[Q] Should I root on android 4.4.4 or on 5.1? - Moto X Q&A

Hey guys,
I have a Moto X 2013 (XT1052) and today I recived the notification for the OTA update to android 5.1 , I'm currently running stock android 4.4.4 with an unlocked bootloader. So my question is, should I root now on android 4.4.4 or install the update and root on android 5.1?

Bonwick said:
Hey guys,
I have a Moto X 2013 (XT1052) and today I recived the notification for the OTA update to android 5.1 , I'm currently running stock android 4.4.4 with an unlocked bootloader. So my question is, should I root now on android 4.4.4 or install the update and root on android 5.1?
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you will likely lose root taking the OTA update.
Since you have an unlocked bootloader, Take the 5.1 OTA, then after taking the OTA you may root by following -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738 Please be sure to use the latest TWRP fastboot IMG file (Alternate Link) and Installable ZIP of SuperSU

KidJoe said:
you will likely lose root taking the OTA update.
Since you have an unlocked bootloader, Take the 5.1 OTA, then after taking the OTA you may root by following -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738 Please be sure to use the latest TWRP fastboot IMG file (Alternate Link) and Installable ZIP of SuperSU
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Oke that's what I will do then, thanks for the help :good: Will this root method still work for 5.1?

Bonwick said:
Oke that's what I will do then, thanks for the help :good: Will this root method still work for 5.1?
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With an unlocked boot loader, yes.

KidJoe said:
With an unlocked boot loader, yes.
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I flashed TWRP-2.8.6.0-Ghost.img to my Moto X, but now I can't boot into recovery and everytime I restart my phone it needs to optimize apps and that takes ages. Do you have any idea's for how to solve this?
Edit: Never mind, I figured it out and successfully rooted my phone! Thankyou for your help.

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[Q] Inquiries about rooting Moto X Lollipop 5.0

Hi
Is it good to root 5.0? or shall I wait to 5.1?
what will happen if I rooted on Lollipop 5.0 the upgraded to 5.1 using OTA update? will it harm my device?
Is there a trusted/tested root for Moto X 2014 Lollipop 5.0?
If you are rooted you will need to do a clean install of 5.0 before accepting an OTA to 5.1 or the OTA will fail. The way I use to root is to flash a custom recovery and then flash SuperSU.
osadhan said:
Hi
Is it good to root 5.0? or shall I wait to 5.1?
what will happen if I rooted on Lollipop 5.0 the upgraded to 5.1 using OTA update? will it harm my device?
Is there a trusted/tested root for Moto X 2014 Lollipop 5.0?
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what do you mean by "good"? in what aspects? the answer will depend on how you want to use after root features.
AFAIK, you have to stock recovery installed before getting any OTA, they wont even downloaded if you have a custom recovery, so you have to use fastboot to install stock "recovery.img" before getting OTA.
I used CF-Auto root method, its safe and easy, but beware, you have to unlock bootloader first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/development/root-root-moto-x-2014-android-5-0-t2941388
I hope it helped.

[Q] Questions about root and OTA

Hello everyone, I'm new here, my nexus 6 is on stock 5.0.1 and waiting for update to 5.1, here are my concerns.
1. How can I root my phone without unlock boot loader or flash a twrp recovery( I Know if I got a twrp recovery, I can not get OTA).
2. If I need unlock boot loader in order to root, could this affect ota?
3. If I rooted my phone, can I get ota in the future?
Thanks.
Dennypalace said:
Hello everyone, I'm new here, my nexus 6 is on stock 5.0.1 and waiting for update to 5.1, here are my concerns.
1. How can I root my phone without unlock boot loader or flash a twrp recovery( I Know if I got a twrp recovery, I can not get OTA).
2. If I need unlock boot loader in order to root, could this affect ota?
3. If I rooted my phone, can I get ota in the future?
Thanks.
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1. You can't 2. No can be unlocked and still do the ota 3. YES!
nms247 said:
1. You can't 2. No can be unlocked and still do the ota 3. YES!
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Thanks. So this means if I want to root my phone, I will have to unlock boot loader. And is there anything I can do if I want to update through OTA after I rooted and unlocked my phone?
Dennypalace said:
Thanks. So this means if I want to root my phone, I will have to unlock boot loader. And is there anything I can do if I want to update through OTA after I rooted and unlocked my phone?
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As long as you flash the stock recovery before an ota you'll be fine
Actually any system modification including root on Lollipop will prevent an OTA so in answer to question 3, no.
Basically need to flash stock system.img, recovery.img and stock boot (if you changed the kernel).
At least thats what I'm about to do.
y2whisper said:
Basically need to flash stock system.img, recovery.img and stock boot (if you changed the kernel).
At least thats what I'm about to do.
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Correct. That's exactly what I did, and it worked.
rootSU said:
Actually any system modification including root on Lollipop will prevent an OTA so in answer to question 3, no.
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Weird as I took the OTA while rooted.
Still working on it on my end. Drivers aren't installed for add sideboard trying to figure it out

Firmware update...

Hi all,
Currently receiving an OTA alert about firmware 22.41.24.en.gb. Anyone know what this is? 5.1? Can't install as I am currently rooted with custom recovery and xposed framework. Is all I need to do to install change to the stock recovery?
I've got this update as well this morning. Also rooted with TWRP. I'm no expert but I would say we need to wait for someone to make an update we can flash from recovery.
What is your model?
cyberkid2002 said:
Hi all,
Currently receiving an OTA alert about firmware 22.41.24.en.gb. Anyone know what this is? 5.1? Can't install as I am currently rooted with custom recovery and xposed framework. Is all I need to do to install change to the stock recovery?
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Would you please confirm your Moto G model: XT1078 (Brazil) or XT1072 (Europe) ? Txs
No update for me in France. Model XT1072 no root, no TWRP, no Xposed. I will try to update next time and I will report if it's arrive..
I recive this update via OTA... My divice is with Android 5.0.2
Release Notes : https://motorola-global-en-uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/105155
XT1072 & Android 5.0.2
Currently running cm12.1 with newer modem & bootloader
luca020400 said:
Release Notes : https://motorola-global-en-uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/105155
XT1072 & Android 5.0.2
Currently running cm12.1 with newer modem & bootloader
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Anyone got a zip we can flash from TWRP?
baileyjr said:
Anyone got a zip we can flash from TWRP?
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Locally I have stock image + ota
I can upload ota but for apply it you have to use everything stock
I removed root via super su app menu and reflashed the stock recovery.img before accepting the upgrade.
Then once the update installed ok I put TWRP and root back on the device.
baileyjr said:
I removed root via super su app menu and reflashed the stock recovery.img before accepting the upgrade.
Then once the update installed ok I put TWRP and root back on the device.
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Now that you have ota installed, can you tell me your system version and build number? I have 22.21.28.thea_reteuall.en.EU retfr system version and LXB22.46-28 build number and I didn't receive any OTA upgrade notice. I have not done any mod (root, custom recovery...) to stock
OTA Fails
Damn, even after full unroot and flashing back the stock recovery the OTA fails... And I can't really read why.
Except for root, I installed system settings Tasker plugin and converted it into a system app as well as froze some CN bloatware apps with TB. I will now reflash twrp and reroot and first try to unfreeze and as a last step uninstall the Tasker plugin.
If anybody has some solid experience, please share and maybe save me some time.
Thanks!
UPDATE: Alright, that all didn't work. I realized that the tasker plugin does not copy anything to the system, but I had a Helper app from PinTasker there which I deleted. And I unfroze all the apps and did a full unroot, but still no luck. I don't know what to do anymore now except for going full back to stock (no gapps), but I would rather avoid that if possible.
Still, glad for any input on this matter!
Thanks
cgb.spender said:
Now that you have ota installed, can you tell me your system version and build number? I have 22.21.28.thea_reteuall.en.EU retfr system version and LXB22.46-28 build number and I didn't receive any OTA upgrade notice. I have not done any mod (root, custom recovery...) to stock
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thea_retgb-user 5.0.2 LXB22.99-24 15 release-key
luca020400 said:
thea_retgb-user 5.0.2 LXB22.99-24 15 release-key
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Ok, thank you. So Lollipop 5.1 is not yet available for our device through Motorola official update... do you know when it will be? I'm asking this because on Motorola's website (in the section motorla upgrade news) I can't find thea model
cgb.spender said:
Ok, thank you. So Lollipop 5.1 is not yet available for our device through Motorola official update... do you know when it will be? I'm asking this because on Motorola's website (in the section motorla upgrade news) I can't find thea model
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thea is named as titan ( moto g 2014 )
Anyway I don't know
luca020400 said:
Release Notes : https://motorola-global-en-uk.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/105155
XT1072 & Android 5.0.2
Currently running cm12.1 with newer modem & bootloader
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Could you tell me where to get the newer modem & bootloader please?
Thank you very much =)
valentin8709 said:
Could you tell me where to get the newer modem & bootloader please?
Thank you very much =)
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Flash stock image --> ota --> flash cm
luca020400 said:
Flash stock image --> ota --> flash cm
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Thank you very much!
Is this firmware the last one for the XT 1072 EU version? I can't find another one...
got it from : http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...tock-firmware-images-4g-3g-variants-t3065433/
https://mega.co.nz/#!TwMAUIJK!8jBsqLfyB1YiUNVKBcAsVxNW3aiH0kE_dtwVJUG_2q4
valentin8709 said:
Thank you very much!
Is this firmware the last one for the XT 1072 EU version? I can't find another one...
got it from : http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...tock-firmware-images-4g-3g-variants-t3065433/
https://mega.co.nz/#!TwMAUIJK!8jBsqLfyB1YiUNVKBcAsVxNW3aiH0kE_dtwVJUG_2q4
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My phone was retgb so I flahsed retgb [emoji14]
Is there a way to flash the modem and bootloader from the OTA file through adb?
luca020400 said:
My phone was retgb so I flahsed retgb [emoji14]
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Hi, is it possible to flash the stock retgb firmware (on locked bootloader) if the phone came with the retde firmware? Since they are exactly the same model (xt1072) and both firmwares are digitally signed by motorola.
I ask cause the retde hasn't received this ota update yet, and if I switched it to the retgb i could get the ota update right away for the newer modem and bootloader before i unlocked and got cm.
Thx

[Q] How to update from 4.4 to 5.1 properly ?

Hi everyone,
I know there is a lot of answers on this forum but it's difficult to find exactly what I ask.
My (european) Moto X 2014 (XT1092) is still in Android 4.4 rooted, with unlocked bootloader and no recovery.
I would like to update to Lollipop 5.1, be rooted and with Xposed installed. I don't want to brick my phone, and I would like some advices on how to do that, what are the steps ?
Thanks
If you haven't already update to 5.0 you could flash 4.4.4/5.0 and then OTA to 5.1
Nicolae-Daniel said:
If you haven't already update to 5.0 you could flash 4.4.4/5.0 and then OTA to 5.1
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Do I have to unroot my phone before flashing or something like that?
No,flashing will unroot your device.Backup before.
Nicolae-Daniel said:
No,flashing will unroot your device.Backup before.
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Ok thank's ! By backup you mean manually or use an app to entirely backup the system and data ?
Do I have to root the phone on 5.0 and then update to 5.1 ?
You can fastboot boot twrp and make a backup,just to be safe,it's not mandatory. Flash 5.0 and then check for update.
Nicolae-Daniel said:
You can fastboot boot twrp and make a backup,just to be safe,it's not mandatory. Flash 5.0 and then check for update.
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Ok ! But if I want to be rooted on 5.1 Do I have to root it on 5.0 and then update to 5.1 (will it keep the root ?) or root on 5.1 (if it's possible) ?
Cocal said:
Ok ! But if I want to be rooted on 5.1 Do I have to root it on 5.0 and then update to 5.1 (will it keep the root ?) or root on 5.1 (if it's possible) ?
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Root on 5.1

Rooted Moto X with 4.2.2 - how do I update to newer android version?

Sorry for such a basic question. I rooted my Moto X quite a while ago. It is still on 4.2.2, the phone asks me to update every day and I just decline it. How can I update it to a newer version without losing root or causing any issues??
Thanks in advance!
You'll have to lose the root first. But may I suggest you explore the option of unlocking your bootloader 1st before updating as you won't be able to unlock it once you do the update to latest firmware.
Sent from my Moto X
Unroot + Update
treepog said:
Sorry for such a basic question. I rooted my Moto X quite a while ago. It is still on 4.2.2, the phone asks me to update every day and I just decline it. How can I update it to a newer version without losing root or causing any issues??
Thanks in advance!
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Unroot + Update, then Root again...
Thank you both for the replies. Yes, I'd like to unlock bootloader. I don't remember exactly what I used to root since it was a while ago. I believe it was an app. Does it matter? What's the easiest way to unlock bootloader?
How do I unroot since I don't remember exactly how I rooted? Then once I unlock bootloader do I try to get the auto update from Sprint or download the update somewhere?
Thanks again!
bushako said:
You'll have to lose the root first. But may I suggest you explore the option of unlocking your bootloader 1st before updating as you won't be able to unlock it once you do the update to latest firmware.
Sent from my Moto X
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nijom said:
Unroot + Update, then Root again...
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You can unroot by the su app but you don't have to be unrooted to take ota's. Just have stock recovery and your stock ROM. If I were you, I wouldn't update the bootloader, so you can easily go back. Lots of complaints about 5.1. So go unlock the bootloader first with root, flash twrp, and then flash this ROM here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3155843
Then if you don't like stock lollipop, you can go back. Lots of people like 4.4.4. This ROM doesn't update the boot loader
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