Impossible to root brand new AT&T Galaxy S5 @ Android 5.0? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5

I bought this phone over the Note 4 because of permanent root capability.
Now I'm finding that AT&T locked the bootloader and locked down rooting.
Is it even possible or do I now own a piece of junk?
I hate touchwiz, I wanna install a real rom...

changoland said:
I bought this phone over the Note 4 because of permanent root capability.
Now I'm finding that AT&T locked the bootloader and locked down rooting.
Is it even possible or do I now own a piece of junk?
I hate touchwiz, I wanna install a real rom...
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If it's already on stock 5.0, then yes. Currently no root methods avaliable.

nutt_case said:
If it's already on stock 5.0, then yes. Currently no root methods avaliable.
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That sucks, I assumed at first that it came out of the box at 5.0, but it must have updated to 5.0 when it restored all my apps through Google during initial setup. Word to the wise: Don't sign into Google on your first boot if you ever want to root this phone! I never had the opportunity, now I've gotta sell a brand new phone, ugh

changoland said:
That sucks, I assumed at first that it came out of the box at 5.0, but it must have updated to 5.0 when it restored all my apps through Google during initial setup. Word to the wise: Don't sign into Google on your first boot if you ever want to root this phone! I never had the opportunity, now I've gotta sell a brand new phone, ugh
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Not to rub it in, but since other people may read your advice: It is not google or restoring the application that upgraded the phone to 5.0. You most likely got an OTA (over the air update) notice from AT&T which prompted you to update, then you did it, and updated your phone to lollipop.

najoor said:
Not to rub it in, but since other people may read your advice: It is not google or restoring the application that upgraded the phone to 5.0. You most likely got an OTA (over the air update) notice from AT&T which prompted you to update, then you did it, and updated your phone to lollipop.
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Not to contradict you and come off like an asshole, but that is exactly how I got the 5.0 update. It was fresh out of the box and asked me if I wanted to restore content from my previous phone. I was never prompted for an OTA update and I never in a million years would have ever accepted or agreed to that. I'm just trying to warn anybody else who might end up in the same position I ended up in.

changoland said:
Not to contradict you and come off like an asshole, but that is exactly how I got the 5.0 update. It was fresh out of the box and asked me if I wanted to restore content from my previous phone. I was never prompted for an OTA update and I never in a million years would have ever accepted or agreed to that. I'm just trying to warn anybody else who might end up in the same position I ended up in.
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I'm sorry, I am not questioning your judgment about this and as always I would like to be wrong about this because then I can I learn something new. The way I understand update mechanisms is that there are three ways things get updated in one's phone: the first is by Google and traditionally Google has only updated parts of the operating system that have to do with Google such as the Play Store or the Google framework etc. and these are considered minor patches to the OS. I have never heard or seen that Google would modify the /system partition as that would defy the entire notion of factory reset. The second is through Samsung. unless you live in certain countries where Samsung sells you a phone unlocked and unattached to a mobile operator the update you get from Samsung is limited to Samsung applications and security patches. Finally, in the United States and countries where phones are sold by cell phone operators the OS update is delegated to the phone companies such as AT&T and t-mobile. that's how you get an update for example from kit Kat to lollipop in the us. there is no documented mechanism that shows how Google can update the OS on a phone sold to you by a phone company. but if you find non anecdotal evidence to the contrary, I would be glad to stand corrected.

najoor said:
I'm sorry, I am not questioning your judgment about this and as always I would like to be wrong about this because then I can I learn something new. The way I understand update mechanisms is that there are three ways things get updated in one's phone: the first is by Google and traditionally Google has only updated parts of the operating system that have to do with Google such as the Play Store or the Google framework etc. and these are considered minor patches to the OS. I have never heard or seen that Google would modify the /system partition as that would defy the entire notion of factory reset. The second is through Samsung. unless you live in certain countries where Samsung sells you a phone unlocked and unattached to a mobile operator the update you get from Samsung is limited to Samsung applications and security patches. Finally, in the United States and countries where phones are sold by cell phone operators the OS update is delegated to the phone companies such as AT&T and t-mobile. that's how you get an update for example from kit Kat to lollipop in the us. there is no documented mechanism that shows how Google can update the OS on a phone sold to you by a phone company. but if you find non anecdotal evidence to the contrary, I would be glad to stand corrected.
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I mean, I'm not stating that it was Google who pushed this update, it is an AT&T ROM after all. The reality of my situation is that the phone was doing an initial startup and the very first thing that happened was it launched into the initial setup. Once it got to the screen that asked me for my Google login to re-install all the apps that were linked to my account, that was the last time I had any input over the matter. It had to be during this time that the 5.0 update was downloaded/installed as well because this process took about an hour while it downloaded everything. Unfortunately it gives no information about whats going on whatsoever except for showing a splash screen that you can't escape from as it continued to download everything. Once it finished, I was at 5.0. I never once saw the phone operating or a home screen on anything that wasn't 5.0. So it very well could have been that AT&T pushed the OTA update during this process. I just had zero control over what was happening and was never prompted for an OTA update. I just entered my Google credentials, it went to the splash screen, and when it finished it spit me out to the home screen at 5.0.

changoland said:
I mean, I'm not stating that it was Google who pushed this update, it is an AT&T ROM after all. The reality of my situation is that the phone was doing an initial startup and the very first thing that happened was it launched into the initial setup. Once it got to the screen that asked me for my Google login to re-install all the apps that were linked to my account, that was the last time I had any input over the matter. It had to be during this time that the 5.0 update was downloaded/installed as well because this process took about an hour while it downloaded everything. Unfortunately it gives no information about whats going on whatsoever except for showing a splash screen that you can't escape from as it continued to download everything. Once it finished, I was at 5.0. I never once saw the phone operating or a home screen on anything that wasn't 5.0. So it very well could have been that AT&T pushed the OTA update during this process. I just had zero control over what was happening and was never prompted for an OTA update. I just entered my Google credentials, it went to the splash screen, and when it finished it spit me out to the home screen at 5.0.
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My S5 looks for system updates on the initial setup each time. It probably upgraded to the new OS as your were doing your initial setup of the device.

That's correct it does look for updates on initial setup. I have made it a good practice not to connect to Internet during the initial setup. This will keep it from looking or installing any updates. Updates will not push unless your connected to Internet ( unless it's been days and you keep denying them ).

This is the procedure I follow each time I buy a new phone:
1- Take the sim card out and turn the phone on. If the phone co-operates go to step 3.
2- Put the sim card back in and turn the phone on.
3- During the initial setup decline to connect to WiFi if the phone accepts that.
4- Immediately after the set up is complete, go to Settings -> Security -> security policy updates (or something like that) and turn automatic updates off AND set your preferred networks to WiFi only.
5- go to Settings -> about device -> software update, AND IF THERE IS AN OPTION PRESENT, disable automatic updates.
6- Root the phone if possible. If not move to step 8.
7- After obtaining root, disable the update related apks. They are typically called: LocalFota.apk, FotaClient.apk, SamsungApps.apk, SPDClient.apk, SyncmlD.apk, and wssyncmlnps.apk, or variations of these names. They are all under either /system/app or /system/priv-app.
8- It is now (relatively) safe to connect to the internet.
9- The first time you log in to playstore, quickly go to its settings and disable automatic update.

najoor said:
This is the procedure I follow each time I buy a new phone:
1- Take the sim card out and turn the phone on. If the phone co-operates go to step 3.
2- Put the sim card back in and turn the phone on.
3- During the initial setup decline to connect to WiFi if the phone accepts that.
4- Immediately after the set up is complete, go to Settings -> Security -> security policy updates (or something like that) and turn automatic updates off AND set your preferred networks to WiFi only.
5- go to Settings -> about device -> software update, AND IF THERE IS AN OPTION PRESENT, disable automatic updates.
6- Root the phone if possible. If not move to step 8.
7- After obtaining root, disable the update related apks. They are typically called: LocalFota.apk, FotaClient.apk, SamsungApps.apk, SPDClient.apk, SyncmlD.apk, and wssyncmlnps.apk, or variations of these names. They are all under either /system/app or /system/priv-app.
8- It is now (relatively) safe to connect to the internet.
9- The first time you log in to playstore, quickly go to its settings and disable automatic update.
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Those are good steps, one side note that i do is i don't connect to Internet until after i sign into Google play and set the update to " do not update ". I also hardly ever connect to the Internet anyhow since my phones data is faster than my slow a$$ Internet. Ha

dirtydodge said:
Those are good steps, one side note that i do is i don't connect to Internet until after i sign into Google play and set the update to " do not update ". I also hardly ever connect to the Internet anyhow since my phones data is faster than my slow a$$ Internet. Ha
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Yeah, but somehow that never worked for me. Play store doesn't let me log in until I connect to the internet and before logging in I cannot change the settings.

najoor said:
Yeah, but somehow that never worked for me. Play store doesn't let me log in until I connect to the internet and before logging in I cannot change the settings.
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If you open the play store and log in that way it normally won't, but if you go to settings, accounts, and add your Google account that way, let the phone set about 5 min while it sets up then you should be able to log in.

changoland said:
That sucks, I assumed at first that it came out of the box at 5.0, but it must have updated to 5.0 when it restored all my apps through Google during initial setup...
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What makes you think it didn't come from at&t with 5.0 already installed? I had to have my phone replaced recently and the new one definitely had 5.0 pre-installed.

I just received one, 5.0 out of the box also.

Ok, so I'm not the only one who received a 5.0 out of the box. too bad AT&T are such pieces of s***

Yeah, I entered this thread with the intention of posting that it was to my understanding that unless you find some old stock somewhere, all new AT&T Galaxy S5s are coming with 5.0 pre-installed.
If the OP had taken an OTA while setting up his phone I'm sure he would have noticed the reboot to recovery and the little Android dude with the blue progress bar under him as his phone updated. OTA updates don't silently install.
The days of walking out of the store with a brand new S5 and rooting it right away have gone away until someone finds a new exploit that will work on the stock 5.0.

I'm looking for a used S5 to use on Straight Talk. I want to root it and use the mobile hotspot feature. Is their a particular build number or kernel I should be looking for? I want to have 5.0 also. Maybe a ROM like Sixperience
THANKS

Downgrade and root?
I had the same issue, replaced my broken S5 and the new one came with 5.0 stock.
Would it possible to downgrade, to 4.4.2 KitKat, root via Towelroot, and then upgrade again? Would be tedious, but I am sick of AT&T's bull****. It's a moral victory as much as just looking for more ease-of-use.

bigben7310 said:
I had the same issue, replaced my broken S5 and the new one came with 5.0 stock.
Would it possible to downgrade, to 4.4.2 KitKat, root via Towelroot, and then upgrade again? Would be tedious, but I am sick of AT&T's bull****. It's a moral victory as much as just looking for more ease-of-use.
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Not possible as of now
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US AT&T S5 - G900A - Firmware Update Available

Pulling down a 485MB update right now. Haven't found anything as to whether it is truly Lollipop or not... SLOOOOOW download.
reboot... and it's only 4.4.4. Why on God's green Earth would they deploy 4.4.4 when 5.0 is supposed to be ready to roll?
5 will probably be available soon. Just like what Verizon is doing
Keep an eye on this page for GSG5 AT&T updates.
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/faq/FAQ00059646/85721/SM-G900AZKAATT
Update summary
AT&T released a software update for the Samsung Galaxy S 5 (SM-G900A) on February 3, 2015. The update is available to customers to download via Firmware Over The Air (FOTA). Wi-Fi is required for the update and the file size is 487MB.
What's changing?
Android KitKat 4.4.4
Miscellaneous improvements, bug fixes, and security updates
HD Voice capability*
AT&T Service additions:
Mail - ATT Mail (att.net mail)
AT&T Live
Uber
Remote Support
*HD Voice has limited availability in select markets. Deployment is ongoing. HD Voice Requirements: To experience HD Voice, both parties on the call must be located in an AT&T HD Voice coverage area, have an AT&T HD Voice-capable device and SIM with an area code based in an HD Voice coverage area, and have HD Voice set up on their AT&T account. HD Voice-capable device selection is limited at this time.
Incompatible Services/Features: The following services/features are currently incompatible with HD Voice: prepaid service, Smart Limits, Ringback Tones, OfficeDirect, and OfficeReach (for business customers). HD Voice is available at no additional cost; standard voice rates apply and are charged according to your wireless rate plan. For additional product information and service restrictions, visit www.att.com/hdvoice.
What to expect after the update
Although there should be no impacts to settings or data, we recommend that you back up your media files to an SD card, a PC, or using a favorite application (from the Play Store), prior to upgrading the software. You can also backing up and restoring your phone using Samsung Kies.
How to update
Customers will receive an alert and be prompted to download the update, or have the option to initiate the update manually. When prompted, you can postpone the update up to 3 times, and 4 hours per occurrence. After the update has been postponed for the maximum allowable time, your device will automatically download and install the update.
To initiate the update manually, From the Home screen, touch Apps Apps Icon > Settings Settings Icon > About device Settings About Device Icon > Software update > Check for updates.
Follow the prompts.
How to verify the update
From the Home screen, touch Apps Apps Icon > Settings Settings Icon > About device Settings About Device Icon .
The following information will be displayed:
Android version: 4.4.4
Baseband version: G900AUCU2AOA1
Kernel version: 3.4.0-3116194
Build number: KTU84P.G900AUCU2AOA1
Thanks for the notes!
So.. basically unknown fixes, plus more AT&T bloatware to disable?
I guess that depends on how important you feel VoLTE and 4.4.4 updates are.
Lolipop will be coming soon enough.
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Yea... I guess they started the work for this update long time ago and decided to just finish it and release it. The AT&T's version of Lollipop is most likely still a several weeks/months away.
VoLTE + fixes in 4.4.4
VoLTE and whatever fixes that came with the 4.4.4 update are more than likely not part of the lollipop 5.0 or 5.0.1 updates.. VoLTE I'm sure is the major reason for the 4.4.4 update being pushed before lollipop.. VoLTE is obviously going to be a major selling point in the future for all carriers.. leaving it out and just jumping to lollipop would be stupid for AT&T.. once all areas receiving the 4.4.4 update have been rolled out they should start rolling out one of the versions of lollipop.. probably before the end of February so as not to be to far behind Verizon
Dont have the update
I have the s5 for at&t and I just checked and it said my software was up to date. any idea why I didnt get it?
AT&T is rolling out the update in "stages", meaning you might receive it later than the other customers. I have 2 Galaxy S5's in family, both are on the same plan and are AT&T-branded, however only one of them have received update. Don't worry and give it some time - unless you live in a region where "HD Voice" is already available this update is not "crucial".
AlexusJ said:
AT&T is rolling out the update in "stages", meaning you might receive it later than the other customers. I have 2 Galaxy S5's in family, both are on the same plan and are AT&T-branded, however only one of them have received update. Don't worry and give it some time - unless you live in a region where "HD Voice" is already available this update is not "crucial".
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I have an AT&T unlocked model of Galaxy S5. Will I still get the OTA or KIES if I am abroad? Its completely stock, non-rooted. I've changed nothing. My current version is 4.4.2.
ThuGzta said:
I have an AT&T unlocked model of Galaxy S5. Will I still get the OTA or KIES if I am abroad? Its completely stock, non-rooted. I've changed nothing. My current version is 4.4.2.
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i was wondering exactly the same thing...
If you are not using an AT&T SIM you will not get an update. I don't think you could get the update even if you were using the AT&T SIM and were on a European or Asian network. I haven't seen an update on KIES for an AT&T phone since 4.1.2 on the GS3.
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If you are not using an AT&T SIM you will not get an update. I don't think you could get the update even if you were using the AT&T SIM and were on a European or Asian network. I haven't seen an update on KIES for an AT&T phone since 4.1.2 on the GS3.
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i understand. but... there isnt any way to donwload it and flash it by my self??
I'm getting high battery usage a week after this update. Anyone else?
jtenorio83 said:
i understand. but... there isnt any way to donwload it and flash it by my self??
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There is. Just follow the method that applies to you in this thread. Or you can install safestrap to install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3021120
please help
CAG-man said:
There is. Just follow the method that applies to you in this thread. Or you can install safestrap to install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3021120
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i tried to do it with safetrap and my phone got sofftbrickeso i had to flash stock g900aucu1ance with odin...
i was wondering if someone can give me the full update to flash with odin only????
is that posible????
Lookout might be the source of your drain its higher than Facebook in usage that's happened to me before the way to solve it was to uninstall lookout and reinstall it
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Lookout is thirsty
morphfxf said:
I'm getting high battery usage a week after this update. Anyone else?
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I have Lookout as the top consumer right now at 29%. That's not good. I did that update a week ago, and it was very miserly then. I wonder if a recent LookOut update is the culprit.
ButtonBoy said:
I have Lookout as the top consumer right now at 29%. That's not good. I did that update a week ago, and it was very miserly then. I wonder if a recent LookOut update is the culprit.
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Lookout is very buggy. Over the course of owning my s5 I've already uninstalled and installed lookout 4 times (which solves the problem for a good while). FInally I decided to turn off the malware scanning and just keep location / lost phone part as that's all I really care about (as a backup to android device managers lost phone feature). I figure the android has built in limited virus protection already and I don't install except from the play store and am not rooted. I haven't had any problems with 4.4.4 but I did a clean wipe and use lookout in a limited fashion.

T-Mobile Nexus 6 Doesn't See Any Updates

FYI, I am a new Android user.
Two weeks ago I got the Nexus 6 from T-Mobile. When I first got the phone there were no updates available for the phone. And I know at that time only version 5.0.1 was out, and it won't update that. And since then I haven't received an update for the phone. When version 5.1 was release I was excited to update. The phone tells me that my phone is up to date every time I check it throughout the day. My phone is still running version 5.0.
I did see that the update(5.1) was available when I erased my phone. I had no accounts signed in to the phone and I prevented anything to update except 5.1, but it went away and never downloaded.
I have forced stopped "Google Services Framework" multiple times and deleted the information, restarted the phone, and still no update.
I have called T-Mobile tech support to get help from them and they sent me a new phone, and still no luck.
What can I do to get the update? Is it possible that the SIM card I am using is from my iPhone 6 is preventing this?
I see that everyone is downloading updates and side loading them, but all the guides are pretty vague. I am on a Macbook so I don't understand the commands, but I do know how to use the terminal. I would like to stay away from side loading because my lack of experience.
Just be patient
The update comes out in waves, some get it later then others. You'll get it eventually
First, look here:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/11/2...or-updates-on-nexus-devices-isnt-helping-you/
Also, try pulling out your Sim card and rebooting the phone. Let it sit without Sim and see if update returns.

S6 Active SM-G890A upgraded to MM (using thread on XDA), can I go to stock lolipop?

I bought a S6 Active on eBay and wanted to take it to Marshmallow. I followed the guide in this forum and it upgraded without any problems. I'm using a very unique application which is giving me problems and I'd like to know if it's related to the fact that this phone is not on MM and not lollipop.
Is there any way to downgrade the phone back to it's stock firmware? I looked in smartswitch under Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization (device initialization) and it says "SM-G890A" does not support initizlizing, plesae contact our service center". So it does not look like smart switch will bring it back to stock.
I looked on sammobile and they don't appear to have any firmware for the S6 active.
Is there a way to bring this back to stock? If not I will leave it at MM (which I like) and try to fix my application some other way, but it would be really helpful if I was able to jump back to lollipop.
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Stock was Android L. or Lollipop.
It seems your going about this in a more troublesome way.
1. Just ask the app creator about compatibility with Android M. and your device.
2. Ask around on the forum if others are having a similar issue who would be using the app.
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The App is Blackberry BES 12.4 with Android for work. I have an open ticket with Blackberry. I'm trying to determine if the marshmallow update on the S6 Active is causing a disconnect problem that does not appear to happen with other Android hardware. Since I put marshmallow on hardware that does not officially support it I'm the one that might be in the wrong, not the app. If I could go back to the official S6 Active release (lollipop) than I could determine if the marshmallow update is causing the problem.
Is there any way for me to return to the lollipop version for the S6 Active? Thanks,
Roveer
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Well, I flashed it back to 5.1.1 with Oden. I'm going to try the app to see if it works correctly then move to marshmallow (official) and see what happens. I'm wondering if the version of 6 was different than what AT&T is sending down to phones. I would guess it probably is in some ways.
The issue I was having with BES has to do with the special BB VPN breaking down after a period of inactivity. Even after turning off all the doze options. looking at the logs it seems to be a problem accessing the keystore. I noticed that when installing the BB app on 5.1.1 that when it goes through the encryption process (which is required) that it made me use a 7 digit password with one letter and one number. When I did this on 6 I was able to use a PIN (4 digit). I'm thinking that may have caused some sort of problem with the crypto but I won't know until I verify that the app is working correctly on 5.1.1 then I'll move forward.
Roveer
So, after I put the phone back on 5.1.1 lollipop and reinstalled the BB software the VPN stayed connected unlike what I was seeing with the Marshmallow release that I installed following a msg post here on xda. The next day I received an carrier update msg saying the phone will be updated to 6.0.1 and for some reason the phone automatically installed the update. When I looked at the phone this morning it was updated to Marshmallow. So far the VPN seems to be staying connected but it will take a few days for me to fully determine that it is working.
I guess this problem was related to a non-official release
Roveer
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captaingowa said:
Most likely you were on a Beta release of Marshmallow since you were able to roll back to 5.1.1
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Well, now that I am on the official carrier release of MM the problem continues...
After I flashed back to 5.1.1 the problem was not present. The VPN remained active after lock screen (overnight).
On Tuesday (monday night) the phone mysteriousely executed the 6.0.1 update that I had been receiving update messages for. I kept hitting remind me later, but it updated anyway. So tuesday I was working with MM. So I left the phone inactive for most of the day and then sent test msgs to a pop account and the the work account. No notifications received Once I hit the home button after a few seconds the pop nofications was received then the VPN notification appeared then the work notification was received. Clearly the phone is turning things off. I disabled all the apps in the doze section and repeated the test this morning. The pop account notified right away, the work account did not. a press of the home button, the vpn notification appears then the work notification. Clearly still a problem even on the official carrier release. I've sent my results to BB (support ticket) and will continue to work.
What confuses me is that none of this is new (hardware / software). I can't be the only one experiencing this problem. It might be limited to the S6 Active but that's a pretty populate device.. I have an open ticket with Blackberry so they should respond to this issue.
Roveer

Updated m9 latest OTA update and phone forgot whos it was

We have a family plan with T-mobile, and three of the four phones are the HTC One m-9. Mine is a Galaxy note 5.
My son's HTC phone received the latest OTA update three days ago. The one dated 9/27/16 with version number 3.39.531.21. It is available here: http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m9-t-mobile/news/
I have never rooted it, it being my son's phone, but I've rooted my own phones in the past.
We plugged it in and started the update and went to bed.
In the morning on the way to school, my son showed me the initial encryption screen. It would not take his password. He and I tried several times. He has allways had the same password and has never changed it - he is required to not change it without telling us or he knows he will lose his phone.
At a loss, I booted into the stock recovery and wiped the cache, and then did a system reset.
Now the Google "Verify your account" screen is impassable. It does not remember the Google account that we have always used with this phone, and so now there is no way to actually use the phone.
I also tried reinstalling the 3.39.531.21 update using the link above. The rom updated seemingly perfectly, but I still have the same security block.
I will be calling T-mobile to see if i get anywhere, but I also thought I would ask here since I doubt they will have much to offer me. This is not a stolen or transferred phone - we bought it direct from the T Mobile website brand new and the receipt for this phone is still in my email. My son's google account is the only account that has ever been on it. Is there any way to get around the google theft verification?

A few questions about the Pixel 5

So I have a few questions that searching for answers has either been vague or given me old, outdated articles and answers if any at all. Coming here to see if maybe you guys can help bring some clarity.
I still have not received the November security patch. I'm using an Unlocked Pixel 5 with an AT&T sim. This is the first time I have not been able to get an OTA update on my phone when I saw it was released. I was using the 12 beta on my device but my wife hasn't gotten one either.
Pixel tips mentions the enhanced voice typing on my phone but I do not have it available to me. I am on the Gboard beta program and I briefly got it when it was in it's trial rounds and it works great but is no longer available. Is this a 6/6P exclusive?
personally. i would backup everything on the phone(s) you want to save. then do a fully factory wipe and fresh install on the latest image from here https://developers.google.com/android/images#barbet make sure you select the correct model when flashing. the web flashing is extremely easy to use. just make sure you use chrome to do this all in. also make sure you install the usb drivers first before attempting to flash the phone. otherwise it will never see the phone connected to the computer.
one thing i have learned over the years of messing with computers and phones. it sometimes best to start off with a fresh copy of your OS than spending days or weeks trying to troubleshoot the problem only to have it show back up next update.
AT&T maybe controlling the OTA update for security patches. Google has sent out the updates to US vendors. Double check that you have OTA enabled. It maybe found in setting app - System - System update. Unless AT&T moved it somewhere else.
Check in the Settings app: System - Languages & input - On-screen keyboard. Verify that Gboard is listed as the option for Multilingual typing and that Google Voice Typing is set to Automatic. There may also by an item which has Google Voice Type [Legacy] = Automatic. I would not be concerned if does not exist. However if it is there and no equal to Automatic, then investigate further. Finally Voice typing is enable in Gboard by opening Gmail or Messages and select the "..." icon above the keyboard, then Settings - Voice typing - Use voice typing
Your thread subject says you have a Pixel 5 but you are posting in the Pixel 5a forum. Please either confirm that you have a 5a or move the thread to the 5 forums. It's hard to help you if we don't know which you have.
Since it is an Unlocked phone it is getting its OS updates directly from Google, not from AT&T. If you had a locked phone from AT&T you might well not be receiving timely OS updates. That is why one should never buy a phone from a network operator. Can you confirm that you did not buy this phone from AT&T? In this context "Unlocked" means the bootloader is unlocked or at least unlockable, not that the SIM card is unlocked to be able to work on another network.
If you do have an unlockable phone then the best thing to do right now is to backup your data and programs, then download and install the latest factory image. That will get you to a solid foundation for future OTAs. I would stay off the beta track from here forward.

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