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Can someone more knowledgeable make a list of all the bloatware we can safely remove from out phone? So far i have disabled:
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
Google Play Newsstand
Google +
Hangouts
LGSetupWizard
Play Games
LG SmartWorld
There is more but I don't know if it is safe to disable? I have the international version.
zimbara said:
Can someone more knowledgeable make a list of all the bloatware we can safely remove from out phone? So far i have disabled:
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
Google Play Newsstand
Google +
Hangouts
LGSetupWizard
Play Games
LG SmartWorld
There is more but I don't know if it is safe to disable? I have the international version.
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You can find other LG bloatware under priv-app
Based on what I know now, root access is needed to remove these apps as they're preloaded...
But I don't know whether it's changed or...
Sent from my LG-D410 using XDA Free mobile app
Jerry101923 said:
Based on what I know now, root access is needed to remove these apps as they're preloaded...
But I don't know whether it's changed or...
Sent from my LG-D410 using XDA Free mobile app
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You must ne rooted as always!
Apps i have disabled :-
RemoteCall Service
Remote support Service
E-mail
LGSetupWizard
LGSearchWidgetProvider
Google Search
Street View (Useless in India)
Drive
Gmail
Google Calender Sync
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music
Google+
Hangouts
Picasa Uploader
Play Games
Tags
TalkBack
Apps safe to Disable
Weather
Software Update
Memo widget
PC Suite UI
Print Spooler
SIM Toolkit
Calendar Storage
Box
SmartWorld
ThinkFree Viewer
Chrome
Google Contact Sync
Maps
Youtube
I actually screwed up my phone by deleting some apps (mostly Google). Every time I wanted to launch settings it would just crash. And stupid me didn't even think to make a back up of the apps. so moral of the story? Always be sure to back up the app before uninstalling.
LG l90 d410 battery drain
gdjindal said:
Apps i have disabled :-
RemoteCall Service
Remote support Service
E-mail
LGSetupWizard
LGSearchWidgetProvider
Google Search
Street View (Useless in India)
Drive
Gmail
Google Calender Sync
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music
Google+
Hangouts
Picasa Uploader
Play Games
Tags
TalkBack
Apps safe to Disable
Weather
Software Update
Memo widget
PC Suite UI
Print Spooler
SIM Toolkit
Calendar Storage
Box
SmartWorld
ThinkFree Viewer
Chrome
Google Contact Sync
Maps
Youtube
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Hey, I've been using my d410 for almost 6 months now. Battery life used to be amazing. I've rooted my phone, and removed a ton of bloatware with titanium backup. Don't have any games installed either. Over the last two weeks, the battery has started heavily draining. According to battery usage, the biggest culprit seems to be the OS (4.4.2) it eats up anywhere between 45-55% of the battery. Even in standby mode or at night, I lose about 10%!!! I used to charge the battery only when it was less than 5% quite frequently, could that have damaged my battery? Also many times my battery takes almost 6hrs to completely charge! I'd really like some help! Thanks in advance
abhishek1304 said:
Hey, I've been using my d410 for almost 6 months now. Battery life used to be amazing. I've rooted my phone, and removed a ton of bloatware with titanium backup. Don't have any games installed either. Over the last two weeks, the battery has started heavily draining. According to battery usage, the biggest culprit seems to be the OS (4.4.2) it eats up anywhere between 45-55% of the battery. Even in standby mode or at night, I lose about 10%!!! I used to charge the battery only when it was less than 5% quite frequently, could that have damaged my battery? Also many times my battery takes almost 6hrs to completely charge! I'd really like some help! Thanks in advance
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install watchdog app from play store. it will detect if any app draining battery. if it didn't detected any app, then it might be battery problem. also give a try to another charger. :good:
I'd actually used watchdog quite some time back, but it didn't seem to help me. I guess it could be a battery problem... Can't say for sure. I read up a bit, and it turns out kitkat 4.4.2 eats up a lot of battery. So I plan to Flash my rom. Hope it'll help. Btw, gsam battery monitor is pretty useful to check which apps are actually eating up chunks of the battery.
Can I ask how can uninstall Google Chrome and Hangouts from my LG L90 after the Lollipo update? I usually use Clean Master to uninstall these bloatwares (rooted, of course), and I could remove then while in KitKat, but now those apps can't be removed because they appear as blocked.
Opening the details, Hangouts says it breaks SMS functions on Google Device, but I have an LG. Google Chrome reports that when uninstalled I won't be able to use default browser, but AFAIK I've set the UC Browser as default lon time ago (however, prior the root)
There are others like Dictionary, File Manager (I prefer ES Explorer) and so on, all blocked.
Hey guys,
Is there any system apps or tasks that I can't ever freeze?
All google apps like Google Docs, Sheets, Play Movies, Play Games, Google+ etc. Then various Google keyboard inputs which you are not using like I am not using Google Korean so disabled it. HP Print service, Photos (I don't take online backup of photos so don't need it).
Avoid using Facebook app, instead use browser for FB and G+.
No need to disable Moto Service, afterall these features are what make it a MotoX and also turning any of those service doesn't make any big difference in battery life or performance.
Once you disable the above services/apps, nothing useless left.
Jack Sparrow xda said:
All google apps like Google Docs, Sheets, Play Movies, Play Games, Google+ etc. Then various Google keyboard inputs which you are not using like I am not using Google Korean so disabled it. HP Print service, Photos (I don't take online backup of photos so don't need it).
Avoid using Facebook app, instead use browser for FB and G+.
No need to disable Moto Service, afterall these features are what make it a MotoX and also turning any of those service doesn't make any big difference in battery life or performance.
Once you disable the above services/apps, nothing useless left.
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Thanks for the reply, man.
But I want to make a new question.
As we navigate on Rom Toolbox (for example), we see a lot of tasks there and somethings I neved heard of... I'd like to know which one of them I can freeze and which ones I can't ever because it would shut the system down.
Don't freeze anything unless you know what it is, and have a specific reason for freezing it.
A lot can actually be frozen depending on what 3rd party apps you use. I actually freeze/disable a ton of stuff on my phone!
If you use a 3rd party camera, you can uninstall the stock one.
Tags is another, i don't even have a clue what this is for but i've never had a drawback from disabling or uninstalling it.
Sound recorder.
I could go on and list a whole bunch, but i really don't know what you have installed for 3rd party.
Hi XDA,
Until last night, my phone was almost a brick ! It was impossible for me to use keyboard, start a game, watch a video, or even answer a call !!! What a pity ! :crying:
I looked into it to find the source of the problem.
I deleted some apps, made some space on internal memory (who knows ?), I converted some updated system apps, to put it back in system partition using Link2SD.
I did it with [email protected]#!$%G google play services and, I lost the app during the process (it happens sometimes, especially with google PS)
I restarted my phone and surprise The brick became a rocket :victory: my phone is no longer lagging as before !!! So, I tried to find why. It was google play services. It is no longer installed on the phone since Link2SD "lost" it. :laugh:
Now, I have another problem : I can no longer open google apps. I only use the store, youtube, maps, and the contact sync service. :good:
So, here is my question : Is it possible to get rid of google play services without getting rid of associated apps like youtube, or store (others are very easy to change)
xdadogs said:
Hi XDA,
Until last night, my phone was almost a brick ! It was impossible for me to use keyboard, start a game, watch a video, or even answer a call !!! What a pity ! :crying:
I looked into it to find the source of the problem.
I deleted some apps, made some space on internal memory (who knows ?), I converted some updated system apps, to put it back in system partition using Link2SD.
I did it with [email protected]#!$%G google play services and, I lost the app during the process (it happens sometimes, especially with google PS)
I restarted my phone and surprise The brick became a rocket :victory: my phone is no longer lagging as before !!! So, I tried to find why. It was google play services. It is no longer installed on the phone since Link2SD "lost" it. :laugh:
Now, I have another problem : I can no longer open google apps. I only use the store, youtube, maps, and the contact sync service. :good:
So, here is my question : Is it possible to get rid of google play services without getting rid of associated apps like youtube, or store (others are very easy to change)
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Google play services is a mandatory part of GApps, it's included in all variants of GApps.
You can use pico GApps if you want the basic stuffs. Or you can use the ROM without any GApps at all of you prefer.
And don't freeze or remove any apps if you don't know what it does.
OK.
I may put too much Smiley's in my first message...
I already know about gapps. My question is not about how much gapps I want on my phone, but how to still use it without gplay service.
This is the only apps that "need" another app to launch !! I don't need a Facebook play service to use Facebook or messenger apps ! Do you !?
So why gplay service is so important to launch apps !? It don't seems to be an all launcher.. It is not an account manager..
So waiting for a real answer, I started to look at aptoide to replace play store, because I know my question has poor chance to be answered.
I think I'm going to dive again in my YouTube & VLC RSS project to continue receiving updates from channels I follow without any YouTube app to run.
OK so if it actually works great on every others phones and I am the only one to have troubles with Google services feel free to tell me.
Don't worry about me freezing apps, I exactly know what I can freeze.
xdadogs said:
OK.
I may put too much Smiley's in my first message...
I already know about gapps. My question is not about how much gapps I want on my phone, but how to still use it without gplay service.
This is the only apps that "need" another app to launch !! I don't need a Facebook play service to use Facebook or messenger apps ! Do you !?
So why gplay service is so important to launch apps !? It don't seems to be an all launcher.. It is not an account manager..
So waiting for a real answer, I started to look at aptoide to replace play store, because I know my question has poor chance to be answered.
I think I'm going to dive again in my YouTube & VLC RSS project to continue receiving updates from channels I follow without any YouTube app to run.
OK so if it actually works great on every others phones and I am the only one to have troubles with Google services feel free to tell me.
Don't worry about me freezing apps, I exactly know what I can freeze.
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So freeze playsevices and see what work and what wont.
Verstuurd van mijn Xperia SP
xdadogs said:
OK.
I may put too much Smiley's in my first message...
I already know about gapps. My question is not about how much gapps I want on my phone, but how to still use it without gplay service.
This is the only apps that "need" another app to launch !! I don't need a Facebook play service to use Facebook or messenger apps ! Do you !?
So why gplay service is so important to launch apps !? It don't seems to be an all launcher.. It is not an account manager..
So waiting for a real answer, I started to look at aptoide to replace play store, because I know my question has poor chance to be answered.
I think I'm going to dive again in my YouTube & VLC RSS project to continue receiving updates from channels I follow without any YouTube app to run.
OK so if it actually works great on every others phones and I am the only one to have troubles with Google services feel free to tell me.
Don't worry about me freezing apps, I exactly know what I can freeze.
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There is an Xposed module but unfortunately I dont remember its name. It could allow you to use Google apps without google play services.
Phoenix854 said:
There is an Xposed module but unfortunately I dont remember its name. It could allow you to use Google apps without google play services.
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THERE IS!?
Phoenix854 said:
There is an Xposed module but unfortunately I dont remember its name. It could allow you to use Google apps without google play services.
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Hi !
Thanks for this useful answer. I was on the dev's thread yesterday. Unfortunately, it does not work with every apps. Still, its a useful module.
I'll put a link once I'm at home...
TechnoSparks said:
THERE IS!?
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YES !!
Take a look at here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-app-run-google-play-services-1-0-t3054115
But it can't run every apps.
I'm surprised about this subject. I am not a developer, but if I were, I would try to create a tweak, an app, a module, I don't know something that could help people not to use Google play services app.
May I know anyone here with a replaced battery. Did u stick with 5.1.1 or 4.4.4? Any battery drain issue after battery replacement?(4.4.4/5.1.1) Any suggestion? Thank you
HollyZ1 said:
May I know anyone here with a replaced battery. Did u stick with 5.1.1 or 4.4.4? Any battery drain issue after battery replacement?(4.4.4/5.1.1) Any suggestion? Thank you
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Battery drain has nothing to do with the version of Android you are using. A classic symptom of a dying battery is a sudden drop from let's say 50% to near 0 followed by a shutdown. When I had this symptom, I went back to kitkat and had that too. If your battery is new, the drain is related to the way you use your rom and the apps you have. Number one culprits are rogue apps such as Gapps and social apps (facebook et al). They persist in ram, prevent your phone from sleeping and do their malware/spying activities virtually 24/7. Gapps record everything that is going on with your phone and regularly transmit data to Google. Facebook does the same+ and communicates with facebook servers. Also, any other app that includes Google analytics does the same (communicates with Google and the respective developer).
Lollipop may seem to cause more drain, because these apps are integrated more into Android. It is even worse in Marshmallows. But if you get rid of Gapps/Social Apps and others, your Z1 should last for 2 days with moderate usage: in my case: 2 hours of screen, mail syncing and wifi/data 24/7. If you can't live without facebook and Google, you can still use them the way you do it on your laptop...
Just think about this: do you want this person to have your private life and sell it to everybody? https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.timeinc.net%2Ftime%2F2010%2Fpoy_2010%2Fmark_zuckerberg%2Fmark_zuckerberg_01.jpg&f=1 . In my view, there are similar faces and versions of sociopaths at Google too.
So you mean it's ok to stay lollipop ? i'll disable the Gapps and fb
HollyZ1 said:
So you mean it's ok to stay lollipop ? i'll disable the Gapps and fb
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Lollipop is OK as of September-November 2015. If you are on stock, you need to debloat it. Another problem with Gapps is that they are in System and have root rights. But generally, if you freeze Gapps and FB, your battery life will significantly improve. Every app that has Android native variant is bad (gmail, fb, hangouts and other garbage). You can use K9mail to access gmail or any other e-mail service and you can use web browser to access social sites.. Turn off location services and set them on only when you need them. Turn off system wide syncing: a good app (like K9mail) has its own syncing. Get Afwall and allow internet to apps you use like mail, browser etc. Why do you need Settings or Camera or Gallery or Keyboard or virtually any System app to have access to the internet? You don't and they all waste data and battery communicating with "home" (google)...
Thanks a lot bro
I was hesitant to buy P40 Pro (I had P30 pro) because of a lack of GMS. But I am spontaneous and had a birthday... and both one
My first observations:
+Great camera - especially zoom one!
+video is better
+Has double tap to wake up, boy how I missed this I disabled it - too many self unlocks
+Fast!
+UFS 3 is a lot faster internal storage than 2 on P30 - downloading pictures is 2x faster over WiFi
-the screen is a bit darker than P30's?
-this huge cutout on a screen for useless (for me!) 3D camera
-has pre-applied screen protector I removed it and now is fine
-The wide camera is 18mm instead of 16mm in P30 Pro
- battery last shorter time
more + and - will come as I use it from 5 h
Now about missing services - phone clone app is by far the best cloning solution I ever used - in 5 minutes I had an almost exact copy of my P30!!! Minus Google Chrome and something else, I can't remember I miss Chrome but for now, with some minor hiccups, FireFox is filling the gap! Chrome is the best I installed it
All apps I use are up and running for the moment - future updates I need to figure it out how to backup calendar? - The internal backup app is doing the job remain to be seen restore if needed
In General, I am happy with it, only time can prove me wrong
Thanks for sharing your experiences! Still doubting to buy this phone. Chromecast and lack of Strava are the only things really holding me back at the moment.
Chrome I never use anyway (Firefox preview is nice!), I suppose Brave Browder doesn't work either? Or does it?
MajestyZ said:
Thanks for sharing your experiences! Still doubting to buy this phone. Chromecast and lack of Strava are the only things really holding me back at the moment.
Chrome I never use anyway (Firefox preview is nice!), I suppose Brave Browder doesn't work either? Or does it?
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Today using apkmirror I instaled chrome and google gallery - they work thou cant make chrome sign in with my account
Aha alright. Have you tried APKPure already? This app keeps your apps up to date as well. Or AuroraStore, it's kind of similar I believe. Same goes for the Amazon AppStore, or AppGallery of course. I just hope developers will make apps for AppGallery as well, so we can enjoy Netflix in HD instead of SD, hehe.
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Aha alright. Have you tried APKPure already? This app keeps your apps up to date as well. Or AuroraStore, it's kind of similar I believe. Same goes for the Amazon AppStore, or AppGallery of course. I just hope developers will make apps for AppGallery as well, so we can enjoy Netflix in HD instead of SD, hehe.
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I tried APKPure installing google Duo but Duo can't connect for some reason (GMS? )
pesho00 said:
I was hesitant to buy P40 Pro (I had P30 pro) because of a lack of GMS. But I am spontaneous and had a birthday... and both one
My first observations:
+Great camera - especially zoom one!
+Has double tap to wake up, boy how I missed this
+Fast!
-the screen is a bit darker than P30's?
-this huge cutout on a screen for useless (for me!) 3D camera
-has preaplied screen protector
-Wide camera is 18mm instead of 16mm in P30 Pro
more + and - will come as I use it from 5 h
Now about missing services - phone clone app is by far the best cloning solution I ever used - in 5 minutes I had almost exact copy of my P30!!! Minus Google Chrome and something else, I can't remember I miss Chrome but for now, with some minor hiccups FireFox is filling the gap!
All apps I use are up and running for the moment - future updates I need to figure it out how to backup calendar?
In General I am happy with it, only time can prove me wrong
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check this guide https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...s-live-gms-t4081351/post82258015#post82258015
you may be suprised how much more alternatives you can get and sometimes even much better
MajestyZ said:
Aha alright. Have you tried APKPure already? This app keeps your apps up to date as well. Or AuroraStore, it's kind of similar I believe. Same goes for the Amazon AppStore, or AppGallery of course. I just hope developers will make apps for AppGallery as well, so we can enjoy Netflix in HD instead of SD, hehe.
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As I know from my friend, Netflix can stream HD on P40 Pro. Check again please
Huaweifans said:
As I know from my friend, Netflix can stream HD on P40 Pro. Check again please
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Where did he get the APK for Netflix? I can't find one on APK pure that works.
hpsauce37 said:
Where did he get the APK for Netflix? I can't find one on APK pure that works.
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Latest Apk on Apkmirror
Huaweifans said:
Latest Apk on Apkmirror
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Says not compatible with my device. I assume you need play services installed?
hpsauce37 said:
Says not compatible with my device. I assume you need play services installed?
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Show me the DRM Info on your P40 Pro please
Huaweifans said:
Show me the DRM Info on your P40 Pro please
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Of about 120 apps there's only 1 that i really need which I can't get to run (parklio, they rely on google for the login it seems).
I can easily replace the weather apps that won't work without google, a couple of apps like Banking keep complaining about missing google play services but still work.
Somehow it feels really good to be able to get rid of google in one way or another.
After some time of usage - updating apps seems to be an issue - I played Clash of clans for some years (nursing children accounts too ) and when moved to P40 everything seems to be ok BUT new version seems to be a problem - found the game in Amazon store - when tried to install it sais uninstall first - I'll lose all accounts after new version arrived tried again this time Amazon Instaled the game as e second version without accounts ....
I have all my apps and games without GMS. Just Sparkasse Bank in Germany haven't but in the future I believe that it will be solved.
And I'm happy without GMS. And my Handy is also happy without Googles devil in my phone.
Is there a chance to run the store and other applications without pop-up notifications? I have tried several articles but none of them remove notifications about the lack of certificates. After 30 minutes of attempts, google frimework id returns, I delete the old gsm application and install v2 but notifications like that are still there. Anyone have any idea or know the solution?
The P40 Pro has been a blessing in disguise. Challenging at first, it has been a great exercise to eliminate my reliance on Google services. The only Google app that I have installed (other than Android lol) is YouTube Vanced. I just wanted the player instead of the website, and I'm not even logging into it.
I'm also using Waze which apparently is owned by Google, but it does not rely on GMS at all. I do miss Google Maps a little, especially my custom maps and pins everywhere. Time will tell if I really need to come up with a workaround, but I'd rather not pollute my phone
Using mainly APKPure and APKMirror, I got all my apps back. Some apps throw Play Services error when trying to access some features, but overall they've retained all the functionality that I care about. I was never much of a "digitally connected/synced" person to begin with. I don't like logging into apps left and right or having them store my activity online, so maybe this switch is easier for me than others. I also never really used GMail for anything but Android related stuff, and I stopped using Microsoft/Outlook accounts in favor of Protonmail, once again trying to reduce my reliance on the tech giants.
Can we live without Google if they do not want us?
We can use the best phone without Google
My advise:
install Microsoft New Edge browser to notebook and sign in with your microsoft account. Do the same on P40 Pro. For Install, I use AppGallery, when app is not there I use APKPure. Some apps did not work if I used some other Store.
Install:
OneDrive - not only one of the best cloud drive, with this app you can upload photos to notebook and then forward to google photos from notebook.
Outlook - it can superb handle gmail AND google calendar. I have shared google calendars with my wife and kids. Outlook can do this. I do not know any other app that can do that.
Here we go - Excellent navigation. I have allways used Google Maps. It is the best. Period. But, as I daily drive 300+km, Maps often do not find the address. I then used app Here, wich did the job. We still can use Google Maps App, you only can not sign in to the app. In that case i have browser bookmark at home screen. So, with maps we are good covered. (there are more apps that are great, but this is enough)
Problem is with our Bank Apps.
I have accounts at 2 Banks, I am forced to have two, not big deal. My point here: One Bank work great over my browser. Confirmation number I get to SMS. It is not ideal, but it works.
Another bank use app that produce onetime code. There is not workaround with the browser.
I have solved that another way: my another Huawei (P smart Z). This phone can use GMS. I installed AirDroid to PsmartZ and all APPS that do not work on P40 Pro. Then, I installed AirMirror to P40 Pro. When needed, I can connect to P smart Z from anywhere, use that app and then close the connection.
Apps that do not work:
-Google apps where you have to sign in
-Microsoft Authenticator, Google Authenticator
-SmartRemote Bosch (unbelivable)
-Lidl, Lidl Plus (unbelivable)
-ChargeMap, ABRP
-DEŽ - simple but great rain radar picture here in Slovenia
What we need fast is ability to pay wih phone. Huawei must do more here.
But my bank have send me email, they are working on their banking app to work with new Huawei Phones, YESSSS!!
I will write more, I have run out of tint
I still do not understand, why google do not sell GMS online?
Google can not work with Huawei, but can sell software to me, or not?
Outook is really great app. It can sync google contacts!!!!!!
Good to know, If anybody need this.... I DO!!!!!
I posted some of this elsewhere but this feels like a good thread to put useful non GPS info into. I got my P40 Pro yesterday and am hoping to avoid GPS as it seems to be quite a complicated process that does not always stick and needs repeating regularly. Also the opportunity to de-google is actually quite tempting. Here is what I have found so far:
- My Lastpass, PayPal and banking apps work totally fine as before. What is interesting though is I saw some info that said that these work ok if you transfer using Phone Clone but may stop working if you then update them using other sources. I have another droid so will likely manage updates for these by Phone Clone
- Outlook seems to work ok for notifications but I am not sure they come through as regular as they should. I think it would be good to start a list of apps that do not rely on GPS to push notifications. Sadly Newton mail does
- Google photos is the hardest to replace seamlessly, Amazon photos should be a good alternative (if you have prime) but just seems to crash constantly. I have OneDrive but am still considering if I want to carry on using Google photos as my main photo repo, such a shame that DropBox stopped carousel as that was great!
- Chrome actually seems to work, you just cannot login.
If there are any fellow non-GPS people out there shared experiences appreciated!