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Usually charge my Tilt over night. But just to check it I unplug it before going to bed.
Started at 100% when I went to bed, I got up 7 hours later and it was at 56%. That is far worse than I expected!
Is this normal? Or shouls I restore it back the the original ROM and exchange it while I still have time.
What did you have turned on? If you leave Bluetooth and WiFi on overnight it'll definitely kill your battery... you should disable them in the commanger when not in use to save battery life.
Also, if you have the mail client set to check for new mail often (every 5 minutes or so) it'll keep firing up a data connection which uses the battery.
Thats certainly not normal. check if you dont have Wifi or an 3G connection at the moment.
I did have bluetooth on. I am on a 3G network, but not connected to a data session.
I had this problem with one of the 'cooked' roms. For the 5 weeks I had my phone, I never had a problem with it draining overnight. I flashed one of the roms, and two nights in a row I woke up to a dead battery. I reflashed the ATT rom, and haven't had a problem since.
Overnight battery drain
I have a tilt, std AT&T rom, with some modifications and updates, found here. I have pop email service running every 15 minutes, and commontime Mnotes push email to my lotus notes files and email, bluetooth on at all times. My overnight battery drain, 8-9 hours will be from 100% down to 89-92%, so I would say there is something else wrong. If you have "battery status" (found in this wiki) on your today screen, it will show you battery drain. You should also have the tweak settings to turn off your 3G connection after 1 minute after completion of data transfer. If this does not do it, go back to the OEM rom and then add your updates.
It should not drain the battery like you are seeing, my reference as a guide and I push my phone pretty hard for data and email.
Good luck,
MS0529
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I have a tilt, std AT&T rom, with some modifications and updates, found here. I have pop email service running every 15 minutes, and commontime Mnotes push email to my lotus notes files and email, bluetooth on at all times. My overnight battery drain, 8-9 hours will be from 100% down to 89-92%, so I would say there is something else wrong. If you have "battery status" (found in this wiki) on your today screen, it will show you battery drain. You should also have the tweak settings to turn off your 3G connection after 1 minute after completion of data transfer. If this does not do it, go back to the OEM rom and then add your updates.
It should not drain the battery like you are seeing, my reference as a guide and I push my phone pretty hard for data and email.
Good luck,
MS0529
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Totally agree.
there is also the posibility that you have a defective battery that's not holding charge. If you check with your phone supplier and tell them nicely that's the problem they will most likely give you a replacement (as they will send the old one back in the packaging as a return).
OK, I'll flash back to my original AT&T ROM and see what that does. I have another batter (1650 from ebay, a cheap one) but don't expect to have it for another 4 or 5 days.
it's a shame because I really like this Dutty's ATT Beta 2.
Anyone have a good full featured ROM their using that I can try if I find the AT&T original give me better battery life?
My overnight drain with bluetooth On and band set on EDGE is 4%. The only times I've found it low to dead overnite is when I've left WiFi On, not sure why as it should standby when off, but at least twice it's sapped the battery dead.
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My overnight drain with bluetooth On and band set on EDGE is 4%. The only times I've found it low to dead overnite is when I've left WiFi On, not sure why as it should standby when off, but at least twice it's sapped the battery dead.
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I wonder if when you get below a certain crital % battery level that cellphone or any Tx/Rx connection drops off? I have noticed once before (and never associated it with anything) that when I was near an audio device (my PC speakers are best for this) and my battery was low that it was 'polling' the cell network like crazy as if losing connection! This may also work for WiFi (which in sleep periodically checks if the network is still in range) and BT?
Something to investigate!
Overnight, around 7hrs, from a 100% battery with BT always on Wi-Fi off, 3G always connected and it's setup to check my email every 2hrs, I only loose 1 to 2% battery life and my alarm going off for about 5mins , this is with the Orange HTC Tytn 2 using their original ROM
Wel, I flashed the latest Dutty's ATT touch ROM. My battery did improve.
From 100% to 78% over night with bluetooth on. Not great but much better.
I'll see how it goes tonight.
My overnight drain is typically 5-7%.
This is with e-mail poll every 5 minutes, so data connection is on.
Bluetooth & WiFi off.
OK, checked it again this morning and this time at was at 98%!
I couldnet figure out why the day before it was at 78% and today at 97%. everything was the same (or so I thought).
I noticed later that the Radio pluging (to toggle BT, WiFi, and phone radios on/off) was not on my today screen. It was set to, but apparently didn't load. Maybe that is somehow the issue. I'll keep it off all day and see it I don't have more juice at the end of the day than usual. I'll turn it on again for tomorrow and see my my battery drains quickly again.
I think the battery capabilities may have a lot to do with this.
Anyone here use Li-Polimer for anything else? I do, minature 3D (no pun intended!) RC helicopters, and the individual packs NEVER produce the same charge/discharge cycle..
Not one is the same from purchase.
Some packs can devolve a low current without much adverse effect, others can charge with a greater sustain. If you present a charge cycle whilst discharge is taking place, it can effect performance.
Lots to look at here guys including device settings but when you put all these aspects together, as in this thread, there is something to work on...
I could've swore that when you turn your phone on stand-by (press the power button on the side to turn the screen off) that it also disables wifi until you wake the phone up.
I was having this same issue. Turned off Bluetooth and Wi-fi at night, hit the power button on the phone and now it only drains about 3% in the 6 hours I sleep.
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I could've swore that when you turn your phone on stand-by (press the power button on the side to turn the screen off) that it also disables wifi until you wake the phone up.
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It does unless the ROM you install changes the registry keys or you do yourself.
ah, okay.. well as long as the battery life lasts longer than the tytns then i'm happy
don't forget the default design of WM !!! ( X does not closes running programs ) ... get a task manager and make sure X DOES fully exit
I had to add that in to cover all the bases
Every time I put the Nook Color in standby, it loses my wireless. Upon taking it out of standby, it doesn't reconnect automatically- i am forced to actually go into settings- wireless before it finds my wireless network.
I have installed Spare Parts and set the Wifi sleep policy to never, but it still doesn't automatically connect to my wifi network. Even if I turn off my wireless and turn it back on via the widget I have on my desktop, it won't connect. I am forced to enter into Settings- wireless every time.
Thanks in advance.
bumping once- seriously nobody else has this problem?
Yes I have this problem too but don't know how to fix it. I just turn wireless off then back on.
No issues here at all, reconnected within seconds. Rarely do I even notice it was disconnected at all.
Are still on the 1.0.0 firmware? I had this issue, but since updating to 1.0.1 (which stated it improved wifi) I haven't had this issue.
Yeah, I see this too. I saw there was a hack somewhere to make it persistent. But that would certainly drain your battery more. It didnt bother me all that much, but if you need it for Gmail/texting/Google Talk, I could see why you would want it to be persistent for notifications. Didnt bother me, since I have a phone too.
By any chance did you install the wpa_supplicant to enable use of adhoc networks? I've only had the issue since I did that. More info below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868354
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By any chance did you install the wpa_supplicant to enable use of adhoc networks? I've only had the issue since I did that. More info below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868354
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Same here mine only does it since the install, but I knew that going into it as well.
I always had that issue, before the adhoc fix and after. Learned to livevwith it. Haven't upgraded yet... still on 1.0
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Same exact thing is happening on mine. I have AutoNooter v1.01 currently and every time my device goes to sleep the wifi turns off, which hasn't been an issue until just recently.
In the past as soon as I would turn back on my device, the wifi would reconnect. Now I have to manually go to Settings> Wifi to get it to reconnect to the network.
I have tried the SpareParts fix, but it doesn't help. I have also tried on different wifi networks, but the connection issues still occur. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
I also have the same problem, running auto-nooter. The only thing is that my signal never reconnects, I have to manually reset my internet router in order to get it back. Rebooting, or turning off Wi-Fi settings within the device doesn't help.
The only thing that works is never allowing my NC to fall asleep on it's own. If I manually put it into standby mode, it works fine.
I have the 1.0.1 update, and I called BN, but they only offered to replace it. I have it tricked out just the way I want it, so I'm just going to hold on to it for now.
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I also have the same problem, running auto-nooter. The only thing is that my signal never reconnects, I have to manually reset my internet router in order to get it back. Rebooting, or turning off Wi-Fi settings within the device doesn't help.
The only thing that works is never allowing my NC to fall asleep on it's own. If I manually put it into standby mode, it works fine.
I have the 1.0.1 update, and I called BN, but they only offered to replace it. I have it tricked out just the way I want it, so I'm just going to hold on to it for now.
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I had the same issue as well on 1.0.1.
I've found that the wifi doesn't turn off for me if it is plugged in and charging. I did enable wifi to never sleep w/ spare parts, but it still turns wifi off when it goes into standby when not charging.
My wifi stays connected with the screen off, but some times when I turn the screen back on the wifi disconnects. I know this happens because I am listening to Tune in radio and it does not disconnect until I turn my screen back on.
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hxxp://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Keep_wifi_alive_by_preventing_sleep_mode
This also explains why the wifi doesn't kick out when a music player is playing. I don't have enough posts yet to post a real link :/
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hxxp://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Keep_wifi_alive_by_preventing_sleep_mode
This also explains why the wifi doesn't kick out when a music player is playing. I don't have enough posts yet to post a real link :/
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Dang, I wish I would have found that app before I made and released my own.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/softlocker-free/otis8.softlocker
Mine does it.
I have to turn off then on.
This is only after the adhoc patch. I think I'm going back to infrastructure only.
I'm using wake timer:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/waketimer/schaze.waketimer
Same idea as SoftLocker but lets you also setup a timer where after a certain amount of time the system will actually sleep. Useful for night time or other extended periods of non use where you don't want to drain the battery.
Problem is that it does not activate on boot like SoftLocker and also after the timer expires and it goes into sleep, WakeTimer does not reactivate on wake.
Edit- after testing both programs I think SoftLocker is better. Running battery tests, there was not significant battery drain having SoftLocker on all the time. A few % overnight, probably related to the accumulation of e-mail, tweets, RSS downloads etc, but really minimal. Like that Soflocker can be checked to start on startup.
+1 for SmartLocker
This has happened for me as well. My remedy was to create a Tasker task where it's set up to connect to my SSID whenever it's detected.
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I'm using wake timer:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/waketimer/schaze.waketimer
Same idea as SoftLocker but lets you also setup a timer where after a certain amount of time the system will actually sleep. Useful for night time or other extended periods of non use where you don't want to drain the battery.
Problem is that it does not activate on boot like SoftLocker and also after the timer expires and it goes into sleep, WakeTimer does not reactivate on wake.
Edit- after testing both programs I think SoftLocker is better. Running battery tests, there was not significant battery drain having SoftLocker on all the time. A few % overnight, probably related to the accumulation of e-mail, tweets, RSS downloads etc, but really minimal. Like that Soflocker can be checked to start on startup.
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Well, I'm the SoftLocker dev...so...I'm listening.
I saw the waketimer option for a timer and liked the idea...perhaps a future update?
So here's the deal. Wasn't getting great idle drain but figured I'd give it a while to see if it worked itself out. It hasn't. Took my phone off the charger and slept for less than 8 ours and loss almost 16% about 2% per hour.
I had wifi on. Blue tooth off. gps off. i have greenify stopping my voicemail and facebook app. I have about 60 something apps frozen. Android OS took up most of my battery life as you can see in pictures. Went to partial wakelocks and saw email at 30seconds but there are only like 45 secs of partial wakelocks so not that big of a deal. Noticed that better battery stats said my phone was awake for almost an hour (I was on it for 10 minutes looking at stuff which is why the screen on pic saus about 10 minutes, the screen wasn't on at all from unplug to me waking up). Noticed under kernal lock that something was keeping stuff on for almost an hour.
So why on earth was my phone on for almost an hour of the 8 hours i was asleep? Further, why does my battery drain look like it was pretty consistent over that time even though the phone was on for an hour. It makes me think that it continuously must be turning itself back on. I know that wifi is the problem for some people but I figured that I would be able to see that in partial wakelocks yet it isn't there. I can try changing wifi stuff if some sees something showing that it is wifi issues.
Otherwise, maybe i should return the phone???
So , I would say that the main issue is your mail service process. It woke up 184 times, every time it wakes its going to keep the phone awake for a little before the phone completely goes back to sleep. it is work related i assume?
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So , I would say that the main issue is your mail service process. It woke up 184 times, every time it wakes its going to keep the phone awake for a little before the phone completely goes back to sleep. it is work related i assume?
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yes that mail account is work and there is an account for my school. It is the email apk that bypasses security that plenty of other people are running. Do you think that it is an account issue or the Email.apk? So the 180 wake ups only totaled for 30 something seconds of partial wakelock. Is it not showing upas a partial wakelock and that is why the phone says that it was on for so long?
also, I read that something having to do with wifi and the qcom_rx_wakelock cause severe battery drain. Know anything about that.
So, yes, the app only worked for 33 seconds because each wakelock probably required only a few milliseconds to do what it needed to do.. but the phone does not go to sleep instantly after each wakelock. so for each of the 184 times that app woke your phone up, it was "awake" for 5-15 seconds or however long it takes the phone to decide its time to go to sleep again. Awake time for me is almost always a function of screen time, like 1.5x - 2x my screen time.
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So, yes, the app only worked for 33 seconds because each wakelock probably required only a few milliseconds to do what it needed to do.. but the phone does not go to sleep instantly after each wakelock. so for each of the 184 times that app woke your phone up, it was "awake" for 5-15 seconds or however long it takes the phone to decide its time to go to sleep again. Awake time for me is almost always a function of screen time, like 1.5x - 2x my screen time.
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so any idea on a solution besides setting up for my email to only check every half hour. It is set to push right now. Given I don't need it at night really and i can set something up to change when it is allowed to check for emails. But sometimes I am up at 2 because I get an email that requires me to do work. Also, the qcom_rx_wakelock that kept m phone on for 32 minutes or something doesn't seem to have to do with the email. But maybe when the email tries to access the internet that wakelock runs to try to get wifi...
edit: I did more research on the qcom_rx_wakelock. I still don't understand it all but it is some issue that the 4.2.2 update came with. It causes major battery drain on some wifi networks and not on some others. It has to do with the wifi connection continuously having to talk to the router and waking the phone up which is also tied to some apps that are syncing. People on nexus's have created patches that fix the issue, but I don't think I'm going to be doing anything like that. I PMd a member to try and get more information.
For now I have two routers at my house and will be switching to using the other router for my wifi connection on my phone to see if it creates the same battery draining issues while in sleep. If I get any more information I will update again. I also think this could explain a lot of the reason that some people are experiencing sub-par battery life while others are getting great battery life. Depending on what router (work, school, home, public place) you are on might make the phone constantly turn itself on and off trying to reconnect or do something with that wifi network. I know many people have had 15 to 20% battery drain overnight then turned wifi off and just stayed on 3g/4g connection and battery drain went to 4 to 5% over night. FYI
I just got the Moto X and have a few things installed. My question is, in the battery mete graph you have screen on and awake. Is the awake always supposed to be on? I'm guessing it is since it has the touchless controls always listening.
Figured why it won't go to sleep. Has anyone ever had it where the phone app gets stuck and stays awake? Only way to get rid of it for me is to reboot.
Hi guys,
I have had the phone for a while, and it is perfect. The only issue I have had (same as others), is the battery sometimes seems tempremental. However, I noticed this weekend, it really lasted as expected.
I check every morning, the phone would stay awake for hours (disabled app after app, uninstalled etc, factory reset), same problem persisted. A lot of the apps (Enterprise service for example) like to override their deactivation, which is always fun.
Anyway, I realised that I connect my bluetooth headset to listen to music, and once I disconnect it the wakelock doesn't go away (I am not rooted, but based on two weeks of observations this is 90% confident hunch). Only restarting the phone, would cause the activity to stop and normal battery drain to resume.
So, I reach out to you guys, is there a way to stop the bluetooth from somehow remaining active after I disconnect the device, or whatever wakelock affects it. I am not ready to root this phone yet, but if there is no other option...
TL;DR connect my bluetooth headset every morning, keeps the phone awake even after disconnecting, (and turning bluetooth off). can you please help?
Thanks...
Looks you're on your own with that problem. I keep BT on at all times, connecting&disconnecting flawless to the hands-free of my car as well as the BT headset in my office. No such thing like battery drain anywhere.
Raza46 said:
Hi guys,
I have had the phone for a while, and it is perfect. The only issue I have had (same as others), is the battery sometimes seems tempremental. However, I noticed this weekend, it really lasted as expected.
I check every morning, the phone would stay awake for hours (disabled app after app, uninstalled etc, factory reset), same problem persisted. A lot of the apps (Enterprise service for example) like to override their deactivation, which is always fun.
Anyway, I realised that I connect my bluetooth headset to listen to music, and once I disconnect it the wakelock doesn't go away (I am not rooted, but based on two weeks of observations this is 90% confident hunch). Only restarting the phone, would cause the activity to stop and normal battery drain to resume.
So, I reach out to you guys, is there a way to stop the bluetooth from somehow remaining active after I disconnect the device, or whatever wakelock affects it. I am not ready to root this phone yet, but if there is no other option...
TL;DR connect my bluetooth headset every morning, keeps the phone awake even after disconnecting, (and turning bluetooth off). can you please help?
Thanks...
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You are not alone!! Please take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/bt-wakelock-z3-deep-sleep-t3059084
Unfortunately lollipop did not solve it.
I still have no idea what is causing it! It does not look to be a popular issue, this is why I hope it is an app. It could also be an HW issue.
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Looks you're on your own with that problem. I keep BT on at all times, connecting&disconnecting flawless to the hands-free of my car as well as the BT headset in my office. No such thing like battery drain anywhere.
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It could be you've not noticed it!!
I just got this watch and updated it. On the first day of real-world use, it sucked up around 10% an hour. At first I thought that this was normal, but when I looked at the battery stats Bluetooth had used 80 to 90 percent, while the others only used 1%. Are there any tips or way I can help with this? I did update to the beta version (the one with Android o as the base and not n) so if that's the issue I'm fine with that, it does make it to around 4 pm and I wake up at 6-7. This is a very good watch though. I had tilt to wake, aod, Bluetooth and wifi although wifi didn't appear to use much. Cellular is disabled because I don't have a plan for it.
I also just got this watch, and was concerned about the rapid battery usage. However it is now much better. This could be for 2 reasons, or one or the other. The first is that the initial pairing causes a lot of activity over Bluetooth while the watch updates and syncs all apps and may have just settled down. The other, and from advice on this forum, was that I disabled cloud sync (not that easy to find, go into Android Wear app on phone then Settings, then Privacy and Personal Data). Since then the battery life has improved vastly. Hope that helps.
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I just got this watch and updated it. On the first day of real-world use, it sucked up around 10% an hour. At first I thought that this was normal, but when I looked at the battery stats Bluetooth had used 80 to 90 percent, while the others only used 1%. Are there any tips or way I can help with this? I did update to the beta version (the one with Android o as the base and not n) so if that's the issue I'm fine with that, it does make it to around 4 pm and I wake up at 6-7. This is a very good watch though. I had tilt to wake, aod, Bluetooth and wifi although wifi didn't appear to use much. Cellular is disabled because I don't have a plan for it.
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At least you get something other than Bluetooth. I'm on the beta as well as now I get nothing but Bluetooth listed. I had major drain and thought it might be because I tried sideloading apps via Bluetooth. Whatever it was I couldn't figure it out. Factory reset and I'm back to normal
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Yea today I woke up at the same time and before, at 3 I would be charging it from 5%. Today, it's 6 and it's at 33. I did disable cloud sync and a weather complication. I also disabled NFC. Other than that I dont remember changing anything else.
You don't happen to be using a Pixel 2 XL?
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You don't happen to be using a Pixel 2 XL?
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Having a very similar problem and I am indeed using a PIxel 2 XL, is there something you know about this?
I started a thread in the questions section for battery consumption, which still shows on the first page. The biggest consumers of the battery I've found are the Bluetooth/wifi radios and Tilt to Wake Sensor. That TtW Sensor was sucking down about 4% of the battery just on its own. The best configuration I've found is no wifi, no TtW sensor, no bluetooth, using LTE combined with AT&T NumberSync, from which I get approximately 24 hours. If you want to see other configurations that have been tried and reported, you can check out the other thread.
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I started a thread in the questions section for battery consumption, which still shows on the first page. The biggest consumers of the battery I've found are the Bluetooth/wifi radios and Tilt to Wake Sensor. That TtW Sensor was sucking down about 4% of the battery just on its own. The best configuration I've found is no wifi, no TtW sensor, no bluetooth, using LTE combined with AT&T NumberSync, from which I get approximately 24 hours. If you want to see other configurations that have been tried and reported, you can check out the other thread.
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I've had pretty decent battery life on my watch (depending on what it's doing in a day) but today the thing was dead in less than 7 hours and it shows it's all from Bluetooth. So, riddle me this....do I even need to be synced via Bluetooth when I have NumberSync? What are the advantages/disadvantages (besides battery drain) to leaving Bluetooth on and connected to my phone?
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I've had pretty decent battery life on my watch (depending on what it's doing in a day) but today the thing was dead in less than 7 hours and it shows it's all from Bluetooth. So, riddle me this....do I even need to be synced via Bluetooth when I have NumberSync? What are the advantages/disadvantages (besides battery drain) to leaving Bluetooth on and connected to my phone?
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Sounds like something wasnt letting it sleep
Do what I do. Every 2-3 days do a restart of the watch just keeps things fresh.
Mine can easily last 2 days if stretch it. Normally I'm around 50% by the time I get home after 12 hours
Thanks for the advice! I'll start that routine tomorrow and see how it works out.