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Hey Dudes/Dev's
What i want:
I want to Create a Mod which us allow to use the Front Speaker+Side Speaker for Stereo Music
See Attached Pic...
I have tested the Loudness of the Front Speaker and i think the Volume Level is nearly the same to the Side Speaker!(?)
I want to let the Music play over the 2 Speakers like:
Front (Call-)Speaker=Left Audio Channel + Side (Loud-)Speaker=Right Channel=Stereo!?
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Steps:
-1. Find files which include the Speaker config. Maybe lib-so files?
-2. Find the right way to edit. Maybe i can compare the files between Tablet Z and Xperia Z to find the diffrence?
-#. Edit files to -> Playing Music-> 2 Speaker's active (2 Channels Left-Right),Call Option1-> 1 Speaker active,Call Option2-> 2 Speaker active
-3. Find a Way to make both Speaker's to the same Loudness Level
maybe more...
I really don't know what's needed for this so Please Help!
BR
Good idea
Another excellent idea, though sound when watching movies is allready pretty good, true stereo imaging would be a massive plus.
Good luck with this
Sent from my XZ C6603 - 4.2.2 HK. (UK Generic)
Thanks Guys!:fingers-crossed: only a thing of time
To bad that here is still no Dev. Section for things like that. This Thread will go fast to the last pages,and no one will see
BR:angel:
Sounds like a good idea but then again, earpiece is not nearly as powerful as the main speaker and can result in funny stereo audio lol FYI, the stereo speaker positions are a bit weird
In order to achieve in what you want, we need to route all audio playback to play on two channels which is the earpiece and speaker at the same time. We can either do this on a specific configuration file or kernel modifications. I am not sure how to do this as I haven't tried before but it's a start
It's too bad that Sony did not make two speakers positioned like the HTC one... Would of been epic...
Swiped from my Xperia Z (C6603)
you have amazing brain
good idea
ZeroInfinity said:
Sounds like a good idea but then again, earpiece is not nearly as powerful as the main speaker and can result in funny stereo audio lol FYI, the stereo speaker positions are a bit weird
In order to achieve in what you want, we need to route all audio playback to play on two channels which is the earpiece and speaker at the same time. We can either do this on a specific configuration file or kernel modifications. I am not sure how to do this as I haven't tried before but it's a start
It's too bad that Sony did not make two speakers positioned like the HTC one... Would of been epic...
Swiped from my Xperia Z (C6603)
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wow didnt see you Replied to this thread nice to hear from you...
It's really bad with the Speaker Position... sometimes my right hand mute the Speaker
but back to the idea... it's like you say,the Earpiece is not really Powerful (It's a really Clear Speaker,but no Bass) so you think it's not loud enough for stereo? Maybe we can use it to Support the other speaker (more Virtual Sound or such,i think you know whats good )
The Point is still to find out how we can use the second speaker :crying:
the only idea i have is to find the related files and watch the same files on a Stereo Speaker Tablet to see what we need to change...
when it works we have really found a General Mod for a lot of Devices with low Volume Speaker Devices.
B.R.
Miustone
Miustone said:
wow didnt see you Replied to this thread nice to hear from you...
It's really bad with the Speaker Position... sometimes my right hand mute the Speaker
but back to the idea... it's like you say,the Earpiece is not really Powerful (It's a really Clear Speaker,but no Bass) so you think it's not loud enough for stereo? Maybe we can use it to Support the other speaker (more Virtual Sound or such,i think you know whats good )
The Point is still to find out how we can use the second speaker :crying:
the only idea i have is to find the related files and watch the same files on a Stereo Speaker Tablet to see what we need to change...
when it works we have really found a General Mod for a lot of Devices with low Volume Speaker Devices.
B.R.
Miustone
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You won't find any related files which will route your speaker and earpiece together.
We need to re-route the audio playback with earpiece and speaker activated at the same time to make both speakers to sound like stereo. If you compare with Tablet Z, you will not find anything because the configurations for that is to route audio playback to both the speaker components and if we do that then it still won't work because we don't have that 2nd speaker.
If we can re-route the speakers into stereo, then we can manually increase the earpiece to make it sound as loud as the main speaker
This is just an idea remember, I don't actually know how we will do this
Any progress on this excellent idea?
Found mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/themes-apps/mod-stereomod-xz-v1-1-t2835995
ZeroInfinity said:
You won't find any related files which will route your speaker and earpiece together.
We need to re-route the audio playback with earpiece and speaker activated at the same time to make both speakers to sound like stereo. If you compare with Tablet Z, you will not find anything because the configurations for that is to route audio playback to both the speaker components and if we do that then it still won't work because we don't have that 2nd speaker.
If we can re-route the speakers into stereo, then we can manually increase the earpiece to make it sound as loud as the main speaker
This is just an idea remember, I don't actually know how we will do this
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Was just using My Mix 2 with this Method of Speaker usage and was remembering You and this Thread... It is so Popular right now, sad we don't have the Patent on it Mate :laugh: Loved to use Your work back in the Days <3
Just in Theory. If i would Create a Modern Smartphone... You would be the Man for the Audio Stuff. Giving 100% freedom in creativity and access to OEM exclusive Sources and Knowledge. I can Image that Device would be Mindbreaking...
Hey, I realized that the top and bottom speaker of my XZ1 Compact sound differently (bottom one is quite a bit louder and sounds fuller). After contacting Sony Customer Service and showing them the issue, they agreed on repairing the phone by replacing the top speaker. However after the "repair" it was still the same, the top one doesn't sound as good as the bottom one. Could someone on STOCK please dail *#*#7378423#*#* > select Service test > and compare left and right speaker (the easiest way to do that is by listening to one speaker for only 2 sec, go back, listen to the other speaker or 2 sec and repeat...) Thanks
Just ran the test on stock USA firmware, latest version. I notice a slight difference in that the right speaker is very slightly louder sounding, but the difference isn't great. As I understand it certain compromises are made to permit the left speaker being used as an earpiece with sufficient low volume sensitivity. As far as I know, all stereo phones that I've had where one of the speakers functions as an earpiece all have this discrepancy to a greater or lesser degree. It's quite different from the tweeter/woofer arrangement that HTC uses in some of their phones in that, despite the slight discrepancy between the speakers, there is a true stereo left and right channel.
okay, thanks for clarifying. I guess I just have to get used to it...
Funny that you know it better than Sony's Service Center
i noticed it too but i think it's totally legit as left/upper one is also used as earpiece.
maybe putting the same hardware on the bottom speaker would have lead to lower sound power or it's just cheaper.. don't know
I have a problem with my speaker sound, while listening to any audio whether it be YouTube, Netflix, Music player etc... After about 6 minutes the sound quality changes it's as if the bottom. Speaker gets lower and the front speaker gets louder if you close the app and then try again it's fine until 6 minutes again. I have already received 2 replacements and all 3 phones have the same problem. Is anyone else experienceing anything like this?
I have the opposite problem, the bottom speaker is too loud and the front facing speaker is too quiet. I have unsuccessfully been trying to find an app to balance them with no luck.
If you have had your device for less than 14 days, I would take it back to the retailer for a replacement. As there is a chance that you were given a faulty unit. Otherwise take it to a Samsung Service Center and let them take a look at it.
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I have a problem with my speaker sound, while listening to any audio whether it be YouTube, Netflix, Music player etc... After about 6 minutes the sound quality changes it's as if the bottom. Speaker gets lower and the front speaker gets louder if you close the app and then try again it's fine until 6 minutes again. I have already received 2 replacements and all 3 phones have the same problem. Is anyone else experienceing anything like this?
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You're not the only one. I made a thread about this a while back but nobody here really noticed. It still happens on my latest software update (ARJ1, September security patch). On Samsung Community there's a lot more complaints:
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...ote9QuestionsandAnswers/page/1/thread-id/1440
Some people tried contacting Samsung but the staff had a hard time detecting it. I got mine overseas in Taiwan and can't readily communicate with them at the moment. I always get a "due to we don't understand your message" reply if I use my phone's feedback option. I did try to email them directly but the reply seemed somewhat generic like "try using safe mode". I haven't done this myself but other users have said it still occurs in safe mode.
The fact that replacements have it lead me to think it's a software bug - the bottoms speaker is supposed to emphasize bass a bit more than the top speaker but it almost sounds like the left and right speaker EQ gets swapped (even though the stereo channel polarity is still constant). When it happens the top speaker becomes bass-heavy and bottom speaker sounds bass-light and treble-heavy. It also seems "worse' in some apps than others. For example I barely notice it in music as only the bass seems to drop on the bottom speaker but on other occasions it sounds like the bottom speaker is sucked down in volume.
Really hoping Android Pie fixes it.
I haven't noticed this issue, but I did post a few days ago regarding sound skipping and corrupting on wired headphones.
I've tracked this down to the EQ not playing well with the UHQ Upscaler. If you have any EQ set other than Normal the sound gets distorted through headphones.
Maybe it's related? I know the UHQ Upscaler is disabled when playing through the speakers but the EQ isn't, do you use anything other than 'Normal' EQ settings?
It has only started on ARJ1 (Oct Security patch level) for me. I've fed it back to Sammy.
Oh, you can download Sound Assistant from the Galaxy Store and that lets you play with the left / right balance.
I didn't try Sound Assistant yet, but I forced the speaker output to mono in the phone's settings, and the problem still occurred. So the problem isn't related to the stereo imagery, but rather how each speaker is tuned regardless. Some have suggested it could be a defect in the amplifier but I think if this were the case the effect would be more permanent. I think it occurs more frequently in the ARJ1 update compared to the update before that. I don't recall it occurring in Samsung Music very often before but now it seems to happen after about 4-5 minutes. I temporarily exited the app (without closing) and played music from Poweramp, stopped, then played music on Samsung Music and it sounded normal again.
Blah - is it just me or has this issue become somewhat more easily replicated, but more inconsistent? I was watching some videos with narration, and it sometimes feels like it pans left and right at the same timepoints when I replay that section.
Also, Horizon Chase sounds pretty awful now. The music volume seems to dip out and the sound effects are too loud.
hi all after 1 week of trying i figure out how to fix the problem simply delete the file with name ((SoundBoosterParam.txt)). in the root/system/vendor/etc
you're done
You need root in order to delete the SoundBoosterParam.txt file, and I'm not comfortable rooting a $1k phone under warranty. I turned off Dolby Atmos and changed sound to mono...EQ is normal. While mono isn't the quality sound I want, this has stopped the issue. A user at https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/...thread-id/1440 though said it didn't fix his.
Like FYL21, I tried emailing Samsung but got the usual "this is another canned robotic answer that doesn't address the issue" response. So I just spent about an hour on the phone with them. After continually trying to explain the issue and being told everything to try that's been tried, I finally spoke to a manager who made note of the links to the issue on their forum. She is escalating this as an issue for the technicians to read the complaints and look into this. Maybe it'll be fixed by the time the Note 10 comes out.
That was me as well in that thread. The thing is the speakers are still tuned differently even if they are in a mono configuration - the bottom one is EQ'd for bass and the top for treble (I'm not sure if this changes if you rotate the phone). I got Android Pie but am still testing out if it happens. Some apps or videos still have brief panning at specific time points, but this might just be related to the equalization and it doesn't seem as long-term as it was before (where you had to restart the app or plug/unplug headphones to fix it). I can live with that but it's annoying when it abruptly dips on the bottom speaker and even worse for calling.
you guys should think of this phone as a sound bar.
in that type of configuration, its one device generating sound that appears as stereo even though there is 1 device and not 2 .( or more)
the position and tuning of the speakers within that bar is tuned so that it feels like stereo/multichannel.
so in the same way is the phone tuned that way. plus if you think of it, you hold your phone 90 %of the time upright. the speakers on that position are not left to right but top and bottom...
so again don't look at the position of the speakers on the phone to deduce which is the left or right speakers but as how the devixe as a whole is reproducing the feel of stereo without an array of speakers like on home cinemas or in your car.
think of it, the space between the speakers is so narrow that youd have to be a small mouse to be able to enjoy real left and right channel audio from the speakers in landscape...
anyways this has nothing to do with the audio fading out but more towards our expectation of multichannel audio and how the phone reproduces it.
Does the V40 have stereo speakers?
I've seen some reviews that say both yes and no. LG's website shows a sound wave graphic coming out of both the top speaker and the bottom. The leaks prior to it's release said that it does. So I'm very confused as to whether or not it has stereo speakers.
Only one speaker!
https://youtu.be/CNZbqOTaTV8
Just one speaker ... but damn is it a powerhouse!
In the graphic you speak of, I see where they can 'cheat' the idea that the sound is coming from all over - but only after having the phone, turning up the volume while holding it as the whole phone vibrates with sound. Put it on a hard surface and the sound is amplified even more. Put the speaker side up to the back of a countertop and the sound is not only loud, it comes at you from all angles.
I get needing stereo if you hold the phone up close ... but with this phone, anything further away than 3 to 4 feet and only the finest of audiophiles will be able to tell the difference from the V40 to any other phone with stereo ... after 6 feet no one will know stereo from the V40 but everyone will appreciate the volume it can pump out.
Nope but it does sound like a little sound comes through the boom box is so loud but I say no!
Both speakers work
I've tried to very carefull listen
Fill buttom firing speaker & give it to full sound then u can realized
Ok now I give u an example
Accidentally my phone dropped & met an accident
So back panel damaged
When trying to play songs I've noticed that front speaker working not button. When visit to service Center tha guy found that button speaker connection broken then install a new speaker..
That's why I know both speakers are working.
I recently got Nexus 6 and noticed that when listen music the top loudspeaker not working, just bottom.
When making and receiving calls i hear everything like it should.
I'm not familiar with this phone, is this normal or it should be playing music from both top and bottom loudspeaker?
Is the top loudspeaker and earpiece the same hardware?
There is only one loudspeaker at the top.
To me it sounds like a software issue. Have you tried a different music player?
Hmm, i use Youtube app, not tried anything else.
Did the factory reset, its the same, loud and clear from bottom loudspeaker, from top nothing.
I'm sure there is the bottom loudspeaker, here is topic about replacement.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/speaker-replacement-t3379395
On my phone, the volume from the top speaker is a bit lower than from the bottom one. But both are active in YouTube.
Which rom do you have on the phone?
What happens when you hold the phone differently while playing. If you hold it with the top to the left, the top speaker should play the left channel, but with the top to the right, the channels reverse.
Rom is stock 7.1.1, not rooted or anything.
I tried to rotate the phone while playing but nothing change, only bottom speaker working, top not at all.
That was the hardware problem.
I disassembled device, it was not so hard because it was already opened in service centre couple months ago, so the adhesive was not that strong.
Removed middle frame, the top speaker is in it.
I checked the speaker with multimeter, and it was ok.
Then I saw the small flat cable where the speaker seats on, and see It is broken somehow (tested with multimeter also).
I had the broken middle housing and managed to peel off the flat cable (very slowly with hear dryer) and replace it.
Now everything working, and the sound is playing from both speakers.
Thanks.