start by reading the stickies at the top of the thread list... Good readng.
this update would probably be LMY48I, for the stagefright patch.
what is your current build number?
IINexusII said:
this update would probably be LMY48I, for the stagefright patch.
what is your current build number?
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LMY47Z (screenshot attached)
I have Verizon.
I thought the builds were carrier specific.
This is what I found:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#mysid
MVLJR said:
This is what I found:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#mysid
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The link you posted is for Galaxy Nexus (not N6). It is the same page, but a different location. You need https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
@IINexusII is likely correct that the update you received is LMY48I. So you should be able to flash that
MVLJR said:
So I just need to find the security patch and manually install it?
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See the end of the first post on the link that I shared above
Didgeridoohan said:
I'd start by reading the stickies at the top of the thread list... Good readng.
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IINexusII said:
this update would probably be LMY48I, for the stagefright patch.
what is your current build number?
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jj14 said:
The link you posted is for Galaxy Nexus (not N6). It is the same page, but a different location. You need https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
@IINexusII is likely correct that the update you received is LMY48I. So you should be able to flash that
See the end of the first post on the link that I shared above
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Thank you all very much for your help.
I'll try to patch one of these updates this weekend when I have some time off.
I'm the gatekeeper for all that is Android OS in my family. Myself, my Mom and now my Dad all have Nexus 6' and I've rooted us all. So I install it on my phone first and then the same with theirs.
I was so happy I found a fix for the MLB At Bat app and their stupid blackout rules.
This is just great, been having the same issue and versions
This covered everything I had at the moment!
I applied the update tonight, sick of those damn OTA prompts.
This is where I got mine from, but still not sure if I chose the right one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/fxz-nexus-6-recovery-flashable-fastboot-t3066052
Installed the download from:
LVY48F (5.1.1 Project Fi bugfix update 20150910)
It says Project Fi only, but I have no idea what that is. I didn't see an option for LVY48I, so I went with LVY48F.
Did I do this right?
Want to make sure I didn't screw up my phone.
I tried installing the OEM ROM from here, but it failed while trying to flash it via TWRP recovery:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
"5.1.1 (LMY48I)"
Anyone?
MVLJR said:
I tried installing the OEM ROM from here, but it failed while trying to flash it via TWRP recovery:
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#shamu
"5.1.1 (LMY48I)"
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Latest factory image is LMY48M
Here is guide how to flash factory image. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008
Thank you!
I flashed the Pure Nexus ROM this past weekend and so far, so good. Loving some of the features not included in stock.

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